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Mt. Zion Cemetery database, revisited #lodz #poland

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

Greetings all,

It seems that the data entered into the Mt. Zion searchable database was
taken >from the computer they use in the office to locate burials. There were
periods of time (could have been decades ago) when burials were being
inputted into their computers and for some unknown reason (perhaps haste)
were inputted without the full dates of death (please note that these dates
are actually burial dates--they know they have to change this, but remember
the site just went up the other day and the kinks need to be worked out).
The person at the time who inputted the burial information used the number 1
to indicate the day of death. Little by little, the cemetery will be
inputting the correct days of death/burial, so be patient. Also the "Block"
field does no good for now. It really should be Gate No., as we really know
how to locate a society by path and gate numbers. Hopefully, this will be
corrected soon too. Please give them time to work out the kinks. Ideally,
one should be able to place the correct path number and gate number into the
search fields. This will hopefully happen soon, but realize all this will
not happen overnight.

Also, if you happen to notice that the given name or surname in their
database is different than what you know it to be, they will only be able to
change it if you show them a copy of their death certificate and it
indicates the name you want it changed to. They normally check three of
their in-office sources to see if there is a discrepancy in the names, but
if in all three sources the name is the same as what's already in their
database, it stays that way until they see the death certificate.

Rest assured that I will keep you up-to-date on any changes that might occur
with their database, so stay tuned. The people in the Mt. Zion cemetery
office are very nice and helpful and will do whatever they can to help all
of us.

By the way, Mt. Zion still will take gravestone photos for a fee. You can
see their policy on my cemetery directory page at
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/cp-directory.htm . Note that on the same page
I now have contact info for the Silver Lake and Mt. Richmond Cemeteries
which are under the aegis of the Hebrew Free Burial Association.

Regards,
Steve Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Mt. Zion Cemetery database, revisited #lodz #poland

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

Greetings all,

It seems that the data entered into the Mt. Zion searchable database was
taken >from the computer they use in the office to locate burials. There were
periods of time (could have been decades ago) when burials were being
inputted into their computers and for some unknown reason (perhaps haste)
were inputted without the full dates of death (please note that these dates
are actually burial dates--they know they have to change this, but remember
the site just went up the other day and the kinks need to be worked out).
The person at the time who inputted the burial information used the number 1
to indicate the day of death. Little by little, the cemetery will be
inputting the correct days of death/burial, so be patient. Also the "Block"
field does no good for now. It really should be Gate No., as we really know
how to locate a society by path and gate numbers. Hopefully, this will be
corrected soon too. Please give them time to work out the kinks. Ideally,
one should be able to place the correct path number and gate number into the
search fields. This will hopefully happen soon, but realize all this will
not happen overnight.

Also, if you happen to notice that the given name or surname in their
database is different than what you know it to be, they will only be able to
change it if you show them a copy of their death certificate and it
indicates the name you want it changed to. They normally check three of
their in-office sources to see if there is a discrepancy in the names, but
if in all three sources the name is the same as what's already in their
database, it stays that way until they see the death certificate.

Rest assured that I will keep you up-to-date on any changes that might occur
with their database, so stay tuned. The people in the Mt. Zion cemetery
office are very nice and helpful and will do whatever they can to help all
of us.

By the way, Mt. Zion still will take gravestone photos for a fee. You can
see their policy on my cemetery directory page at
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/cp-directory.htm . Note that on the same page
I now have contact info for the Silver Lake and Mt. Richmond Cemeteries
which are under the aegis of the Hebrew Free Burial Association.

Regards,
Steve Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com


Gaon of Zelechow #rabbinic

Claire Sztern <claire.sztern@...>
 

Shalom,

Does anybody know who was called the "Gaon of Zelechow" in Poland?

Thank you very much.
Claire Sztern-Jarach
Paris, France


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Gaon of Zelechow #rabbinic

Claire Sztern <claire.sztern@...>
 

Shalom,

Does anybody know who was called the "Gaon of Zelechow" in Poland?

Thank you very much.
Claire Sztern-Jarach
Paris, France


Mt. Zion burial dates #poland

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 

I have two relatives buried at Mt. Zion (NY) whose death certificates I
possess. One death date is listed as the first of the month while actual
date of death was the 19th of that month. The other death date, however,
lists as date of death the date of interment.

I have one relative buried at Mt. Hebron (NY) whose death date in the
cemetery records corresponds to the date on his matzeva.

In working with the cemetery records for Mt. Carmel Cemetery in Los
Angeles, I have found that the date listed in their records is routinely
the date of interment.

All the above suggests that it is necessary to verify date of death
rather than taking for granted that dates listed in cemetery records are
accurate.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA


JRI Poland #Poland Mt. Zion burial dates #poland

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 

I have two relatives buried at Mt. Zion (NY) whose death certificates I
possess. One death date is listed as the first of the month while actual
date of death was the 19th of that month. The other death date, however,
lists as date of death the date of interment.

I have one relative buried at Mt. Hebron (NY) whose death date in the
cemetery records corresponds to the date on his matzeva.

In working with the cemetery records for Mt. Carmel Cemetery in Los
Angeles, I have found that the date listed in their records is routinely
the date of interment.

All the above suggests that it is necessary to verify date of death
rather than taking for granted that dates listed in cemetery records are
accurate.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA


Translation from Yiddish. #lithuania

עמירה משיח <amira_m@...>
 

Shalom -

I'm asking for your help in translating the marriage invite of Kroovand &
Shapira.

It's a marriage invite written in Yiddish block letters, above it it's
written in handwriting in Yiddish. I'm asking for translation of all of what
is written there [block letter and handwriting].

Direct link:
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8091


http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/index.asp VM 8091 "Translation -
Yiddish".

Please respond directly to me - amira_m@masaryk.org.il

Thank you,
Amira Mashiah, Israel.
Searching for: Kruvand, Videlevsky, Gerskovic, Antopitzky.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Translation from Yiddish. #lithuania

עמירה משיח <amira_m@...>
 

Shalom -

I'm asking for your help in translating the marriage invite of Kroovand &
Shapira.

It's a marriage invite written in Yiddish block letters, above it it's
written in handwriting in Yiddish. I'm asking for translation of all of what
is written there [block letter and handwriting].

Direct link:
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8091


http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/index.asp VM 8091 "Translation -
Yiddish".

Please respond directly to me - amira_m@masaryk.org.il

Thank you,
Amira Mashiah, Israel.
Searching for: Kruvand, Videlevsky, Gerskovic, Antopitzky.


New Synagogue #unitedkingdom

malcolm katz <malkikatz9361@...>
 

Does anyone know where i can buy a transcribed CD-ROM
of the New Synagogue marriage registers 1791-1823
there is a listing for this,But i cant find it for
sale.
Many thanks
Malcolm Katz





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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom New Synagogue #unitedkingdom

malcolm katz <malkikatz9361@...>
 

Does anyone know where i can buy a transcribed CD-ROM
of the New Synagogue marriage registers 1791-1823
there is a listing for this,But i cant find it for
sale.
Many thanks
Malcolm Katz





___________________________________________________________
Copy addresses and emails >from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/trueswitch2.html


Mt. Zion burial dates #belarus

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 



I have checked several known decedents in this database. Be advised that listed dates of death are often incorrect, listing the first of the month as death date.
--
Bernard Kouchel
I have two relatives buried at Mt. Zion (NY) whose death certificates I
possess. Bernard Kouchel is quite right, as one death date is listed as
the first of the month while actual date of death was the 19th of that
month. The other death date, however, lists as date of death the date of
interment.

I have one relative buried at Mt. Hebron (NY) whose death date in the
cemetery records corresponds to the date on his matzeva.

In working with the cemetery records for Mt. Carmel Cemetery in Los
Angeles, I have found that the date listed in their records is routinely
the date of interment.

All the above suggests that it is necessary to verify date of death
rather than taking for granted that dates listed in cemetery records are
accurate.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA


Rabbi Eli WERTMAN #rabbinic

Lawrence <theslice@...>
 

Hi all ravsigers.

I am searching for information regarding a Polish Rabbi Named Eli
WERTMAN. Originally Lublin and then moved to Israel after the war.

Any information would greatly help.
thanks.

Lawrence Litwin

Searching:

Leon KHUN, Slovakia SULEM, Wilhelm, Slovakia, Margit FOGEL, Romania,
Abram Simcha ENGELSBERG, Lublin Poland, Harrold LITWIN Belarussia.

Currently living in
Montreal Quebec Canada.
happy Canada to all Canadian Ravsiggers


Belarus SIG #Belarus Mt. Zion burial dates #belarus

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 



I have checked several known decedents in this database. Be advised that listed dates of death are often incorrect, listing the first of the month as death date.
--
Bernard Kouchel
I have two relatives buried at Mt. Zion (NY) whose death certificates I
possess. Bernard Kouchel is quite right, as one death date is listed as
the first of the month while actual date of death was the 19th of that
month. The other death date, however, lists as date of death the date of
interment.

I have one relative buried at Mt. Hebron (NY) whose death date in the
cemetery records corresponds to the date on his matzeva.

In working with the cemetery records for Mt. Carmel Cemetery in Los
Angeles, I have found that the date listed in their records is routinely
the date of interment.

All the above suggests that it is necessary to verify date of death
rather than taking for granted that dates listed in cemetery records are
accurate.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Rabbi Eli WERTMAN #rabbinic

Lawrence <theslice@...>
 

Hi all ravsigers.

I am searching for information regarding a Polish Rabbi Named Eli
WERTMAN. Originally Lublin and then moved to Israel after the war.

Any information would greatly help.
thanks.

Lawrence Litwin

Searching:

Leon KHUN, Slovakia SULEM, Wilhelm, Slovakia, Margit FOGEL, Romania,
Abram Simcha ENGELSBERG, Lublin Poland, Harrold LITWIN Belarussia.

Currently living in
Montreal Quebec Canada.
happy Canada to all Canadian Ravsiggers


Mt. Zion Cemetery database #belarus

Marlene Bishow
 

On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, <gfloam@netrax.net> wrote

Thank you for this information! Using the database, I found the
gravesites
of my grandmother, her brother and his wife. The latter two were in a
plot
called "Slutzker". All I had ever heard was that my grandparents were
from
"Minsk Gubernia". Where was Slutzk in relation to Minsk? My grandmother
was in a plot called "Epstein". Does anyone know what this might refer
to?

Hi Judy:

What a great addition the Mt. Zion website is!

Six of my great grandparents are buried in Mt. Zion. For one great
grandmother, the burial society is all that I know about her, but I did find
other society members with her unusual last name, so I am hopeful. At least
it is a place to start.

Just a word of advice regarding the burial society. You should not assume
that your ancestors were >from Slutzk, just because they were buried in that
plot. It could be that they were >from there, but not necessarily so. You
will need to find additional confirmation, but this is a start. You might
want to check out the landsmanshaft files at YIVO to see if there is a
history on either or both societies. Look for members of your family as
founders or officers of the society and check out the history of the
society, if that information is available. If you are going to the
conference in NYC, that would be a good place for a side trip.

I would also suggest that you look for a marriage license for the brother
and his wife - hopefully they were married in NYC, so again, this is a good
thing to do at the conference, but you might also check out the groom's
index, which you can access >from Steve Morse's site. Marriage licesnse data
might tell you more about where they were from.

Good luck!
Marlene Bishow
President
Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington


records for people leaving America to return to Europe? #belarus

BatSheva Goldstein <batsheva@...>
 

Are there records of people leaving America returning to Europe?
I searched Ellis Island and found 2 very plausible matches for my
great-great grandfather. They both have very close permutations of both his
first and last name, the correct town in Poland, the correct destination in
America, same birthdate, one has his wife's name, one has his son's name.

I have a slight hunch that he entered NY by himself, returned to Europe, and
re-entered with his son nearly 12 years later.

Are there any databases that I can search of records of people leaving
America to confirm my suspicions?

Anyone have any other suggestions as to how I can pick the correct ancestor?
Thanks in advance,
BatSheva Goldstein
Efrat, Israel

Researching: FAIVESHEVITZ/FAJBISZEWICZ (later changed to FISHER)from
Kartuz-Bereza


Mt. Zion Cemetery database, revisited #galicia

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

Greetings all,

It seems that the data entered into the Mt. Zion searchable database was
taken >from the computer they use in the office to locate burials. There were
periods of time (could have been decades ago) when burials were being
inputted into their computers and for some unknown reason (perhaps haste)
were inputted without the full dates of death (please note that these dates
are actually burial dates--they know they have to change this, but remember
the site just went up the other day and the kinks need to be worked out).
The person at the time who inputted the burial information used the number 1
to indicate the day of death. Little by little, the cemetery will be
inputting the correct days of death/burial, so be patient. Also the "Block"
field does no good for now. It really should be Gate No., as we really know
how to locate a society by path and gate numbers. Hopefully, this will be
corrected soon too. Please give them time to work out the kinks. Ideally,
one should be able to place the correct path number and gate number into the
search fields. This will hopefully happen soon, but realize all this will
not happen overnight.

Also, if you happen to notice that the given name or surname in their
database is different than what you know it to be, they will only be able to
change it if you show them a copy of their death certificate and it
indicates the name you want it changed to. They normally check three of
their in-office sources to see if there is a discrepancy in the names, but
if in all three sources the name is the same as what's already in their
database, it stays that way until they see the death certificate.

Rest assured that I will keep you up-to-date on any changes that might occur
with their database, so stay tuned. The people in the Mt. Zion cemetery
office are very nice and helpful and will do whatever they can to help all
of us.

By the way, Mt. Zion still will take gravestone photos for a fee. You can
see their policy on my cemetery directory page at
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/cp-directory.htm . Note that on the same page
I now have contact info for the Silver Lake and Mt. Richmond Cemeteries
which are under the aegis of the Hebrew Free Burial Association.

Regards,
Steve Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus Mt. Zion Cemetery database #belarus

Marlene Bishow
 

On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, <gfloam@netrax.net> wrote

Thank you for this information! Using the database, I found the
gravesites
of my grandmother, her brother and his wife. The latter two were in a
plot
called "Slutzker". All I had ever heard was that my grandparents were
from
"Minsk Gubernia". Where was Slutzk in relation to Minsk? My grandmother
was in a plot called "Epstein". Does anyone know what this might refer
to?

Hi Judy:

What a great addition the Mt. Zion website is!

Six of my great grandparents are buried in Mt. Zion. For one great
grandmother, the burial society is all that I know about her, but I did find
other society members with her unusual last name, so I am hopeful. At least
it is a place to start.

Just a word of advice regarding the burial society. You should not assume
that your ancestors were >from Slutzk, just because they were buried in that
plot. It could be that they were >from there, but not necessarily so. You
will need to find additional confirmation, but this is a start. You might
want to check out the landsmanshaft files at YIVO to see if there is a
history on either or both societies. Look for members of your family as
founders or officers of the society and check out the history of the
society, if that information is available. If you are going to the
conference in NYC, that would be a good place for a side trip.

I would also suggest that you look for a marriage license for the brother
and his wife - hopefully they were married in NYC, so again, this is a good
thing to do at the conference, but you might also check out the groom's
index, which you can access >from Steve Morse's site. Marriage licesnse data
might tell you more about where they were from.

Good luck!
Marlene Bishow
President
Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington


Belarus SIG #Belarus records for people leaving America to return to Europe? #belarus

BatSheva Goldstein <batsheva@...>
 

Are there records of people leaving America returning to Europe?
I searched Ellis Island and found 2 very plausible matches for my
great-great grandfather. They both have very close permutations of both his
first and last name, the correct town in Poland, the correct destination in
America, same birthdate, one has his wife's name, one has his son's name.

I have a slight hunch that he entered NY by himself, returned to Europe, and
re-entered with his son nearly 12 years later.

Are there any databases that I can search of records of people leaving
America to confirm my suspicions?

Anyone have any other suggestions as to how I can pick the correct ancestor?
Thanks in advance,
BatSheva Goldstein
Efrat, Israel

Researching: FAIVESHEVITZ/FAJBISZEWICZ (later changed to FISHER)from
Kartuz-Bereza


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Mt. Zion Cemetery database, revisited #galicia

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

Greetings all,

It seems that the data entered into the Mt. Zion searchable database was
taken >from the computer they use in the office to locate burials. There were
periods of time (could have been decades ago) when burials were being
inputted into their computers and for some unknown reason (perhaps haste)
were inputted without the full dates of death (please note that these dates
are actually burial dates--they know they have to change this, but remember
the site just went up the other day and the kinks need to be worked out).
The person at the time who inputted the burial information used the number 1
to indicate the day of death. Little by little, the cemetery will be
inputting the correct days of death/burial, so be patient. Also the "Block"
field does no good for now. It really should be Gate No., as we really know
how to locate a society by path and gate numbers. Hopefully, this will be
corrected soon too. Please give them time to work out the kinks. Ideally,
one should be able to place the correct path number and gate number into the
search fields. This will hopefully happen soon, but realize all this will
not happen overnight.

Also, if you happen to notice that the given name or surname in their
database is different than what you know it to be, they will only be able to
change it if you show them a copy of their death certificate and it
indicates the name you want it changed to. They normally check three of
their in-office sources to see if there is a discrepancy in the names, but
if in all three sources the name is the same as what's already in their
database, it stays that way until they see the death certificate.

Rest assured that I will keep you up-to-date on any changes that might occur
with their database, so stay tuned. The people in the Mt. Zion cemetery
office are very nice and helpful and will do whatever they can to help all
of us.

By the way, Mt. Zion still will take gravestone photos for a fee. You can
see their policy on my cemetery directory page at
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/cp-directory.htm . Note that on the same page
I now have contact info for the Silver Lake and Mt. Richmond Cemeteries
which are under the aegis of the Hebrew Free Burial Association.

Regards,
Steve Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com