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Picture of tombstone-Chaya Gittel bas R' Dovid of Skalat #general

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

I found a picture of my greatgrandfather's sister's tombstone in Jerusalem.

Her name was Chaya Gittel bas (daughter of) R' David, Shu"b (ScHochet
U'Bodek)of Skalat, 'wife of R' Alter , SHu"B,of Buczcacz , sister of
the Mekubal R' Yacov Gedalia (Schechter, myggrandfather).

If anyone is interested in this photo and /or interested in making
contact with our branch of the family, please reply directly.

Shabbat shalom,

Yoni Ben-Ari
Efrat, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Picture of tombstone-Chaya Gittel bas R' Dovid of Skalat #general

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

I found a picture of my greatgrandfather's sister's tombstone in Jerusalem.

Her name was Chaya Gittel bas (daughter of) R' David, Shu"b (ScHochet
U'Bodek)of Skalat, 'wife of R' Alter , SHu"B,of Buczcacz , sister of
the Mekubal R' Yacov Gedalia (Schechter, myggrandfather).

If anyone is interested in this photo and /or interested in making
contact with our branch of the family, please reply directly.

Shabbat shalom,

Yoni Ben-Ari
Efrat, Israel


New online European records #general

Ben Forman <ben.forman@...>
 

Hi Genners

I was shown an exciting new project yesterday during a visit to my
local family history centre yesterday, which involves actual records
being digitised and made available online through the family search
website. It is currently a pilot project, but if the mods will allow
me to post the link you will see that there a number of records
already online that may be useful to our community

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#r=1;p=allCollections

My own interest was in the Posen records and clicking on that link
which says "church book duplicates" took me to a page that included
one set of labelled Jewish records "Schwerin Warthe (Judische Gemeinde)
(Kr.Schwerin Warthe) 1861-1866".

I'm sure for those who have the time there are other relevent records
to find. In the pilot project, the European countries listed with some
archival material available are: England, Norway, Germany, Czech
Republic, Spain, France, Ireland, and Netherlands.

The site is flash based so runs a little slowly.

Hope this is of use

Ben
Ben Forman
Manchester UK

searching: BERNSTEIN/WEINER: Ylakai, CAHN/WOLF: Koeln; FURMAN: Kaluszyn;
GEVER: Daugavpils/Dvinsk, Latvia; SAWADY: Zavadi,Posen;
STILLMAN: Pilica/Czestechowa; ZEYDER/ZEIDLER: Kursan, Lithuania

MODERATOR NOTE: Some computers may not be able to load this site.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New online European records #general

Ben Forman <ben.forman@...>
 

Hi Genners

I was shown an exciting new project yesterday during a visit to my
local family history centre yesterday, which involves actual records
being digitised and made available online through the family search
website. It is currently a pilot project, but if the mods will allow
me to post the link you will see that there a number of records
already online that may be useful to our community

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#r=1;p=allCollections

My own interest was in the Posen records and clicking on that link
which says "church book duplicates" took me to a page that included
one set of labelled Jewish records "Schwerin Warthe (Judische Gemeinde)
(Kr.Schwerin Warthe) 1861-1866".

I'm sure for those who have the time there are other relevent records
to find. In the pilot project, the European countries listed with some
archival material available are: England, Norway, Germany, Czech
Republic, Spain, France, Ireland, and Netherlands.

The site is flash based so runs a little slowly.

Hope this is of use

Ben
Ben Forman
Manchester UK

searching: BERNSTEIN/WEINER: Ylakai, CAHN/WOLF: Koeln; FURMAN: Kaluszyn;
GEVER: Daugavpils/Dvinsk, Latvia; SAWADY: Zavadi,Posen;
STILLMAN: Pilica/Czestechowa; ZEYDER/ZEIDLER: Kursan, Lithuania

MODERATOR NOTE: Some computers may not be able to load this site.


JGSMI presents "The Tree of Life" #belarus

Juditomfox1@...
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Michigan (JGSMI) will be having a
special Fund Raising Event on Sunday, April 26, 2009 Bagels, Coffee,
and a movie. Bagels and Coffee at 11:45 a.m.; the film at 12:30 p.m.

The event will take place at the Commerce Theater, 14 Mile and Haggerty
Roads in Walled Lake Michigan on the Opening Day of the Lenore Marwil Jewish
Film Festival.

The Opening Day Movie is the "Tree of Life".

There is a charge of $18.00 for the Bagel and Coffee Session, which
includes a ticket to the movie, and a deductible donation to the Jewish
Genealogical Society of Michigan. For further information about this event
go to www.jgsmi.org, email programs@..., or call 1-248-496-1324.

The Tree of Life, a remarkable film of great beauty and substance, begins
with Hava Volterra recalling how one day, speaking with her father she
thought that he sounded old. She wanted him to go and visit, Italy, the
land of his birth. Unfortunately her father died before the trip could be made.

Hava takes the trip her father could not make.
Volterra shows us a life lived by a man who thought himself a failure.

But she discovers surprises as she shakes the family tree; bankers, a
prime minister, a famous American politician,etc.

Hava Volterra's trip to the ancestral land teaches us how to see what has
been in front of us all the time.

This is a remarkable Opening Day Movie


Judith Koenig Fox
West Bloomfield, Michigan
Vice-President, Publicity JGSMI
publicity@...
juditomfox1@...


Belarus SIG #Belarus JGSMI presents "The Tree of Life" #belarus

Juditomfox1@...
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Michigan (JGSMI) will be having a
special Fund Raising Event on Sunday, April 26, 2009 Bagels, Coffee,
and a movie. Bagels and Coffee at 11:45 a.m.; the film at 12:30 p.m.

The event will take place at the Commerce Theater, 14 Mile and Haggerty
Roads in Walled Lake Michigan on the Opening Day of the Lenore Marwil Jewish
Film Festival.

The Opening Day Movie is the "Tree of Life".

There is a charge of $18.00 for the Bagel and Coffee Session, which
includes a ticket to the movie, and a deductible donation to the Jewish
Genealogical Society of Michigan. For further information about this event
go to www.jgsmi.org, email programs@..., or call 1-248-496-1324.

The Tree of Life, a remarkable film of great beauty and substance, begins
with Hava Volterra recalling how one day, speaking with her father she
thought that he sounded old. She wanted him to go and visit, Italy, the
land of his birth. Unfortunately her father died before the trip could be made.

Hava takes the trip her father could not make.
Volterra shows us a life lived by a man who thought himself a failure.

But she discovers surprises as she shakes the family tree; bankers, a
prime minister, a famous American politician,etc.

Hava Volterra's trip to the ancestral land teaches us how to see what has
been in front of us all the time.

This is a remarkable Opening Day Movie


Judith Koenig Fox
West Bloomfield, Michigan
Vice-President, Publicity JGSMI
publicity@...
juditomfox1@...


April 27: Jewish Outposts: Jews in Alaska and Adventures You Might Enjoy #general

janicemsj@...
 

San Francisco Bay Area JGS Meeting

Monday, April 27, 2009
Congregation Beth Am Room 5/6
26790 Arastradero Road
Los Altos Hills, CA 94022
Doors open 7:00 p.m., program begins 7:30 p.m.

Topic: Jewish Outposts: Jews in Alaska and Adventures You Might Enjoy*
Speakers: Jerry Delson and Janet Mohr

Starting in 1995, Jerry took advantage of regular business trips to
Alaska to pursue his interest in genealogy wherever he might be. In
Anchorage, he attended conferences of the Anchorage Genealogical
Society and presented genealogy workshops for Congregation Beth
Sholom. He has enjoyed contacts with Jews in Sitka and in Fairbanks
and will describe Fairbanks=92 star attraction, the Summer Arts
Festival. For the first time, this summer the festival will offer a
course in Jewish choral music.

In 1952, Janet Mohr was starting high school when her family moved to
Anchorage. She learned about growing up Jewish in Alaska, and her
parents, originally >from Vienna, took an active role in Anchorage=92s
cultural life. Graduate studies at Stanford brought Janet to the Bay
Area, but she continues to have close ties with her friends in
Anchorage.

Attendance is free. All are welcome to attend.

*Note: Previously scheduled program has been changed.

Janice Sellers, Publicity Director
San Francisco Bay Area JGS
http://www.sfbajgs.org/


Family History Show in London UK on Sunday 3 May 2009 #general

Jeanette R Rosenberg OBE
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain (JGSGB) will have a
stand at the Family History Show taking place at The Barbican in
London UK on Sunday 3 May 2009 where we will be selling our own
publications and will be providing members of the public with on the
spot advice and information about Jewish genealogy.

Over 80 genealogical organisations will be present and The Family
History Event offers an ideal opportunity to explore and ask
questions, as well as to see what is on offer for your own research!

Tickets can be purchased on-line at http://www.thefhevent.com/ they
are £8 in advance or £10 each at the door. The show is organised on a
not for profit basis.

Jeanette Rosenberg - JGSGB Stand Manager
London UK
email: jeanette.r.rosenberg@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Family History Show in London UK on Sunday 3 May 2009 #general

Jeanette R Rosenberg OBE
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain (JGSGB) will have a
stand at the Family History Show taking place at The Barbican in
London UK on Sunday 3 May 2009 where we will be selling our own
publications and will be providing members of the public with on the
spot advice and information about Jewish genealogy.

Over 80 genealogical organisations will be present and The Family
History Event offers an ideal opportunity to explore and ask
questions, as well as to see what is on offer for your own research!

Tickets can be purchased on-line at http://www.thefhevent.com/ they
are £8 in advance or £10 each at the door. The show is organised on a
not for profit basis.

Jeanette Rosenberg - JGSGB Stand Manager
London UK
email: jeanette.r.rosenberg@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen April 27: Jewish Outposts: Jews in Alaska and Adventures You Might Enjoy #general

janicemsj@...
 

San Francisco Bay Area JGS Meeting

Monday, April 27, 2009
Congregation Beth Am Room 5/6
26790 Arastradero Road
Los Altos Hills, CA 94022
Doors open 7:00 p.m., program begins 7:30 p.m.

Topic: Jewish Outposts: Jews in Alaska and Adventures You Might Enjoy*
Speakers: Jerry Delson and Janet Mohr

Starting in 1995, Jerry took advantage of regular business trips to
Alaska to pursue his interest in genealogy wherever he might be. In
Anchorage, he attended conferences of the Anchorage Genealogical
Society and presented genealogy workshops for Congregation Beth
Sholom. He has enjoyed contacts with Jews in Sitka and in Fairbanks
and will describe Fairbanks=92 star attraction, the Summer Arts
Festival. For the first time, this summer the festival will offer a
course in Jewish choral music.

In 1952, Janet Mohr was starting high school when her family moved to
Anchorage. She learned about growing up Jewish in Alaska, and her
parents, originally >from Vienna, took an active role in Anchorage=92s
cultural life. Graduate studies at Stanford brought Janet to the Bay
Area, but she continues to have close ties with her friends in
Anchorage.

Attendance is free. All are welcome to attend.

*Note: Previously scheduled program has been changed.

Janice Sellers, Publicity Director
San Francisco Bay Area JGS
http://www.sfbajgs.org/


Grojec, Poland #general

Liz Miller <lizdmiller@...>
 

Hello,

My maternal ancestors are >from Grojec/Gritse, Poland.
I am doing some research on the area and would like
to obtain information on life in this area between
1880-1910.

I would appreciate any suggestions on the best
source for me to find this information.

Sincerely,

Liz Ruderman Miller
lizdmiller@...
Northridge, CA

researching HILLER, BORNSTEIN and HOFFNUNG


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Grojec, Poland #general

Liz Miller <lizdmiller@...>
 

Hello,

My maternal ancestors are >from Grojec/Gritse, Poland.
I am doing some research on the area and would like
to obtain information on life in this area between
1880-1910.

I would appreciate any suggestions on the best
source for me to find this information.

Sincerely,

Liz Ruderman Miller
lizdmiller@...
Northridge, CA

researching HILLER, BORNSTEIN and HOFFNUNG


TV - The Courageous Heart of Irena Sendler #general

david rubin <dovrubin1@...>
 

Hello,

The Courageous Heart of Irena Sendler will be airing on CBS
Sunday, April 19, 9:00pm ET/PT

Polish social worker Irena Sendler saves thousands of Jewish children during World
War II.

For Details See:

www.cbs.com/specials/courageous_heart/

Sincerely,
David Rubin and Mrs. Rubin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen TV - The Courageous Heart of Irena Sendler #general

david rubin <dovrubin1@...>
 

Hello,

The Courageous Heart of Irena Sendler will be airing on CBS
Sunday, April 19, 9:00pm ET/PT

Polish social worker Irena Sendler saves thousands of Jewish children during World
War II.

For Details See:

www.cbs.com/specials/courageous_heart/

Sincerely,
David Rubin and Mrs. Rubin


looking for Franz or Rachella MENZEL or their children, probably in Australia #germany

Tom Heinersdorff <tom.heinersdorff@...>
 

Thanks to Celia Male's news to JewishGenners that the National Archives of
Australia has announced 200,000 new arrivals to the index of passenger
arrivals, which now covers >from 1921 to January 1950 at
http://www.naa.gov.au/ , I was able to find out what happened to my mother's
cousin Franz MENZEL, but I would like to contact him or his children if he
is still alive.

I knew that Franz had left Vienna and found work in the UK before the war as
a draughtsman, living in Slough, and that his parents, having visited Franz
in the UK in the summer of 1938, returned to their supposed refuge in
Luxembourg at the end of August 1938. As late as April 1940, my mother and
Franz had been in correspondence and my mother remembers that Franz had gone
to Australia with his newly-wed wife.

But the documentation at the NAA revealed that, having achieved promotion to
"Product Engineer" Franz was interned in June 1940 and sent to Australia via
the infamous SS Dunera in July-September 1940. After a year being marched
and trained around internment camps (Tatura, Hay, Loveday, Liverpool") in 3
states of Australia he was released and returned to the UK in
October-November 1941. He might have learned on his return that his parents,
Theodor MENZEL and Irma MENZEL n=E9e RECHNITZER had been deported from
Luxembourg 1 week after he began his return voyage. Theo and Irma's fate was
wrongly recorded, and so the Holocaust databases have them as "Theodor and
Irma Menzei, based on a Deportation list, found in the L'Etoile juive au
Luxembourg, Paul Cerf, RTL-Edition 1986=94. While his parents were to die in
Lodz ghetto, Franz married Rachella HOFFMANN and together they went back to
live in Australia in 1947. Rachella=92s application for registration proudly
announces that on this occasion they travelled by Pan American Airways
"Clipper Oriental" arriving on 27 August 1947.

My 94-year-old mother would love to be able to contact Franz or Rachella or
their children, but I have found 218 Menzels in the Australian telephone
directory and the single F. Menzel whom I telephoned turned out not to be
Franz or his son.

Data protection measures appear to block access to recent
births/deaths/marriages, so unless a reader of this posting contacts me to
tell me where I might find Franz or Rachella MENZEL or their children, this
may be the end of my research for a few years yet, possibly too long for my
mother.

"Tom Heinersdorff" <tom.heinersdorff@...> London UK
researching
CHAT Neu Rausnitz/Rousinov & Budapest (Czech Republic & Hungary)
RECHNITZER K=F6rmend & Graz (Hungary & Austria)
STRASSMANN Graz (Austria) NEUMANN Graz & Vienna (Austria)
COHNER Graz & Vienna (Austria) HEINERSDORFF Breslau/Wroclaw (Poland)
FRIEDLAENDER Berlin (Germany) SCHULSKE Potsdam (Germany)
FRANZ Berlin (Germany) BOLTE Laufendreen & Dortmund (Westfalen, Germany)
EPSELO(H) Rahe (Westfalen, Germany) GOEHRING Calbe(Sachsen Anhalt)
JUNNEROTH Calbe (Sachsen Anhalt, Germany)


German SIG #Germany looking for Franz or Rachella MENZEL or their children, probably in Australia #germany

Tom Heinersdorff <tom.heinersdorff@...>
 

Thanks to Celia Male's news to JewishGenners that the National Archives of
Australia has announced 200,000 new arrivals to the index of passenger
arrivals, which now covers >from 1921 to January 1950 at
http://www.naa.gov.au/ , I was able to find out what happened to my mother's
cousin Franz MENZEL, but I would like to contact him or his children if he
is still alive.

I knew that Franz had left Vienna and found work in the UK before the war as
a draughtsman, living in Slough, and that his parents, having visited Franz
in the UK in the summer of 1938, returned to their supposed refuge in
Luxembourg at the end of August 1938. As late as April 1940, my mother and
Franz had been in correspondence and my mother remembers that Franz had gone
to Australia with his newly-wed wife.

But the documentation at the NAA revealed that, having achieved promotion to
"Product Engineer" Franz was interned in June 1940 and sent to Australia via
the infamous SS Dunera in July-September 1940. After a year being marched
and trained around internment camps (Tatura, Hay, Loveday, Liverpool") in 3
states of Australia he was released and returned to the UK in
October-November 1941. He might have learned on his return that his parents,
Theodor MENZEL and Irma MENZEL n=E9e RECHNITZER had been deported from
Luxembourg 1 week after he began his return voyage. Theo and Irma's fate was
wrongly recorded, and so the Holocaust databases have them as "Theodor and
Irma Menzei, based on a Deportation list, found in the L'Etoile juive au
Luxembourg, Paul Cerf, RTL-Edition 1986=94. While his parents were to die in
Lodz ghetto, Franz married Rachella HOFFMANN and together they went back to
live in Australia in 1947. Rachella=92s application for registration proudly
announces that on this occasion they travelled by Pan American Airways
"Clipper Oriental" arriving on 27 August 1947.

My 94-year-old mother would love to be able to contact Franz or Rachella or
their children, but I have found 218 Menzels in the Australian telephone
directory and the single F. Menzel whom I telephoned turned out not to be
Franz or his son.

Data protection measures appear to block access to recent
births/deaths/marriages, so unless a reader of this posting contacts me to
tell me where I might find Franz or Rachella MENZEL or their children, this
may be the end of my research for a few years yet, possibly too long for my
mother.

"Tom Heinersdorff" <tom.heinersdorff@...> London UK
researching
CHAT Neu Rausnitz/Rousinov & Budapest (Czech Republic & Hungary)
RECHNITZER K=F6rmend & Graz (Hungary & Austria)
STRASSMANN Graz (Austria) NEUMANN Graz & Vienna (Austria)
COHNER Graz & Vienna (Austria) HEINERSDORFF Breslau/Wroclaw (Poland)
FRIEDLAENDER Berlin (Germany) SCHULSKE Potsdam (Germany)
FRANZ Berlin (Germany) BOLTE Laufendreen & Dortmund (Westfalen, Germany)
EPSELO(H) Rahe (Westfalen, Germany) GOEHRING Calbe(Sachsen Anhalt)
JUNNEROTH Calbe (Sachsen Anhalt, Germany)


David OHLBAUM and Rose COHN #hungary

Nancy Zimmerman <futurehope0819@...>
 

From: Nancy Zimmerman <futurehope0819@...>
Subject: David Ohlbaum Rose Cohn
To: h-sig@...
Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 2:39 PM
Hi! I just received my great grandfather's death
certificate >from New York City. Benjamin Ohlbaum died in
1928. He said he was >from Hungary, but sometimes, in the
censes, he wrote Austria. He spoke German. He was born abt
1846 and emigrated to NY in 1887. His death certificate
states his parents are >from Hungary.
His Mom: Rose Cohn
His Dad: David Ohlbaum
The above two great great grandparents of mine probably
lived in the 1820's through 1840's. Does anyone on
H-SIG know of Rose or David above? I'm really wanting
to know WHERE in Hungary these two are from? Thanks in
advance,futurehope0819@...
Moderator: Have you checked JewishGen's Family Finder and All Hungary Database
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/hungary/? The name OHLBAUM and variants shows
up in several places including Debrecen and Sarospatak. The JGFF also lists two
other people searching for OHLBAUM variants in Hungary.


Hungary SIG #Hungary David OHLBAUM and Rose COHN #hungary

Nancy Zimmerman <futurehope0819@...>
 

From: Nancy Zimmerman <futurehope0819@...>
Subject: David Ohlbaum Rose Cohn
To: h-sig@...
Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 2:39 PM
Hi! I just received my great grandfather's death
certificate >from New York City. Benjamin Ohlbaum died in
1928. He said he was >from Hungary, but sometimes, in the
censes, he wrote Austria. He spoke German. He was born abt
1846 and emigrated to NY in 1887. His death certificate
states his parents are >from Hungary.
His Mom: Rose Cohn
His Dad: David Ohlbaum
The above two great great grandparents of mine probably
lived in the 1820's through 1840's. Does anyone on
H-SIG know of Rose or David above? I'm really wanting
to know WHERE in Hungary these two are from? Thanks in
advance,futurehope0819@...
Moderator: Have you checked JewishGen's Family Finder and All Hungary Database
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/hungary/? The name OHLBAUM and variants shows
up in several places including Debrecen and Sarospatak. The JGFF also lists two
other people searching for OHLBAUM variants in Hungary.


REINITZ Family or families of Nagykanizsa #hungary

Omri Arnon <omri@...>
 

Dear Group,

I hope I can get your opinions as to how strong is the connection between
information I got >from an obituary found in the Familysearch obituary pilot
to other bits of information I found. This could solve many questions I have
about seemingly unrelated people named REINITZ >from Nagykanizsa (NK) to my
REINITZ family. To make this email readable, I will present below only the
details relevant to my questions.

Prior to finding the obituary I had the following unrelated bits of
information about people the REINITZ family/families:

1. Peter REINITZ (My GGGGF) born in 1780/2 died probably around 1819/20. The
first document I have about his living in NK is >from 1811. His son Dr.
Ignacz REINITZ, born in NK in 1807 and died in Budapest in 1900, and was
married to Hermina and later to Kunigunda. Peter and his wife Regina had at
least 2 children (in the tax registers they mention only a son and
adaughter).
2. Sigmund REINITZ arrived to Pest in 1828 >from NK, was employed in a
textile factory in Budapest and registered himself there in 1837, 1845.
Assuming Sigmund was at least 18 to 20 when moving to Budapest he was born
in 1808-1810.
3. Albert REINITZ born in NK in 1803/4 and died in 1882. In the 1848 census
he is registered as 44 years old, married to Cecilia and has 5 children
among them Paulina.
4. Paulina REINITZ, daughter of Albert and Cecilia, born in NK in 1835 (was
13 in 1848).
5. Lovi REINITZ, born in NK in 1820, registered independently in the 1848
census as 28 years old. As far as I found in sources, Lovi is a male.

While all the above bits of information were unrelated, I found in the
obituary with the help of Celia Male, the following relevant bits of
information:

"Caroline nee MAY... hereby announces...the death of her dearly-beloved
husband Sigmund REINITZ... who died...on 29th September 1872 (i.e. was born
in 1808) in Pest in his 64th year..." Among the mourning people mentioned in
the Obit are:
Sigmund's siblings: Rosa {married name EISLER}, Albert, Ignatz, Lovy.
Sigmund's sister-in-law: Pauline REINITZ nee REINITZ (she must be married to
one of the brothers, Albert, Ignaz or Lovy and must be a cousin too)

My question is: considering there is no documented connection between the
people in obituary and the people mentioned above, is it possible to
ascertain that these are the same people? would it be safe to assume that
Albert's daughter Paulina married her uncle Lovy REINITZ? It seems a pretty
certain guess that they are all connected (even though the 1818 tax
registers contradict that) but I would appreciate your opinion before I
"carve in stone" (my computerized family tree) that Rosa, Albert and Lovi
are Peter's children and my GGGF Ignacz's sister and brothers.

Thank you,

Omri Arnon
Israel


Hungary SIG #Hungary REINITZ Family or families of Nagykanizsa #hungary

Omri Arnon <omri@...>
 

Dear Group,

I hope I can get your opinions as to how strong is the connection between
information I got >from an obituary found in the Familysearch obituary pilot
to other bits of information I found. This could solve many questions I have
about seemingly unrelated people named REINITZ >from Nagykanizsa (NK) to my
REINITZ family. To make this email readable, I will present below only the
details relevant to my questions.

Prior to finding the obituary I had the following unrelated bits of
information about people the REINITZ family/families:

1. Peter REINITZ (My GGGGF) born in 1780/2 died probably around 1819/20. The
first document I have about his living in NK is >from 1811. His son Dr.
Ignacz REINITZ, born in NK in 1807 and died in Budapest in 1900, and was
married to Hermina and later to Kunigunda. Peter and his wife Regina had at
least 2 children (in the tax registers they mention only a son and
adaughter).
2. Sigmund REINITZ arrived to Pest in 1828 >from NK, was employed in a
textile factory in Budapest and registered himself there in 1837, 1845.
Assuming Sigmund was at least 18 to 20 when moving to Budapest he was born
in 1808-1810.
3. Albert REINITZ born in NK in 1803/4 and died in 1882. In the 1848 census
he is registered as 44 years old, married to Cecilia and has 5 children
among them Paulina.
4. Paulina REINITZ, daughter of Albert and Cecilia, born in NK in 1835 (was
13 in 1848).
5. Lovi REINITZ, born in NK in 1820, registered independently in the 1848
census as 28 years old. As far as I found in sources, Lovi is a male.

While all the above bits of information were unrelated, I found in the
obituary with the help of Celia Male, the following relevant bits of
information:

"Caroline nee MAY... hereby announces...the death of her dearly-beloved
husband Sigmund REINITZ... who died...on 29th September 1872 (i.e. was born
in 1808) in Pest in his 64th year..." Among the mourning people mentioned in
the Obit are:
Sigmund's siblings: Rosa {married name EISLER}, Albert, Ignatz, Lovy.
Sigmund's sister-in-law: Pauline REINITZ nee REINITZ (she must be married to
one of the brothers, Albert, Ignaz or Lovy and must be a cousin too)

My question is: considering there is no documented connection between the
people in obituary and the people mentioned above, is it possible to
ascertain that these are the same people? would it be safe to assume that
Albert's daughter Paulina married her uncle Lovy REINITZ? It seems a pretty
certain guess that they are all connected (even though the 1818 tax
registers contradict that) but I would appreciate your opinion before I
"carve in stone" (my computerized family tree) that Rosa, Albert and Lovi
are Peter's children and my GGGF Ignacz's sister and brothers.

Thank you,

Omri Arnon
Israel