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Placename query on Ellis Island arrivals record #general

stephenfreed@tiscali.co.uk <stephenfreed@...>
 

My great uncle Sam Rosenzweig arrived in Ellis Island 31 Jan 1914. His
name was actually mistakenly recorded as Sam Rosenzwirz. His place of
origin appears to read "Mala" in Austria. His sister's place of origin
is clearly Miechowice in Galicia which I've so far assumed was the home
of the Rosenzweig family. Does anyone mind checking out this record to
see what they make of this placename please?

Steve Freed
Newcastle upon Tyne
UK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Placename query on Ellis Island arrivals record #general

stephenfreed@tiscali.co.uk <stephenfreed@...>
 

My great uncle Sam Rosenzweig arrived in Ellis Island 31 Jan 1914. His
name was actually mistakenly recorded as Sam Rosenzwirz. His place of
origin appears to read "Mala" in Austria. His sister's place of origin
is clearly Miechowice in Galicia which I've so far assumed was the home
of the Rosenzweig family. Does anyone mind checking out this record to
see what they make of this placename please?

Steve Freed
Newcastle upon Tyne
UK


Re: Surname HAENLE #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Steve Orlen wrote: Can someone tell me what the German (Jewish)
surname HAENLE means? Michael Bernet and Evertjan Hannivoort made
suggestions around the first name Johannes and the word for rooster.

Irene Newhouse >from Hawaii added to the discussion with the comment:
" It would NOT at all surprise me if a name had multiple meanings
in its origins -- our ancestors probably were not above punning,
and since they usually spoke/understood multiple languages -
Hebrew for religious purposes, Yiddish [or not] for every day use
at home & another language or 2 for when dealing with the goyim, --
multilingual puns are not out of the question either...."

I would like to point out that no-one has yet mentioned that HAENLE
is a bona-fide *non-Jewish* family name in Germany and Austria -
I wonder if they too are thinking of hidden meanings?
The Jewish family name may therefore well have been chosen to
blend in with the population at large, with the added bonus, perhaps,
{but not necessarily so] of having another deeper hidden-meaning,
based on a Hebrew word or name. I cannot vouch for this, but Kaganoff
in his 1977 book on family names says "HAHN became a by name for
several Hebrew first names such as Hanoch, Elhanan and Manoah."

Sounds a good enough reason to choose HAENLE to me!

Celia Male - London, U.K.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Surname HAENLE #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Steve Orlen wrote: Can someone tell me what the German (Jewish)
surname HAENLE means? Michael Bernet and Evertjan Hannivoort made
suggestions around the first name Johannes and the word for rooster.

Irene Newhouse >from Hawaii added to the discussion with the comment:
" It would NOT at all surprise me if a name had multiple meanings
in its origins -- our ancestors probably were not above punning,
and since they usually spoke/understood multiple languages -
Hebrew for religious purposes, Yiddish [or not] for every day use
at home & another language or 2 for when dealing with the goyim, --
multilingual puns are not out of the question either...."

I would like to point out that no-one has yet mentioned that HAENLE
is a bona-fide *non-Jewish* family name in Germany and Austria -
I wonder if they too are thinking of hidden meanings?
The Jewish family name may therefore well have been chosen to
blend in with the population at large, with the added bonus, perhaps,
{but not necessarily so] of having another deeper hidden-meaning,
based on a Hebrew word or name. I cannot vouch for this, but Kaganoff
in his 1977 book on family names says "HAHN became a by name for
several Hebrew first names such as Hanoch, Elhanan and Manoah."

Sounds a good enough reason to choose HAENLE to me!

Celia Male - London, U.K.


seeking: Stuart FREEDMAN, in or near London #general

Carol Baker
 

Does anyone know the home or email address of Stuart Freedman,
in or near London? He was born in 1967, the son of Ralph Freedman
and Phyllis Mincher.

Thank you,
Carol Coplin Baker
carolcbaker@comcast.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen seeking: Stuart FREEDMAN, in or near London #general

Carol Baker
 

Does anyone know the home or email address of Stuart Freedman,
in or near London? He was born in 1967, the son of Ralph Freedman
and Phyllis Mincher.

Thank you,
Carol Coplin Baker
carolcbaker@comcast.net


Re: FLEGENHEIMER #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

wrote on 22 aug 2008 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

Does anyone know the etymology of FLEGENHEIMER?
All I can think of is "flatlander."
Does anyone have a FLEGENHEIMER on their tree?
Flegenheimer seems to me an inhabitant
of the theoretical stetl "Flegenheim",
though ShtetlSeeker cannot find it
which has, in German, nothing to do with "flat".

Perhaps more to the point, a "Pflegeheim" is a nuring home.

You probably know that the real name of the famous gangster
"Dutch Schultz" was Arthur Flegenheimer.

Ah yes, te "Beer Baron of the Bronx", his father had a saloon there.
<http://tinyurl.com/64m8eo>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Schultz>
<http://www.feastofhateandfear.com/archives/dutch.html>

The name FLEGENHEIM also appears as a family name,
like Mrs. Alfred, Frau Antoinette Flegenheim,
on board of the Titanic, a resident of Berlin.

Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: FLEGENHEIMER #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

wrote on 22 aug 2008 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

Does anyone know the etymology of FLEGENHEIMER?
All I can think of is "flatlander."
Does anyone have a FLEGENHEIMER on their tree?
Flegenheimer seems to me an inhabitant
of the theoretical stetl "Flegenheim",
though ShtetlSeeker cannot find it
which has, in German, nothing to do with "flat".

Perhaps more to the point, a "Pflegeheim" is a nuring home.

You probably know that the real name of the famous gangster
"Dutch Schultz" was Arthur Flegenheimer.

Ah yes, te "Beer Baron of the Bronx", his father had a saloon there.
<http://tinyurl.com/64m8eo>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Schultz>
<http://www.feastofhateandfear.com/archives/dutch.html>

The name FLEGENHEIM also appears as a family name,
like Mrs. Alfred, Frau Antoinette Flegenheim,
on board of the Titanic, a resident of Berlin.

Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


JewishGen and Ancestry.com #belarus

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

JewishGen is very pleased to announce that JewishGen.org,
the premier resource for Jewish genealogy, and Ancestry.com,
the largest online resource for family history information,
have entered into a cooperative agreement.

Basics of the agreement:

* JewishGen will make some of its databases available on
the Ancestry website.
* Ancestry will provide hardware and network support for
the JewishGen website.

Benefits of the agreement:

* JewishGen will be able to provide more robust and
functional resources to genealogists throughout the world.
* Specific and immediate improvements will be seen in
the speed of the JewishGen website, along with greater
accessibility when searching databases.
* More people will be exposed to Jewish genealogy and
have access to a greater range of resources to assist in
researching family history.
* JewishGen’s comprehensive records and information,
contributed by volunteers >from around the world, will
continue to remain freely available on JewishGen.org.

Details of the agreement:

* JewishGen remains an independent non-profit organization,
affiliated with the Museum of Jewish Heritage – A Living
Memorial to the Holocaust.
* There will be no change to the JewishGen management team,
structure or affiliation with the museum.
* This new agreement, combined with the generosity of
our donors throughout the world, will allow us to continue
offering all of JewishGen’s extensive resources for no charge.
* All of the JewishGen data licensed to Ancestry will
be freely available on the Ancestry.com website without charge.
* Privacy of personal information for JewishGen users is of
key importance to us. Information about JewishGen registrants
will *not* be shared.
* Personal information stored on JewishGen, such as data in
the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF) and the Family Tree of the
Jewish People (FTJP), will *not* be shared with Ancestry.
* JewishGen will continue to independently administer the
JewishGen website, mailing lists and affiliates.
* There will be no changes to the content of the JewishGen
website, or any of JewishGen's programs or mailing lists.
JewishGen remains an independent non-profit organization.

Further information, including Ancestry's press release,
is available at the JewishGen blog:
< http://jewishgen.blogspot.com >.

A FactSheet about the agreement is being prepared.
We welcome your questions and concerns. *All* questions
will be answered on he JewishGen blog.

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Warren Blatt
Managing Director, JewishGen
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Re: Types of Yarmulke #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 8/21/2008 7:49:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
_sorlen@email.arizona.edu_ (mailto:sorlen@email.arizona.edu) writes:
<< In some early 19th century eastern European photographs, we see our
ancestors wearing a sort of skullcap that could be pulled down a bit
so it won't fly off in the wind. In other photographs I've seen, the
small cap is prevalent. Is the difference a matter of time and / or
place? Can we more or less date a photograph by the type of yarmulke worn?>>

==You have a point there about being blown off by the wind. I believe the
tiny yarmulke under 6 inches was designed to be worn under a hat
or at home indoors. Today's tiny ones, and the little knitted ones >from
Israel became popular only in the last seventy years.

==I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "a sort of skullcap that could
be pulled down a bit so it won't fly off in the wind." The alternative
to my mind is a black cylinder about 4 inches deep. For what it's worth,
that was common also in Germany into the 1930s, more so by the
very religious and by older men.

==Yes, I think it varied with time, occasion, and ambience, not just
by geography. In photos I've seen, it seems to have been favored by
those at work--mechanics, shopkeepers . . . probably because it could
be worn securely while reaching for a high shelf.

==The first man who used one of the new-fangled woman's hairclip
(ignoring the Torah's injunctions against wearing female clothing)
started something of a sartorial revolution.

Michael Bernet, New York
mbernet@aol.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus JewishGen and Ancestry.com #belarus

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

JewishGen is very pleased to announce that JewishGen.org,
the premier resource for Jewish genealogy, and Ancestry.com,
the largest online resource for family history information,
have entered into a cooperative agreement.

Basics of the agreement:

* JewishGen will make some of its databases available on
the Ancestry website.
* Ancestry will provide hardware and network support for
the JewishGen website.

Benefits of the agreement:

* JewishGen will be able to provide more robust and
functional resources to genealogists throughout the world.
* Specific and immediate improvements will be seen in
the speed of the JewishGen website, along with greater
accessibility when searching databases.
* More people will be exposed to Jewish genealogy and
have access to a greater range of resources to assist in
researching family history.
* JewishGen’s comprehensive records and information,
contributed by volunteers >from around the world, will
continue to remain freely available on JewishGen.org.

Details of the agreement:

* JewishGen remains an independent non-profit organization,
affiliated with the Museum of Jewish Heritage – A Living
Memorial to the Holocaust.
* There will be no change to the JewishGen management team,
structure or affiliation with the museum.
* This new agreement, combined with the generosity of
our donors throughout the world, will allow us to continue
offering all of JewishGen’s extensive resources for no charge.
* All of the JewishGen data licensed to Ancestry will
be freely available on the Ancestry.com website without charge.
* Privacy of personal information for JewishGen users is of
key importance to us. Information about JewishGen registrants
will *not* be shared.
* Personal information stored on JewishGen, such as data in
the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF) and the Family Tree of the
Jewish People (FTJP), will *not* be shared with Ancestry.
* JewishGen will continue to independently administer the
JewishGen website, mailing lists and affiliates.
* There will be no changes to the content of the JewishGen
website, or any of JewishGen's programs or mailing lists.
JewishGen remains an independent non-profit organization.

Further information, including Ancestry's press release,
is available at the JewishGen blog:
< http://jewishgen.blogspot.com >.

A FactSheet about the agreement is being prepared.
We welcome your questions and concerns. *All* questions
will be answered on he JewishGen blog.

Warren

Warren Blatt
Managing Director, JewishGen
<wblatt@jewishgen.org>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Types of Yarmulke #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 8/21/2008 7:49:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
_sorlen@email.arizona.edu_ (mailto:sorlen@email.arizona.edu) writes:
<< In some early 19th century eastern European photographs, we see our
ancestors wearing a sort of skullcap that could be pulled down a bit
so it won't fly off in the wind. In other photographs I've seen, the
small cap is prevalent. Is the difference a matter of time and / or
place? Can we more or less date a photograph by the type of yarmulke worn?>>

==You have a point there about being blown off by the wind. I believe the
tiny yarmulke under 6 inches was designed to be worn under a hat
or at home indoors. Today's tiny ones, and the little knitted ones >from
Israel became popular only in the last seventy years.

==I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "a sort of skullcap that could
be pulled down a bit so it won't fly off in the wind." The alternative
to my mind is a black cylinder about 4 inches deep. For what it's worth,
that was common also in Germany into the 1930s, more so by the
very religious and by older men.

==Yes, I think it varied with time, occasion, and ambience, not just
by geography. In photos I've seen, it seems to have been favored by
those at work--mechanics, shopkeepers . . . probably because it could
be worn securely while reaching for a high shelf.

==The first man who used one of the new-fangled woman's hairclip
(ignoring the Torah's injunctions against wearing female clothing)
started something of a sartorial revolution.

Michael Bernet, New York
mbernet@aol.com


Liverpool cemetery information #general

albomms@...
 

I looked for information about Liverpool Jewish cemeteries on JewishGen.org,
and a man named Berny Goodheart was described as someone researching
those cemeteries and had pictures of many gravestones. I tried E-mailing
to the listed address, and unfortunately the E-mail address appeared to no
longer be good. Is there any updated contact information?

I have pictures of the stones >from some of my relatives, but there are at
least a few more we're interested in. My great-great grandparents, Rachel
(born LIPKIN) and Jacob BERGMAN are interred at the Rice Lane Cemetery.
Despite vandalism, those headstones are apparently intact. I'm anxious to
learn the name of Jacob's father in particular!

Neither I or my relatives live in the UK, so if there are any other
resources available to learn about family in Liverpool cemeteries >from
across the ocean please let me know!

Thank you,
Mark Albom
Researching ALBOM, OELBAUM, BERGMAN, LIPKIN, SCHWARTZ, REISS,
SCHUSTER, BRANDSTATTER, BLOCK, HAMALSKI, KOBRINSKY, ZHIDOVETSKY,
MILLENCHIK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Liverpool cemetery information #general

albomms@...
 

I looked for information about Liverpool Jewish cemeteries on JewishGen.org,
and a man named Berny Goodheart was described as someone researching
those cemeteries and had pictures of many gravestones. I tried E-mailing
to the listed address, and unfortunately the E-mail address appeared to no
longer be good. Is there any updated contact information?

I have pictures of the stones >from some of my relatives, but there are at
least a few more we're interested in. My great-great grandparents, Rachel
(born LIPKIN) and Jacob BERGMAN are interred at the Rice Lane Cemetery.
Despite vandalism, those headstones are apparently intact. I'm anxious to
learn the name of Jacob's father in particular!

Neither I or my relatives live in the UK, so if there are any other
resources available to learn about family in Liverpool cemeteries >from
across the ocean please let me know!

Thank you,
Mark Albom
Researching ALBOM, OELBAUM, BERGMAN, LIPKIN, SCHWARTZ, REISS,
SCHUSTER, BRANDSTATTER, BLOCK, HAMALSKI, KOBRINSKY, ZHIDOVETSKY,
MILLENCHIK


Marjorie EPSTEIN GUYAN #general

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Cousins,

I'm trying to locate a cousin named Marjorie EPSTEIN, once married to
John GUYAN. She would be about 66 years old The last I heard, she was
living in Florida.

Please email me at sorlen@email.arizona.edu

Best, Steve Orlen Tucson Arizona


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Marjorie EPSTEIN GUYAN #general

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Cousins,

I'm trying to locate a cousin named Marjorie EPSTEIN, once married to
John GUYAN. She would be about 66 years old The last I heard, she was
living in Florida.

Please email me at sorlen@email.arizona.edu

Best, Steve Orlen Tucson Arizona


Personal Ads in New York City Newspapers #general

Joyce Eastman
 

Is anyone familiar with personal ads that might have been placed by
immigrants seeking relationships with other immigrants >from the same part of
the world who had settled in the New York City area? Family legend has it
that my parents met in this way through a personal ad placed by my maternal
grandmother to find a companion for my mother. Since all elders in the
family are now deceased, I wonder if anyone has had a similar story to tell
and might know which newspaper(s) provided this type of posting during the
late 1930's early 1940's period in the New York City area.

Please respond privately. Thanks.

Joyce Eastman
Orange City, FL USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Personal Ads in New York City Newspapers #general

Joyce Eastman
 

Is anyone familiar with personal ads that might have been placed by
immigrants seeking relationships with other immigrants >from the same part of
the world who had settled in the New York City area? Family legend has it
that my parents met in this way through a personal ad placed by my maternal
grandmother to find a companion for my mother. Since all elders in the
family are now deceased, I wonder if anyone has had a similar story to tell
and might know which newspaper(s) provided this type of posting during the
late 1930's early 1940's period in the New York City area.

Please respond privately. Thanks.

Joyce Eastman
Orange City, FL USA


Re: Jewish Records attached to LDS Church Records????? #ukraine

Vladimir Salita <vlasal@...>
 

Orthodox Church records do not contain any Jewish data.
Jewish info in FHL is usually under the title "Jewish Records"

Vladimir Salita
Bowie, MD

From: taxtroll@aol.com, Sharon Klein wrote:
The FHL has a 1999 Russian manuscript on microfilm with the following
description:

Orthodox Church records (births, marriages, deaths) for the Troitskaia
Church, Talâ?²noe, Umanâ?², Kiev, Russia; later Talâ?²ne, Talâ?²ne,
Cherkasy, Ukraine. Text in Russian.

It covers the period 1882-1920. Does anyone know if this would include
any Jewish records?

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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Jewish Records attached to LDS Church Records????? #ukraine

Vladimir Salita <vlasal@...>
 

Orthodox Church records do not contain any Jewish data.
Jewish info in FHL is usually under the title "Jewish Records"

Vladimir Salita
Bowie, MD

From: taxtroll@aol.com, Sharon Klein wrote:
The FHL has a 1999 Russian manuscript on microfilm with the following
description:

Orthodox Church records (births, marriages, deaths) for the Troitskaia
Church, Talâ?²noe, Umanâ?², Kiev, Russia; later Talâ?²ne, Talâ?²ne,
Cherkasy, Ukraine. Text in Russian.

It covers the period 1882-1920. Does anyone know if this would include
any Jewish records?

Moderator's Note: PLEASE do NOT hit the REPLY button. Copy and paste a
portion of the query you are responding to - into a new e-mail - -
and then send your response.