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A success story #general

Sara Lynns
 

My father, Sam died when I was very young. My mother, for whatever reason,
did not make an effort to connect with my father's side of the family. It
remained a mystery to me as a child and an adult.
I knew little about my father. I began doing research on the LERNER
side some while ago. I found some family documents and census records.
My local Jewish genealogy group was helpful, as was Center for Jewish
History and LDS family history centers, too along with other resources.
I found out besides a sister, Sam had a brother, too. I appreciate all
the help I've received in doing family research.

My mother died (may she rest in peace) nearly 7 years ago. I'd posted
on different Jewish genealogy websites and occasionally received an email
from someone. However, there was no familial connection.
I saw a poster here entitled "connecting with your ancestors." Susan's
grandmother or great-grandmother was Native American. She facilitated
this workshop as part of her thesis paper. I spoke with her and decided
to attend the workshop.

We were told to visualize a relative we wanted to connect with. I did not
have photos of my paternal grandparents or his siblings. So... I chose to
visualize face to face talk with my father (adult to adult). I spoke with
Susan again a few days after this workshop.

That evening I received an email saying ..."there seems no doubt we are
first cousins..." I put my hand over my mouth and cried in disbelief.
Evelyn and her husband found my post(s) on Jewish genealogy websites.

I had been unable to find further documentation on my Aunt Sara, because
she'd remarried. Evelyn and I have spoken a number of times on the phone
and emails of course. We've exchanged photographs. Evelyn did not know
my father even existed.

We recently met. I'm looking forward to getting to know Evelyn, Roy and
my other cousins, too.

Jacqueline Lerner Aderman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen A success story #general

Sara Lynns
 

My father, Sam died when I was very young. My mother, for whatever reason,
did not make an effort to connect with my father's side of the family. It
remained a mystery to me as a child and an adult.
I knew little about my father. I began doing research on the LERNER
side some while ago. I found some family documents and census records.
My local Jewish genealogy group was helpful, as was Center for Jewish
History and LDS family history centers, too along with other resources.
I found out besides a sister, Sam had a brother, too. I appreciate all
the help I've received in doing family research.

My mother died (may she rest in peace) nearly 7 years ago. I'd posted
on different Jewish genealogy websites and occasionally received an email
from someone. However, there was no familial connection.
I saw a poster here entitled "connecting with your ancestors." Susan's
grandmother or great-grandmother was Native American. She facilitated
this workshop as part of her thesis paper. I spoke with her and decided
to attend the workshop.

We were told to visualize a relative we wanted to connect with. I did not
have photos of my paternal grandparents or his siblings. So... I chose to
visualize face to face talk with my father (adult to adult). I spoke with
Susan again a few days after this workshop.

That evening I received an email saying ..."there seems no doubt we are
first cousins..." I put my hand over my mouth and cried in disbelief.
Evelyn and her husband found my post(s) on Jewish genealogy websites.

I had been unable to find further documentation on my Aunt Sara, because
she'd remarried. Evelyn and I have spoken a number of times on the phone
and emails of course. We've exchanged photographs. Evelyn did not know
my father even existed.

We recently met. I'm looking forward to getting to know Evelyn, Roy and
my other cousins, too.

Jacqueline Lerner Aderman


LIVNE - LEBENSOLD in Israel #general

Peter Lebensold
 

Can some kind researcher tell me if there is, currently alive somewhere in
Israel, a Schlomo LIVNE (Stephen Morse's transliteration feature seems to
provide dozens of Hebrew possibilities, so I've been unable to search the
telephone directories myself). Or a descendant of his.

Schlomo would be the son of Warsaw Holocaust survivor Jacub LEBENSOLD (b.1913),
and grandson of Schlomo LEBENSOLD and Estera GLIKSBERG. I'm guessing he would
have been born in the late 1940s, early 1950s.

Many thanks.

Peter Lebensold
Toronto


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LIVNE - LEBENSOLD in Israel #general

Peter Lebensold
 

Can some kind researcher tell me if there is, currently alive somewhere in
Israel, a Schlomo LIVNE (Stephen Morse's transliteration feature seems to
provide dozens of Hebrew possibilities, so I've been unable to search the
telephone directories myself). Or a descendant of his.

Schlomo would be the son of Warsaw Holocaust survivor Jacub LEBENSOLD (b.1913),
and grandson of Schlomo LEBENSOLD and Estera GLIKSBERG. I'm guessing he would
have been born in the late 1940s, early 1950s.

Many thanks.

Peter Lebensold
Toronto


1905 census for Manhattan #general

lizdmiller@...
 

Many thanks to everyone who took the time to answer
my question regarding the 1905 Manhattan Census records,
and especially to AE Jordon, who has offered his
expertise in assisting.

Liz Ruderman Miller
lizdmiller@earthlink.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1905 census for Manhattan #general

lizdmiller@...
 

Many thanks to everyone who took the time to answer
my question regarding the 1905 Manhattan Census records,
and especially to AE Jordon, who has offered his
expertise in assisting.

Liz Ruderman Miller
lizdmiller@earthlink.net


Re: Kollel Galicia - Rawa Ruska & Belz #galicia

lib
 

Hello Karen,
thank you for all the information. My wife is a member of the
TRITT family >from Rawa Russka. Her great grand father Simche Trit married
Sara and they gave birth to Mordechai Tritt in 1878. The latter married
Liebe HIRSH. They gave birth to Israel Tritt in 1901. Then Mordechai left
Rawa Russka for NYC. He then brought his wife and child to the USA IN 1905.
They had more children in the USA and one of them gave birth to my wife
whose maiden name is Tritt.

I now will try to decipher all the information about the Tritts. If you need
any name information on Korczyna, Zmigrod, Nowy Sadz or Krosno, I will be
more then happy to provide you with the information.
Thanks again. Shalom
Bill Leibner

-----Original Message-----
From: Karen Roekard [roekard@lmi.net]

I have gone through the Kollel Galicia lists for several towns, translated
several years of lists for the town of Rawa Ruska and worked on, and so know
the families but have not yet completed, several of the Belz lists.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Kollel Galicia - Rawa Ruska & Belz #general

lib
 

Hello Karen,
thank you for all the information. My wife is a member of the
TRITT family >from Rawa Russka. Her great grand father Simche Trit married
Sara and they gave birth to Mordechai Tritt in 1878. The latter married
Liebe HIRSH. They gave birth to Israel Tritt in 1901. Then Mordechai left
Rawa Russka for NYC. He then brought his wife and child to the USA IN 1905.
They had more children in the USA and one of them gave birth to my wife
whose maiden name is Tritt.

I now will try to decipher all the information about the Tritts. If you need
any name information on Korczyna, Zmigrod, Nowy Sadz or Krosno, I will be
more then happy to provide you with the information.
Thanks again. Shalom
Bill Leibner

-----Original Message-----
From: Karen Roekard [roekard@lmi.net]

I have gone through the Kollel Galicia lists for several towns, translated
several years of lists for the town of Rawa Ruska and worked on, and so know
the families but have not yet completed, several of the Belz lists.


Hand in Hand Society of Philadelphia #general

Sonnie Sperati <slsweaver@...>
 

My great grandparents were buried in Adath Jeshurun cemetery by a
philanthropic group called Hand in Hand. Does anyone have information
on this group?

Thanks.

Sonnie Sperati
Landenberg PA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hand in Hand Society of Philadelphia #general

Sonnie Sperati <slsweaver@...>
 

My great grandparents were buried in Adath Jeshurun cemetery by a
philanthropic group called Hand in Hand. Does anyone have information
on this group?

Thanks.

Sonnie Sperati
Landenberg PA


Re: STEIF from Stropkov, Zemplen #hungary

samara99@...
 

The vital records in the AHD generally only go up until 1895, although there
are sporadic exceptions. If Jakob and Aron died in Hungary after 1895, their
death records would be in the civil registration records used after 1895.
These are located at
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titlehitlist&columns=*%2C0%2C0&keyword=hungarian+civil+registration+records&prekeyword=hungarian+civil+registration+records

But there are 1900 films of civil registrations. You would need to look
through the catalog to see if any exist for Stropkov, assuming they died
there.

I'm not sure there are birth records for Stropkov earlier than what is in
the AHD.

To connect your STEIF's with the others is more problematic. All the records
in the AHD give the source, which is the LDS film number and volume on that
film. The Page-row number refers to the physical page >from the begiining of
that volume. Record 47-3, for example, is the 3rd record on the 47th page
from the beginning of the volume.
I would suggest you need to check the source records and see if you can find
any witnesses to a birth, marriage or death also with the name of STEIF.
They may be >from the other STEIF clan and would help establish a probable
connection.

Good hunting.

Sam Schleman
Project Coordinator
Hungarian Vital Records Project



My STEIF family ancestors came >from Stropkov, Zemplen, Slovakia. Wolf
STEIF, my grandfather, arrived in NYC in 1880 and moved to Chicago 17
years later. He died in 1914. His father Hirsch STEIF also emigrated
in 1880 along with his wife Rosie and son, Eddie, and moved to Chicago
at some point. Hirsch left Chicago to die in Palestine, while Rosie,
Wolf, and Eddie remained in Chicago. Hirsch?s brother, Moses STEIF,
later known as Moses STEIF JACOBS, had arrived in the US in 1870, and
then moved to Arkansas, Missouri, Washington, Oregon and California.
I have found Hirsch, Rosie, and Wolf in the 1869 Hungarian census,
along with a sister, Anna, who died in childhood.

The All Hungary database has birth records for six children of Hirsch
and Rosie: Jakob, Wolf, Rezi (Anna), Aron, Ascher (Eddie), and Chaim.
Rezi and Chaim, died in childhood, and had death records are in the
database. Two others, Jakob (born in 1860) and Aron (born in 1870),
have birth records, but no death records. I am wondering if they
stayed behind when their parents left Stropkov for NY. It is unlikely
that Aron stayed behind, since he was so young. I assume that he too
must have died in childhood. However Jakob would have been old enough
to have stayed by himself. He is not, however, listed in the 1869
census. I am wondering if he, too, had died before the family left
Stropkov. If not, he may have descendants. How would I get access to
other Stropkov death records of the period as well as earlier birth
records?

My next question is whether my STEIFs are related to other STEIFs in
the region. The name in that spelling is unusual. The other STEIFs
in the birth records are the children of Simon STEIF and Hani
Rosenberg. They were >from Eperjes, but Simon was originally from
Nagymihaly (Michalovce). I am wondering if there is a connection
between these STEIFs and my STEIFs. The distance between Stropkov and
Nagymihaly does not seem to be that great.

I would appreciate any feedback I can get on these questions.

Thank you.

Ann L. Fuller
Oberlin, OH USA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: RE:STEIF from Stropkov, Zemplen #hungary

samara99@...
 

The vital records in the AHD generally only go up until 1895, although there
are sporadic exceptions. If Jakob and Aron died in Hungary after 1895, their
death records would be in the civil registration records used after 1895.
These are located at
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titlehitlist&columns=*%2C0%2C0&keyword=hungarian+civil+registration+records&prekeyword=hungarian+civil+registration+records

But there are 1900 films of civil registrations. You would need to look
through the catalog to see if any exist for Stropkov, assuming they died
there.

I'm not sure there are birth records for Stropkov earlier than what is in
the AHD.

To connect your STEIF's with the others is more problematic. All the records
in the AHD give the source, which is the LDS film number and volume on that
film. The Page-row number refers to the physical page >from the begiining of
that volume. Record 47-3, for example, is the 3rd record on the 47th page
from the beginning of the volume.
I would suggest you need to check the source records and see if you can find
any witnesses to a birth, marriage or death also with the name of STEIF.
They may be >from the other STEIF clan and would help establish a probable
connection.

Good hunting.

Sam Schleman
Project Coordinator
Hungarian Vital Records Project



My STEIF family ancestors came >from Stropkov, Zemplen, Slovakia. Wolf
STEIF, my grandfather, arrived in NYC in 1880 and moved to Chicago 17
years later. He died in 1914. His father Hirsch STEIF also emigrated
in 1880 along with his wife Rosie and son, Eddie, and moved to Chicago
at some point. Hirsch left Chicago to die in Palestine, while Rosie,
Wolf, and Eddie remained in Chicago. Hirsch?s brother, Moses STEIF,
later known as Moses STEIF JACOBS, had arrived in the US in 1870, and
then moved to Arkansas, Missouri, Washington, Oregon and California.
I have found Hirsch, Rosie, and Wolf in the 1869 Hungarian census,
along with a sister, Anna, who died in childhood.

The All Hungary database has birth records for six children of Hirsch
and Rosie: Jakob, Wolf, Rezi (Anna), Aron, Ascher (Eddie), and Chaim.
Rezi and Chaim, died in childhood, and had death records are in the
database. Two others, Jakob (born in 1860) and Aron (born in 1870),
have birth records, but no death records. I am wondering if they
stayed behind when their parents left Stropkov for NY. It is unlikely
that Aron stayed behind, since he was so young. I assume that he too
must have died in childhood. However Jakob would have been old enough
to have stayed by himself. He is not, however, listed in the 1869
census. I am wondering if he, too, had died before the family left
Stropkov. If not, he may have descendants. How would I get access to
other Stropkov death records of the period as well as earlier birth
records?

My next question is whether my STEIFs are related to other STEIFs in
the region. The name in that spelling is unusual. The other STEIFs
in the birth records are the children of Simon STEIF and Hani
Rosenberg. They were >from Eperjes, but Simon was originally from
Nagymihaly (Michalovce). I am wondering if there is a connection
between these STEIFs and my STEIFs. The distance between Stropkov and
Nagymihaly does not seem to be that great.

I would appreciate any feedback I can get on these questions.

Thank you.

Ann L. Fuller
Oberlin, OH USA


Re: Nitra Chevra Kadisha Book #hungary

vze2sv8z@...
 

This kind of situation is, I fear, not unusual. As I mentioned
previously, a Chevra Kadisha register for Beius, Romania, listed in
Kestenbaum's Judaica auction catalog in 2000, is now held by MJH; the
Museum has no knowledge (or interest?) in the book's pre-Kestenbaum
provenance.

A similar volume, with different dates, was offered at auction in
Budapest in 2007:

www.axioart.com/index.php?set_lang=hu&op=live_item&id=330194=330194&

When I visited in Romania in 2005, I looked at a number of record
books in the Oradea Jewish Community office, including is this item.
The custodian of the record books, who assisted me in my research, has
since died, and there is the distinct possibility that the book was
then stolen >from the Oradea Jewish Community office. According to the
auction house, they obtained the item >from a man who told them he
bought it at a town fair in Romania.

In Nitra, the Jewish Community seems to be taking an active role in
preserving its documentary heritage, and I hope they are able to
recover the stolen items. Other Jewish Communities may not be as
vigilant, or have the resources to follow through. I haven't been
able to verify the current situation in Oradea, and I don't know the
results of last December's auction in Budapest.

In the meantime, while recognizing that a museum is not a researcn
archives, let's hope that MJH will be willing to allow access to its
holdings in a way that both preserves precious documents and makes
available the valuable information they contain.

Bob Friedman,
Brooklyn, NY

On Sat, 30 May 2009 12:36:37 +0200, Tomá? Lang <tlang@novotrade.sk>
wrote:

I talk FRI to Nitra Jewish Community President Dr. Peter SCHWARZ he proved
the Chevra Kadisha Book of Nitra should be actioned in N.Y. and many other
religious items of the Community were stolen >from the Community Offices at
the end of 1990´ties.
The police of Slovakia investigated the deal, the robbers were charged by
the court but some stolen items have been not found at the time.
I will meet Dr. Schwarz personally at SUN when the Azkara in Nitra will be
held and try to submitt to H-SIG some more informations a.s.a.p.

With best regards
Tomas Lang
Nove Zamky Jewish Community President
Slovakia


STEIF from Stropkov and Michalovce #hungary

viviankahn@...
 

I've been researching the family of Fulop (Shraga Feivel) STEIF b.
Gereny, Ung (Horjani, Ukr.) abt 1860 who married Eidel NEUMAN. She
may have been part of my NEUMAN family >from Sobrance. Fulop and Eidel
had at least 5 children who perished in the Shoah: Lenke b. 1883,
Mordechai (Markus) b. 1888, Avraham Jakob b. 1889, Jolan b. 1893, and
David b. 1900.

Lenke married Henrik FRIEDMAN and had at least 3 children, one of whom
survived. Avraham Jakob, who was born in Sobrance, married Margarit
(Miryam) KLEIN >from Tibava. Their daughter Ruth ROGIER survived and
settled in Los Angeles, where I located her son.

David, who was born in Nagymihaly (Michalovce) married Regina (Rivka)
MANDEL >from Solymos (Inacovce). According to their daughter Adina
KLEIN, they both perished at Maidenek. In addition to Adina they had
at least five children born in Michalovce who also perished.

Jolan married Joszef TREITEL >from Bodrogkeresztur. She owned a fur
shop in Presov.

I would also appreciate any information about the STEIF family >from
Sobrance and Michalovce.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
vkahn@kmort.com
http://web.mac.com/lmort/Vivian_Kahn_Family_Website/Home_.html

Researching families including:

GRUNVALD/Humenne, Slov.
KAHAN/Sighet, Rom.(Maramarossziget, Hun)
KOHN/Zebegnyo, Tarnoka, Zemplen, Hun. ,(Zbehnov, Trnvka, Slov.),
Cleveland
LEFKOVICS/Zemplen megye, Hung.
MOSKOVITS/MOSKOWITZ/MOSS, Ostrov (Kisozstro), Sobrance, Michalovce,
Kosice, Slov; Nyiregyhaza, Hung; Cleveland
NEUMANN/Sobrance, Michalovce, Kereszt (Kristy, Slov.)
POLACSEK/Sobrance
ROSENBERG/Ungvar (Uzhorod, Ukr.)
SIMKO/Kosice
VERO, WEISBERGER/Debrecen, Nyirbator
ZICHERMAN/Sobrance

On May 30, 2009, at 11:04 PM, H-SIG digest wrote:

Subject: RE: STEIF >from Stropkov, Zemplen
From: afuller@oberlin.edu
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:17:19 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3

My STEIF family ancestors came >from Stropkov, Zemplen, Slovakia. Wolf
STEIF, my grandfather, arrived in NYC in 1880 and moved to Chicago 17
years later. He died in 1914. His father Hirsch STEIF also emigrated
in 1880 along with his wife Rosie and son, Eddie, and moved to Chicago
at some point. Hirsch left Chicago to die in Palestine, while Rosie,
Wolf, and Eddie remained in Chicago. Hirsch?s brother, Moses STEIF,
later known as Moses STEIF JACOBS, had arrived in the US in 1870, and
then moved to Arkansas, Missouri, Washington, Oregon and California.
I have found Hirsch, Rosie, and Wolf in the 1869 Hungarian census,
along with a sister, Anna, who died in childhood.

The All Hungary database has birth records for six children of Hirsch
and Rosie: Jakob, Wolf, Rezi (Anna), Aron, Ascher (Eddie), and Chaim.
Rezi and Chaim, died in childhood, and had death records are in the
database. Two others, Jakob (born in 1860) and Aron (born in 1870),
have birth records, but no death records. I am wondering if they
stayed behind when their parents left Stropkov for NY. It is unlikely
that Aron stayed behind, since he was so young. I assume that he too
must have died in childhood. However Jakob would have been old enough
to have stayed by himself. He is not, however, listed in the 1869
census. I am wondering if he, too, had died before the family left
Stropkov. If not, he may have descendants. How would I get access to
other Stropkov death records of the period as well as earlier birth
records?

My next question is whether my STEIFs are related to other STEIFs in
the region. The name in that spelling is unusual. The other STEIFs
in the birth records are the children of Simon STEIF and Hani
Rosenberg. They were >from Eperjes, but Simon was originally from
Nagymihaly (Michalovce). I am wondering if there is a connection
between these STEIFs and my STEIFs. The distance between Stropkov and
Nagymihaly does not seem to be that great.

I would appreciate any feedback I can get on these questions.

Thank you.

Ann L. Fuller
Oberlin, OH USA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Nitra Chevra Kadisha Book #hungary

vze2sv8z@...
 

This kind of situation is, I fear, not unusual. As I mentioned
previously, a Chevra Kadisha register for Beius, Romania, listed in
Kestenbaum's Judaica auction catalog in 2000, is now held by MJH; the
Museum has no knowledge (or interest?) in the book's pre-Kestenbaum
provenance.

A similar volume, with different dates, was offered at auction in
Budapest in 2007:

www.axioart.com/index.php?set_lang=hu&op=live_item&id=330194=330194&

When I visited in Romania in 2005, I looked at a number of record
books in the Oradea Jewish Community office, including is this item.
The custodian of the record books, who assisted me in my research, has
since died, and there is the distinct possibility that the book was
then stolen >from the Oradea Jewish Community office. According to the
auction house, they obtained the item >from a man who told them he
bought it at a town fair in Romania.

In Nitra, the Jewish Community seems to be taking an active role in
preserving its documentary heritage, and I hope they are able to
recover the stolen items. Other Jewish Communities may not be as
vigilant, or have the resources to follow through. I haven't been
able to verify the current situation in Oradea, and I don't know the
results of last December's auction in Budapest.

In the meantime, while recognizing that a museum is not a researcn
archives, let's hope that MJH will be willing to allow access to its
holdings in a way that both preserves precious documents and makes
available the valuable information they contain.

Bob Friedman,
Brooklyn, NY

On Sat, 30 May 2009 12:36:37 +0200, Tomá? Lang <tlang@novotrade.sk>
wrote:

I talk FRI to Nitra Jewish Community President Dr. Peter SCHWARZ he proved
the Chevra Kadisha Book of Nitra should be actioned in N.Y. and many other
religious items of the Community were stolen >from the Community Offices at
the end of 1990´ties.
The police of Slovakia investigated the deal, the robbers were charged by
the court but some stolen items have been not found at the time.
I will meet Dr. Schwarz personally at SUN when the Azkara in Nitra will be
held and try to submitt to H-SIG some more informations a.s.a.p.

With best regards
Tomas Lang
Nove Zamky Jewish Community President
Slovakia


Hungary SIG #Hungary STEIF from Stropkov and Michalovce #hungary

viviankahn@...
 

I've been researching the family of Fulop (Shraga Feivel) STEIF b.
Gereny, Ung (Horjani, Ukr.) abt 1860 who married Eidel NEUMAN. She
may have been part of my NEUMAN family >from Sobrance. Fulop and Eidel
had at least 5 children who perished in the Shoah: Lenke b. 1883,
Mordechai (Markus) b. 1888, Avraham Jakob b. 1889, Jolan b. 1893, and
David b. 1900.

Lenke married Henrik FRIEDMAN and had at least 3 children, one of whom
survived. Avraham Jakob, who was born in Sobrance, married Margarit
(Miryam) KLEIN >from Tibava. Their daughter Ruth ROGIER survived and
settled in Los Angeles, where I located her son.

David, who was born in Nagymihaly (Michalovce) married Regina (Rivka)
MANDEL >from Solymos (Inacovce). According to their daughter Adina
KLEIN, they both perished at Maidenek. In addition to Adina they had
at least five children born in Michalovce who also perished.

Jolan married Joszef TREITEL >from Bodrogkeresztur. She owned a fur
shop in Presov.

I would also appreciate any information about the STEIF family >from
Sobrance and Michalovce.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
vkahn@kmort.com
http://web.mac.com/lmort/Vivian_Kahn_Family_Website/Home_.html

Researching families including:

GRUNVALD/Humenne, Slov.
KAHAN/Sighet, Rom.(Maramarossziget, Hun)
KOHN/Zebegnyo, Tarnoka, Zemplen, Hun. ,(Zbehnov, Trnvka, Slov.),
Cleveland
LEFKOVICS/Zemplen megye, Hung.
MOSKOVITS/MOSKOWITZ/MOSS, Ostrov (Kisozstro), Sobrance, Michalovce,
Kosice, Slov; Nyiregyhaza, Hung; Cleveland
NEUMANN/Sobrance, Michalovce, Kereszt (Kristy, Slov.)
POLACSEK/Sobrance
ROSENBERG/Ungvar (Uzhorod, Ukr.)
SIMKO/Kosice
VERO, WEISBERGER/Debrecen, Nyirbator
ZICHERMAN/Sobrance

On May 30, 2009, at 11:04 PM, H-SIG digest wrote:

Subject: RE: STEIF >from Stropkov, Zemplen
From: afuller@oberlin.edu
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:17:19 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3

My STEIF family ancestors came >from Stropkov, Zemplen, Slovakia. Wolf
STEIF, my grandfather, arrived in NYC in 1880 and moved to Chicago 17
years later. He died in 1914. His father Hirsch STEIF also emigrated
in 1880 along with his wife Rosie and son, Eddie, and moved to Chicago
at some point. Hirsch left Chicago to die in Palestine, while Rosie,
Wolf, and Eddie remained in Chicago. Hirsch?s brother, Moses STEIF,
later known as Moses STEIF JACOBS, had arrived in the US in 1870, and
then moved to Arkansas, Missouri, Washington, Oregon and California.
I have found Hirsch, Rosie, and Wolf in the 1869 Hungarian census,
along with a sister, Anna, who died in childhood.

The All Hungary database has birth records for six children of Hirsch
and Rosie: Jakob, Wolf, Rezi (Anna), Aron, Ascher (Eddie), and Chaim.
Rezi and Chaim, died in childhood, and had death records are in the
database. Two others, Jakob (born in 1860) and Aron (born in 1870),
have birth records, but no death records. I am wondering if they
stayed behind when their parents left Stropkov for NY. It is unlikely
that Aron stayed behind, since he was so young. I assume that he too
must have died in childhood. However Jakob would have been old enough
to have stayed by himself. He is not, however, listed in the 1869
census. I am wondering if he, too, had died before the family left
Stropkov. If not, he may have descendants. How would I get access to
other Stropkov death records of the period as well as earlier birth
records?

My next question is whether my STEIFs are related to other STEIFs in
the region. The name in that spelling is unusual. The other STEIFs
in the birth records are the children of Simon STEIF and Hani
Rosenberg. They were >from Eperjes, but Simon was originally from
Nagymihaly (Michalovce). I am wondering if there is a connection
between these STEIFs and my STEIFs. The distance between Stropkov and
Nagymihaly does not seem to be that great.

I would appreciate any feedback I can get on these questions.

Thank you.

Ann L. Fuller
Oberlin, OH USA


Friends Central Relief #general

Cynthia Spikell
 

When researching the entry of cousins to the U.S. in 1923, I saw that
their last address in Bucharest, Romania, was "Friends Central Relief".
The cousins had originated in Tetiyev, Ukraine, where family members had
been killed in a 1920 pogrom. Family lore had already said they made their
way to Romania after the pogrom.

Does anyone know what "Friends Central Relief" was? It seems it might be
a Quaker organization that is still in existence in some form.

Any information would be appreciated.

Cynthia Spikell
Ohio, U.S.A.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Friends Central Relief #general

Cynthia Spikell
 

When researching the entry of cousins to the U.S. in 1923, I saw that
their last address in Bucharest, Romania, was "Friends Central Relief".
The cousins had originated in Tetiyev, Ukraine, where family members had
been killed in a 1920 pogrom. Family lore had already said they made their
way to Romania after the pogrom.

Does anyone know what "Friends Central Relief" was? It seems it might be
a Quaker organization that is still in existence in some form.

Any information would be appreciated.

Cynthia Spikell
Ohio, U.S.A.


Re: Name translations help, please #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 5/30/2009 lisa.dashman@verizon.net writes:
I've received photos of some relatives' graves, and would appreciate help
in deciphering the following names:

"nun-pe-tet-resh (man)"
that's not a name. It's a word, niftar, "he died"
this is usually followed by the Hebrew date of death
It's commonly abbreviated as nun-peh. If a female, add a heh
for "niftara"

"vav-gimel-vav-lamed-dalet-hay (man)"
not anything like any name I recognize. Reads to me as "va-Gulda"
"and Gulda," apparently a woman's name, variant of Golda

"resh-yud-yud-nun-hay (woman)
Rayna, Reyna

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Name translations help, please #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 5/30/2009 lisa.dashman@verizon.net writes:
I've received photos of some relatives' graves, and would appreciate help
in deciphering the following names:

"nun-pe-tet-resh (man)"
that's not a name. It's a word, niftar, "he died"
this is usually followed by the Hebrew date of death
It's commonly abbreviated as nun-peh. If a female, add a heh
for "niftara"

"vav-gimel-vav-lamed-dalet-hay (man)"
not anything like any name I recognize. Reads to me as "va-Gulda"
"and Gulda," apparently a woman's name, variant of Golda

"resh-yud-yud-nun-hay (woman)
Rayna, Reyna

Michael Bernet, New York