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Photo detective #general

Alberto Guido Chester <agchester@...>
 

Dear Genners
I have found an interesting link
http://blog.familytreemagazine.com/photodetectiveblog/
It shows very subtle investigation on old faamily pictures that can give a hint on
very usual questions posted on Jewishgen. I have no commercial interest in this
site.
Regards

Alberto Guido Chester
Buenos Aires, Argentina


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Photo detective #general

Alberto Guido Chester <agchester@...>
 

Dear Genners
I have found an interesting link
http://blog.familytreemagazine.com/photodetectiveblog/
It shows very subtle investigation on old faamily pictures that can give a hint on
very usual questions posted on Jewishgen. I have no commercial interest in this
site.
Regards

Alberto Guido Chester
Buenos Aires, Argentina


Hungarian Society records at YIVO #general

Barbara Kaufman
 

Today I finished indexing the mostly deceased member files of the Hungarian Society
now the Mutual Benevolent Society of 1865, at YIVO, and the finding aid should be
available in the reading room at the Center for Jewish History in New York City.

There are 25 boxes of folders, though few for the pre-1900 members. These are
strictly Society records, not cemetery or burial lists. Many members are not
buried in the Hungarian Cemetery and not all the members are of Hungarian descent.

The folders range >from empty with just a name on the outside to a virtual goldmine
of information. The outside of the folder may show the member's name, date of
birth, date he joined the Society, wife's name, possibly children's names, whether
he collected sick benefits and if so how much, and if he was an officer or
committee member of the Society. Also his death date and cemetery where he is
buried.

Inside the folder may possibly be found the death certificate of a pre-deceased
spouse and how much benefit the member received towards her funeral expenses,
letters to and >from the member, mainly about sick benefits and their cause and
requests for financial aid during the depression. Also name changes, marriage,
divorce and remarriage information and finally the the member's death certificate
and affidavit >from his widow or children or nursing home claiming the death
benefit.

There are also boxes of othe Society information that are very useful. There are
books of financial information, a membership book with signatures of each member
when he was inducted, including people not in the index, minutes of board meetings
and copies of the Society newsletter, "Sayings and Doings" which has information
about births, bar/bat mitzvahs. marriages and so on in the member's families.

Barbara Kaufman
Mt. Vernon, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hungarian Society records at YIVO #general

Barbara Kaufman
 

Today I finished indexing the mostly deceased member files of the Hungarian Society
now the Mutual Benevolent Society of 1865, at YIVO, and the finding aid should be
available in the reading room at the Center for Jewish History in New York City.

There are 25 boxes of folders, though few for the pre-1900 members. These are
strictly Society records, not cemetery or burial lists. Many members are not
buried in the Hungarian Cemetery and not all the members are of Hungarian descent.

The folders range >from empty with just a name on the outside to a virtual goldmine
of information. The outside of the folder may show the member's name, date of
birth, date he joined the Society, wife's name, possibly children's names, whether
he collected sick benefits and if so how much, and if he was an officer or
committee member of the Society. Also his death date and cemetery where he is
buried.

Inside the folder may possibly be found the death certificate of a pre-deceased
spouse and how much benefit the member received towards her funeral expenses,
letters to and >from the member, mainly about sick benefits and their cause and
requests for financial aid during the depression. Also name changes, marriage,
divorce and remarriage information and finally the the member's death certificate
and affidavit >from his widow or children or nursing home claiming the death
benefit.

There are also boxes of othe Society information that are very useful. There are
books of financial information, a membership book with signatures of each member
when he was inducted, including people not in the index, minutes of board meetings
and copies of the Society newsletter, "Sayings and Doings" which has information
about births, bar/bat mitzvahs. marriages and so on in the member's families.

Barbara Kaufman
Mt. Vernon, NY


Information sought on forest near Demblin/Ryki Poland #general

Sheryl Bronkesh <sbronkesh@...>
 

I am trying to learn more about my father's activities as a partisan who survived
WWII in the woods after escaping >from a work camp in Demblin where he was taken
from his home in Ryki, Poland. A surviving uncle called the woods the Goloski or
Golofsker Lasi. I am going to Ryki in a few months and want to see the forest that
sheltered my father and his three brothers. Does anyone have information on a more
precise location of such a wooded area?
Any assistance would be appreciated.
Sheryl Bronkesh
Scottsdale, AZ USA

Sheryl Bronkesh
sbronkesh@cox.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Information sought on forest near Demblin/Ryki Poland #general

Sheryl Bronkesh <sbronkesh@...>
 

I am trying to learn more about my father's activities as a partisan who survived
WWII in the woods after escaping >from a work camp in Demblin where he was taken
from his home in Ryki, Poland. A surviving uncle called the woods the Goloski or
Golofsker Lasi. I am going to Ryki in a few months and want to see the forest that
sheltered my father and his three brothers. Does anyone have information on a more
precise location of such a wooded area?
Any assistance would be appreciated.
Sheryl Bronkesh
Scottsdale, AZ USA

Sheryl Bronkesh
sbronkesh@cox.net


Translations from German to English needed-Viewmate #general

Dottie Miller
 

Plesae help me fill in my MEYERs of Goersdorf, France! I have MEYERs documented on
my family tree back to the early 1700's up to the conquest of Alsace by Germany in
1871. Once the language switched to German, I'm lost. I photographed many civil
records in written in German and have them as digital files of less than 400 KB.
Most of each file is a standard form.with the personal data written in. It's the
personal data that I need. I've posted 5 such records on viewmate, VM12511-VM12515.

I would very greatly appreciate help translating these, and if you find
these fun to do, please let me give you more.

Dottie Miller
San Antonio, TX

MODERATOR NOTE: The direct URLs to these records are:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=12511
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=12512
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=12513
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=12515


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Translations from German to English needed-Viewmate #general

Dottie Miller
 

Plesae help me fill in my MEYERs of Goersdorf, France! I have MEYERs documented on
my family tree back to the early 1700's up to the conquest of Alsace by Germany in
1871. Once the language switched to German, I'm lost. I photographed many civil
records in written in German and have them as digital files of less than 400 KB.
Most of each file is a standard form.with the personal data written in. It's the
personal data that I need. I've posted 5 such records on viewmate, VM12511-VM12515.

I would very greatly appreciate help translating these, and if you find
these fun to do, please let me give you more.

Dottie Miller
San Antonio, TX

MODERATOR NOTE: The direct URLs to these records are:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=12511
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=12512
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=12513
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=12515


Romanian --translate #general

gitty2@att.net
 

Dear Genners On Viewmate please see the letter I have entered-#12516. I think it has
details on how to pay for and receive an important family record. Thank you in
advance. Gert Lord Yellow Springs Ohio.
See www.jewishgen.org/viewmate to view.

MODERATOR NOTE: The direct link to the viewmate image is
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=12516


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Romanian --translate #general

gitty2@att.net
 

Dear Genners On Viewmate please see the letter I have entered-#12516. I think it has
details on how to pay for and receive an important family record. Thank you in
advance. Gert Lord Yellow Springs Ohio.
See www.jewishgen.org/viewmate to view.

MODERATOR NOTE: The direct link to the viewmate image is
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=12516


Re: Male as the first name on a Certificate #general

Judith Cohen <judith.cohen@...>
 

I was born in a Brooklyn hospital in 1970 and my birth certificate says Female,
there was an addendum/change on the back of the original certificate with my actual
name. It looks like a stamp that was then filled in with the name and date and
signature, which was just shy of a month after I was born.

Judith

genealogynewsgal@yahoo.com writes:
I just want to clarify that if a name has not been chosen, as was in the case on
my father's birth certificate, the first name was Male (or Female).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Male as the first name on a Certificate #general

Judith Cohen <judith.cohen@...>
 

I was born in a Brooklyn hospital in 1970 and my birth certificate says Female,
there was an addendum/change on the back of the original certificate with my actual
name. It looks like a stamp that was then filled in with the name and date and
signature, which was just shy of a month after I was born.

Judith

genealogynewsgal@yahoo.com writes:
I just want to clarify that if a name has not been chosen, as was in the case on
my father's birth certificate, the first name was Male (or Female).


Re: Male as the first name on a Certificate #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

When I visited the Jewish Historical Museum in Manchester, England, some years ago,
one of the exhibits was a register book kept by one particular midwife, in the
early years of the 20th century, as I recall. The description clearly implied that
keeping such a register was a standard practice.

I wonder if midwives in the US did that, too. I can see the same sort of errors
described by Allan being recorded in a register book on the scene if there was
hustle and bustle, and chaos associate, for example, with an unexpectedly early
labor or the development of some problem - or just other children making a scene.
But I can also see a register book being a reasonable thing for a midwife to create
as a memory aide if she were going to formally record births on a less than daily
basis.

Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

PZAVON@Rochester.rr.com

<Aejordan@aol.com> wrote:

I just want to clarify that if a name has not been chosen, as was in the case on
my father's birth certificate, the first name was Male (or Female). Why would
a name had not been chosen or stated at the time of birth?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Male as the first name on a Certificate #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

When I visited the Jewish Historical Museum in Manchester, England, some years ago,
one of the exhibits was a register book kept by one particular midwife, in the
early years of the 20th century, as I recall. The description clearly implied that
keeping such a register was a standard practice.

I wonder if midwives in the US did that, too. I can see the same sort of errors
described by Allan being recorded in a register book on the scene if there was
hustle and bustle, and chaos associate, for example, with an unexpectedly early
labor or the development of some problem - or just other children making a scene.
But I can also see a register book being a reasonable thing for a midwife to create
as a memory aide if she were going to formally record births on a less than daily
basis.

Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

PZAVON@Rochester.rr.com

<Aejordan@aol.com> wrote:

I just want to clarify that if a name has not been chosen, as was in the case on
my father's birth certificate, the first name was Male (or Female). Why would
a name had not been chosen or stated at the time of birth?


Re: Where is the town of Lawary? #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

In his contribution to this thread, Joe Fibel said, in part, that there were two
possibilities for this town, both named Lavrov, but one near Lutsk and the other
near Starry Sambor. Starry Sambor was in the Austro-Hungarian Province of Galicia,
not in the Russian Empire. This seems to point to the Lavrov near Lutsk, in the
Volhyn Gubernia during the time of the Russian Empire.

Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

PZAVON@Rochester.rr.com

"Rosens" <rosens@rcn.com> wrote in message

The Czar passenger list for the NY arrival of June 11, 1912 identifies the
location in two different columns as both "Lawary Wol. gub. Russia" and "Lawara
Russia". Wol. gub. is the Volhyn Gubernia, part of today's Ukraine.
Howh20@aol.com wrote:
On the ship manifest of the SS. Czar sailing >from Libau, Russia to New York on
30 May 1912, several relatives of mine are shown with the "last permanent
residence" very clearly as Lawary, Russia.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Where is the town of Lawary? #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

In his contribution to this thread, Joe Fibel said, in part, that there were two
possibilities for this town, both named Lavrov, but one near Lutsk and the other
near Starry Sambor. Starry Sambor was in the Austro-Hungarian Province of Galicia,
not in the Russian Empire. This seems to point to the Lavrov near Lutsk, in the
Volhyn Gubernia during the time of the Russian Empire.

Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

PZAVON@Rochester.rr.com

"Rosens" <rosens@rcn.com> wrote in message

The Czar passenger list for the NY arrival of June 11, 1912 identifies the
location in two different columns as both "Lawary Wol. gub. Russia" and "Lawara
Russia". Wol. gub. is the Volhyn Gubernia, part of today's Ukraine.
Howh20@aol.com wrote:
On the ship manifest of the SS. Czar sailing >from Libau, Russia to New York on
30 May 1912, several relatives of mine are shown with the "last permanent
residence" very clearly as Lawary, Russia.


Male as the first name on a Certificate #general

Walter Greenspan
 

Linda Morzillo asks, "I just want to clarify that if a name has not been chosen, as
was in the case on my father's birth certificate, the first name was Male (or
Female). Why would a name had not been chosen or stated at the time of birth?"

As I understand it, Jewish custom is to name on the 8th, or Circumcision, day; and,
if a baby dies before the 8th day, there is no name. New York State requires a name
for a birth certificate no later than the third day.

Thus, many Jewish children have the first name of "male" or "female" for the
official birth certificate and, when they reach their majority, many, but possibly
not all, of these now young adults go to New York State Supreme Court (each of the
62 current counties in New York State has a New York State Supreme court) and
change the name on their birth certificate.

I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting.

Wishing all a Ziessen Pesach (a sweet Passover),

Walter Greenspan
Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Male as the first name on a Certificate #general

Walter Greenspan
 

Linda Morzillo asks, "I just want to clarify that if a name has not been chosen, as
was in the case on my father's birth certificate, the first name was Male (or
Female). Why would a name had not been chosen or stated at the time of birth?"

As I understand it, Jewish custom is to name on the 8th, or Circumcision, day; and,
if a baby dies before the 8th day, there is no name. New York State requires a name
for a birth certificate no later than the third day.

Thus, many Jewish children have the first name of "male" or "female" for the
official birth certificate and, when they reach their majority, many, but possibly
not all, of these now young adults go to New York State Supreme Court (each of the
62 current counties in New York State has a New York State Supreme court) and
change the name on their birth certificate.

I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting.

Wishing all a Ziessen Pesach (a sweet Passover),

Walter Greenspan
Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY


Internal Passports - RAGOWSKY #lithuania

Jackye Sullins <jsullins@...>
 

I want to share my success. I found my great aunt and uncle, Aron and Feige
RAGOWSKY, listed in the Internal Passport database. I wrote to the Kaunas
archives and just received the papers. What a terrific source it turned
out to be! Multiple photos of both of them, both parents' names including
mother's maiden name, birth dates and places of birth, name and date of
birth of their son, etc. That's only what I can read. There must be more
and I plan to have the documents translated this summer at the conference
in Philadelphia.

I encourage everyone to pursue this avenue. Donations to the project will
help index all the passports and maybe your relatives are waiting to be
found.

Reminder: If the records you need are in the Kaunas Regional Archive
(KRA), it could take months before a response is received. If the
records are in the Central Archive in Vilnius (LCVA) a response can be
expected in 2 months or less.

Jackye Sullins
Carlsbad, CA


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Internal Passports - RAGOWSKY #lithuania

Jackye Sullins <jsullins@...>
 

I want to share my success. I found my great aunt and uncle, Aron and Feige
RAGOWSKY, listed in the Internal Passport database. I wrote to the Kaunas
archives and just received the papers. What a terrific source it turned
out to be! Multiple photos of both of them, both parents' names including
mother's maiden name, birth dates and places of birth, name and date of
birth of their son, etc. That's only what I can read. There must be more
and I plan to have the documents translated this summer at the conference
in Philadelphia.

I encourage everyone to pursue this avenue. Donations to the project will
help index all the passports and maybe your relatives are waiting to be
found.

Reminder: If the records you need are in the Kaunas Regional Archive
(KRA), it could take months before a response is received. If the
records are in the Central Archive in Vilnius (LCVA) a response can be
expected in 2 months or less.

Jackye Sullins
Carlsbad, CA