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WOLINSKI, Riana born 1932 ->Poland, Hungary, US
#general
Sue Fifer <suef@...>
Three years ago I posted a message about the WOLINSKI family as I had
acquired a protected person passport relating to their time in Hungary, part of which was spent with my partner's family in Mako followed by Budapest. Riana was the daughter of the family. I had assumed that they had died, despite having the Salvador passport, since the documentation ended up with us and not with them. I have now learned that Riana at least went to the US after the war as she was in correspondence for a time with someone in my partner's home town. I have no idea if she married and what her name would have become. I would be delighted if anyone who knew of her could put me in touch. Her father's name was Artur, her mother Gizela and her brother Stefan. If the brother survived he would presumably have kept the Wolinsky name and might have anglicised his given name to Steven/Stephen. He was born in 1934. Please reply privately. Sue Fifer, London, England suef@dial.pipex.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WOLINSKI, Riana born 1932 ->Poland, Hungary, US
#general
Sue Fifer <suef@...>
Three years ago I posted a message about the WOLINSKI family as I had
acquired a protected person passport relating to their time in Hungary, part of which was spent with my partner's family in Mako followed by Budapest. Riana was the daughter of the family. I had assumed that they had died, despite having the Salvador passport, since the documentation ended up with us and not with them. I have now learned that Riana at least went to the US after the war as she was in correspondence for a time with someone in my partner's home town. I have no idea if she married and what her name would have become. I would be delighted if anyone who knew of her could put me in touch. Her father's name was Artur, her mother Gizela and her brother Stefan. If the brother survived he would presumably have kept the Wolinsky name and might have anglicised his given name to Steven/Stephen. He was born in 1934. Please reply privately. Sue Fifer, London, England suef@dial.pipex.com
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Slutsk, LDS film 2010468, & Vitaly Charny
#general
Bob Kosovsky
(Those on the Belarus email list please forgive the duplication)
Hey folks, I finally saw LDS film 2010468 - which is the film mentioned on the JewishGen site devoted to the 1816/1818 census of Slutsk - and lists my surname - presumably an ancestor. (I'll need a later census to confirm it.) As Vitaly Charny (the person who created the list) told me, reading 19th century Russian (and occasionally Belarussian and Polish, and even Hebrew) handwriting can be a challenge, so I want to thank the many people who gave me suggestions - and even images - of cursive Russian handwriting. It helps a great deal, and thankfully, my surname is kind of distinctive so I think I recognized it when it occurred (I found about 5 instances in various revision lists). Once I found my surname listed, I simply took it over to be copied. At the FHL facility in Queens, NY (a short walk >from Mt. Zion cemetery) you can get photocopies or digital scans >from the microfilm - nice! At one point while I was in the Family History Library, I needed to refer to the list on the JewishGen site -- and discovered that the JewishGen domain is blocked by the Church!! So all of you people going to Utah - beware of not having access. (Something which I find wonderfully amusing - but I digress.) I do have a question about this wonderful film (which also includes revision lists >from Igumen, Borisov and neighboring areas within the Slutsk uyezd). Miriam Weiner's Routes to Roots Foundation database indicates which archival materials in the National Historical Archives of Belarus contains relevant items on Slutsk pertinent to Jews. She does not list the materials which are on this film (series 333, folder 9, item 212). So how did Vitaly know that there would be Jewish material on this film? In fact, there's a lot of it. The material is all in ledger books which were apparently bound together and filmed that way. Occasionally the Jewish representatives have signed the initial pages of the revision lists in addition to the census taker. In one case, it looked as if the entire congregation of someplace signed their names in both Russian and Hebrew. A very interesting experience - I intend to go back next week. (Meanwhile others can look at the film while it's in Queens.) And many thanks to Vitaly Charny, who has used his unique knowledge to give so much to the rest of us. Bob Kosovsky - New York City seeking *any and all* permutations of: KOSOFSKI/Y, KOSOVSKI/Y, KOSOWSKI/Y, KOSSOFSKI/Y, KOSSOVSKI/Y, KOSSOWSKI/Y, KASOFSKI/Y, KASOVSKI/Y, KASOWSKI/Y, KASSOFSKI/Y, KASSOVSKI/Y, KASSOWSKI/Y, CASOFSKI/Y, CASOVSKI/Y, CASOWSKI, CASSOFSKI/Y, CASSOVSKI/Y, CASSOWSKI/Y, KOSSOVE, KOSOW, etc. etc.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Slutsk, LDS film 2010468, & Vitaly Charny
#general
Bob Kosovsky
(Those on the Belarus email list please forgive the duplication)
Hey folks, I finally saw LDS film 2010468 - which is the film mentioned on the JewishGen site devoted to the 1816/1818 census of Slutsk - and lists my surname - presumably an ancestor. (I'll need a later census to confirm it.) As Vitaly Charny (the person who created the list) told me, reading 19th century Russian (and occasionally Belarussian and Polish, and even Hebrew) handwriting can be a challenge, so I want to thank the many people who gave me suggestions - and even images - of cursive Russian handwriting. It helps a great deal, and thankfully, my surname is kind of distinctive so I think I recognized it when it occurred (I found about 5 instances in various revision lists). Once I found my surname listed, I simply took it over to be copied. At the FHL facility in Queens, NY (a short walk >from Mt. Zion cemetery) you can get photocopies or digital scans >from the microfilm - nice! At one point while I was in the Family History Library, I needed to refer to the list on the JewishGen site -- and discovered that the JewishGen domain is blocked by the Church!! So all of you people going to Utah - beware of not having access. (Something which I find wonderfully amusing - but I digress.) I do have a question about this wonderful film (which also includes revision lists >from Igumen, Borisov and neighboring areas within the Slutsk uyezd). Miriam Weiner's Routes to Roots Foundation database indicates which archival materials in the National Historical Archives of Belarus contains relevant items on Slutsk pertinent to Jews. She does not list the materials which are on this film (series 333, folder 9, item 212). So how did Vitaly know that there would be Jewish material on this film? In fact, there's a lot of it. The material is all in ledger books which were apparently bound together and filmed that way. Occasionally the Jewish representatives have signed the initial pages of the revision lists in addition to the census taker. In one case, it looked as if the entire congregation of someplace signed their names in both Russian and Hebrew. A very interesting experience - I intend to go back next week. (Meanwhile others can look at the film while it's in Queens.) And many thanks to Vitaly Charny, who has used his unique knowledge to give so much to the rest of us. Bob Kosovsky - New York City seeking *any and all* permutations of: KOSOFSKI/Y, KOSOVSKI/Y, KOSOWSKI/Y, KOSSOFSKI/Y, KOSSOVSKI/Y, KOSSOWSKI/Y, KASOFSKI/Y, KASOVSKI/Y, KASOWSKI/Y, KASSOFSKI/Y, KASSOVSKI/Y, KASSOWSKI/Y, CASOFSKI/Y, CASOVSKI/Y, CASOWSKI, CASSOFSKI/Y, CASSOVSKI/Y, CASSOWSKI/Y, KOSSOVE, KOSOW, etc. etc.
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FRANKEL/FRAENKEL Update
#galicia
moishe@langsam.com <moishe@...>
Hello,
Thanks to Logan Kleinwaks, it seems I have an update to my post yesterday. I am looking for anyone that knows of Sara Sulamita FRAENKEL, born Oct 4, 1928 Krakow to Jozef Hirsz & Rajzla FRAENKEL. She may have married Hirsch Meiloch KORNREICH, born Jun 26, 1928 in Oswiecim to Juda & Gusta SILBIGER. She survived the war and lived until 1947 in Krakow. The family is connected to HALBERSTAM family. Some other relatives: Salomon and Symche FRANKEL, sons of Simche and Marien HALBERSTAM. Thank you, Moishe Miller Brooklyn, NY moishe.miller@totalben.com
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia FRANKEL/FRAENKEL Update
#galicia
moishe@langsam.com <moishe@...>
Hello,
Thanks to Logan Kleinwaks, it seems I have an update to my post yesterday. I am looking for anyone that knows of Sara Sulamita FRAENKEL, born Oct 4, 1928 Krakow to Jozef Hirsz & Rajzla FRAENKEL. She may have married Hirsch Meiloch KORNREICH, born Jun 26, 1928 in Oswiecim to Juda & Gusta SILBIGER. She survived the war and lived until 1947 in Krakow. The family is connected to HALBERSTAM family. Some other relatives: Salomon and Symche FRANKEL, sons of Simche and Marien HALBERSTAM. Thank you, Moishe Miller Brooklyn, NY moishe.miller@totalben.com
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Re: R' Jakov Moshe Helin
#rabbinic
Dick Plotz
On 2007.04.18, Gilbert Hendlisz <hendlisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
[... in] the book by H.J. Michael[...] I did not find any moreR' Avram Helin, father of Jede Moshe (and my 11-greats-grandfather) was a great-great-grandson of MaHaRSHaL in the female line. Details can be found in the large Solomon Luria chart in Neil Rosenstein's book _The Lurie Legacy: The House of Davidic Royal Descent_. Dr. Rosenstein may be able to enlighten us about his sources. Dick Plotz Providence, Rhode Island, USA
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Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: R' Jakov Moshe Helin
#rabbinic
Dick Plotz
On 2007.04.18, Gilbert Hendlisz <hendlisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
[... in] the book by H.J. Michael[...] I did not find any moreR' Avram Helin, father of Jede Moshe (and my 11-greats-grandfather) was a great-great-grandson of MaHaRSHaL in the female line. Details can be found in the large Solomon Luria chart in Neil Rosenstein's book _The Lurie Legacy: The House of Davidic Royal Descent_. Dr. Rosenstein may be able to enlighten us about his sources. Dick Plotz Providence, Rhode Island, USA
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Re: Prokurow, Russia
#general
Jane Rosen Berenbeim
"Prokurow" may refer to "Proskurov" (in western Podolia gubernia of
Russian Empire, now Ukraine). Current name of town is Khelmnytskyi. Jane Berenbeim NYC
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Re: Prokurow, Russia
#general
Alexander Sharon
Gayle Schlissel Riley wrote:
One of the senior students in my genealogy classHi Gail, Proskurov, Podolia region, Ukraine at 4925 2700, was renamed Khmelnytskyy in 1954 to commemorate 300 years old treaty between Russia and murderer Bohdan Khmelnitsky. The town was notable for a series of anti-Jewish pogroms carried out in the region, the last of which claimed an estimated 1,500 lives on February 15, 1919. Khmelnytskyy should not be confused with Pereyaslav-Khmelnitskyi, a city in Ukraine's Kiev Oblast. -- Regards, Alexander Sharon JGFF editor
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Prokurow, Russia
#general
Jane Rosen Berenbeim
"Prokurow" may refer to "Proskurov" (in western Podolia gubernia of
Russian Empire, now Ukraine). Current name of town is Khelmnytskyi. Jane Berenbeim NYC
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Prokurow, Russia
#general
Alexander Sharon
Gayle Schlissel Riley wrote:
One of the senior students in my genealogy classHi Gail, Proskurov, Podolia region, Ukraine at 4925 2700, was renamed Khmelnytskyy in 1954 to commemorate 300 years old treaty between Russia and murderer Bohdan Khmelnitsky. The town was notable for a series of anti-Jewish pogroms carried out in the region, the last of which claimed an estimated 1,500 lives on February 15, 1919. Khmelnytskyy should not be confused with Pereyaslav-Khmelnitskyi, a city in Ukraine's Kiev Oblast. -- Regards, Alexander Sharon JGFF editor
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Romantic relationships in the Old Country
#general
Marilwebb@...
I am trying to piece together a likely scenario for my great-grandparents,
who had what we would now call "issues." They got married when she was 12 or 13. Was this normal in small Ukrainian villages? In Odessa? And were they likely to have sex before they married? Or was it strictly monitored so there was no sex until the Jewish wedding? I know what's "proper" but, well, what was really likely to happen? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Marilyn Webb
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Romantic relationships in the Old Country
#general
Marilwebb@...
I am trying to piece together a likely scenario for my great-grandparents,
who had what we would now call "issues." They got married when she was 12 or 13. Was this normal in small Ukrainian villages? In Odessa? And were they likely to have sex before they married? Or was it strictly monitored so there was no sex until the Jewish wedding? I know what's "proper" but, well, what was really likely to happen? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Marilyn Webb
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Pruskurov
#general
Lorna Kay <lorna.kay@...>
Dear Gayle
Pruskurov (now known as Khmelnytsky) is in Podolia in the Ukraine, and some of my own family came >from this area. It is very well documented and by typing the name into Google, the websites covering this area are listed. It has a very colourful and tragic history. Lorna Kay Chairman - Manchester Regional Group Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain Researching WEISBERG (Kamenets Podolsk, Ukraine) SEABERG (Tukums, Latvia) KUTCHINSKY (Piotrkow, Russia-Poland) FROMBERG (Russia) BLUESTONE (Roumania) VALENSTEIN (Russia)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Pruskurov
#general
Lorna Kay <lorna.kay@...>
Dear Gayle
Pruskurov (now known as Khmelnytsky) is in Podolia in the Ukraine, and some of my own family came >from this area. It is very well documented and by typing the name into Google, the websites covering this area are listed. It has a very colourful and tragic history. Lorna Kay Chairman - Manchester Regional Group Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain Researching WEISBERG (Kamenets Podolsk, Ukraine) SEABERG (Tukums, Latvia) KUTCHINSKY (Piotrkow, Russia-Poland) FROMBERG (Russia) BLUESTONE (Roumania) VALENSTEIN (Russia)
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Polish translation help needed
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Ruth and Bruce Lynn <lynn33@...>
Hello,
I have posted a letter sent to me by a Polish genealogical researcher on the ViewMate site (http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) in the To View section - as files - VM9845 and VM9846 The first file is page one, and the second file is page 2 of this letter. The direct addresses for the 2 files are: http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=9845 http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=9846 I would appreciate any help in translating the two pages of this letter. Please send responses directly to me at lynn33@rcn.com, not to the SIG listserv. Thanks in advance for your time and generosity. Ruth Nadelman Lynn Lexington, MA lynn33@rcn.com MODERATOR NOTE: Private replies requested.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Polish translation help needed
#general
Ruth and Bruce Lynn <lynn33@...>
Hello,
I have posted a letter sent to me by a Polish genealogical researcher on the ViewMate site (http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) in the To View section - as files - VM9845 and VM9846 The first file is page one, and the second file is page 2 of this letter. The direct addresses for the 2 files are: http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=9845 http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=9846 I would appreciate any help in translating the two pages of this letter. Please send responses directly to me at lynn33@rcn.com, not to the SIG listserv. Thanks in advance for your time and generosity. Ruth Nadelman Lynn Lexington, MA lynn33@rcn.com MODERATOR NOTE: Private replies requested.
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need interpretation
#general
Mark Belafsky
Hello again! I need help with interpretation of a town >from a ships
manifest. It can be viewed on the following site, or directly on VM9822. Much Thanks!! http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=9822 Mark Belafsky markbelafsky63@mac.com MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen need interpretation
#general
Mark Belafsky
Hello again! I need help with interpretation of a town >from a ships
manifest. It can be viewed on the following site, or directly on VM9822. Much Thanks!! http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=9822 Mark Belafsky markbelafsky63@mac.com MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.
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