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Re: Mortuary noted as place of death #unitedkingdom

Kirsten Gradel <kirsten.gradel@...>
 

In continuation of this thread I have now received the death record
for the deceased Gregoire Bernstein..

He was found dead on 4th of June 1899 in a street in the Hampstead
district, was of no known address.

In such a case it must have been the custom to note the mortuary as
place of death because that is where the body was examined. The
mortuary is actually not mentioned at all in the record.

The certificate was issued by the Coroner for London and an inquest
was held on the 8th of June.

Is it possible to find/get access to papers >from such an inquest? If
yes, where?

Kirsten Gradel,
Denmark.

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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re:Mortuary noted as place of death #unitedkingdom

Kirsten Gradel <kirsten.gradel@...>
 

In continuation of this thread I have now received the death record
for the deceased Gregoire Bernstein..

He was found dead on 4th of June 1899 in a street in the Hampstead
district, was of no known address.

In such a case it must have been the custom to note the mortuary as
place of death because that is where the body was examined. The
mortuary is actually not mentioned at all in the record.

The certificate was issued by the Coroner for London and an inquest
was held on the 8th of June.

Is it possible to find/get access to papers >from such an inquest? If
yes, where?

Kirsten Gradel,
Denmark.

MODERATOR NOTE: Part of this posting has been removed as it would contravene 'look
ups' and copyright.


home marriage #unitedkingdom

malcolm katz <malkikatz9361@...>
 

As to most marriage at home being for wealthy people i
would have to disagree as ive done one big family tree
on my cousins side.
These were all Bevis Marks and were poorer then poor
smack bang in the 'Tenterground'.
For this lot im lucky if they even bother registering
things at all such as birth and they had a total
disregard for what the law said but play by the rules
as far as registering with Bevis is concerned and im
talking a couple of dozen marriages etc.
Malki Katz
London


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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom home marriage #unitedkingdom

malcolm katz <malkikatz9361@...>
 

As to most marriage at home being for wealthy people i
would have to disagree as ive done one big family tree
on my cousins side.
These were all Bevis Marks and were poorer then poor
smack bang in the 'Tenterground'.
For this lot im lucky if they even bother registering
things at all such as birth and they had a total
disregard for what the law said but play by the rules
as far as registering with Bevis is concerned and im
talking a couple of dozen marriages etc.
Malki Katz
London


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Nesvizh #belarus

tina levine
 

1. I am trying to find a monument that I was told is
to be found in one of the NYC cemeteries. It was
erected in memory of the Nesvizh victims of the
Holocaust. Does anyone know in which NYC cemetery
said monument might be located.

2. I am also searching for other siblings/cousins of
my ggf Todres KIRZNER, son of David NATHAN, born in
Lyakhovich in 1874. He relocated to Nesvizh where
his
children were all born between 1897 and 1905. He
immigrated to NYC in 1905. To date I have found one
brother and am looking for more family.

3. How can I get in touch with the Nesvizh Study
Group, (if it still exists)?

Thanks for your assistance. Please reply privately.

Tina Pachter Levine
NYC
Searching: PACHTER-Siemiatycze, KIRZNER-Nesvizh,
ZOLONDEK/ROSENBERG-Wawolnica




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Belarus SIG #Belarus Nesvizh #belarus

tina levine
 

1. I am trying to find a monument that I was told is
to be found in one of the NYC cemeteries. It was
erected in memory of the Nesvizh victims of the
Holocaust. Does anyone know in which NYC cemetery
said monument might be located.

2. I am also searching for other siblings/cousins of
my ggf Todres KIRZNER, son of David NATHAN, born in
Lyakhovich in 1874. He relocated to Nesvizh where
his
children were all born between 1897 and 1905. He
immigrated to NYC in 1905. To date I have found one
brother and am looking for more family.

3. How can I get in touch with the Nesvizh Study
Group, (if it still exists)?

Thanks for your assistance. Please reply privately.

Tina Pachter Levine
NYC
Searching: PACHTER-Siemiatycze, KIRZNER-Nesvizh,
ZOLONDEK/ROSENBERG-Wawolnica




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Nesvizh - Belarus #general

tina levine
 

1. I am trying to find a monument that I was told is
located in one of the NYC cemeteries. It was
erected in memory of the Nesvizh victims of the
Holocaust. Does anyone know in which cemetery
it might be found?

2. I am searching for family of my ggf Todres
Kirzner, son of David Nathan, born in
Lyakhovich in 1874. He moved to Nesvizh where
his 3 children were born between 1897 and 1905. He
immigrated to NYC in 1905. To date I have found one
brother, am searching for more family.

3. How can I get in touch with the Nesvizh Study
Group, (if it still exists)?

4. Does there exist in Israel a Nesvizh
Landsmanschaft? If so, how can I contact them?

thank you for your assistance. Please respond
privately.

Tina Levine
NYC
Searching PACHTER-Siemiatycze, KIRZNER-Nesvizh,
ZOLONDEK/ROSENBERG-Wawolnica


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Nesvizh - Belarus #general

tina levine
 

1. I am trying to find a monument that I was told is
located in one of the NYC cemeteries. It was
erected in memory of the Nesvizh victims of the
Holocaust. Does anyone know in which cemetery
it might be found?

2. I am searching for family of my ggf Todres
Kirzner, son of David Nathan, born in
Lyakhovich in 1874. He moved to Nesvizh where
his 3 children were born between 1897 and 1905. He
immigrated to NYC in 1905. To date I have found one
brother, am searching for more family.

3. How can I get in touch with the Nesvizh Study
Group, (if it still exists)?

4. Does there exist in Israel a Nesvizh
Landsmanschaft? If so, how can I contact them?

thank you for your assistance. Please respond
privately.

Tina Levine
NYC
Searching PACHTER-Siemiatycze, KIRZNER-Nesvizh,
ZOLONDEK/ROSENBERG-Wawolnica


1920 Census #general

Bel <belinda_kaye@...>
 

Hi

from the UK how can I look up the inhabitants of 438 and 474 Saratoya
Ave Kings NY? Tried on a paid website to no avail.

Does anyone have any ideas or have access to the 1920 Census.

Many thanks
Belinda Kaye

MODERATOR NOTE: Help with commercial websites should be sent
privately. The U.S. Census is available on microfilm at Family
History Centers. To find a center in the U.K., go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/faq.html#FHC .


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1920 Census #general

Bel <belinda_kaye@...>
 

Hi

from the UK how can I look up the inhabitants of 438 and 474 Saratoya
Ave Kings NY? Tried on a paid website to no avail.

Does anyone have any ideas or have access to the 1920 Census.

Many thanks
Belinda Kaye

MODERATOR NOTE: Help with commercial websites should be sent
privately. The U.S. Census is available on microfilm at Family
History Centers. To find a center in the U.K., go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/faq.html#FHC .


Everything but the family: stories of Australian Jewish South Africans #southafrica

H.E. <heastern@...>
 

Here is a media release of an interesting exhibition, opening in Melbourne
[Australia] next month, that would be of interest to fellow SASIGGERS.


Exhibition
Everything but the family: stories of Australian Jewish South Africans
Jewish Museum of Australia
11 March - 1 July 2007


Everything but the Family traces a minority group
who, after fleeing the poverty and pogroms of
Eastern Europe, found themselves in a privileged
social position in South Africa simply by virtue
of their skin colour. As they engaged with the
restrictions and inequities of the society in
which they lived, and for the most part
prospered, by the middle of the 20th century the
Jews of South Africa had established an
identifiable, educated and culturally rich
presence. Apartheid, its concomitant violence,
their troubled consciences and their desire for
safety have brought them to Australia over a fifty-year period.

The complex story of the Jewish community in
South Africa and the migration of many of its
members to Australia is the subject of this exhibition.

South African Jews in Australia are an unusual
migrant group - entrepreneurial, often highly
educated, usually professional, financially
secure, culturally and linguistically at home and
active in the Jewish and wider
community. However migration is never easy even with all these advantages.

Over one hundred expat South African Jews have
been interviewed for this exhibition, giving us a
glimpse of their lives in both countries.

Leaving South Africa, a country of unforgettable
natural beauty, in almost every case was a
difficult decision - life in South Africa was
full, rich and exciting. The Jews were an
established, comfortable, homogenous community
that enjoyed a degree of luxury impossible elsewhere in the world.

Adapting to Australia has been a success story
for young South Africans like Don, who slotted
into schools, professions and businesses, taking
full advantage of cultural similarities. "It was
an easy migration," say Bob and Renate
Kamener. There was no problem for Bob
practising medicine or Renate teaching. The
language, the weather, the sport, the culture
were all the same. Also it was a time (1965)
when because of the Australian cultural cringe,
foreign was seen as superior and people saw us as exotic.

Like most migrants many South Africans experience
ambivalence. "I go back once a year" says
journalist, Jill Margo. "South Africa is still my
internal landscape. I have now spent more of my
life in Australia than South Africa but I don't
really feel like I belong to either place. I'm in
immigrant limbo. Having said that, I do love
coming home to Sydney. >from the airport I always
ask the taxi driver to take me along the harbour I love so much."


Everything but the Family will be launched
by Brian AM and Dr Gene Sherman
at the Jewish Museum of Australia on Sunday 8 March at 6pm


Anyone with particular questions relating to the
above, is welcome to contact me privately.

Herbert Epstein
<heastern@netline.com.au>


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Everything but the family: stories of Australian Jewish South Africans #southafrica

H.E. <heastern@...>
 

Here is a media release of an interesting exhibition, opening in Melbourne
[Australia] next month, that would be of interest to fellow SASIGGERS.


Exhibition
Everything but the family: stories of Australian Jewish South Africans
Jewish Museum of Australia
11 March - 1 July 2007


Everything but the Family traces a minority group
who, after fleeing the poverty and pogroms of
Eastern Europe, found themselves in a privileged
social position in South Africa simply by virtue
of their skin colour. As they engaged with the
restrictions and inequities of the society in
which they lived, and for the most part
prospered, by the middle of the 20th century the
Jews of South Africa had established an
identifiable, educated and culturally rich
presence. Apartheid, its concomitant violence,
their troubled consciences and their desire for
safety have brought them to Australia over a fifty-year period.

The complex story of the Jewish community in
South Africa and the migration of many of its
members to Australia is the subject of this exhibition.

South African Jews in Australia are an unusual
migrant group - entrepreneurial, often highly
educated, usually professional, financially
secure, culturally and linguistically at home and
active in the Jewish and wider
community. However migration is never easy even with all these advantages.

Over one hundred expat South African Jews have
been interviewed for this exhibition, giving us a
glimpse of their lives in both countries.

Leaving South Africa, a country of unforgettable
natural beauty, in almost every case was a
difficult decision - life in South Africa was
full, rich and exciting. The Jews were an
established, comfortable, homogenous community
that enjoyed a degree of luxury impossible elsewhere in the world.

Adapting to Australia has been a success story
for young South Africans like Don, who slotted
into schools, professions and businesses, taking
full advantage of cultural similarities. "It was
an easy migration," say Bob and Renate
Kamener. There was no problem for Bob
practising medicine or Renate teaching. The
language, the weather, the sport, the culture
were all the same. Also it was a time (1965)
when because of the Australian cultural cringe,
foreign was seen as superior and people saw us as exotic.

Like most migrants many South Africans experience
ambivalence. "I go back once a year" says
journalist, Jill Margo. "South Africa is still my
internal landscape. I have now spent more of my
life in Australia than South Africa but I don't
really feel like I belong to either place. I'm in
immigrant limbo. Having said that, I do love
coming home to Sydney. >from the airport I always
ask the taxi driver to take me along the harbour I love so much."


Everything but the Family will be launched
by Brian AM and Dr Gene Sherman
at the Jewish Museum of Australia on Sunday 8 March at 6pm


Anyone with particular questions relating to the
above, is welcome to contact me privately.

Herbert Epstein
<heastern@netline.com.au>


SAUERMILCH Family #general

שולמית <sulamitb@...>
 

Dear Gens,

While searching my Leisten family >from Tarnow, I came across the name
Sauermilch but could not find how thisfamily is linked to mine. So far I
have:

Rivka SAUERMILCH, born 1812, daughter of Chaskel and Sara
Haya-Lea Sauermilch, married Varuch-Cavid Teichler
Salomon Sauermilch, born 1822, son of Anschel and Chaye
Isak Sauermilch, born 1821, son of Moses and Chaye
Salomon Sauermilch. born 1843, died 1856, son of Marcus and Chaye
Joseph Sauermilch, died 1859, husband of Sara

If somebody has further information I will be glad to get it.
Thank you very much

Sulamith Beith Yannai
Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SAUERMILCH Family #general

שולמית <sulamitb@...>
 

Dear Gens,

While searching my Leisten family >from Tarnow, I came across the name
Sauermilch but could not find how thisfamily is linked to mine. So far I
have:

Rivka SAUERMILCH, born 1812, daughter of Chaskel and Sara
Haya-Lea Sauermilch, married Varuch-Cavid Teichler
Salomon Sauermilch, born 1822, son of Anschel and Chaye
Isak Sauermilch, born 1821, son of Moses and Chaye
Salomon Sauermilch. born 1843, died 1856, son of Marcus and Chaye
Joseph Sauermilch, died 1859, husband of Sara

If somebody has further information I will be glad to get it.
Thank you very much

Sulamith Beith Yannai
Jerusalem


Re: Minnesota and Wisconsin help needed #general

Mike Posnick
 

Records of naturalization proceedings held in the Minnesota district
courts are held by the clerk of district court in each county. The
addresses should be listed on the state's webiste,
<www.state.mn.us>. The Minnesota State Historical Society also has
copies on microfilm. For further information, go to its website at

http://www.mnhs.org/genealogy/family/genieguide/immigration.htm

Minnesota courts retained concurrent jurisdiction with the federal
courts into the early 1950's. A number of naturalizations also took
place in the Minnesota Supreme Court. Those records will be found at
the Minnesota State Historical Society.

Records of federal court naturalization proceedings are held at the
National Archives branches in Chicago and Kansas City, depending on
the court in which the proceeding took place and when. Minneapolis
naturalizations generally are held in Kansas City. St. Paul and
Duluth naturalizations generally are held in Chicago. The federal
district court clerk's offices in Minneapolis and St. Paul maintain
card indexes to their naturalizations and will do look-ups on a
limited basis. I have found it easier in recent years, however, to
e-mail the appropriate NARA branch. They are very responsive to inquiries.

Mike Posnick
Minneapolis, Minnesota

In her JewishGen message of Mon, 19 Feb 2007, "Jill Ullmann"
<ladychow@gmail.com> wrote:

I am trying to find out how to get naturalization records >from the
state of Minnesota. If anyone can advise, I would appreciate it.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Minnesota and Wisconsin help needed #general

Mike Posnick
 

Records of naturalization proceedings held in the Minnesota district
courts are held by the clerk of district court in each county. The
addresses should be listed on the state's webiste,
<www.state.mn.us>. The Minnesota State Historical Society also has
copies on microfilm. For further information, go to its website at

http://www.mnhs.org/genealogy/family/genieguide/immigration.htm

Minnesota courts retained concurrent jurisdiction with the federal
courts into the early 1950's. A number of naturalizations also took
place in the Minnesota Supreme Court. Those records will be found at
the Minnesota State Historical Society.

Records of federal court naturalization proceedings are held at the
National Archives branches in Chicago and Kansas City, depending on
the court in which the proceeding took place and when. Minneapolis
naturalizations generally are held in Kansas City. St. Paul and
Duluth naturalizations generally are held in Chicago. The federal
district court clerk's offices in Minneapolis and St. Paul maintain
card indexes to their naturalizations and will do look-ups on a
limited basis. I have found it easier in recent years, however, to
e-mail the appropriate NARA branch. They are very responsive to inquiries.

Mike Posnick
Minneapolis, Minnesota

In her JewishGen message of Mon, 19 Feb 2007, "Jill Ullmann"
<ladychow@gmail.com> wrote:

I am trying to find out how to get naturalization records >from the
state of Minnesota. If anyone can advise, I would appreciate it.


Seeking Joseph JACKSON; SHERR; ISAACSON #general

Chaim freedman
 

My late paternal grandmother Annie Freedman (nee Quint) was born in 1885 in
Pikeliai, Lithuania.She immigrated to London in 1896. She died in 1967 in
Melbourne, Australia. There was a family in Melbourne, Tait, with whom my
grandmother claimed a relationship.

I recently discovered that Rebecca Tait (previously Taitelbaum) was married
in Glascow in 1904. According to the record I found on-line, Rebecca's
parents were Joseph and Chai Jackman (Chai nee Isaacman). This fact
correlated with another relationship whereby my grandmother's paternal aunt
Lieba (Leah) nee Kvint(Quint) was married to Joseph Isaacs (formerly
Isaacman) a relative of Rebecca Tait.

I found in the 1901 Scotland census that Rebecca's parents were Jackson and
not Jackman, and in the death record of Joseph in 1920, his mother was
Goldie nee Sherr. This gave me the relationship with my grandmother whose
maternal grandmother Rokha Yekhovi was the daughter of Isaac Katz and Dinah
nee Sherr. I presume that Dinah and Goldie were sisters.

I discovered another relationship my grandmother talked about with Scottish
connections. In Glascow lived her grandmother's sister Beila (Bessie)
Brandson (died 1920). Her daughter Sophie was married to Jacob Bernstein of
Dunfermline and the family settled in Melbourne in 1920. Beila's death
record gives her mother's name as Dinah Sherr.

The Tait family settled in Melbourne in 1913 and my grandparents and father
in 1921.

If am seeking relatives of Joseph Jackson, and the Sherr and Isaacson
families. (I have already contacted those listed in the Family Finder).

Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
chaimjan@zahav.net.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking Joseph JACKSON; SHERR; ISAACSON #general

Chaim freedman
 

My late paternal grandmother Annie Freedman (nee Quint) was born in 1885 in
Pikeliai, Lithuania.She immigrated to London in 1896. She died in 1967 in
Melbourne, Australia. There was a family in Melbourne, Tait, with whom my
grandmother claimed a relationship.

I recently discovered that Rebecca Tait (previously Taitelbaum) was married
in Glascow in 1904. According to the record I found on-line, Rebecca's
parents were Joseph and Chai Jackman (Chai nee Isaacman). This fact
correlated with another relationship whereby my grandmother's paternal aunt
Lieba (Leah) nee Kvint(Quint) was married to Joseph Isaacs (formerly
Isaacman) a relative of Rebecca Tait.

I found in the 1901 Scotland census that Rebecca's parents were Jackson and
not Jackman, and in the death record of Joseph in 1920, his mother was
Goldie nee Sherr. This gave me the relationship with my grandmother whose
maternal grandmother Rokha Yekhovi was the daughter of Isaac Katz and Dinah
nee Sherr. I presume that Dinah and Goldie were sisters.

I discovered another relationship my grandmother talked about with Scottish
connections. In Glascow lived her grandmother's sister Beila (Bessie)
Brandson (died 1920). Her daughter Sophie was married to Jacob Bernstein of
Dunfermline and the family settled in Melbourne in 1920. Beila's death
record gives her mother's name as Dinah Sherr.

The Tait family settled in Melbourne in 1913 and my grandparents and father
in 1921.

If am seeking relatives of Joseph Jackson, and the Sherr and Isaacson
families. (I have already contacted those listed in the Family Finder).

Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
chaimjan@zahav.net.il


Kinishen??/MAZUR #general

Ron Brown <wcayf@...>
 

My friend's maternal grandparents always used this name to identify
their home in Russ/Poland.
Does it ring a bell with anyone who might be able to identify where it
is and how to spell it?
Do their names mean anything to anyone out there
Gershon MAZUR married to Ruchel?? daughter Gittel(Gertrude) they
emigrated to Chicago.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. thank you Nadine CHERNEY Brown

MODERATOR NOTE: The home in Russia was pronounced "Kinishen."


Nichtarischer Kriegerbund. #general

George J. Fogelson
 

My grandfather was in the Nichtarischer Kriegerbund in Berlin in the 1930s.
It was an organization for Jewish war veterans. has anyone heard of this
organization or have family who were members?

George Fogelson
Redondo Beach, CA

fogelson@alum.calberkeley.org