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BLUMENTHAL(Khrapun)from Lithuania #general

,
 

Hi genners,
I have recently recieved a copy of the 1874 (updated in 1894) census of my
paternal great grandparents family >from Vilkomir, Lithuania. It has enabled me
to tie up some loose ends and at the same time opens new doors. I had known
of some of my great grandfather's children, but have now found out that there
were a total of 12, including a set of twins. Although the family name was
Khrapun in Russian and Charpun in Polish, all the family took the name BLUMENTHAL
upon emmigrating to the US and I have listed those that I know emmigrated
with that name. Here is the information I have. I hope that someone recognizes
a family member.
Kalman Khrapun (b. 1830) married Esther Katz. Their children were
Abraham Blumenthal b.1869 d. April 7,1943 Brooklyn
Grisha Khrapun b.1866 d. July 10, 1924 in Lithuania.Married Chaya Geffen.
These were my grandparents.
Osvey Khrapun b.1864 d.1897
Liebe Mendel Blumenthal b.1873. On many ship manifests he is listed as the
person many family members were going to. He lived on Rutgers St. NYC but I
have been unable to locate him on any census.
Benjamin Mendel Blumenthal b. 1873 twin of Liebe Mendel
Leyzer Khrapun b.1879
Shora Khrapun b.1860 married to unknown
Minka (Minnie) Blumenthal b.May 15, 1863 d. July 10, 1928 in
Brooklyn.Married to unknown Weintraub.
Zelda Khrapun b.1872 married to unknown
Bliuma Paya b.1872 died in Vilnus Feb.1, 1902 unknown whether married or not.
Khava b.1877 married to unknown
Fruma (Fannie) Blumenthal b.1886 d.Dec 17, 1942 in Brooklyn NY Married Sam
Rosen in 1910
The 1910 NY census has Fannie and Sam living with Benny and his wife in
Brooklyn. Also listed on that census is Abie Blumenthal b.July 1893 immigrated
1910. He is listed as Benny's brother.
There are also listings on the ALD for an Efroim and Kalman Khrapun whose
father is Osvey. I don't know if the Kalman listed is my ggrandfather and Efroim
his brother.
I have additional information on those who immigrated to NY. I hope some of
these names are familiar to someone and will help me make more connections.
Carol Blumenthal-Cohen
Brooklyn NY


GOTTFRIED (NYC) - Gottfried Baking Company #general

Peregrine Maitland <273589roots@...>
 

For a research project focusing on the charitable work of Elias (d. 1937)
and Rachel (d. 1942) GOTTFRIED in the Polish town of Wielkie Oczy (
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/WielkieOczy/gottfriedtablet.htm ), I am
trying to contact Gottfrieds who may be descendents of Elias and Rachel
Gottfried.

Elias Gottfried was a founder of the Gottfried Baking Company and his
various sons were associated with the Hanscom Baking Corporation and
Silvercup Bakers, Inc.

Elias and Rachel Gottfried had 5 sons, 2 daughters: Benjamin, Philip,
Harold, Charles, Maurice, Jane (Jennie) and Sarah. Other known family names
of their descendents are Beatus, Prince, Binder and Ehrman.

If you are or know someone who is a descendent of these Gottfrieds, kindly
contact me privately.

Peregrine Maitland
273589roots@att.net
To reply, delete all numeric characters

from the return address given.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BLUMENTHAL(Khrapun)from Lithuania #general

,
 

Hi genners,
I have recently recieved a copy of the 1874 (updated in 1894) census of my
paternal great grandparents family >from Vilkomir, Lithuania. It has enabled me
to tie up some loose ends and at the same time opens new doors. I had known
of some of my great grandfather's children, but have now found out that there
were a total of 12, including a set of twins. Although the family name was
Khrapun in Russian and Charpun in Polish, all the family took the name BLUMENTHAL
upon emmigrating to the US and I have listed those that I know emmigrated
with that name. Here is the information I have. I hope that someone recognizes
a family member.
Kalman Khrapun (b. 1830) married Esther Katz. Their children were
Abraham Blumenthal b.1869 d. April 7,1943 Brooklyn
Grisha Khrapun b.1866 d. July 10, 1924 in Lithuania.Married Chaya Geffen.
These were my grandparents.
Osvey Khrapun b.1864 d.1897
Liebe Mendel Blumenthal b.1873. On many ship manifests he is listed as the
person many family members were going to. He lived on Rutgers St. NYC but I
have been unable to locate him on any census.
Benjamin Mendel Blumenthal b. 1873 twin of Liebe Mendel
Leyzer Khrapun b.1879
Shora Khrapun b.1860 married to unknown
Minka (Minnie) Blumenthal b.May 15, 1863 d. July 10, 1928 in
Brooklyn.Married to unknown Weintraub.
Zelda Khrapun b.1872 married to unknown
Bliuma Paya b.1872 died in Vilnus Feb.1, 1902 unknown whether married or not.
Khava b.1877 married to unknown
Fruma (Fannie) Blumenthal b.1886 d.Dec 17, 1942 in Brooklyn NY Married Sam
Rosen in 1910
The 1910 NY census has Fannie and Sam living with Benny and his wife in
Brooklyn. Also listed on that census is Abie Blumenthal b.July 1893 immigrated
1910. He is listed as Benny's brother.
There are also listings on the ALD for an Efroim and Kalman Khrapun whose
father is Osvey. I don't know if the Kalman listed is my ggrandfather and Efroim
his brother.
I have additional information on those who immigrated to NY. I hope some of
these names are familiar to someone and will help me make more connections.
Carol Blumenthal-Cohen
Brooklyn NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GOTTFRIED (NYC) - Gottfried Baking Company #general

Peregrine Maitland <273589roots@...>
 

For a research project focusing on the charitable work of Elias (d. 1937)
and Rachel (d. 1942) GOTTFRIED in the Polish town of Wielkie Oczy (
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/WielkieOczy/gottfriedtablet.htm ), I am
trying to contact Gottfrieds who may be descendents of Elias and Rachel
Gottfried.

Elias Gottfried was a founder of the Gottfried Baking Company and his
various sons were associated with the Hanscom Baking Corporation and
Silvercup Bakers, Inc.

Elias and Rachel Gottfried had 5 sons, 2 daughters: Benjamin, Philip,
Harold, Charles, Maurice, Jane (Jennie) and Sarah. Other known family names
of their descendents are Beatus, Prince, Binder and Ehrman.

If you are or know someone who is a descendent of these Gottfrieds, kindly
contact me privately.

Peregrine Maitland
273589roots@att.net
To reply, delete all numeric characters

from the return address given.


Elbing, West Prussia/Elblag, Poland Researchers #general

Carolyn Lea <clea@...>
 

Directories for Elbing, West Prussia have been copied and republished by an
individual researching the area. The following years are available: 1820,
1848, 1852, 1867, 1872, 1876, 1881, 1887, 1890, 1892, 1894, 1900, 1912. Also
a directory for villages in the Elbing area. If anyone is interested in
additional information please email me privately. These directories list
both Jewish and non-Jewish residents, address, and occupation.

I do not have a financial interest in this project but thought researchers
for this area may be interested in the directories as a resource. The
directories are in German.

Carolyn Lea
NW Ohio
clea@woh.rr.com
ID# 152314

Researching: SCHWARZBAUM/SCHWARTZBAUM > Posen, Prussia >New York,
Savannah, Georgia and California ROTHSCHILD/ROTHCHILD> Zierenberg, Hessen
Kassel, Prussia> Darien and Savannah, Georgia BASCH>Prussia>Savannah, Georgia
LEWISOHN/LEVISON Elbing, West Prussia> Brunswick and Savannah, Georgia,New York
OPPENHEIM > Savannah, Georgia WEINBERG >Prussia? > Georgia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Elbing, West Prussia/Elblag, Poland Researchers #general

Carolyn Lea <clea@...>
 

Directories for Elbing, West Prussia have been copied and republished by an
individual researching the area. The following years are available: 1820,
1848, 1852, 1867, 1872, 1876, 1881, 1887, 1890, 1892, 1894, 1900, 1912. Also
a directory for villages in the Elbing area. If anyone is interested in
additional information please email me privately. These directories list
both Jewish and non-Jewish residents, address, and occupation.

I do not have a financial interest in this project but thought researchers
for this area may be interested in the directories as a resource. The
directories are in German.

Carolyn Lea
NW Ohio
clea@woh.rr.com
ID# 152314

Researching: SCHWARZBAUM/SCHWARTZBAUM > Posen, Prussia >New York,
Savannah, Georgia and California ROTHSCHILD/ROTHCHILD> Zierenberg, Hessen
Kassel, Prussia> Darien and Savannah, Georgia BASCH>Prussia>Savannah, Georgia
LEWISOHN/LEVISON Elbing, West Prussia> Brunswick and Savannah, Georgia,New York
OPPENHEIM > Savannah, Georgia WEINBERG >Prussia? > Georgia


Genealogy quote from Lord Zuckerman #general

Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

'Wandering Jews were not in the habit of carrying their genealogical
records with them'.

This is a quote >from Lord Zuckerman's autobiography >from Apes to
Warlords, 1971.
Apes, 2).

I found it in The Dictionary of National Biography. This is now available
online www.oxforddnb.com

It is free to users of my local library, Swiss Cottaage, Camden, London, UK.
(Many of the Jewish related entries were done by JGSGB member Doreen Berger).
It is an illustrated listing of more than 50,000 specially written biographies
of the men and women relating to Britain, >from 4th Century BC to 2001. Only
dead people are listed)

Solly Zuckerman, became a Baron Zuckerman (1904–1993). He was born in Cape
Town, 30 May 1904. Son of Moses Zuckerman and Ruth (Glaser), a prominent
Zionist and social worker. His grandparents were >from eastern Europe.
SA Jewish RootsWeb http://chrysalis.its.uct.ac.za/CGI/cgi_RootWeb.exe shows a
naturalisation for ZUCKERMAN, Moses.b. 1882-00-00, Minsk, age 22. Arr. SA.
1902-00-00
Naturalization: 1904-00-00; Address in SA; 15 ??? Church St. A Boot and shoemaker.

In World War II, his research for the British government included the impact
of bombing on people and buildings. Post-war he was professor of anatomy at
Birmingham University (1946-68). He was chief scientific adviser to the
Ministry of Defence (1960), and subsequently chief scientific adviser to the
British government (1964 to 1971).

He was against the nuclear arms race.

He also served as the secretary of the Zoological Society of London >from 1955
to 1977 and as its President >from 1977 to 1984. Essentially he was one of the
pioneers of primate behavioural studies. His influence helped make science a
conventional part of Western world government policy.

Saul Issroff


Searching for records of BRENNER Family from 1873 to 1909, CHRZANOW POLAND #general

Sara Lieberum <saralieberum@...>
 

I am trying to find birth, marriage and death records for my Great
Grandfather Saul BRENNER, born around 1873, married to Ruchel Malka
Schneider around 1892 and giving birth to eight children, beginning with my
Grandfather, Phillip Brenner, born in Chrzanow on January 26, 1895, followed
by Ida, Israel, Joseph (Josef, Yosef), Murray (Moritz, Morris), Hilda,
Herman and Leo (Leopold).

Can anyone help direct me to finding more information?

Thanks,

Sara

Sara Lieberum
Email: saralieberum@comcast.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Genealogy quote from Lord Zuckerman #general

Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

'Wandering Jews were not in the habit of carrying their genealogical
records with them'.

This is a quote >from Lord Zuckerman's autobiography >from Apes to
Warlords, 1971.
Apes, 2).

I found it in The Dictionary of National Biography. This is now available
online www.oxforddnb.com

It is free to users of my local library, Swiss Cottaage, Camden, London, UK.
(Many of the Jewish related entries were done by JGSGB member Doreen Berger).
It is an illustrated listing of more than 50,000 specially written biographies
of the men and women relating to Britain, >from 4th Century BC to 2001. Only
dead people are listed)

Solly Zuckerman, became a Baron Zuckerman (1904–1993). He was born in Cape
Town, 30 May 1904. Son of Moses Zuckerman and Ruth (Glaser), a prominent
Zionist and social worker. His grandparents were >from eastern Europe.
SA Jewish RootsWeb http://chrysalis.its.uct.ac.za/CGI/cgi_RootWeb.exe shows a
naturalisation for ZUCKERMAN, Moses.b. 1882-00-00, Minsk, age 22. Arr. SA.
1902-00-00
Naturalization: 1904-00-00; Address in SA; 15 ??? Church St. A Boot and shoemaker.

In World War II, his research for the British government included the impact
of bombing on people and buildings. Post-war he was professor of anatomy at
Birmingham University (1946-68). He was chief scientific adviser to the
Ministry of Defence (1960), and subsequently chief scientific adviser to the
British government (1964 to 1971).

He was against the nuclear arms race.

He also served as the secretary of the Zoological Society of London >from 1955
to 1977 and as its President >from 1977 to 1984. Essentially he was one of the
pioneers of primate behavioural studies. His influence helped make science a
conventional part of Western world government policy.

Saul Issroff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for records of BRENNER Family from 1873 to 1909, CHRZANOW POLAND #general

Sara Lieberum <saralieberum@...>
 

I am trying to find birth, marriage and death records for my Great
Grandfather Saul BRENNER, born around 1873, married to Ruchel Malka
Schneider around 1892 and giving birth to eight children, beginning with my
Grandfather, Phillip Brenner, born in Chrzanow on January 26, 1895, followed
by Ida, Israel, Joseph (Josef, Yosef), Murray (Moritz, Morris), Hilda,
Herman and Leo (Leopold).

Can anyone help direct me to finding more information?

Thanks,

Sara

Sara Lieberum
Email: saralieberum@comcast.net


Re: Jacob SAVIN, Connecticut; reporting of suicides in early 1900's #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Rishy Savin asked about a possible suicide and about records about a
Jewish suicide during the years 1910 to 1920. His relative had
connections to New York and Connecticut, and he hasn't found him in
Connecticut records yet.

He should obviously start (or continue) in New York by looking at the
New York City death indices and certificates in the Municipal Archives at
31 Chambers Street, and the N.Y. State death indices in the New York NARA
branch at 201 Varick Street. (Since he mentioned that there was a chance
that his relative ran off with another woman, he should look at the N.Y.C.
marriage indices and certificates in the Municipal Archives and the N.Y.S.
marriage indices at NARA, too.)

In addition, the N.Y.C. Municipal Archives has the records of the
Office of the N.Y.C. Medical Examiner. The medical examiner reviewed all
sorts of 'suspicious' deaths, including homicides, accidents, poisonings,
injuries, deaths related to pregnancy and surgery, and so on. Suicides
are in this category, too. The death certificate itself may be subtly
different than the usual one, and labelled a 'Medical Examiner Death
Certificate.'

Unfortunately, I don't recall the exact year, but starting some time
well after 1920, a separate column called 'M.E. no.' appeared in the
N.Y.C. death indices. (The M.E. records started well before this column
existed; they're just not reflected in the indices of the older records.)
However, for the years in which this column appears, just because there's
an M.E. number doesn't mean that there will be an M.E. records for that
death, or that an autopsy was done. It just means that the physician
called the Office of the Medical Examiner about the case, for instance, if
the patient died under unknown circumstances. But if after a phone
conversation, it was decided that nothing suspicious occurred, the M.E.
office would have decided not to do anything else, and there would be no
other information.

There are frequently M.E. numbers for people who died outside of a
hospital, in an Emergency Room, or within 24 hours after being admitted to
a hospital. I think that it should be clear that if somebody died of a
heart attack in the street, the M.E. has no reason to get involved.

A happy Pesach again to everybody.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jacob SAVIN, Connecticut; reporting of suicides in early 1900's #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Rishy Savin asked about a possible suicide and about records about a
Jewish suicide during the years 1910 to 1920. His relative had
connections to New York and Connecticut, and he hasn't found him in
Connecticut records yet.

He should obviously start (or continue) in New York by looking at the
New York City death indices and certificates in the Municipal Archives at
31 Chambers Street, and the N.Y. State death indices in the New York NARA
branch at 201 Varick Street. (Since he mentioned that there was a chance
that his relative ran off with another woman, he should look at the N.Y.C.
marriage indices and certificates in the Municipal Archives and the N.Y.S.
marriage indices at NARA, too.)

In addition, the N.Y.C. Municipal Archives has the records of the
Office of the N.Y.C. Medical Examiner. The medical examiner reviewed all
sorts of 'suspicious' deaths, including homicides, accidents, poisonings,
injuries, deaths related to pregnancy and surgery, and so on. Suicides
are in this category, too. The death certificate itself may be subtly
different than the usual one, and labelled a 'Medical Examiner Death
Certificate.'

Unfortunately, I don't recall the exact year, but starting some time
well after 1920, a separate column called 'M.E. no.' appeared in the
N.Y.C. death indices. (The M.E. records started well before this column
existed; they're just not reflected in the indices of the older records.)
However, for the years in which this column appears, just because there's
an M.E. number doesn't mean that there will be an M.E. records for that
death, or that an autopsy was done. It just means that the physician
called the Office of the Medical Examiner about the case, for instance, if
the patient died under unknown circumstances. But if after a phone
conversation, it was decided that nothing suspicious occurred, the M.E.
office would have decided not to do anything else, and there would be no
other information.

There are frequently M.E. numbers for people who died outside of a
hospital, in an Emergency Room, or within 24 hours after being admitted to
a hospital. I think that it should be clear that if somebody died of a
heart attack in the street, the M.E. has no reason to get involved.

A happy Pesach again to everybody.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


Blaszki/Schwarzstadt #general

Br. Claude <brclaude@...>
 

An alternative name for Blaszki (a Polish town located on the road between
Kalisz and Sieradz) has come down in our family records as "Schwarzstadt".
The town had a large Jewish population >from the end of the 18th cent.until
WWII. There were also a good number of German Lutherans in this area, such
as the Gribnaus, my maternal great grandparents. They seen to have married
into a Jewish (converted to Catholicism) family named Janowski.

In any case, I noticed that Schwarzstadt is not given as an alternative name
for Blaszki on your web site. Perhaps the town was known by that name in
some Jewish family traditions, as well.

Claude Lane


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Blaszki/Schwarzstadt #general

Br. Claude <brclaude@...>
 

An alternative name for Blaszki (a Polish town located on the road between
Kalisz and Sieradz) has come down in our family records as "Schwarzstadt".
The town had a large Jewish population >from the end of the 18th cent.until
WWII. There were also a good number of German Lutherans in this area, such
as the Gribnaus, my maternal great grandparents. They seen to have married
into a Jewish (converted to Catholicism) family named Janowski.

In any case, I noticed that Schwarzstadt is not given as an alternative name
for Blaszki on your web site. Perhaps the town was known by that name in
some Jewish family traditions, as well.

Claude Lane


Blumenthal(Khrapun)from Lithuania #lithuania

,
 

I have recently recieved a copy of the 1874 (updated in 1894) census
of my paternal great grandparents family >from Vilkomir, Lithuania.
It has enabled me to tie up some loose ends and at the same time open
new doors. I had known of some of my great grandfather's children, but
have now found out that there were a total of 12, including a set of
twins.

Although the family name was Khrapun in Russian and Charpun in Polish,
all the family took the name Blumenthal upon emigrating to the US and
I have listed those that I know emigrated with that name. Here is the
information I have. I hope that someone recognizes a family member.

Kalman Khrapun (b. 1830) married Esther Katz. Their children were
Abraham Blumenthal b.1869 d. April 7,1943 Brooklyn Grisha Khrapun
b.1866 d. July 10, 1924 in Lithuania.Married Chaya Geffen.
These were my grandparents.
Osvey Khrapun b.1864 d.1897
Liebe Mendel Blumenthal b.1873. On many ship manifests he is listed as the
person many family members were going to. He lived on Rutgers St. NYC but I
have been unable to locate him on any census.
Benjamin Mendel Blumenthal b. 1873 twin of Liebe Mendel
Leyzer Khrapun b.1879
Shora Khrapun b.1860 married to unknown
Minka (Minnie) Blumenthal b.May 15, 1863 d. July 10, 1928 in
Brooklyn.Married to unknown Weintraub.
Zelda Khrapun b.1872 married to unknown
Bliuma Paya b.1872 died in Vilnus Feb.1, 1902 unknown whether married or not.
Khava b.1877 married to unknown
Fruma (Fannie) Blumenthal b.1886 d.Dec 17, 1942 in Brooklyn NY Married Sam
Rosen in 1910
The 1910 NY census has Fannie and Sam living with Benny and his wife in
Brooklyn. Also listed on that census is Abie Blumenthal b.July 1893
immigrated 1910. He is listed as Benny's brother.
There are also listings on the ALD for an Efroim and Kalman Khrapun whose
father is Osvey. I don't know if the Kalman listed is my ggrandfather
and Efroim his brother.

I have additional information on those who immigrated to NY. I hope some
of these names are familiar to someone and will help me make more
connections.

Carol Blumenthal-Cohen
Brooklyn NY

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Blumenthal(Khrapun)from Lithuania #lithuania

,
 

I have recently recieved a copy of the 1874 (updated in 1894) census
of my paternal great grandparents family >from Vilkomir, Lithuania.
It has enabled me to tie up some loose ends and at the same time open
new doors. I had known of some of my great grandfather's children, but
have now found out that there were a total of 12, including a set of
twins.

Although the family name was Khrapun in Russian and Charpun in Polish,
all the family took the name Blumenthal upon emigrating to the US and
I have listed those that I know emigrated with that name. Here is the
information I have. I hope that someone recognizes a family member.

Kalman Khrapun (b. 1830) married Esther Katz. Their children were
Abraham Blumenthal b.1869 d. April 7,1943 Brooklyn Grisha Khrapun
b.1866 d. July 10, 1924 in Lithuania.Married Chaya Geffen.
These were my grandparents.
Osvey Khrapun b.1864 d.1897
Liebe Mendel Blumenthal b.1873. On many ship manifests he is listed as the
person many family members were going to. He lived on Rutgers St. NYC but I
have been unable to locate him on any census.
Benjamin Mendel Blumenthal b. 1873 twin of Liebe Mendel
Leyzer Khrapun b.1879
Shora Khrapun b.1860 married to unknown
Minka (Minnie) Blumenthal b.May 15, 1863 d. July 10, 1928 in
Brooklyn.Married to unknown Weintraub.
Zelda Khrapun b.1872 married to unknown
Bliuma Paya b.1872 died in Vilnus Feb.1, 1902 unknown whether married or not.
Khava b.1877 married to unknown
Fruma (Fannie) Blumenthal b.1886 d.Dec 17, 1942 in Brooklyn NY Married Sam
Rosen in 1910
The 1910 NY census has Fannie and Sam living with Benny and his wife in
Brooklyn. Also listed on that census is Abie Blumenthal b.July 1893
immigrated 1910. He is listed as Benny's brother.
There are also listings on the ALD for an Efroim and Kalman Khrapun whose
father is Osvey. I don't know if the Kalman listed is my ggrandfather
and Efroim his brother.

I have additional information on those who immigrated to NY. I hope some
of these names are familiar to someone and will help me make more
connections.

Carol Blumenthal-Cohen
Brooklyn NY

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Grodner Yarnova #lithuania

Sharon Avraham <shouav@...>
 

Hi Listers

I have joined the Litvak list because I think that I have suddenly found
(although my mother always said that they were Litvaks), that my
ggrandparents are Litvaks. They were Rachel and Barnett Spitalsky.
According to an elderly cousin of my father's they came >from a place called
Grodner Yarnova, the only place I can find that is near this name is Janova.
Can anyone confirm to me that this is the same place? If not, has anyone
heard of this place/town/city/shetl. I could not find any Spitalsky's in
Janova, on the lists that are available. My ggrandparents were called
Eliyou and Annie (nee Mofsky) Spitalsky. Should anyone be able to help I
would be most grateful, with this information I actually made a breakthrough
in my research, I found where and when that Rachel and Barnett were buried!
According to my father's cousin they also arrived in England in 1892!!

Any help, information or comments, would be most most gratefully
appreciated.

Hug Samach to everything.

Sharon - Netanya, Israel
Researching: Spitalsky, Spitallen, Keminic, Kenwick, Segal, Segalovitch,
Flatter


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Grodner Yarnova #lithuania

Sharon Avraham <shouav@...>
 

Hi Listers

I have joined the Litvak list because I think that I have suddenly found
(although my mother always said that they were Litvaks), that my
ggrandparents are Litvaks. They were Rachel and Barnett Spitalsky.
According to an elderly cousin of my father's they came >from a place called
Grodner Yarnova, the only place I can find that is near this name is Janova.
Can anyone confirm to me that this is the same place? If not, has anyone
heard of this place/town/city/shetl. I could not find any Spitalsky's in
Janova, on the lists that are available. My ggrandparents were called
Eliyou and Annie (nee Mofsky) Spitalsky. Should anyone be able to help I
would be most grateful, with this information I actually made a breakthrough
in my research, I found where and when that Rachel and Barnett were buried!
According to my father's cousin they also arrived in England in 1892!!

Any help, information or comments, would be most most gratefully
appreciated.

Hug Samach to everything.

Sharon - Netanya, Israel
Researching: Spitalsky, Spitallen, Keminic, Kenwick, Segal, Segalovitch,
Flatter


Re: Looking for Private Researcher in Lithuania #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

You did not mention the shtetls your family was actually >from which would be
helpful.

I would suggest you try the following if you have not done so already:

1. Search the ALD and the JewishGen Lithuania Databases first. Much of the
records for Lithuania are already on the web for you or are in the process
of being translated.

2. Join any existing SIGs which are associated with your ancestral shtetls
such as the Rokiskis SIG which already have records too.

3. If you do not find what you require, then make a request of the
Lithuanian Archives to obtain records.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania RE: Looking for Private Researcher in Lithuania #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

You did not mention the shtetls your family was actually >from which would be
helpful.

I would suggest you try the following if you have not done so already:

1. Search the ALD and the JewishGen Lithuania Databases first. Much of the
records for Lithuania are already on the web for you or are in the process
of being translated.

2. Join any existing SIGs which are associated with your ancestral shtetls
such as the Rokiskis SIG which already have records too.

3. If you do not find what you require, then make a request of the
Lithuanian Archives to obtain records.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net