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Re: Cannot find town of origin from shtetl seeker #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Helene Audrey Bergman wrote
Trying to construct tree for new fiance, but can't figure out where they are from.
Manifests consistently say "Pasing" but I can't figure out what that "really" is.
Some are >from Stuttgart, so I would assume Germany. Any ideas?
Hi,

Pasing is Munich, Germany town district, adjacent to the west side of the district
Laim In some of the 52 scanned manifests, one can actualkly see combination:
Pasing, Munich

--
Regards,
Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Cannot find town of origin from shtetl seeker #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Helene Audrey Bergman wrote
Trying to construct tree for new fiance, but can't figure out where they are from.
Manifests consistently say "Pasing" but I can't figure out what that "really" is.
Some are >from Stuttgart, so I would assume Germany. Any ideas?
Hi,

Pasing is Munich, Germany town district, adjacent to the west side of the district
Laim In some of the 52 scanned manifests, one can actualkly see combination:
Pasing, Munich

--
Regards,
Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor


Re: KONIGSHOFER #general

Joachim Mugdan
 

Celia Male wrote:
I have now located two Konigshof in Bohemia - one in the Berauner
Kreis - ... and the other in the Koniggratzer Kreis ...
It is likely that at least one of the KONIGSHOFER families came >from Konigshofen
(now merged with Lauda), 30 km SW of Wurzburg. When family names are derived >from
place names in -en, the -en is often dropped, cf. Kissingen -> KISSINGER (not
Kissingener). Until the early 20th century, Konigshofen had a small Jewish
community with a synagogue. I know a Mr. Konighofer who grew up in Wurzburg,
emigrated to Denmark and now lives in Switzerland. Please contact me privately if
you are interested in getting in touch with him.
--
Joachim Mugdan <mugdan@uni-muenster.de>
Basel, Switzerland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: KONIGSHOFER #general

Joachim Mugdan
 

Celia Male wrote:
I have now located two Konigshof in Bohemia - one in the Berauner
Kreis - ... and the other in the Koniggratzer Kreis ...
It is likely that at least one of the KONIGSHOFER families came >from Konigshofen
(now merged with Lauda), 30 km SW of Wurzburg. When family names are derived >from
place names in -en, the -en is often dropped, cf. Kissingen -> KISSINGER (not
Kissingener). Until the early 20th century, Konigshofen had a small Jewish
community with a synagogue. I know a Mr. Konighofer who grew up in Wurzburg,
emigrated to Denmark and now lives in Switzerland. Please contact me privately if
you are interested in getting in touch with him.
--
Joachim Mugdan <mugdan@uni-muenster.de>
Basel, Switzerland


Re: official vital records transcriptions #austria-czech

Irene Newhouse
 

When you get or see a record that's an official
transcription >from a vital records ledger, it's not a
safe assumption that the transcriber neglected
information valuable to you. In former times, the
rules for the information to be included in vital
records was either vague or ignored. I vividly recall
an entry in the deaths ledger for Tarnowitz, Silesia,
in the 1850s, which translates to something like,
"Mrs. Roth died today & a burial permit was issued" &
then it was signed by the clerk. There was a date at
the top of the entry, but nothing more!! Which Mrs.
Roth, for heavens' sake? The place was small, but
there was more than one Roth family.

Irene Newhouse
Kihei HI 96753


WAJSENBERG #general

mark
 

Dear Genners.
I am searching WAJSENBERG >from Zelechow, Warsaw. BRANDWAJ, KRIFKE >from Ostrog,
ZDOLBUNOW. BEJZMAN >from Novograd Volhynski, SHEVELEV >from Belarus.
Wajsenberg Mark
Israel
mark306@bezeqint.net

MODERATOR NOTE: 1) Please use upper case letters for the complete last names in
searches - this allows fellow Genners to quickly identify names (and to help).
2) When asking for help please indicate where you have searched already. 3)Have you
listed your names and looked for others searching for these names at the JewishGen
Family Finder (JGFF)? If you have not already done so, please log onto
www.jewishgen.org/jgff and using the enter/modify procedure enter and register
all the towns and surnames of interest to your family research. As you learn about
more names and places of origin, they can always be added, but only **you** can
keep your own listings up to date.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech re: official vital records transcriptions #austria-czech

Irene Newhouse
 

When you get or see a record that's an official
transcription >from a vital records ledger, it's not a
safe assumption that the transcriber neglected
information valuable to you. In former times, the
rules for the information to be included in vital
records was either vague or ignored. I vividly recall
an entry in the deaths ledger for Tarnowitz, Silesia,
in the 1850s, which translates to something like,
"Mrs. Roth died today & a burial permit was issued" &
then it was signed by the clerk. There was a date at
the top of the entry, but nothing more!! Which Mrs.
Roth, for heavens' sake? The place was small, but
there was more than one Roth family.

Irene Newhouse
Kihei HI 96753


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WAJSENBERG #general

mark
 

Dear Genners.
I am searching WAJSENBERG >from Zelechow, Warsaw. BRANDWAJ, KRIFKE >from Ostrog,
ZDOLBUNOW. BEJZMAN >from Novograd Volhynski, SHEVELEV >from Belarus.
Wajsenberg Mark
Israel
mark306@bezeqint.net

MODERATOR NOTE: 1) Please use upper case letters for the complete last names in
searches - this allows fellow Genners to quickly identify names (and to help).
2) When asking for help please indicate where you have searched already. 3)Have you
listed your names and looked for others searching for these names at the JewishGen
Family Finder (JGFF)? If you have not already done so, please log onto
www.jewishgen.org/jgff and using the enter/modify procedure enter and register
all the towns and surnames of interest to your family research. As you learn about
more names and places of origin, they can always be added, but only **you** can
keep your own listings up to date.


Neu Bistritz/Nova Bystrice Cemetery, Czech Republic - photographs and genealogy links #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

In 2000 & 2001 [before I was associated with the Austria-Czech SIG!] Michael
Bernet posted two queries to the group on the name PODZAHRADSKY. Likewise,
Hanus Grab was looking for someone of that name in 2002 [see Jewishgen SIG
message archives]. I had never heard of the name till two days ago when Rosanne
Leeson kindly sent me ten photographs with no annotations, taken last week by a
friend on a trip through Southern Bohemia. They were of the little rural Jewish
cemetery in Neu Bistritz, Tabor Kreis, Bohemia, Czech Republic. I wondered what
to do with them. After two days of intensive effort, I have made an album with
research notes and links, hopefully of use to genealogists. I have no
associations with Neu Bistritz and have never been there, but as a result of
this work there have been surprising findings.

You will see in my notes that the PODZAHRADSKY family were Familiants in the
Tabor Kreis [ie they were there in the 1700s] and had early distilling
concessions in the area. Michael tells us that his great-uncle Karl
PODZAHRADSKY was married to his grandfather's sister Sarah BERNET. Karl was
probably in the hops business and moved to Nurnberg, Bavaria [a great brewing
city]. This "Bohemian-Bavarian hops migration" was not uncommon - I have come
across it before, indeed we have written about it on the SIG.

Please see: http://www.rijo.homepage.t-online.de/pdf/EN_NU_JU_jtn.pdf
and you will read about the tragic holocaust victim Selma PODZAHRADSKY [dob 27
June 1883] of Nurnberg who must be part of the Michael's Bohemian-Bavarian
family. We remember her here today.

Hanus Grab in 2002 asked about Franziska DUBSKY born in 1846, daughter of
Gabriel DUBSKY and Katharina, nee PODZAHRADSKY. Both names are found in this
cemetery. I wonder if Hanus and Michael are now linked in an obscure way?

There is a definite LOWENSTAMM link to our Austria-Czech Sigger
Jean Lowenstamm, whose family were famous stonemasons in Trebitsch, Moravia.
And could the many PACHNER buried here be related to Bob Pachner, who posted a
message on the General Discussion Group last week looking for his close
relative "Mark" born 1 March 1955?

What a plethora of potential links >from ten photographs in one small Bohemian
cemetery. I am agog! I hope all of you, who are not connected, will
nevertheless find the cemetery photographs and notes interesting. Please click
one "Detail" under the main title heading, next to "Thumbnails" to see all the
notes. Some are quite extensive. Please scroll down. Here is the link to the
cemetery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cam37/sets/72157600985799768

I have also just seen that the notes can be read when you have a slideshow but
you will have to be quick! Please click on each picture and an "I" will appear
- click on the "I" and the text appears like magic superimposed on the picture.
You can scroll down on the right and read it, if you choose a slow slideshow.


Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnote: 1793 census of Bohemia: Tabor Kreis, Vol III p 311 has two pedlar
families PODHRASKY Moises - one son Hermann, daughter Rosl; PODZAHRADSKY Jacob
- one son Hermann, daughter Ester; both have their own houses in Tutschap,
Tabor Kreis .

There are no HIRSCHKRON in the census but there are two HIRSCHHORN living in
the same village [Vol 1 p. 41]. There is a single PACHNER {vol V p. 35]; there
is only one ZEILINGER [Tabor Kreis - Vol III p 351] and we can see he has
changed his name >from WEIS to ZEILINGER! Lasar ZEILINGER had three sons Moises,
Salomon and Elias. He dealt in textiles and lived in Markt Altstadt.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Neu Bistritz/Nova Bystrice Cemetery, Czech Republic - photographs and genealogy links #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

In 2000 & 2001 [before I was associated with the Austria-Czech SIG!] Michael
Bernet posted two queries to the group on the name PODZAHRADSKY. Likewise,
Hanus Grab was looking for someone of that name in 2002 [see Jewishgen SIG
message archives]. I had never heard of the name till two days ago when Rosanne
Leeson kindly sent me ten photographs with no annotations, taken last week by a
friend on a trip through Southern Bohemia. They were of the little rural Jewish
cemetery in Neu Bistritz, Tabor Kreis, Bohemia, Czech Republic. I wondered what
to do with them. After two days of intensive effort, I have made an album with
research notes and links, hopefully of use to genealogists. I have no
associations with Neu Bistritz and have never been there, but as a result of
this work there have been surprising findings.

You will see in my notes that the PODZAHRADSKY family were Familiants in the
Tabor Kreis [ie they were there in the 1700s] and had early distilling
concessions in the area. Michael tells us that his great-uncle Karl
PODZAHRADSKY was married to his grandfather's sister Sarah BERNET. Karl was
probably in the hops business and moved to Nurnberg, Bavaria [a great brewing
city]. This "Bohemian-Bavarian hops migration" was not uncommon - I have come
across it before, indeed we have written about it on the SIG.

Please see: http://www.rijo.homepage.t-online.de/pdf/EN_NU_JU_jtn.pdf
and you will read about the tragic holocaust victim Selma PODZAHRADSKY [dob 27
June 1883] of Nurnberg who must be part of the Michael's Bohemian-Bavarian
family. We remember her here today.

Hanus Grab in 2002 asked about Franziska DUBSKY born in 1846, daughter of
Gabriel DUBSKY and Katharina, nee PODZAHRADSKY. Both names are found in this
cemetery. I wonder if Hanus and Michael are now linked in an obscure way?

There is a definite LOWENSTAMM link to our Austria-Czech Sigger
Jean Lowenstamm, whose family were famous stonemasons in Trebitsch, Moravia.
And could the many PACHNER buried here be related to Bob Pachner, who posted a
message on the General Discussion Group last week looking for his close
relative "Mark" born 1 March 1955?

What a plethora of potential links >from ten photographs in one small Bohemian
cemetery. I am agog! I hope all of you, who are not connected, will
nevertheless find the cemetery photographs and notes interesting. Please click
one "Detail" under the main title heading, next to "Thumbnails" to see all the
notes. Some are quite extensive. Please scroll down. Here is the link to the
cemetery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cam37/sets/72157600985799768

I have also just seen that the notes can be read when you have a slideshow but
you will have to be quick! Please click on each picture and an "I" will appear
- click on the "I" and the text appears like magic superimposed on the picture.
You can scroll down on the right and read it, if you choose a slow slideshow.


Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnote: 1793 census of Bohemia: Tabor Kreis, Vol III p 311 has two pedlar
families PODHRASKY Moises - one son Hermann, daughter Rosl; PODZAHRADSKY Jacob
- one son Hermann, daughter Ester; both have their own houses in Tutschap,
Tabor Kreis .

There are no HIRSCHKRON in the census but there are two HIRSCHHORN living in
the same village [Vol 1 p. 41]. There is a single PACHNER {vol V p. 35]; there
is only one ZEILINGER [Tabor Kreis - Vol III p 351] and we can see he has
changed his name >from WEIS to ZEILINGER! Lasar ZEILINGER had three sons Moises,
Salomon and Elias. He dealt in textiles and lived in Markt Altstadt.


* Re: 1907 Austrian gazetteer now online #austria-czech

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Hello,

It is very difficult to find this gazetteer. All I was able to discover is
the "Meyers Orts- und Verkehrs-Lexicon des Deutschen Reichs, 1912-1913",
at address:
http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/
EuropeanGa&CISOPTR=6524&REC=1

Can somebody explain - mentioning the exact link - how to reach the
"Gemeindelexikon der im Reichsrate vertretenen Konigreiche und Laender"

Many thanks
Tom

At a talk for Galitzianers at last week's Jewish genealogy
conference, Brian Lenius, editor of "The Genealogical
Gazetteer of Galicia," mentioned a new online resource that's
of interest to all who are researching the former Austrian
Empire: a digitized version of the "Gemeindelexikon der im
Reichsrate vertretenen Konigreiche und Laender" (Gazetteer of
the Crown Lands and Territories Represented in the Imperial
Council). The multi-volume gazetteer is now available on the
website of Brigham Young University's Harold B. Lee Llbrary.
To view it, go to

<http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/search.php>
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech * Re: 1907 Austrian gazetteer now online #austria-czech

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Hello,

It is very difficult to find this gazetteer. All I was able to discover is
the "Meyers Orts- und Verkehrs-Lexicon des Deutschen Reichs, 1912-1913",
at address:
http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/
EuropeanGa&CISOPTR=6524&REC=1

Can somebody explain - mentioning the exact link - how to reach the
"Gemeindelexikon der im Reichsrate vertretenen Konigreiche und Laender"

Many thanks
Tom

At a talk for Galitzianers at last week's Jewish genealogy
conference, Brian Lenius, editor of "The Genealogical
Gazetteer of Galicia," mentioned a new online resource that's
of interest to all who are researching the former Austrian
Empire: a digitized version of the "Gemeindelexikon der im
Reichsrate vertretenen Konigreiche und Laender" (Gazetteer of
the Crown Lands and Territories Represented in the Imperial
Council). The multi-volume gazetteer is now available on the
website of Brigham Young University's Harold B. Lee Llbrary.
To view it, go to

<http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/search.php>
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


phonebook israel #general

vangheluwe.smietan
 

Hello all

I need hepl to locate and contact by phone Shlomo Limonad or Kharin, living ** Herzl
street, in Ramat Gan or Holon, Israel.

Many thanks


MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen phonebook israel #general

vangheluwe.smietan
 

Hello all

I need hepl to locate and contact by phone Shlomo Limonad or Kharin, living ** Herzl
street, in Ramat Gan or Holon, Israel.

Many thanks


MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Baumgarten - suburb of Vienna #austria-czech

Fritz Neubauer
 

Austria-Czech SIG digest wrote:

I recently replied to Ora Kuris-Baumgarten in Jerusalem who is still searching
for the place/village/town called Baumgarten after which it is suggested the
BAUMGARTEN family is named: " My family's name is BAUMGARTEN. Its origin is in
Moravia (18th-19th cen.).......".
My comment was that it may not be a toponymic name at all and if it was,
Baumgarten may not be in Moravia.

"Baumgarten" is also an area in Vienna that was originally independent
next to Huetteldorf, today it is still traceable in two street names in
the 14th district: "Baumgartenstrasse" and "Baumgartner Hoehe", there is
also a "Baumgartner Friedhof" in the area,

with kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Baumgarten - suburb of Vienna #austria-czech

Fritz Neubauer
 

Austria-Czech SIG digest wrote:

I recently replied to Ora Kuris-Baumgarten in Jerusalem who is still searching
for the place/village/town called Baumgarten after which it is suggested the
BAUMGARTEN family is named: " My family's name is BAUMGARTEN. Its origin is in
Moravia (18th-19th cen.).......".
My comment was that it may not be a toponymic name at all and if it was,
Baumgarten may not be in Moravia.

"Baumgarten" is also an area in Vienna that was originally independent
next to Huetteldorf, today it is still traceable in two street names in
the 14th district: "Baumgartenstrasse" and "Baumgartner Hoehe", there is
also a "Baumgartner Friedhof" in the area,

with kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany


Re: 1907 Austrian gazetteer now online #austria-czech

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

Thanks to Bob Lenk for letting me know that the Bohemia
volume (9) of the Gemeindelexikon is missing >from the BYU
website. The German and Czech versions of the Moravia book
are both Volume 10.

I've emailed the BYU library to ask about the Bohemia book.
I'll pass along their response.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills, New York, USA
genmaven@gmail.com


The multi-volume gazetteer is now available on the
website of Brigham Young University's Harold B. Lee Llbrary.
snip>>


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: 1907 Austrian gazetteer now online #austria-czech

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

Thanks to Bob Lenk for letting me know that the Bohemia
volume (9) of the Gemeindelexikon is missing >from the BYU
website. The German and Czech versions of the Moravia book
are both Volume 10.

I've emailed the BYU library to ask about the Bohemia book.
I'll pass along their response.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills, New York, USA
genmaven@gmail.com


The multi-volume gazetteer is now available on the
website of Brigham Young University's Harold B. Lee Llbrary.
snip>>


Re: Prague prison-"Chiquita and Johnson" #general

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

Denise Abzill writes:
< 1930s and early 1940s called "Chiquita and Johnson". He said she was traveling
with false papers (she was Jewish) and was eventually caught by the authorities
I did a quick digitized newspaper search, and even though there were no articles I
could find until the 1950s....ones >from those decades provided information about
this "acrobatic dance team" and mentioned how they had fled >from Russia when
Chiquita was ordered back there by her Russian ballet master. The dancers "got to
American after appearances in Africa, Cuba and Mexico." They were also signed to a
movie deal by producer Sam Wiesenthal in Hollywood.

I'm sure that by browsing all 64 articles in which they are mentioned (primarily
L.A. and Chicago papers) you might turn up a few more tidbits with details about
their earlier years. It's also possible that they might have gotten coverage in
some of the Hollywood magazines of that era.

Always consider newspaper/magazine research as a vital adjunct to the usual
methods. Sounds like a fascinating story. Good luck with it!

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Prague prison-"Chiquita and Johnson" #general

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

Denise Abzill writes:
< 1930s and early 1940s called "Chiquita and Johnson". He said she was traveling
with false papers (she was Jewish) and was eventually caught by the authorities
I did a quick digitized newspaper search, and even though there were no articles I
could find until the 1950s....ones >from those decades provided information about
this "acrobatic dance team" and mentioned how they had fled >from Russia when
Chiquita was ordered back there by her Russian ballet master. The dancers "got to
American after appearances in Africa, Cuba and Mexico." They were also signed to a
movie deal by producer Sam Wiesenthal in Hollywood.

I'm sure that by browsing all 64 articles in which they are mentioned (primarily
L.A. and Chicago papers) you might turn up a few more tidbits with details about
their earlier years. It's also possible that they might have gotten coverage in
some of the Hollywood magazines of that era.

Always consider newspaper/magazine research as a vital adjunct to the usual
methods. Sounds like a fascinating story. Good luck with it!

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com