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Re: Israel as second name #sephardic

Enzo Falco
 

I have Israel as a first and middle name in my genealogy data of
Italian Jews. This name existed >from the 1500s to the present. I do
not know where their ancestors came >from so I cannot state which of
them were of Sephardic origin.

Enzo Falco
Belmont, Massachusetts USA
enzofalco@...

Researching (Northwest Italy) ARTOM, AVIGDOR, BACHI, BASEVI,
CANTARINI, DI CAPUA, CAVAGLIONE, COLOMBO, DEBENEDETTI, DELLO
STROLOGO, DINA, DIPORTO, FALCO, FINZI, FOA, FUBINI, JACHIA, JONA,
LASCAR, LATTES, LEVI, LOEWENTHAL, LOMBARDINI, LOMBROSO, MONSELISE,
OLIVETTI, OTTOLENGHI, PAVIA, PICARD, PUGLIESE, SACERDOTE, SEGRE,
TEDESCHI, TEGLIO, TREVES, VALABREGA, VITALE


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Re: Israel as second name #sephardic

Enzo Falco
 

I have Israel as a first and middle name in my genealogy data of
Italian Jews. This name existed >from the 1500s to the present. I do
not know where their ancestors came >from so I cannot state which of
them were of Sephardic origin.

Enzo Falco
Belmont, Massachusetts USA
enzofalco@...

Researching (Northwest Italy) ARTOM, AVIGDOR, BACHI, BASEVI,
CANTARINI, DI CAPUA, CAVAGLIONE, COLOMBO, DEBENEDETTI, DELLO
STROLOGO, DINA, DIPORTO, FALCO, FINZI, FOA, FUBINI, JACHIA, JONA,
LASCAR, LATTES, LEVI, LOEWENTHAL, LOMBARDINI, LOMBROSO, MONSELISE,
OLIVETTI, OTTOLENGHI, PAVIA, PICARD, PUGLIESE, SACERDOTE, SEGRE,
TEDESCHI, TEGLIO, TREVES, VALABREGA, VITALE


Re: Israel as second name #sephardic

Mathilde Tagger <tagger@...>
 

Dear Esther,

You wrote:
My father Otto Israel Ascher was born in Hamburg and came >from a
Sephardic family.> My question is whether the Hebrew addition Israel is particular to
Sephardic families?
----->
Any male Jew is given a Hebrew name at his circumcision, and this is
according to a law written in the Torah (Genesis 17:9-12). As you
understand, this law concern ALL the Jewish males: Sephardim, Oriental and
Ashkenazim.

But living in the Diaspora, Jews, especially >from the end of the 19th
century and in the 30th century, got another name, non-Jewish.
This is how your father was called Israel (Jewish name given at the
circumcision) and Otto a German given name.

By the way, there is an excellent book about the Sephardim who lived in
Hamburg. It is of great help for a genealogical research.

Halevy Stundemund, Michael. Biographisches Lexikon des Hamburger Sefarden:
die Grabschriften des Portugiensenfriedhaus an der K?nigstrasse im
Hamburg/Altona. Hamburg, Instituet fuer die Geschichte der deutschen
Juden, 2000. 906p. (German) [Biographical Dictionary of the Sephardim
in Hamburg: on the epitaphs >from the Portuguese Cemetery in Koenig Street in
Hambug/Altona]

It includes ca7500 graves, beginning of the 17thcent till 1860 aad all the
possible biographical details and a joint bibliography for most of the
graves.

Shalom,

Mathilde Tagger
Sephardim SIG Coordinator
Israel Genealogical Society


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Re: Israel as second name #sephardic

Mathilde Tagger <tagger@...>
 

Dear Esther,

You wrote:
My father Otto Israel Ascher was born in Hamburg and came >from a
Sephardic family.> My question is whether the Hebrew addition Israel is particular to
Sephardic families?
----->
Any male Jew is given a Hebrew name at his circumcision, and this is
according to a law written in the Torah (Genesis 17:9-12). As you
understand, this law concern ALL the Jewish males: Sephardim, Oriental and
Ashkenazim.

But living in the Diaspora, Jews, especially >from the end of the 19th
century and in the 30th century, got another name, non-Jewish.
This is how your father was called Israel (Jewish name given at the
circumcision) and Otto a German given name.

By the way, there is an excellent book about the Sephardim who lived in
Hamburg. It is of great help for a genealogical research.

Halevy Stundemund, Michael. Biographisches Lexikon des Hamburger Sefarden:
die Grabschriften des Portugiensenfriedhaus an der K?nigstrasse im
Hamburg/Altona. Hamburg, Instituet fuer die Geschichte der deutschen
Juden, 2000. 906p. (German) [Biographical Dictionary of the Sephardim
in Hamburg: on the epitaphs >from the Portuguese Cemetery in Koenig Street in
Hambug/Altona]

It includes ca7500 graves, beginning of the 17thcent till 1860 aad all the
possible biographical details and a joint bibliography for most of the
graves.

Shalom,

Mathilde Tagger
Sephardim SIG Coordinator
Israel Genealogical Society


Re: Israel as second name #sephardic

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 5/2/2007 marriana@... writes:

<< My father Otto Israel Ascher was born in Hamburg and came >from a
Sephardic family. My question is whether the Hebrew addition Israel is particular to
Sephardic families? >>

No, any Jew in Germany may have been given Israel as a second personal name
by his father.

You need to know, however, that the Nazis forced every male Jew to add the
name Israel to his name, unless he already bore one of a limited list of
names that the law had determined were "Jewish." It was one way the German used
to identify Jews in public and in business, a step toward limiting their
rights and eventually exterminating them.

==Jewish woman were similarly forced to add Sarah to their names.

The law was altered after the end of WW 2 and local officials were ordered
to go through all personal records and make a note on each that the Israel
or Sarah was no longer part of the name.

You may need to check whether your father had borne the name Israel before
the Nazi edict. Of all the secular personal names that are commonly
associated with the Hebrew name Israel, Oscar does not rank very high.


Michael Bernet
MBernet@...


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Re: Israel as second name #sephardic

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 5/2/2007 marriana@... writes:

<< My father Otto Israel Ascher was born in Hamburg and came >from a
Sephardic family. My question is whether the Hebrew addition Israel is particular to
Sephardic families? >>

No, any Jew in Germany may have been given Israel as a second personal name
by his father.

You need to know, however, that the Nazis forced every male Jew to add the
name Israel to his name, unless he already bore one of a limited list of
names that the law had determined were "Jewish." It was one way the German used
to identify Jews in public and in business, a step toward limiting their
rights and eventually exterminating them.

==Jewish woman were similarly forced to add Sarah to their names.

The law was altered after the end of WW 2 and local officials were ordered
to go through all personal records and make a note on each that the Israel
or Sarah was no longer part of the name.

You may need to check whether your father had borne the name Israel before
the Nazi edict. Of all the secular personal names that are commonly
associated with the Hebrew name Israel, Oscar does not rank very high.


Michael Bernet
MBernet@...


Searching for COTLER in Tampa, Florida #general

Flo Elman
 

I am trying to find members of the COTLER family who live(d) in Tampa,
Florida. >from what I've been able to learn through cousins & old letters,
they are descended >from Israel (Srulik) COTLER & his wife Anita (her surname
may have been SURIS). They were likely born around 1880-85.
They had 4 children, Lola (?), Mischa (wife Mona), Sam (wife Ruth) & Harry.
They were probably born around 1910 - 1915.
Mischa & Mona had 2 children ... a daughter, & a son Irwin who was born in
1950, & was killed in an automobile accident, probably in July of 1974.

Other relatives were Basha married to Annetta with 3 children, Dave, Ralph,
& Millie. A "Ben" was mentioned who had 3 children, Anna (who had a son
Jerry & a granddaughter Sherri-Ellen, born in January 1956, Lily (married to
Jack in 1955) & a son Sydney, who had a son born on July 4, 1955.

These people are cousins to my grandmother who took frequent trips to see
Srulik in Florida. I believe many of the family still reside in Tampa. If
you recognize any of these names as belonging to a family you know, could
you please contact me privately at haflo@....

Many thanks,
Florence Elman
(connected to Montreal, QuebecCanada)


Archives of Hunts Point Jewish Center, Bronx NY #general

Marc DVer <mdver@...>
 

I have reason to believe my great-uncle was a member of the Hunts Point
Jewish Center in the Bronx. My research into the Hunts Point Jewish
Center on the internet has revealed very little, and nothing of use for
my purposes. Has anyone heard of this place, and if so, what its
current status is, if any, or if it is defunct, who would have records
generated by Hunts Point?

Marc DVer

Dver (Dvinsk/Daugvapils Latvia)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for COTLER in Tampa, Florida #general

Flo Elman
 

I am trying to find members of the COTLER family who live(d) in Tampa,
Florida. >from what I've been able to learn through cousins & old letters,
they are descended >from Israel (Srulik) COTLER & his wife Anita (her surname
may have been SURIS). They were likely born around 1880-85.
They had 4 children, Lola (?), Mischa (wife Mona), Sam (wife Ruth) & Harry.
They were probably born around 1910 - 1915.
Mischa & Mona had 2 children ... a daughter, & a son Irwin who was born in
1950, & was killed in an automobile accident, probably in July of 1974.

Other relatives were Basha married to Annetta with 3 children, Dave, Ralph,
& Millie. A "Ben" was mentioned who had 3 children, Anna (who had a son
Jerry & a granddaughter Sherri-Ellen, born in January 1956, Lily (married to
Jack in 1955) & a son Sydney, who had a son born on July 4, 1955.

These people are cousins to my grandmother who took frequent trips to see
Srulik in Florida. I believe many of the family still reside in Tampa. If
you recognize any of these names as belonging to a family you know, could
you please contact me privately at haflo@....

Many thanks,
Florence Elman
(connected to Montreal, QuebecCanada)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Archives of Hunts Point Jewish Center, Bronx NY #general

Marc DVer <mdver@...>
 

I have reason to believe my great-uncle was a member of the Hunts Point
Jewish Center in the Bronx. My research into the Hunts Point Jewish
Center on the internet has revealed very little, and nothing of use for
my purposes. Has anyone heard of this place, and if so, what its
current status is, if any, or if it is defunct, who would have records
generated by Hunts Point?

Marc DVer

Dver (Dvinsk/Daugvapils Latvia)


Re: Jewish emigration book #general

Ron Schorr
 

I don't know where you live but the OCLC WorldCat lists copies in The
New York Public Library, the Association of Research Libraries in
Washington DC, and Hebrew Union College in Cincinnati OH.
But you will have to look the book up under the spelling Wurttemberg.
I'm sure any reference librarian can find the listing.

You also might look for a book titled the Wuerttemberg Emigration Index,
by Trudy Schenk and Ruth Froelke. It was published by ancestry.com and
is found in many libraries. Much, if not all of its contents are on the
Ancestry.com website (your library may subscribe)

Good luck

---
"Judy Landauer" <geniegal@...> wrote

I was wondering if anyone had any information on how to find the book
"Jewish Emigration >from Wurtemburg 1848-1855". It is a source I have
found on a popular subscription site, which includes the following
information: Pub. American Jewish Historical Soc. Vol. 41:3 (March
1952), pp. 253-268 App. 1.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jewish emigration book #general

Ron Schorr
 

I don't know where you live but the OCLC WorldCat lists copies in The
New York Public Library, the Association of Research Libraries in
Washington DC, and Hebrew Union College in Cincinnati OH.
But you will have to look the book up under the spelling Wurttemberg.
I'm sure any reference librarian can find the listing.

You also might look for a book titled the Wuerttemberg Emigration Index,
by Trudy Schenk and Ruth Froelke. It was published by ancestry.com and
is found in many libraries. Much, if not all of its contents are on the
Ancestry.com website (your library may subscribe)

Good luck

---
"Judy Landauer" <geniegal@...> wrote

I was wondering if anyone had any information on how to find the book
"Jewish Emigration >from Wurtemburg 1848-1855". It is a source I have
found on a popular subscription site, which includes the following
information: Pub. American Jewish Historical Soc. Vol. 41:3 (March
1952), pp. 253-268 App. 1.


Radauti, Bucovina, List of the jews and non-jews who required passport to travel abroud (1920-1931) #general

Felicia Varza <claudiadingermania@...>
 

Hello,

There is a list with all the persons (jews - most of
them - and non jews) who reequired passport in Radauti
(Radauti county on that time, Bucovina, NE Romania) to
be able to travel abroud. Along the names there are
some very valuable information for draw up the family
tree or to draw up a portrait of the person.Also they
indicated the place where they wanted to go for a
while or for ever.
Who is interested to find your ancestor on this list
please contact me and I will check the list for you.

Best wishes,
Claudia Friedlander
Hamburg, Germany


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Radauti, Bucovina, List of the jews and non-jews who required passport to travel abroud (1920-1931) #general

Felicia Varza <claudiadingermania@...>
 

Hello,

There is a list with all the persons (jews - most of
them - and non jews) who reequired passport in Radauti
(Radauti county on that time, Bucovina, NE Romania) to
be able to travel abroud. Along the names there are
some very valuable information for draw up the family
tree or to draw up a portrait of the person.Also they
indicated the place where they wanted to go for a
while or for ever.
Who is interested to find your ancestor on this list
please contact me and I will check the list for you.

Best wishes,
Claudia Friedlander
Hamburg, Germany


Re: cemeteries in or near Kraisk/Kraysk, Vilna, Russia #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Liz Miller wrote

I am now certain that my ggrandparents lived in the shtetl of
Kraisk/Kraysk,Vilna, Russia. They were Itzchack & Rachel JACOBS
RUDERMAN. If they also died in Kraisk/Kraysk certainly before
1910, where would they most likely have been buried? Did
Kraisk/Kraysk have its own cemetery (under 700 Jews in 1897)?
Might they be buried in Dolginovo, which is only 9 miles away or
some other place?
http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/e-europe/belarus.html

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: cemeteries in or near Kraisk/Kraysk, Vilna, Russia #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Liz Miller wrote

I am now certain that my ggrandparents lived in the shtetl of
Kraisk/Kraysk,Vilna, Russia. They were Itzchack & Rachel JACOBS
RUDERMAN. If they also died in Kraisk/Kraysk certainly before
1910, where would they most likely have been buried? Did
Kraisk/Kraysk have its own cemetery (under 700 Jews in 1897)?
Might they be buried in Dolginovo, which is only 9 miles away or
some other place?
http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/e-europe/belarus.html

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor


Zawada Poland #general

Avigdor Ben-Dov <einglishmeister@...>
 

Hello, fellow genners,
This is a quick query: I am searching for survivors or
others >from Zawada Poland. Anyone with links there or
who might know something about the place? Zawada is at
5311-2307 about 14km >from Tykocin and between Lomza
and Bialystok (about 50km each way). I can't believe
there aren't others who knew of the town or whose
ancestors came >from there, but it has been years and I
have not been aware of others relating to this town.
I have a hand-drawn map of the Jewish section of town
listing our neighbors who lived there with my family
before about 1930. Unfortunately, there are few
surnames given.
The list, in counterclockwise order according to the
location of their dwellings or shops around a town
plaza is as follows:

Chatskel, Beryl and Sora Belah (candy shop);
Moishe (Moshe) (Grocery store);
Ziskind, Leib (Dry goods);
Moishe (Moshe) (Inkeeper-tavern);
Chaim the tailor;
Noach the clothes dyer;
Shmulke (Shmuel) the peddlar;
Yisroel the bricklayer;
Yosef Velvel the grocer;
Mendel the butcher;
Chaim Shlomo the bricklayer;
Velvel the shoemaker;
Yudel the miller;
Chaim the shoemaker;
Benyamin the baker;
Avrumke (Avraham) the shoemaker;
Rutkiewicz, Berko (Beryl) the blacksmith.

Avigdor Ben-Dov
RUTKIEWICZ, SUSMAN (SIEGEL), NURZYCZ, SOLARZ,
ROTH, MARKUS, ROSENFELD, MAURER, FINKELSTEIN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Zawada Poland #general

Avigdor Ben-Dov <einglishmeister@...>
 

Hello, fellow genners,
This is a quick query: I am searching for survivors or
others >from Zawada Poland. Anyone with links there or
who might know something about the place? Zawada is at
5311-2307 about 14km >from Tykocin and between Lomza
and Bialystok (about 50km each way). I can't believe
there aren't others who knew of the town or whose
ancestors came >from there, but it has been years and I
have not been aware of others relating to this town.
I have a hand-drawn map of the Jewish section of town
listing our neighbors who lived there with my family
before about 1930. Unfortunately, there are few
surnames given.
The list, in counterclockwise order according to the
location of their dwellings or shops around a town
plaza is as follows:

Chatskel, Beryl and Sora Belah (candy shop);
Moishe (Moshe) (Grocery store);
Ziskind, Leib (Dry goods);
Moishe (Moshe) (Inkeeper-tavern);
Chaim the tailor;
Noach the clothes dyer;
Shmulke (Shmuel) the peddlar;
Yisroel the bricklayer;
Yosef Velvel the grocer;
Mendel the butcher;
Chaim Shlomo the bricklayer;
Velvel the shoemaker;
Yudel the miller;
Chaim the shoemaker;
Benyamin the baker;
Avrumke (Avraham) the shoemaker;
Rutkiewicz, Berko (Beryl) the blacksmith.

Avigdor Ben-Dov
RUTKIEWICZ, SUSMAN (SIEGEL), NURZYCZ, SOLARZ,
ROTH, MARKUS, ROSENFELD, MAURER, FINKELSTEIN


Samuel, surname WOLITZSKY/NATHAN -- please help #general

Kirstie Pickles
 

Hi there,

I have now found out lots about my great great
grandmother Kate Nabarro and her family. I am now
looking for my great great grandfather, the
information I currently have is below....

1. Children of Samuel

Jacob WOLITZSKY, born Shoreditch, 6 October 1906.
Father Sam Nathan Wolitzsky, cap maker

Hilda Wolitzsky Nathan, born West Ham, 15 December
1908, father Samuel Wolitzsky Nathan, cap maker.


2. Samuels marriage

I cannot find a record of Samuels marriage and believe
he didn't marry Kate Nabarro who is mother of his
children.

I have ckeced under various forms of the name.

3. Death

I cannot find a death that corresponds with Samuel,
but on Kate Nabarros marriage certificate she is widow
of Sydney Nabarro. You can discount the Nabarro, this
was an error, and the person registering Kates death
assumed her married name was Nabarro, (which is wasnt)
and therefore put her husband as NABARRO.

Information I already have, to save replication:

Census- Samuel Wolitzsky, Cap Maker, living in Hackney
with wife Hannah, and daughter Leah. He is listed as
being >from Russian Poland.

Marriage- Hannah Goschowsky and Samuel Wolitzsky,
1893. Hannah father Hyman Lewis GOSCHOWSKY was a cap
maker and went bankrupt.

Death- 1819, Jewish Chronicle, Samuel Wolitzsky,
husband of Hannah, only daughter Leah.

Marriage- Of Samuels daughter Hilda in 1930. Hildas
father is listed a Samuel NATHAN, Cap Maker Deceased.

I cannot work out where the WOLITZSKY comes from:
there is one Samuel Wolitzsky (vairous
spellings Volski,Woltsky etc etc) and lots of Samuel
Nathans, but the wolitzsky must be significant??

Census- 1891- Samuel Wolski, Cap Maker, living in
Whitechapel, with Mother Paulina who is a widow, and
children Simon. Leah, Davis and Jacob (not my jacob).
This is a different samuel >from the one listed above
in the 1901 census.

Census- 1881- Head Jacob Volitsky, Stick Maker, wife
Jane and children Samuel, Symon, Leah, all from
Russian Poland except Leah.

Possible birth- Samuel Sidney Nathan, this could tie
into the death cert of Kate Nabarro naming husband as
Sydney...but samuel being nathan on other records???

Points to think about:

The 1881 census seems possible as Samuels father is
Jacob, and Samuel named his sone Jacob b1906.

I have been told my Great Grandma (samuels daughter)
was of Polish origins and her mother was not, she was
sephardi, so it makes sense that Samuels family are
jewish.

I think it is unlikely that the 1891 mentioned above
is my samuel, as in this census he already has several
children, one called jacob...so would he then have
another son and call him jacob in 1906...unless the
first one died???

I just dont know how to find samuel...can anyone
help....

Thank you

Kirstie Pickles


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Samuel, surname WOLITZSKY/NATHAN -- please help #general

Kirstie Pickles
 

Hi there,

I have now found out lots about my great great
grandmother Kate Nabarro and her family. I am now
looking for my great great grandfather, the
information I currently have is below....

1. Children of Samuel

Jacob WOLITZSKY, born Shoreditch, 6 October 1906.
Father Sam Nathan Wolitzsky, cap maker

Hilda Wolitzsky Nathan, born West Ham, 15 December
1908, father Samuel Wolitzsky Nathan, cap maker.


2. Samuels marriage

I cannot find a record of Samuels marriage and believe
he didn't marry Kate Nabarro who is mother of his
children.

I have ckeced under various forms of the name.

3. Death

I cannot find a death that corresponds with Samuel,
but on Kate Nabarros marriage certificate she is widow
of Sydney Nabarro. You can discount the Nabarro, this
was an error, and the person registering Kates death
assumed her married name was Nabarro, (which is wasnt)
and therefore put her husband as NABARRO.

Information I already have, to save replication:

Census- Samuel Wolitzsky, Cap Maker, living in Hackney
with wife Hannah, and daughter Leah. He is listed as
being >from Russian Poland.

Marriage- Hannah Goschowsky and Samuel Wolitzsky,
1893. Hannah father Hyman Lewis GOSCHOWSKY was a cap
maker and went bankrupt.

Death- 1819, Jewish Chronicle, Samuel Wolitzsky,
husband of Hannah, only daughter Leah.

Marriage- Of Samuels daughter Hilda in 1930. Hildas
father is listed a Samuel NATHAN, Cap Maker Deceased.

I cannot work out where the WOLITZSKY comes from:
there is one Samuel Wolitzsky (vairous
spellings Volski,Woltsky etc etc) and lots of Samuel
Nathans, but the wolitzsky must be significant??

Census- 1891- Samuel Wolski, Cap Maker, living in
Whitechapel, with Mother Paulina who is a widow, and
children Simon. Leah, Davis and Jacob (not my jacob).
This is a different samuel >from the one listed above
in the 1901 census.

Census- 1881- Head Jacob Volitsky, Stick Maker, wife
Jane and children Samuel, Symon, Leah, all from
Russian Poland except Leah.

Possible birth- Samuel Sidney Nathan, this could tie
into the death cert of Kate Nabarro naming husband as
Sydney...but samuel being nathan on other records???

Points to think about:

The 1881 census seems possible as Samuels father is
Jacob, and Samuel named his sone Jacob b1906.

I have been told my Great Grandma (samuels daughter)
was of Polish origins and her mother was not, she was
sephardi, so it makes sense that Samuels family are
jewish.

I think it is unlikely that the 1891 mentioned above
is my samuel, as in this census he already has several
children, one called jacob...so would he then have
another son and call him jacob in 1906...unless the
first one died???

I just dont know how to find samuel...can anyone
help....

Thank you

Kirstie Pickles