I fully agree with Sonia Kovitz and Lev Raphael, that language (as well as
other indicia) would define "Litvaks." My purpose in noting Wikipedia's
Grand Duchy map was simply to show that the area in which Litvaks lived
extended beyond the limits of the 20th Century Lithuanian states.

(There is the oft-told account that at the Versailles conference after
World War I, the Lithuanian delegates took a bargaining position that the
new Republic of Lithuania claimed "everything the Jews call Lithuania"
-- which represented the greater part of the old Grand Duchy (as the
Duchy was at some unspecified time defined)).

In response to Bill Yoffee's question, there is no date given for the
Wikipedia map,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Rzeczpospolita.png,
and it may well be that it is a composite showing, in aggregate, every
parcel ever owned by the Duchy, rather than a snapshot of the Duchy at
particular day that in retrospect would be deemed a "high-water mark."

I have found useful for getting a sense of the western limits of Muscovy / Russia Martin
Gilbert's Atlas of Russian History: >from 800 BC to the Present Day,
http://www.amazon.com/Routledge-Atlas-Russian-History-Historical/dp/0415281199/ref=sr_1_3
/103-4715466-2503831?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1173619763&sr=8-3

Phil Shapiro
Centreville, Virginia
(703) 830-2031 (home)
(571) 218-2237 (cell)

I fully agree with Sonia Kovitz and Lev Raphael, that language (as well as
other indicia) would define "Litvaks." My purpose in noting Wikipedia's
Grand Duchy map was simply to show that the area in which Litvaks lived
extended beyond the limits of the 20th Century Lithuanian states.

(There is the oft-told account that at the Versailles conference after
World War I, the Lithuanian delegates took a bargaining position that the
new Republic of Lithuania claimed "everything the Jews call Lithuania"
-- which represented the greater part of the old Grand Duchy (as the
Duchy was at some unspecified time defined)).

In response to Bill Yoffee's question, there is no date given for the
Wikipedia map,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Rzeczpospolita.png,
and it may well be that it is a composite showing, in aggregate, every
parcel ever owned by the Duchy, rather than a snapshot of the Duchy at
particular day that in retrospect would be deemed a "high-water mark."

I have found useful for getting a sense of the western limits of Muscovy / Russia Martin
Gilbert's Atlas of Russian History: >from 800 BC to the Present Day,
http://www.amazon.com/Routledge-Atlas-Russian-History-Historical/dp/0415281199/ref=sr_1_3
/103-4715466-2503831?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1173619763&sr=8-3

Phil Shapiro
Centreville, Virginia
(703) 830-2031 (home)
(571) 218-2237 (cell)

Dear Seredzius Researchers,

We are serving as coordinators for the LitvakSIG vital records project for
the town of Serdzius, in the Kaunas district. Seredzius birth records for
the years 1889 to 1895, a total of 215 records, have already been
translated and will be sent to all donors as soon as their contributions
are received. The next phase of research will involve marriage records,
which will be of great value since they often include the bride's family
name and her parents.

One interesting observation about the seven years of births already
translated,is that nearly 35 other towns are mentioned as places of
registration for the parents. It appears that these families were
registered in other towns but lived in Seredzius. We have made a list
of surnames included in these birth records, which you will find at the
end of this letter. Keep in mind that this list is only based on
1889 = 1895 births, and other surnames will no doubt be included as we
obtain more records.

According to the www.rtrfoundation.org website, here are the years for
which there are Seredzius records:

Marriages: 1844, 1854, 1856-1906 (they go to 1913 but we have to stop at
1906 due to the 100-year privacy law in Lithuania.)

Births: 1844, 1850, 1854-1895, 1897-1906 (also go to 1913 - later
records may be included with Kaunas or another town.)

Deaths: 1844, 1854-1858, 1860-1913, 1918-1940 (there is only 50-year privacy
law for deaths)

Divorce: 1854-1862, 1865-1880, 1883

The LitvakSIG now has several translators at work atthe Historical Archives
in Vilnius so that this project can continue as soon as the funding is
available. Donors who contribute a minimum of $100 will receive Excel
spreadsheets with all Seredzius vital records as soon as they are translated.
The Vital Records for Seredzius will go into the All Lithuania Database at
least a full year after they have been distributed to qualifying donors.
We will also keep you regularly informed about the progress of the Seredzius
project.

We hope that you can assist with this project by making a contribution now
and possibly continue making donations as more records are translated. If
you know any other Seredzius researchers or family members who might be
willing to provide funds, let us know that also. Once this data has been
translated, it will be available for all future generations, so there may
be people who are not devoted genealogists but who think it's a worthwhile
project.

Don't forget that this is a tax deductible contribution.

You can make your contribution online using a credit card, or fill out a
form with your credit card information and mail it in. You can also mail a
check if you prefer. To use the convenience of online contributions or,
to use the mail-in feature, please go to the following LitvakSIG website:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Litvak/HTML/donate.htm

Be sure to note "Seredzius Vital Records" on your letter. Please contact
us with any questions or if you are interested in another town's records.

Best regards,

Sonia Hoffman - soniahoff1@...
David Hoffman - dbh12345@...
LitvakSIG VRT Coordinators for Ariogala, Babtai, Cekiske, Dotnuva,
Grinkiskis, Rumsiskes, Seredzius

Surname List >from 1889 - 1895 Birth Records: ACHIK, AIZENBERG, AKROV
ALPEROVICH, ARNISKI, ARONSHTAM, ARONSKI, ATSIK, ATSYK, AZIK, BAROV, BEGAT,
BEKER, BERMAN, BERSHTEIN, BLAT, BLEKHARSKI, BROG, DAVIDOVICH, DISKAND,
DRANES,EILBERG, EVEN, EVIEN, EVIN, FELDMAN, FINBERG, FLAUM, FREIMAN,
FREISHMAN, FRIDMAN, GADVE, GANZ, GARBER, GELLER, GENPIL, GIRSHBER, GIRSHBERG,
GOLD, GOLDMAN, GOLDSHTEIN, GOLONBIK, GRINBERG, GRINBLAT, GROISMAN, GROSMAN,
GURVICH, ITSKO, ITSKOVICH, ITSYK, KAGAN, KAMBER, KAN, KANE, KAPLAN, KHANEZON,
KHARIK, KHASMAN, KISELEV, KISELIVICH, KOPELIANSKI, KOPILANSKI, KRAVETS,
KURLIANDCHIK, LAKHMAN, LANDAU, LEVITAN, LEVNER, LIBSHITETS, LIBSHITS,
LINOVSKI, LIUDGIN, MALNER, MALKIK, MALUPSKI, MARKEVICH, MAZINTER, MAZNITER,
MAZUNTER, MELNIK, MOSKOVICH, MOST, NAGER, NITKIN, NOSEL, NOTKOVICH, NOZHIK,
PALGONSKI, POLINSKI, PUNSKI, PUNSKI, PURVE, RABINOVICH, RITENBERG, ROZENBERG,
SALANSKI, SEGAL, SHALANSKI, SHER,SHLIAPKOVICH, SHLOMOVICH, SHOLOMOVICH,
SHTANBORG, SHTOK, SHULMAN, SHUR, STRASHUNER, TABACHNIK, TALENBAUM,
TEITELBAUM, TIRTSES, TODRES, TODRESHOVICH, VEITSMAN, VELER, VIDELEVSKI,
VITEN, VITENSHTEIN, ZEL, ZILBERMAN, ZIV

Dear Seredzius Researchers,

We are serving as coordinators for the LitvakSIG vital records project for
the town of Serdzius, in the Kaunas district. Seredzius birth records for
the years 1889 to 1895, a total of 215 records, have already been
translated and will be sent to all donors as soon as their contributions
are received. The next phase of research will involve marriage records,
which will be of great value since they often include the bride's family
name and her parents.

One interesting observation about the seven years of births already
translated,is that nearly 35 other towns are mentioned as places of
registration for the parents. It appears that these families were
registered in other towns but lived in Seredzius. We have made a list
of surnames included in these birth records, which you will find at the
end of this letter. Keep in mind that this list is only based on
1889 = 1895 births, and other surnames will no doubt be included as we
obtain more records.

According to the www.rtrfoundation.org website, here are the years for
which there are Seredzius records:

Marriages: 1844, 1854, 1856-1906 (they go to 1913 but we have to stop at
1906 due to the 100-year privacy law in Lithuania.)

Births: 1844, 1850, 1854-1895, 1897-1906 (also go to 1913 - later
records may be included with Kaunas or another town.)

Deaths: 1844, 1854-1858, 1860-1913, 1918-1940 (there is only 50-year privacy
law for deaths)

Divorce: 1854-1862, 1865-1880, 1883

The LitvakSIG now has several translators at work atthe Historical Archives
in Vilnius so that this project can continue as soon as the funding is
available. Donors who contribute a minimum of $100 will receive Excel
spreadsheets with all Seredzius vital records as soon as they are translated.
The Vital Records for Seredzius will go into the All Lithuania Database at
least a full year after they have been distributed to qualifying donors.
We will also keep you regularly informed about the progress of the Seredzius
project.

We hope that you can assist with this project by making a contribution now
and possibly continue making donations as more records are translated. If
you know any other Seredzius researchers or family members who might be
willing to provide funds, let us know that also. Once this data has been
translated, it will be available for all future generations, so there may
be people who are not devoted genealogists but who think it's a worthwhile
project.

Don't forget that this is a tax deductible contribution.

You can make your contribution online using a credit card, or fill out a
form with your credit card information and mail it in. You can also mail a
check if you prefer. To use the convenience of online contributions or,
to use the mail-in feature, please go to the following LitvakSIG website:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Litvak/HTML/donate.htm

Be sure to note "Seredzius Vital Records" on your letter. Please contact
us with any questions or if you are interested in another town's records.

Best regards,

Sonia Hoffman - soniahoff1@...
David Hoffman - dbh12345@...
LitvakSIG VRT Coordinators for Ariogala, Babtai, Cekiske, Dotnuva,
Grinkiskis, Rumsiskes, Seredzius

Surname List >from 1889 - 1895 Birth Records: ACHIK, AIZENBERG, AKROV
ALPEROVICH, ARNISKI, ARONSHTAM, ARONSKI, ATSIK, ATSYK, AZIK, BAROV, BEGAT,
BEKER, BERMAN, BERSHTEIN, BLAT, BLEKHARSKI, BROG, DAVIDOVICH, DISKAND,
DRANES,EILBERG, EVEN, EVIEN, EVIN, FELDMAN, FINBERG, FLAUM, FREIMAN,
FREISHMAN, FRIDMAN, GADVE, GANZ, GARBER, GELLER, GENPIL, GIRSHBER, GIRSHBERG,
GOLD, GOLDMAN, GOLDSHTEIN, GOLONBIK, GRINBERG, GRINBLAT, GROISMAN, GROSMAN,
GURVICH, ITSKO, ITSKOVICH, ITSYK, KAGAN, KAMBER, KAN, KANE, KAPLAN, KHANEZON,
KHARIK, KHASMAN, KISELEV, KISELIVICH, KOPELIANSKI, KOPILANSKI, KRAVETS,
KURLIANDCHIK, LAKHMAN, LANDAU, LEVITAN, LEVNER, LIBSHITETS, LIBSHITS,
LINOVSKI, LIUDGIN, MALNER, MALKIK, MALUPSKI, MARKEVICH, MAZINTER, MAZNITER,
MAZUNTER, MELNIK, MOSKOVICH, MOST, NAGER, NITKIN, NOSEL, NOTKOVICH, NOZHIK,
PALGONSKI, POLINSKI, PUNSKI, PUNSKI, PURVE, RABINOVICH, RITENBERG, ROZENBERG,
SALANSKI, SEGAL, SHALANSKI, SHER,SHLIAPKOVICH, SHLOMOVICH, SHOLOMOVICH,
SHTANBORG, SHTOK, SHULMAN, SHUR, STRASHUNER, TABACHNIK, TALENBAUM,
TEITELBAUM, TIRTSES, TODRES, TODRESHOVICH, VEITSMAN, VELER, VIDELEVSKI,
VITEN, VITENSHTEIN, ZEL, ZILBERMAN, ZIV

Michael:

http://www.jewishgen.org/jos/josfest.htm
will calculate all the festival dates for any year!

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA

michael abramson wrote:

Michael:

http://www.jewishgen.org/jos/josfest.htm
will calculate all the festival dates for any year!

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA

michael abramson wrote:

--- michael abramson <mba36@...> wrote:

I would like to know the date, on the Gregorian Calendar, of the lighting of the

third candle?

Try the "Hebcal Interactive Jewish Calendar" at www.hebcal.com/hebcal

Just type in the "Year", "Entire Year" and then check "Gregorian", and "All default
Holidays".

You will get a list like this.

...
Sun 23-Dec-1894 Chanukah: 2 Candles
Mon 24-Dec-1894 Chanukah: 3 Candles
Tue 25-Dec-1894 Chanukah: 4 Candles
...

If you want it to look like a modern day calendar then also click on "Display
visual calendar grid"

Yehudah ben Shlomo
U.S.A.

--- michael abramson <mba36@...> wrote:

I would like to know the date, on the Gregorian Calendar, of the lighting of the

third candle?

Try the "Hebcal Interactive Jewish Calendar" at www.hebcal.com/hebcal

Just type in the "Year", "Entire Year" and then check "Gregorian", and "All default
Holidays".

You will get a list like this.

...
Sun 23-Dec-1894 Chanukah: 2 Candles
Mon 24-Dec-1894 Chanukah: 3 Candles
Tue 25-Dec-1894 Chanukah: 4 Candles
...

If you want it to look like a modern day calendar then also click on "Display
visual calendar grid"

Yehudah ben Shlomo
U.S.A.

In November 1911 Moshe and Itte SCHNAPARSKI nee JANKIELEWSKI arrived in NY. They
listed their place of birth as Belaya Tserkov, though it might be Pavoloch for
Moshe. *Itte had a brother Baruch JANKIELEWSKI who was still living in Belaya
Tserkov as of 1909.
* Moshe listed their destination as his brother-in-law Josel WINIKUR in
Brooklyn.
* I assume that Moshe changed his surname shortly after arriving, as there
are no further records of him.
I am hoping that perhaps someone is aware of the family of Moshe and Itte and can
advise me as to what they changed their name to. Some other names and information
connected with the SCHNAPARSKI family are:
* Moshe had a brother Boruch SCHNAPARSKY>SNOPARSKY who arrived in December 1909.
He eventually moved to Philadelphia along with (the above mentioned)Josel/Joseph
WINAKUR.
* Boruch/Benjamin changed the spelling of his name to SNOPARSKY.
* Upon arriving in the US he listed his destination as his brother-in-law Joseph
(and Mollie) STEINBERG in Manhattan.
*His nearest relative in Pavoloch was his step-brother Welwel ---ICK (possibly
AURICK, the handwriting on the manifest is quite difficult to read).

I am interested in any and all SCHNAPARSKI/SNOPARSKYs and related families.

If anyone is familiar with JANKIELEWSKI; STEINBERG; WINAKUR/WINIKUR/WINOCUR
or Welwel ---ICK >from Pavoloch, Belaya Tserkov or vicinity I would *greatly*
appreciate hearing >from you!

Thanks so much and wishing you all a lovely week.

Regards,
Linda Silverman Shefler
Cary, NC
linsilv@...

In November 1911 Moshe and Itte SCHNAPARSKI nee JANKIELEWSKI arrived in NY. They
listed their place of birth as Belaya Tserkov, though it might be Pavoloch for
Moshe. *Itte had a brother Baruch JANKIELEWSKI who was still living in Belaya
Tserkov as of 1909.
* Moshe listed their destination as his brother-in-law Josel WINIKUR in
Brooklyn.
* I assume that Moshe changed his surname shortly after arriving, as there
are no further records of him.
I am hoping that perhaps someone is aware of the family of Moshe and Itte and can
advise me as to what they changed their name to. Some other names and information
connected with the SCHNAPARSKI family are:
* Moshe had a brother Boruch SCHNAPARSKY>SNOPARSKY who arrived in December 1909.
He eventually moved to Philadelphia along with (the above mentioned)Josel/Joseph
WINAKUR.
* Boruch/Benjamin changed the spelling of his name to SNOPARSKY.
* Upon arriving in the US he listed his destination as his brother-in-law Joseph
(and Mollie) STEINBERG in Manhattan.
*His nearest relative in Pavoloch was his step-brother Welwel ---ICK (possibly
AURICK, the handwriting on the manifest is quite difficult to read).

I am interested in any and all SCHNAPARSKI/SNOPARSKYs and related families.

If anyone is familiar with JANKIELEWSKI; STEINBERG; WINAKUR/WINIKUR/WINOCUR
or Welwel ---ICK >from Pavoloch, Belaya Tserkov or vicinity I would *greatly*
appreciate hearing >from you!

Thanks so much and wishing you all a lovely week.

Regards,
Linda Silverman Shefler
Cary, NC
linsilv@...

Subj: American Branch of DAVID Family >from Iasi

Hi, Geners!

I am researching the David family >from Iasi, Romania, but in spite of the help of
many researchers to whom I thank, mainly Ms. Nancy Greenberg, found nothing. The
story, in short, is: My paternal grandparents were Elkuni (Elkana) b. circa 1887
[killed in an air-raid, Iasi, 1944] and Haya-Malka David [died,Iasi, 1960].

Their children were Mina, b. before 1910[killed in the same air-raid, 1944], Aron
b. 1910 [died in Transnistria, circa 1941-4, after being expelled >from the Romanian
Army in Chernovici, currently in Ukraine], Shimon b. 1916 [killed in the Iasi
Pogrom in 1941], Shaul b. 1920 [killed in the Iasi Pogrom in 1941], Lora b. 1922
[died in Israel, 2006, no biologic children], and my father, David b. 1925, [died
in Israel,2001].

Elkuni is known to have had at least one sister Sheine/Sheindl, and is believed to
have had at least one brother in America, sending clothes to the family in Iasi
circa 1950.

Other clues I have:
1) The family tradition I found out lately, is that The origin of the family is
Sephardic, not Ashkenazi.
2) The last known residence of the family (until the early 1960'swas Stradela
Pantelimon * or * (not to be mixed with Strada pantelimon)

We don't even have the names of Elkuni's parent, so searching has been next to
impossible, including the Jewish community of Iasi not being able to find his death
certificate.

I'd appreciate any lead that advances me to finding the lost branches of the
family.


Sincerely,
Aharon David,
Rosh Ha-Ayin,
Israel
Researcher #262926

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publish house numbers for 72 years. Please reply privately to get the house number.

Subj: American Branch of DAVID Family >from Iasi

Hi, Geners!

I am researching the David family >from Iasi, Romania, but in spite of the help of
many researchers to whom I thank, mainly Ms. Nancy Greenberg, found nothing. The
story, in short, is: My paternal grandparents were Elkuni (Elkana) b. circa 1887
[killed in an air-raid, Iasi, 1944] and Haya-Malka David [died,Iasi, 1960].

Their children were Mina, b. before 1910[killed in the same air-raid, 1944], Aron
b. 1910 [died in Transnistria, circa 1941-4, after being expelled >from the Romanian
Army in Chernovici, currently in Ukraine], Shimon b. 1916 [killed in the Iasi
Pogrom in 1941], Shaul b. 1920 [killed in the Iasi Pogrom in 1941], Lora b. 1922
[died in Israel, 2006, no biologic children], and my father, David b. 1925, [died
in Israel,2001].

Elkuni is known to have had at least one sister Sheine/Sheindl, and is believed to
have had at least one brother in America, sending clothes to the family in Iasi
circa 1950.

Other clues I have:
1) The family tradition I found out lately, is that The origin of the family is
Sephardic, not Ashkenazi.
2) The last known residence of the family (until the early 1960'swas Stradela
Pantelimon * or * (not to be mixed with Strada pantelimon)

We don't even have the names of Elkuni's parent, so searching has been next to
impossible, including the Jewish community of Iasi not being able to find his death
certificate.

I'd appreciate any lead that advances me to finding the lost branches of the
family.


Sincerely,
Aharon David,
Rosh Ha-Ayin,
Israel
Researcher #262926

Moderator Note: House address numbers were removed - JewishGen policy is not to
publish house numbers for 72 years. Please reply privately to get the house number.

Hello all,

Please take a look at this Holocaust Museum website that was signalled to
the JRI-Poland group. If you go to this site, go to the search screen and in
the box for "place" enter just the letters "Lat". This will then give you a
list of the 1200+ people who fled Latvia to Tashkent at the beginning of
WWII -- their names appear in alphabetical order by family name.

Good luck!

Eric Benjaminson
oregon81@...

Researching:

BENJAMINSOHN -- Riga, Kuldiga, Aizpute, Liepaja, LATVIA
NURICK -- Riga, Kuldiga, Sabile, LATVIA
GALINSON -- Slutsk, BELARUS
MINTUS -- Warta, POLAND

Hello all,

Please take a look at this Holocaust Museum website that was signalled to
the JRI-Poland group. If you go to this site, go to the search screen and in
the box for "place" enter just the letters "Lat". This will then give you a
list of the 1200+ people who fled Latvia to Tashkent at the beginning of
WWII -- their names appear in alphabetical order by family name.

Good luck!

Eric Benjaminson
oregon81@...

Researching:

BENJAMINSOHN -- Riga, Kuldiga, Aizpute, Liepaja, LATVIA
NURICK -- Riga, Kuldiga, Sabile, LATVIA
GALINSON -- Slutsk, BELARUS
MINTUS -- Warta, POLAND

In November 1911 Moshe and Itte SCHNAPARSKI nee JANKIELEWSKI arrived in NY.
They listed their place of birth as Belaya Tserkov, though it might be
Pavoloch for Moshe.
*Itte had a brother Baruch JANKIELEWSKI who was still living in Belaya
Tserkov as of 1909.
* Moshe listed their destination as his brother-in-law Josel WINIKUR in
Brooklyn.
* I assume that Moshe changed his surname shortly after arriving, as there
are no further records of him.
I am hoping that perhaps someone is aware of the family of Moshe and Itte
and can advise me as to what they changed their name to.
Some other names and information connected with the SCHNAPARSKI family are:
* Moshe had a brother Boruch SCHNAPARSKY>SNOPARSKY who arrived in December
1909. He eventually moved to Philadelphia along with (the above mentioned)
Josel/Joseph WINAKUR.
* Boruch/Benjamin changed the spelling of his name to SNOPARSKY.
* Upon arriving in the US he listed his destination as his brother-in-law
Joseph (and Mollie) STEINBERG in Manhattan.
*His nearest relative in Pavoloch was his step-brother Welwel ---ICK
(possibly AURICK, the handwriting on the manifest is quite difficult to
read).

I am interested in any and all SCHNAPARSKI/SNOPARSKYs and related families.

If anyone is familiar with JANKIELEWSKI; STEINBERG; WINAKUR/WINIKUR/WINOCUR
or Welwel ---ICK >from Pavoloch, Belaya Tserkov or vicinity I would *greatly*
appreciate hearing >from you!

Thanks so much and wishing you all a lovely week.

Regards,
Linda Silverman Shefler
Cary, NC
linsilv@...

In November 1911 Moshe and Itte SCHNAPARSKI nee JANKIELEWSKI arrived in NY.
They listed their place of birth as Belaya Tserkov, though it might be
Pavoloch for Moshe.
*Itte had a brother Baruch JANKIELEWSKI who was still living in Belaya
Tserkov as of 1909.
* Moshe listed their destination as his brother-in-law Josel WINIKUR in
Brooklyn.
* I assume that Moshe changed his surname shortly after arriving, as there
are no further records of him.
I am hoping that perhaps someone is aware of the family of Moshe and Itte
and can advise me as to what they changed their name to.
Some other names and information connected with the SCHNAPARSKI family are:
* Moshe had a brother Boruch SCHNAPARSKY>SNOPARSKY who arrived in December
1909. He eventually moved to Philadelphia along with (the above mentioned)
Josel/Joseph WINAKUR.
* Boruch/Benjamin changed the spelling of his name to SNOPARSKY.
* Upon arriving in the US he listed his destination as his brother-in-law
Joseph (and Mollie) STEINBERG in Manhattan.
*His nearest relative in Pavoloch was his step-brother Welwel ---ICK
(possibly AURICK, the handwriting on the manifest is quite difficult to
read).

I am interested in any and all SCHNAPARSKI/SNOPARSKYs and related families.

If anyone is familiar with JANKIELEWSKI; STEINBERG; WINAKUR/WINIKUR/WINOCUR
or Welwel ---ICK >from Pavoloch, Belaya Tserkov or vicinity I would *greatly*
appreciate hearing >from you!

Thanks so much and wishing you all a lovely week.

Regards,
Linda Silverman Shefler
Cary, NC
linsilv@...

This is not my first request trying to locate members of the LAMM family,but thanks
to some key help >from Joanne Stone Wyman and Ned Lewison, I have been able to
compile a rather extensive Lamm family tree and now have more accurate information
on the family.

* The tree that I've compiled consists of 82 people; the head of the family was
Isaac LAMM born in Bavaria ~1796 and died in Cincinnati in 1851. The LAMM men were
clothiers; they started Lamm Brothers Clothiers in Cincinnati; moved to Baltimore
and Parkersburg, WV and eventually most of the family relocated to Chicago where
they opened Lamm and Co., wholesale tailors.
* Some other surnames found in the family are: STERN; HOFELD; GOLDSMITH;
FRIEND; LEBOLT; PIOSO; BLATT and WOOLF.
* With a few exceptions, until 1930 these families all lived in Chicago; the
exceptions seem to be several members who lived in Washington, DC.

Though I have no proof yet, I'm quite certain that Isaac LAMM was the father of my
gg grandmother Bertha LAMM MARX. I have contacted everyone listed in JGFF who might
be remotely connected to this family, but unfortunately haven't received any
responses. I would greatly appreciate hearing >from anyone who is connected to this
LAMM family; I'm happy to share the extensive work I've done and would love to find
some proof of the connection between Bertha and the clothier brothers!

Thanks so much in advance and wishing everyone a lovely week.

All the best,
Linda Silverman Shefler
Cary, NC
linsilv@...

This is not my first request trying to locate members of the LAMM family,but thanks
to some key help >from Joanne Stone Wyman and Ned Lewison, I have been able to
compile a rather extensive Lamm family tree and now have more accurate information
on the family.

* The tree that I've compiled consists of 82 people; the head of the family was
Isaac LAMM born in Bavaria ~1796 and died in Cincinnati in 1851. The LAMM men were
clothiers; they started Lamm Brothers Clothiers in Cincinnati; moved to Baltimore
and Parkersburg, WV and eventually most of the family relocated to Chicago where
they opened Lamm and Co., wholesale tailors.
* Some other surnames found in the family are: STERN; HOFELD; GOLDSMITH;
FRIEND; LEBOLT; PIOSO; BLATT and WOOLF.
* With a few exceptions, until 1930 these families all lived in Chicago; the
exceptions seem to be several members who lived in Washington, DC.

Though I have no proof yet, I'm quite certain that Isaac LAMM was the father of my
gg grandmother Bertha LAMM MARX. I have contacted everyone listed in JGFF who might
be remotely connected to this family, but unfortunately haven't received any
responses. I would greatly appreciate hearing >from anyone who is connected to this
LAMM family; I'm happy to share the extensive work I've done and would love to find
some proof of the connection between Bertha and the clothier brothers!

Thanks so much in advance and wishing everyone a lovely week.

All the best,
Linda Silverman Shefler
Cary, NC
linsilv@...

My husband's family history is that his grandfather and his grandfather's brothers
were supposed to go to Canada, but when the ship docked first in New York his
grandfather "jumped ship" while the brothers went on to Canada. This was in
approximately 1913. Because he was here illegaly he changed his name >from Isadore
EISENPRESSER to PRESSER, and never tried to obtain US citizenship.

Does anyone know how easy it was at that time to leave the ship in New York when
you were actually booked through to Canada? The only record I've been able to find
for him is in the 1920 Federal Census.

Sincerely,
Laurel Presser
Manalapan, NJ

My husband's family history is that his grandfather and his grandfather's brothers
were supposed to go to Canada, but when the ship docked first in New York his
grandfather "jumped ship" while the brothers went on to Canada. This was in
approximately 1913. Because he was here illegaly he changed his name >from Isadore
EISENPRESSER to PRESSER, and never tried to obtain US citizenship.

Does anyone know how easy it was at that time to leave the ship in New York when
you were actually booked through to Canada? The only record I've been able to find
for him is in the 1920 Federal Census.

Sincerely,
Laurel Presser
Manalapan, NJ