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family name SUCHARENKO #general

Michael Sklaroff
 

Dear Geners,

I thought I'd ask another question, this one about one of the names I've been
researching: SUCHARENKO. In my family, three SKLAROFF brothers married three
Sucharenko sisters. It's an identifying feature of our family, and my
great-grandparents were one of those three couples. But I've started to wonder
about this name, Sucharenko. I've never come across anyone else with that name.

When doing a Google search, most of the items produced are either in German or in
what I presume to be Ukrainian or Russian. Google also suggests the variaton
"Sukharenko." And I note that the late American actress, Natalie Wood, was born
"Natalia Zacharenko." This seems like another variation of the same name.

If anyone with knowledge of Ukrainian or Russian could provide some insight here,
I'd love to know more.

Thanks for your help.

Michael Sklaroff.
Researching: Sklaroff, Sklerov, Sucharenko, Bletter, Shenker.


Re: Is Fannie/Fanny a Nickname? #general

news@...
 

craspler@bellsouth.net (Carol Raspler) writes:
I I don't think I've seen too many Fanny(s) being listed on the passenger
manifests >from Europe, but it was a most popular name for Jewish ladies
new to the United States >from before the turn of the 20th c. Would it have
represented a "Yankee" version of Frances? or Feige? or Fruma? etc.
Fanny or Fannie is a diminutive of Frances. It was a very popular name among
non-Jews in the United States in the 19th century. Jews who adopted this name
might have used it to replace a Yiddish name starting with the F sound, likely
Feiga, Frayda, Fruma or their variants, or something completely unrelated.

Robert Israel israel@math.MyUniversitysInitials.ca
University of British Columbia Vancouver, BC, Canada


Searching Descendants of Schluma & Batya KAHANOV In Israel #general

SANDI ROOT
 

Searching for descendants of Schluma & Batya KAHANOV/KAHANOFF, probably in Israel.
They quite possibly are actually the family I have been searching as COHEN/KAHAN/
KAGAN. They would have known the Rose & Hyman BANUS/BENNISH family in Lithuania and
England (ca 1890-1950-ish), especially their son, a renowned London accountant,
Mark BANUS, his 1st wife, Annie (dec. 1932), and 2nd wife, Sophie, and his
daughters, Nancy, Joan, and Brenda.

The relationship to the KAHANOV/KAHANOFFs would be through Rose(COHEN/KAHAN/KAGAN)
BANUS/BENNISH (above). Her father was Abraham Isaac. Her known siblings are: Brayna
Rivka (Rebecca) (London & Chicago), Sarah (my grandmother) (London, Chicago & Los
Angeles), Malech, and an unknown brother(South Africa), Ida (Chicago), Julius, and
Willy (Brooklyn, NY).

Family lore has it that additional members of the COHEN/KAHAN/KAGAN family went to
Montreal, Canada, and Australia.

I hope this material is familiar to someone in the KAHANOV/KAHANOFF family.

Sandi Root
Bulverde, Texas
roadrunr2usa.net

Searching:
BADESCH, BANUS /BENESH /BENESCH /BENIS /BENNITZ /BENITEZ /BENNISH /BEINASH
/BEINASHOWITZ, BECKERMAN, BLOCK/BLOCH, BLUMENTHAL/BLUM, BRODY,COHEN/KAHAN/KAGAN,
EICHEL, FRIEDLEN, FRIEDMAN, GALINA, GOLD, GREENBERG,GUTKOWSKY/GOOD, HARWICK, HERRE,
JACOBSON, KAHAN/KAGAN/COHEN, KRIZANSKI,LIEBOVITCH, MENDELSON, MICHELSON, NIDER,
OFFMAN/HOFFMAN, PETERS, PISER,ROTHCHILD, SCHNEIDERMAN/SNYDERMAN, SUVALKER/SUVALSKI,
WHATLEY, ZIVETZ


Re: Fannie/Fanny a Nickname #general

Jules Levin
 

Evelyn Filippi wrote:
I found that the name Fannie was modern for Fremzie in 2 relatives of mine.
I just googled Russian sites for the name Fanya. To sum up: Faina [3 syllables]
Derived >from Greek "being manifested, shining" Derived forms [nicknames]: Fainka,
Faya, Fayushka, Fanya, Falya, Fasya, Ina

This site gives standard mythological/astrological associations for the name;
nothing Jewish. But the only prominent Faina mentioned is the great actress Faina
Grigor'evna Ranevskaya, who it turns out had the real name Faina Fel'dman.

A Russian Jewish name site: Fanya is an Ashkenazi woman's name ["one may consider
it completely Jewish"], but without Hebrew antecedent. Suggests influence of
surrounding non-Jewish culture.

Clearly Fannie was anglicized >from Fanya by Jewish immigrants.

Jules Levin
Los Angeles


Re: Is Fannie/Fanny a Nickname? #general

henry
 

My gggrandmother was born Vogel (in Holland) and known as Fanny in England.

Henry Best,
London

Carol Raspler wrote:
Would it have represented a "Yankee" version of Frances? or Feige? or Fruma?etc.
MODERATOR NOTE: There is no one correct answer to Carol's question, as have been
noted in this thread, the are many reasons for someone to be known as "Fanny".
Check the JewishGen Given Names database for more information
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/search.htm


Re: Is Fannie/Fanny a Nickname? #general

Vivian Kahn <viviankahn@...>
 

Fani is a very common Hungarian female name. Check the All Hungary Database for
Given Name is Exactly Fani and thousands of records will be identified. Feiga is
probably the most frequent Yiddish version but Frimka also shows up in my records.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
Hungarian SIG Coordinator

From: "Carol Raspler" <craspler@bellsouth.net>
I I don't think I've seen too many Fanny(s) being listed on the passenger
manifests >from Europe, but it was a most popular name for Jewish ladies new to
the United States >from before the turn of the 20th c. Would it have represented
a "Yankee" version of Frances? or Feige? or Fruma? etc.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen family name SUCHARENKO #general

Michael Sklaroff
 

Dear Geners,

I thought I'd ask another question, this one about one of the names I've been
researching: SUCHARENKO. In my family, three SKLAROFF brothers married three
Sucharenko sisters. It's an identifying feature of our family, and my
great-grandparents were one of those three couples. But I've started to wonder
about this name, Sucharenko. I've never come across anyone else with that name.

When doing a Google search, most of the items produced are either in German or in
what I presume to be Ukrainian or Russian. Google also suggests the variaton
"Sukharenko." And I note that the late American actress, Natalie Wood, was born
"Natalia Zacharenko." This seems like another variation of the same name.

If anyone with knowledge of Ukrainian or Russian could provide some insight here,
I'd love to know more.

Thanks for your help.

Michael Sklaroff.
Researching: Sklaroff, Sklerov, Sucharenko, Bletter, Shenker.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Is Fannie/Fanny a Nickname? #general

news@...
 

craspler@bellsouth.net (Carol Raspler) writes:
I I don't think I've seen too many Fanny(s) being listed on the passenger
manifests >from Europe, but it was a most popular name for Jewish ladies
new to the United States >from before the turn of the 20th c. Would it have
represented a "Yankee" version of Frances? or Feige? or Fruma? etc.
Fanny or Fannie is a diminutive of Frances. It was a very popular name among
non-Jews in the United States in the 19th century. Jews who adopted this name
might have used it to replace a Yiddish name starting with the F sound, likely
Feiga, Frayda, Fruma or their variants, or something completely unrelated.

Robert Israel israel@math.MyUniversitysInitials.ca
University of British Columbia Vancouver, BC, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching Descendants of Schluma & Batya KAHANOV In Israel #general

SANDI ROOT
 

Searching for descendants of Schluma & Batya KAHANOV/KAHANOFF, probably in Israel.
They quite possibly are actually the family I have been searching as COHEN/KAHAN/
KAGAN. They would have known the Rose & Hyman BANUS/BENNISH family in Lithuania and
England (ca 1890-1950-ish), especially their son, a renowned London accountant,
Mark BANUS, his 1st wife, Annie (dec. 1932), and 2nd wife, Sophie, and his
daughters, Nancy, Joan, and Brenda.

The relationship to the KAHANOV/KAHANOFFs would be through Rose(COHEN/KAHAN/KAGAN)
BANUS/BENNISH (above). Her father was Abraham Isaac. Her known siblings are: Brayna
Rivka (Rebecca) (London & Chicago), Sarah (my grandmother) (London, Chicago & Los
Angeles), Malech, and an unknown brother(South Africa), Ida (Chicago), Julius, and
Willy (Brooklyn, NY).

Family lore has it that additional members of the COHEN/KAHAN/KAGAN family went to
Montreal, Canada, and Australia.

I hope this material is familiar to someone in the KAHANOV/KAHANOFF family.

Sandi Root
Bulverde, Texas
roadrunr2usa.net

Searching:
BADESCH, BANUS /BENESH /BENESCH /BENIS /BENNITZ /BENITEZ /BENNISH /BEINASH
/BEINASHOWITZ, BECKERMAN, BLOCK/BLOCH, BLUMENTHAL/BLUM, BRODY,COHEN/KAHAN/KAGAN,
EICHEL, FRIEDLEN, FRIEDMAN, GALINA, GOLD, GREENBERG,GUTKOWSKY/GOOD, HARWICK, HERRE,
JACOBSON, KAHAN/KAGAN/COHEN, KRIZANSKI,LIEBOVITCH, MENDELSON, MICHELSON, NIDER,
OFFMAN/HOFFMAN, PETERS, PISER,ROTHCHILD, SCHNEIDERMAN/SNYDERMAN, SUVALKER/SUVALSKI,
WHATLEY, ZIVETZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Fannie/Fanny a Nickname #general

Jules Levin
 

Evelyn Filippi wrote:
I found that the name Fannie was modern for Fremzie in 2 relatives of mine.
I just googled Russian sites for the name Fanya. To sum up: Faina [3 syllables]
Derived >from Greek "being manifested, shining" Derived forms [nicknames]: Fainka,
Faya, Fayushka, Fanya, Falya, Fasya, Ina

This site gives standard mythological/astrological associations for the name;
nothing Jewish. But the only prominent Faina mentioned is the great actress Faina
Grigor'evna Ranevskaya, who it turns out had the real name Faina Fel'dman.

A Russian Jewish name site: Fanya is an Ashkenazi woman's name ["one may consider
it completely Jewish"], but without Hebrew antecedent. Suggests influence of
surrounding non-Jewish culture.

Clearly Fannie was anglicized >from Fanya by Jewish immigrants.

Jules Levin
Los Angeles


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Is Fannie/Fanny a Nickname? #general

henry
 

My gggrandmother was born Vogel (in Holland) and known as Fanny in England.

Henry Best,
London

Carol Raspler wrote:
Would it have represented a "Yankee" version of Frances? or Feige? or Fruma?etc.
MODERATOR NOTE: There is no one correct answer to Carol's question, as have been
noted in this thread, the are many reasons for someone to be known as "Fanny".
Check the JewishGen Given Names database for more information
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/search.htm


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Is Fannie/Fanny a Nickname? #general

Vivian Kahn <viviankahn@...>
 

Fani is a very common Hungarian female name. Check the All Hungary Database for
Given Name is Exactly Fani and thousands of records will be identified. Feiga is
probably the most frequent Yiddish version but Frimka also shows up in my records.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
Hungarian SIG Coordinator

From: "Carol Raspler" <craspler@bellsouth.net>
I I don't think I've seen too many Fanny(s) being listed on the passenger
manifests >from Europe, but it was a most popular name for Jewish ladies new to
the United States >from before the turn of the 20th c. Would it have represented
a "Yankee" version of Frances? or Feige? or Fruma? etc.


Prisoner of the Boers #southafrica

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

I found an interesting 1907 listing for the following person which mentions
his imprisonment during the Second Boer War:

Rev. Mark L. Harris, Minister, Doornfontein Congregation. Founder of first
South Africa Chevra Kadisha at Kimberley, of Jewish Schools, Johannesburg,
and of the Doornfontein Synagogue. Taken prisoner by the Boers, August,
1900. Educated at Jews' Free School, and has served in various English and
South African congregations. Address.-113, Sivewright-avenue, New
Doornfontein.

Hope this is of interest.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Prisoner of the Boers #southafrica

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

I found an interesting 1907 listing for the following person which mentions
his imprisonment during the Second Boer War:

Rev. Mark L. Harris, Minister, Doornfontein Congregation. Founder of first
South Africa Chevra Kadisha at Kimberley, of Jewish Schools, Johannesburg,
and of the Doornfontein Synagogue. Taken prisoner by the Boers, August,
1900. Educated at Jews' Free School, and has served in various English and
South African congregations. Address.-113, Sivewright-avenue, New
Doornfontein.

Hope this is of interest.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


R. Dov Ber ben Sheftil and R. Shmuel ben Dov Ber of Plunge - Also Balbieriskis #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

< From: Sandra shula2933@gmail.com
I am seeking information & would also like to hear >from researchers
& relatives of Rabbi Dov Ber ben Sheftil who was ABD (Head rabbinical
court) of Plunge & surrounding areas in Lithuania first half 18th
century and who is said to have had a son R. Shmuel of Plunge. R.
Shmuel was said to be the father of: R. Ze'ev Wolf, R. Natan Neta of
Druya, R.Yitzchak, R. Yisrael Rittenberg, Tyckocinsky/Tiktin, Goldstein,
Rosenblat, Pearlstein (Balbieriskis); >

For those interested in Plunge records, I suggest you contact Deena Berton
- deena.berton@gmail.com - the District Coordinator for the Telsiai
District which includes Plunge.

A tremendous amount of Plunge records of all types have been translated and
are available. That not only includes district records but also includes
vital records as well as Internal Passport records for the Telsiai district.
Not all of these records are in the All Lithuania Database (ALD) yet . Also,
receiving an Excel spreadsheet containing the records is far more
advantageous than searching a database.

Howard Margol
Coordinator - LitvakSIG Records Acquisition


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania R. Dov Ber ben Sheftil and R. Shmuel ben Dov Ber of Plunge - Also Balbieriskis #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

< From: Sandra shula2933@gmail.com
I am seeking information & would also like to hear >from researchers
& relatives of Rabbi Dov Ber ben Sheftil who was ABD (Head rabbinical
court) of Plunge & surrounding areas in Lithuania first half 18th
century and who is said to have had a son R. Shmuel of Plunge. R.
Shmuel was said to be the father of: R. Ze'ev Wolf, R. Natan Neta of
Druya, R.Yitzchak, R. Yisrael Rittenberg, Tyckocinsky/Tiktin, Goldstein,
Rosenblat, Pearlstein (Balbieriskis); >

For those interested in Plunge records, I suggest you contact Deena Berton
- deena.berton@gmail.com - the District Coordinator for the Telsiai
District which includes Plunge.

A tremendous amount of Plunge records of all types have been translated and
are available. That not only includes district records but also includes
vital records as well as Internal Passport records for the Telsiai district.
Not all of these records are in the All Lithuania Database (ALD) yet . Also,
receiving an Excel spreadsheet containing the records is far more
advantageous than searching a database.

Howard Margol
Coordinator - LitvakSIG Records Acquisition


Requesting photos of graves #unitedkingdom

Judith Elam
 

I would be very grateful if some kind person could take a photo of the
graves of my relatives, as follows: my grandfather, Peisech MENDZIGURSKY,
who is buried at Phillips Park Cemetery, Whitefield, Machzikei Hadass
Synagogue section. He died April 27, 1962. His grave location is M2. The
phone number is 0161-792-1313.

Also, my aunt, Margo FREEDMAN, who is buried at Rainsough Cemetery,
Prestwich, Heaton Park section. She died January 12, 1959. Her grave
location is # 16. The phone number is 0161-737-0947, Kevin CROWLEY, sexton.

Thank you very much! If anyone knew my relatives, I would very much like to
hear >from them too. Please e-mail me directly at

elamj@hawaii.rr.com

Judith Elam
Kihei, Hawaii, USA

Researching: WEISS, NATHAN, HAHN, ITZIG, COHN (all >from Berlin), LEWY
(Neustrelitz & Berlin) SCHWARZ (Kosten) FISCHEL (Czempin), any MENDZIGURSKY,
WIENER (Toporow, Poloniczna, Kamionka), MARDENFELD (Toporow, USA), TENENBAUM
(Toporow, USA), any HASENLAUF, WEISS (Poloniczna, Kamionka), BOOKBINDER,
BOWMAN (Manchester UK), HORN (Leipzig, Poland), STUEMLER (Leipzig, Berlin)


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Requesting photos of graves #unitedkingdom

Judith Elam
 

I would be very grateful if some kind person could take a photo of the
graves of my relatives, as follows: my grandfather, Peisech MENDZIGURSKY,
who is buried at Phillips Park Cemetery, Whitefield, Machzikei Hadass
Synagogue section. He died April 27, 1962. His grave location is M2. The
phone number is 0161-792-1313.

Also, my aunt, Margo FREEDMAN, who is buried at Rainsough Cemetery,
Prestwich, Heaton Park section. She died January 12, 1959. Her grave
location is # 16. The phone number is 0161-737-0947, Kevin CROWLEY, sexton.

Thank you very much! If anyone knew my relatives, I would very much like to
hear >from them too. Please e-mail me directly at

elamj@hawaii.rr.com

Judith Elam
Kihei, Hawaii, USA

Researching: WEISS, NATHAN, HAHN, ITZIG, COHN (all >from Berlin), LEWY
(Neustrelitz & Berlin) SCHWARZ (Kosten) FISCHEL (Czempin), any MENDZIGURSKY,
WIENER (Toporow, Poloniczna, Kamionka), MARDENFELD (Toporow, USA), TENENBAUM
(Toporow, USA), any HASENLAUF, WEISS (Poloniczna, Kamionka), BOOKBINDER,
BOWMAN (Manchester UK), HORN (Leipzig, Poland), STUEMLER (Leipzig, Berlin)


MARRIAGE ACTS ENGLAND AND IRELAND #unitedkingdom

annrab@...
 

I happened upon a reference in the 1907 Jewish Year Book which was published
in London to Marriage Acts relating to England and Ireland which may be of
interest to researchers as follows:

1844 - 7 & 9 Vic. cap. 81. An Act for Marriages in Ireland.
Sect. 12. Jews may contract marriages according to their usages, provided
they give notice to the Registrar and obtain his certificate.
Sect. 13. Jewish Registrars to be certified by the President of Jewish
Board of Deputies.

1847 - 10 & 11 Vic. cap. 58. An Act to remove Doubts as to Quakers' and
Jews' Marriages, solemnized before certain periods.

Declares all marriages amongst Jews solemnized in England before April 1,
1837, or in Ireland before April 1, 1845, according to their usages, are
good in law, if both parties were Jews.

Hope this is of interest to those researching relatives in England or
Ireland.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom MARRIAGE ACTS ENGLAND AND IRELAND #unitedkingdom

annrab@...
 

I happened upon a reference in the 1907 Jewish Year Book which was published
in London to Marriage Acts relating to England and Ireland which may be of
interest to researchers as follows:

1844 - 7 & 9 Vic. cap. 81. An Act for Marriages in Ireland.
Sect. 12. Jews may contract marriages according to their usages, provided
they give notice to the Registrar and obtain his certificate.
Sect. 13. Jewish Registrars to be certified by the President of Jewish
Board of Deputies.

1847 - 10 & 11 Vic. cap. 58. An Act to remove Doubts as to Quakers' and
Jews' Marriages, solemnized before certain periods.

Declares all marriages amongst Jews solemnized in England before April 1,
1837, or in Ireland before April 1, 1845, according to their usages, are
good in law, if both parties were Jews.

Hope this is of interest to those researching relatives in England or
Ireland.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net