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who gets surnames based on city names? #belarus

Herbert Lazerow
 

Bob Kosovsky questions the proposition that when surnames
were taken, a person often took a surname related to the place where
he was living.
If this theory were true, logic would indicate that a majority of
people >from a
particular town would have that town's name, and smaller amounts would be
called by their priestly status or profession.
Having now observed a number of these taxation lists >from 1795-1818, what I
find striking is the variety of surnames for any town seems to be hardly less
than it would be 100 years later.
All true.
I pondered this for a while some years ago. Then I decided
that there would be no point in taking a surname that designated the
place where you currently lived. It only makes sense if you live
somewhere else. So, for instance, I have records >from Nezhin Ukraine
for 1860-1918. Looking through them, I found no people with the
surname "Nezhinskii", but I found families named "Varshavskii",
"Tarnapolskii", "Moskovskii", Mogilevskii, "Umanskii", and
"Berliner". These were people living in Nezhin at the time, and it
was convenient to label them as Khaim >from Warsaw or Khaim >from
Berlin. This would not have been convenient if they still lived in
Warsaw or Berlin, as there would have been too many Khaims of Warsaw there.
Bert
Herbert Lazerow
Visiting Professor 2007-2008, Boalt Hall, University of California Berkeley
Professor and Director, Institute on Int'l and Comparative Law
University of San Diego
5998 Alcala Park
San Diego CA 92110-2492
Phone: (619)260-4597
Fax 619-260-2230
E-mail: lazer@...


Belarus SIG #Belarus who gets surnames based on city names? #belarus

Herbert Lazerow
 

Bob Kosovsky questions the proposition that when surnames
were taken, a person often took a surname related to the place where
he was living.
If this theory were true, logic would indicate that a majority of
people >from a
particular town would have that town's name, and smaller amounts would be
called by their priestly status or profession.
Having now observed a number of these taxation lists >from 1795-1818, what I
find striking is the variety of surnames for any town seems to be hardly less
than it would be 100 years later.
All true.
I pondered this for a while some years ago. Then I decided
that there would be no point in taking a surname that designated the
place where you currently lived. It only makes sense if you live
somewhere else. So, for instance, I have records >from Nezhin Ukraine
for 1860-1918. Looking through them, I found no people with the
surname "Nezhinskii", but I found families named "Varshavskii",
"Tarnapolskii", "Moskovskii", Mogilevskii, "Umanskii", and
"Berliner". These were people living in Nezhin at the time, and it
was convenient to label them as Khaim >from Warsaw or Khaim >from
Berlin. This would not have been convenient if they still lived in
Warsaw or Berlin, as there would have been too many Khaims of Warsaw there.
Bert
Herbert Lazerow
Visiting Professor 2007-2008, Boalt Hall, University of California Berkeley
Professor and Director, Institute on Int'l and Comparative Law
University of San Diego
5998 Alcala Park
San Diego CA 92110-2492
Phone: (619)260-4597
Fax 619-260-2230
E-mail: lazer@...


Re: War Memorials - South London Synagogue WW1 Memorial Gates? #unitedkingdom

jeremy frankel
 

My second cousin twice removed, Cecil Eprile, a noted architect
supposedly designed a set of gates for the ark of the South East
London synagogue. These were a memorial for those killed during the
first World War.

The synagogue is no more, having been destroyed in 1940. It was
rebuilt in 1956. I suppose the gates were destroyed as well.

The source for the original information apparently comes >from the
1930 Annual Jewish Year Book, but this needs checking.

--
Jeremy G Frankel
ex Edgware, London, England
Berkeley, California, USA

EBIN: Russia, New York, USA
FRANKEL: Poland, London, England
GOLDRATH/GOLD: Praszka, Poland, London, England
KOENIGSBERG: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania, London, England, NYC, NY, USA
LEVY (later LEADER): Kalisz, Poland, London, England
PRINCZ/PRINCE: Krakow, Poland, London, England, NYC, NY, USA


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom re: War Memorials - South London Synagogue WW1 Memorial Gates? #unitedkingdom

jeremy frankel
 

My second cousin twice removed, Cecil Eprile, a noted architect
supposedly designed a set of gates for the ark of the South East
London synagogue. These were a memorial for those killed during the
first World War.

The synagogue is no more, having been destroyed in 1940. It was
rebuilt in 1956. I suppose the gates were destroyed as well.

The source for the original information apparently comes >from the
1930 Annual Jewish Year Book, but this needs checking.

--
Jeremy G Frankel
ex Edgware, London, England
Berkeley, California, USA

EBIN: Russia, New York, USA
FRANKEL: Poland, London, England
GOLDRATH/GOLD: Praszka, Poland, London, England
KOENIGSBERG: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania, London, England, NYC, NY, USA
LEVY (later LEADER): Kalisz, Poland, London, England
PRINCZ/PRINCE: Krakow, Poland, London, England, NYC, NY, USA


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Digital copies of Istanbul marriage records #sephardic

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I guided the project to transcribe over 75 thousand Istanbul marriage and
death records >from the late 1800s to the present:

http://www.benkazez.com/dan/istanbul/

We typed the index records for the marriages. I have digital copies of the
complete document for nearly all of the marriages. I would be happy to send
you a digital copy of a marriage record that is of special interest to you.

Daniel Kazez
Springfield, Ohio USA
KAZEZ, ALHADEFF, HABIB, FRESKO
http://www.benkazez.com/dan/elh-kaz-fre/


Digital copies of Istanbul marriage records #sephardic

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I guided the project to transcribe over 75 thousand Istanbul marriage and
death records >from the late 1800s to the present:

http://www.benkazez.com/dan/istanbul/

We typed the index records for the marriages. I have digital copies of the
complete document for nearly all of the marriages. I would be happy to send
you a digital copy of a marriage record that is of special interest to you.

Daniel Kazez
Springfield, Ohio USA
KAZEZ, ALHADEFF, HABIB, FRESKO
http://www.benkazez.com/dan/elh-kaz-fre/


Latvia SIG #Latvia Surnames in 1903 Business Ads in Mitau (Jelgava), Latvia Guidebook #latvia

Lois Rosen
 

Dear All,
While at the IAGJS Conference in SLC I stumbled upon an old (1903)
guidebook to Jelgava, Latvia in the stacks at the Family History
Library. The book has one page on the synagogue among its many pages
of churches and castles, but the back of the book is full of business
ads >from both Riga and Mitau (Jelgava), Latvia. I did not try to
discern which businesses were Jewish owned/run for fear of leaving
one out, so decided to copy them all. The ads are beautiful, and
include those for jewelers, brewers, shoe stores, musical
instruments, book stores, pharmaceuticals, confectioners and a
translator, to name a few. I will list the surnames I've extracted
from the ads, and if one is of interest to you, please contact me
privately and I will e-mail the ad to you.
SURNAMES >from 1903 BUSINESSES JELGAVA (MITAU) and also some in RIGA,
LATVIA
ARTEMJEWS
BLUMCHEN
BRAUER
BUTTNER
CAHN
CASAREWITSCH
DANNENBERG
DUMPF
EINFELD
FELDMANN
FINKENSTEIN
GOTZE
GRASSMANN
HAASE
HEERDT
HERTEL
HUBNER
KLACZKO
KOMEN
KROITZSCH
LANKOWSKY & LICCOP
LINDHOLM
LUTHER
MAULWURFF
MILWIDZKI
MESLIN
NIKLAS
REDLICH
ROSENTHAL
SCHLOTZER
SCHWARZ
SEMMEL
SIESLACK
STELLMACHER
STRECKER
WASSERMANN
WEISSMANN
WEITERMANN
ZIMMERMANN

Lois Rosen
logilby@...
La Canada, CA
Researching ROZINKO, ABRAMOVICH, SCHUWAL, GREDITOR, DRUJAN,
BERKOVICH, and GOLDBERG of Daugavpils and Riga, Latvia


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Don Hirschhorn receives award from Yad Vashem #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

I would personally like to second what Barry writes. Don does a vast
amount of vital volunteer work behind the scenes and he never gets
credit because it is always behind the scenes. He is always coming
up with inventive and useful ideas for furthering research or
expanding knowledge, but he doesn't let it rest there: he
aggressively pursues his ideas until they become a reality. We all
owe Don Hirschhorn countless awards for the work that he has done and
continues to do on our behalves.

Martha Lev-Zion
Israel

On 31 Jul 2007, at 5:27 AM, Barry Shay wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Latvia SIG is extremely proud that Don Hirschhorn, our Vice
President and long-time member, was presented with an award >from
Yad Vashem for his "activism, dedication and outstanding
volunteerism as coordinator for the Shoah Victims Names Recovery
Project," at the 27th Annual IAJGS Conference in Salt Lake City,
Utah, July 18, 2007.


Re: Don Hirschhorn receives award from Yad Vashem #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

I would personally like to second what Barry writes. Don does a vast
amount of vital volunteer work behind the scenes and he never gets
credit because it is always behind the scenes. He is always coming
up with inventive and useful ideas for furthering research or
expanding knowledge, but he doesn't let it rest there: he
aggressively pursues his ideas until they become a reality. We all
owe Don Hirschhorn countless awards for the work that he has done and
continues to do on our behalves.

Martha Lev-Zion
Israel

On 31 Jul 2007, at 5:27 AM, Barry Shay wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Latvia SIG is extremely proud that Don Hirschhorn, our Vice
President and long-time member, was presented with an award >from
Yad Vashem for his "activism, dedication and outstanding
volunteerism as coordinator for the Shoah Victims Names Recovery
Project," at the 27th Annual IAJGS Conference in Salt Lake City,
Utah, July 18, 2007.


Surnames in 1903 Business Ads in Mitau (Jelgava), Latvia Guidebook #latvia

Lois Rosen
 

Dear All,
While at the IAGJS Conference in SLC I stumbled upon an old (1903)
guidebook to Jelgava, Latvia in the stacks at the Family History
Library. The book has one page on the synagogue among its many pages
of churches and castles, but the back of the book is full of business
ads >from both Riga and Mitau (Jelgava), Latvia. I did not try to
discern which businesses were Jewish owned/run for fear of leaving
one out, so decided to copy them all. The ads are beautiful, and
include those for jewelers, brewers, shoe stores, musical
instruments, book stores, pharmaceuticals, confectioners and a
translator, to name a few. I will list the surnames I've extracted
from the ads, and if one is of interest to you, please contact me
privately and I will e-mail the ad to you.
SURNAMES >from 1903 BUSINESSES JELGAVA (MITAU) and also some in RIGA,
LATVIA
ARTEMJEWS
BLUMCHEN
BRAUER
BUTTNER
CAHN
CASAREWITSCH
DANNENBERG
DUMPF
EINFELD
FELDMANN
FINKENSTEIN
GOTZE
GRASSMANN
HAASE
HEERDT
HERTEL
HUBNER
KLACZKO
KOMEN
KROITZSCH
LANKOWSKY & LICCOP
LINDHOLM
LUTHER
MAULWURFF
MILWIDZKI
MESLIN
NIKLAS
REDLICH
ROSENTHAL
SCHLOTZER
SCHWARZ
SEMMEL
SIESLACK
STELLMACHER
STRECKER
WASSERMANN
WEISSMANN
WEITERMANN
ZIMMERMANN

Lois Rosen
logilby@...
La Canada, CA
Researching ROZINKO, ABRAMOVICH, SCHUWAL, GREDITOR, DRUJAN,
BERKOVICH, and GOLDBERG of Daugavpils and Riga, Latvia


Beled, Hungary #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
 

Dear Jewish Gen,

At last, the DVD containing photocopies of the registry books of the Jewish
Community of Beled, Hungary, lists of births (1851-1896) and inscriptions on
tombstones is ready and is available. Beled is located near Sopron. The
Jewish cemetery in Beled served the residents of Beled and nearby villages
as well as some of the residents of Kapuvar who desired to be buried in
Beled.

Please contact me for more information.

Dr. Joseph M. Schwarcz,
Omer, Israel

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Beled, Hungary #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
 

Dear Jewish Gen,

At last, the DVD containing photocopies of the registry books of the Jewish
Community of Beled, Hungary, lists of births (1851-1896) and inscriptions on
tombstones is ready and is available. Beled is located near Sopron. The
Jewish cemetery in Beled served the residents of Beled and nearby villages
as well as some of the residents of Kapuvar who desired to be buried in
Beled.

Please contact me for more information.

Dr. Joseph M. Schwarcz,
Omer, Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: This is posted subject to the One Time Mention
policy of JewishGen. Please note also the Special Interest Group
(SIG) that focuses on Hungarian Jewish matters:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/
Members may be interested in this data.


Re: Dotted e's in Dutch (was IOELS) #general

Nicole Heymans <nheymans@...>
 

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 03:17:23 -0700 (PDT)
Celia Male wrote:

"Or could it be NO-*EL* - like the carol "The First No-*E*L", with emphasis
on the last vowel? There is some credence to this. If you look at yad
vashem you will see the Amsterdam family where there are two dots on the
letter *e* to accentuate it."

The dots are not to accentuate the e but to pronounce it separately.
In Dutch IOELS without dots would be pronounced to rhyme with fools
(with a hard s), just as CITROEN without dots would rhyme with moon.

What (in my view) gives credence to stress on -ELS is the
transformation to ELLIS.

Nicole Heymans, Brussels, Belgium


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Dotted e's in Dutch (was IOELS) #general

Nicole Heymans <nheymans@...>
 

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 03:17:23 -0700 (PDT)
Celia Male wrote:

"Or could it be NO-*EL* - like the carol "The First No-*E*L", with emphasis
on the last vowel? There is some credence to this. If you look at yad
vashem you will see the Amsterdam family where there are two dots on the
letter *e* to accentuate it."

The dots are not to accentuate the e but to pronounce it separately.
In Dutch IOELS without dots would be pronounced to rhyme with fools
(with a hard s), just as CITROEN without dots would rhyme with moon.

What (in my view) gives credence to stress on -ELS is the
transformation to ELLIS.

Nicole Heymans, Brussels, Belgium


Eidel #general

malcolm katz <malkikatz9361@...>
 

Thank you to everyone who has replied on this original
posting of mine.
My grandmother Ada was born Jassy/Iasi in 1899-1900
and was known here as that her father came from
Ukraine and i have found a family there exact father
and his fathers name,I know the fathers names from
paper and graves,But didnt know her grandmothers
name,This one is Eidel in this family and i can only
think Ada as first born was named after this Eidel and
i see a match.
Her family naming is very much Yiddish/Hebrew
pattern,Her father was Lejb and his father
Schmul,Siblings were Reuben,Moses,Avram,Chana,Yosef
Smul etc.
The name hardly mentioned and very prominent in Great
Synagogue marriage registers 1791-1850 in London as a
Hebrew name is female Edel which is in there often,I
have 3 in my tree alone with this Hebrew name from
1790-1820's.
I shall check her grave to see what i says there and
expect it will be Edel if im right.

Kindest regards
Malki Katz
London


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Eidel #general

malcolm katz <malkikatz9361@...>
 

Thank you to everyone who has replied on this original
posting of mine.
My grandmother Ada was born Jassy/Iasi in 1899-1900
and was known here as that her father came from
Ukraine and i have found a family there exact father
and his fathers name,I know the fathers names from
paper and graves,But didnt know her grandmothers
name,This one is Eidel in this family and i can only
think Ada as first born was named after this Eidel and
i see a match.
Her family naming is very much Yiddish/Hebrew
pattern,Her father was Lejb and his father
Schmul,Siblings were Reuben,Moses,Avram,Chana,Yosef
Smul etc.
The name hardly mentioned and very prominent in Great
Synagogue marriage registers 1791-1850 in London as a
Hebrew name is female Edel which is in there often,I
have 3 in my tree alone with this Hebrew name from
1790-1820's.
I shall check her grave to see what i says there and
expect it will be Edel if im right.

Kindest regards
Malki Katz
London


name of Adel or Adina #general

abe simon
 

In the discussion of the name Adel the name Adina was referenced and someone
stated "It is not found in the Bible". Maybe it's Russian.
I've known a few Russian ladies with that name and it is a feminine
reference to the Russian number one (Adin) as in the first born.
Abe Simon
Las Vegas, NV
abe_simon@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen name of Adel or Adina #general

abe simon
 

In the discussion of the name Adel the name Adina was referenced and someone
stated "It is not found in the Bible". Maybe it's Russian.
I've known a few Russian ladies with that name and it is a feminine
reference to the Russian number one (Adin) as in the first born.
Abe Simon
Las Vegas, NV
abe_simon@...


Russian translatinon help sought #general

joinus@...
 

I would like to ask for help >from anyone that could transalate parts of 2
documents in russian that refer to my family. It would be greatly
appreciated.

Ben Knobel
Brooklyn N Y
joinus@...
researching:in Galicia HOROWITZ-Tolmitch-Potuk, SCHACHTER-Chortkow
SCHMIDT-Redshidtz-Rozwadow, FASTEN-FELSEN-SEAH-Rozwadow,Rzesow
KNOBLOCH-ZWIEBEL-ROSEN-Lancut, ALTER-WOLF-Wicnicz(Vishnitza),
In Grodno gubernia ORLANSKY-ECKSTIEN -Dubrowa-Suchowola

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Russian translatinon help sought #general

joinus@...
 

I would like to ask for help >from anyone that could transalate parts of 2
documents in russian that refer to my family. It would be greatly
appreciated.

Ben Knobel
Brooklyn N Y
joinus@...
researching:in Galicia HOROWITZ-Tolmitch-Potuk, SCHACHTER-Chortkow
SCHMIDT-Redshidtz-Rozwadow, FASTEN-FELSEN-SEAH-Rozwadow,Rzesow
KNOBLOCH-ZWIEBEL-ROSEN-Lancut, ALTER-WOLF-Wicnicz(Vishnitza),
In Grodno gubernia ORLANSKY-ECKSTIEN -Dubrowa-Suchowola

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