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Name of Town - ViewMate #general

Lynne Schneider
 

Dear Genners,

I have been puzzling this for a long time and finally posted to
ViewMate for help.

I placed a portion of my paternal grandfather's Petition for
Naturalization in the hope that someone far more familiar with shtetls
than I am would be able to decipher the name of the town where he said
he was born.

David Rosen kindly responded that he thought it
might be Lwowa, which is of course possible. I would greatly appreciate
any other suggestions.

My puzzle can be found at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=12996

Thanking you in advance I am gratefully,

Lynne DATZ SCHNEIDER

Researching on JewishGen: DATZ, WALZER, SAPERSTEIN, LEVYNE,
ESCHEN, SINGER(MAN), SCHNEIDER, GOLDBERG (GRAHAME), LIEBOWITZ,
HAUSER, TRAISTER
Researching in The Rest of The World: PLANTE, WEIR, TIEMANN,
MINOR(MINER), WYETH, NEWELL

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply using the "Submit Response"
utility on the ViewMate page.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Name of Town - ViewMate #general

Lynne Schneider
 

Dear Genners,

I have been puzzling this for a long time and finally posted to
ViewMate for help.

I placed a portion of my paternal grandfather's Petition for
Naturalization in the hope that someone far more familiar with shtetls
than I am would be able to decipher the name of the town where he said
he was born.

David Rosen kindly responded that he thought it
might be Lwowa, which is of course possible. I would greatly appreciate
any other suggestions.

My puzzle can be found at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=12996

Thanking you in advance I am gratefully,

Lynne DATZ SCHNEIDER

Researching on JewishGen: DATZ, WALZER, SAPERSTEIN, LEVYNE,
ESCHEN, SINGER(MAN), SCHNEIDER, GOLDBERG (GRAHAME), LIEBOWITZ,
HAUSER, TRAISTER
Researching in The Rest of The World: PLANTE, WEIR, TIEMANN,
MINOR(MINER), WYETH, NEWELL

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply using the "Submit Response"
utility on the ViewMate page.
Re: Looking for Pictures of Monroe, Henry and Rutgers Streets NYC 1900-1918 #general

Joseph Hirschfield
 

You should be aware that the pictures available >from the NYC
Municipal Archives are not for exact addresses. They are for
a partial block that contains the address you request, and there
is usually no way to identify which building is the address
that is sought. In one case I know of, I showed my aunt a
picture that I had received >from the archive which supposedly
showed the building in which she had lived in the late 1920's.
She told me the picture was indeed of her block, but her
building was off to the right of those shown and not in the
picture at all.

Joe Hirschfield
Portage, MI
HIRSCHFELD, HERSZFELD, BUXBAUM, BUCHSBAUM, BUKSBAUM,
LINDENBAUM-Skwarzawa, Sielec Bienkow, Glinyany,
Jaryczow Novyy -- Galicia
MINOFF, MINOWICKI, MINOWITZKI, TOBIASZ-Brest Litovsk,
Vysoko Litivsk -- Belarus

In a message dated 6/23/2009 11:41:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Aejordan@... writes:
...in the 1930s every
building was photographed in Manhattan. The photos are all available
at the NYC Municipal Archives. They were microfilmed and you can see
them all at the Archives and printout copies or order originals.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Looking for Pictures of Monroe, Henry and Rutgers Streets NYC 1900-1918 #general

Joseph Hirschfield
 

You should be aware that the pictures available >from the NYC
Municipal Archives are not for exact addresses. They are for
a partial block that contains the address you request, and there
is usually no way to identify which building is the address
that is sought. In one case I know of, I showed my aunt a
picture that I had received >from the archive which supposedly
showed the building in which she had lived in the late 1920's.
She told me the picture was indeed of her block, but her
building was off to the right of those shown and not in the
picture at all.

Joe Hirschfield
Portage, MI
HIRSCHFELD, HERSZFELD, BUXBAUM, BUCHSBAUM, BUKSBAUM,
LINDENBAUM-Skwarzawa, Sielec Bienkow, Glinyany,
Jaryczow Novyy -- Galicia
MINOFF, MINOWICKI, MINOWITZKI, TOBIASZ-Brest Litovsk,
Vysoko Litivsk -- Belarus

In a message dated 6/23/2009 11:41:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Aejordan@... writes:
...in the 1930s every
building was photographed in Manhattan. The photos are all available
at the NYC Municipal Archives. They were microfilmed and you can see
them all at the Archives and printout copies or order originals.
New family website #austria-czech

Daniel Kester
 

I have recently posted my family data online.
The home page is: www.thekesters.net/Genealogy
and an index of family names can be found at: www.thekesters.net/Genealogy//Index_of_names.html
The site includes background information about the different branches
of the family, genealogical listings, photos, and maps.

All branches of the family were originally German-Jewish, mainly >from
the western part of Germany and >from former areas of Germany that are
now in Poland. However, there was naturally some amount of overlap
with areas in the Austrian or Czech region.

Some of the main families covered, and their "home towns" are:

BAUM (Wiesbaden)
BAER (town of Nassau, Wiesbaden)
PAPPENHEIM (Zuelz/Biala, Pitschen)
MUEHSAM (with umlaut) (Pitschen, Upper Silesia)
KLEINSTRASS (Steinheim)
HOCHHEIMER (Steinheim)
FLOERSHEIM or FLORSHEIM (Romrod, later Chicago)
BASSEVI
GERNSHEIMER (Viernheim, Rueckingen)
LUFT (Krojanke)
JACOBI (Bromberg/Bydgoszcz)
WITKOWSKI
SORAUER
BAGINSKY
SCHWEITZER
ROSENSTERN
ALEXANDER
EISENSTAEDT (with umlaut) (Stuhm/Sztum)

Feedback and comments are of course encouraged.

Daniel Kester
Buffalo, NY USA
Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech New family website #austria-czech

Daniel Kester
 

I have recently posted my family data online.
The home page is: www.thekesters.net/Genealogy
and an index of family names can be found at: www.thekesters.net/Genealogy//Index_of_names.html
The site includes background information about the different branches
of the family, genealogical listings, photos, and maps.

All branches of the family were originally German-Jewish, mainly >from
the western part of Germany and >from former areas of Germany that are
now in Poland. However, there was naturally some amount of overlap
with areas in the Austrian or Czech region.

Some of the main families covered, and their "home towns" are:

BAUM (Wiesbaden)
BAER (town of Nassau, Wiesbaden)
PAPPENHEIM (Zuelz/Biala, Pitschen)
MUEHSAM (with umlaut) (Pitschen, Upper Silesia)
KLEINSTRASS (Steinheim)
HOCHHEIMER (Steinheim)
FLOERSHEIM or FLORSHEIM (Romrod, later Chicago)
BASSEVI
GERNSHEIMER (Viernheim, Rueckingen)
LUFT (Krojanke)
JACOBI (Bromberg/Bydgoszcz)
WITKOWSKI
SORAUER
BAGINSKY
SCHWEITZER
ROSENSTERN
ALEXANDER
EISENSTAEDT (with umlaut) (Stuhm/Sztum)

Feedback and comments are of course encouraged.

Daniel Kester
Buffalo, NY USA
A Sidelight on 1938 Deportations #galicia

Edward Goldstein <editor.thegalitzianer@...>
 

You may be interested in why some Polish Jews living in Germany
during the 1938 deportations were allowed to remain in Germany
at the time.

Our family, carrying Polish passports, were living in Essen in
Western Germany at the time. Our circle of friends consisted
mainly of Galitzianers who, like my parents, had migrated to
Germany in the 1920s, mainly to escape the dismal economic
conditions in Galicia. Almost all of these friends were deported
to Poland during the 1938 expulsion.

My father had served in the Austrian army >from 1913 to 1918,
fighting against the Italians in the various Isonzo campaigns. He
became an Italian prisoner of war in 1917 and later fought in
Haller's Army against the Bolsheviks and Ukrainians.

He and other Polish Jewish war veterans were exempted >from the
expulsion because of their military service on Germany's side
during World War I.

Edward Goldstein
Cambridge, MA
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia A Sidelight on 1938 Deportations #galicia

Edward Goldstein <editor.thegalitzianer@...>
 

You may be interested in why some Polish Jews living in Germany
during the 1938 deportations were allowed to remain in Germany
at the time.

Our family, carrying Polish passports, were living in Essen in
Western Germany at the time. Our circle of friends consisted
mainly of Galitzianers who, like my parents, had migrated to
Germany in the 1920s, mainly to escape the dismal economic
conditions in Galicia. Almost all of these friends were deported
to Poland during the 1938 expulsion.

My father had served in the Austrian army >from 1913 to 1918,
fighting against the Italians in the various Isonzo campaigns. He
became an Italian prisoner of war in 1917 and later fought in
Haller's Army against the Bolsheviks and Ukrainians.

He and other Polish Jewish war veterans were exempted >from the
expulsion because of their military service on Germany's side
during World War I.

Edward Goldstein
Cambridge, MA
Re: Kindertransport - No! - a deciet by Russian Authorities #galicia

Anita Hasson <hassony@...>
 

In response to Melissa Weisberg's message:

No, it wasn't kindertransport - just one of several mass
deportations of the Eastern-Poland population taken over by the
Russians in WW2.

There were several waves of deportation in 1940 - mostly of
people whom the Russians considered as "risky elements":
politicians, wealthy merchants, intelligent circles (considered to
be potential for leading resistance) etc - whole families deported
together.

Besides, there was one quite interesting incident of deportation:
of those refugees >from the Western Parts of Poland, who, after the
German invasion of 1939 found refuge in the Eastern part of Poland,
occupied by the Russians.

Anita Hasson
hassony@...

Melissa Weisberg <melissaleah.weisberg@...> wrote:

<<I had been told by my mother that a young cousin was put on a
train, some time during the war, >from near Ivano-Frankivsk (then
Stanislawow) to Siberia. I'm trying to find out
1) if this could have been a kindertransport...>>
Re: kindertransport? #galicia

Alexander Sharon
 

"Melissa Weisberg" <melissaleah.weisberg@...> wrote:

I had been told by my mother that a young cousin was put on a
train, some time during the war, >from near Ivano-Frankivsk (then
Stanislawow) to Siberia. I'm trying to find out

1) if this could have been a kindertransport
2) if there is any way to find out what happened to him
3) if youngsters ended up in Russia, is it possible that they
remained there until relatively recent years, and could be living
either in eastern Europe again, or have settled someplace else....
Melissa,

There were indeed kindertransports >from the Soviet territories to
the East, but as this was mostly in case of the evacuations of
the orphanages and the summer camps. In general, families were
evacuated together.

Children (and families) that were settled in Russia during WWII
were:

1) Joining other families and evacuated with Anders' Polish Army
to Tehran, Persia, where >from they were settled for the war
duration in British colonies in Africa, they are known as
"Tehran children"
2) Have returned to Poland during 1945-1946, settled there or
moved to DP camps in Germany, where >from they immigrated to
Palestine/Israel or to States/Canada
3) Moved >from Russia to Poland during last of Polish citizens
repatriation 1957-1959.
4) Jewish people that left Stanislawow in the last decades
originated mostly >from eastern or southern Ukraine, not connected
to the preWWII Galician Jewry

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Canada
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia RE: Kindertransport - No! - a deciet by Russian Authorities #galicia

Anita Hasson <hassony@...>
 

In response to Melissa Weisberg's message:

No, it wasn't kindertransport - just one of several mass
deportations of the Eastern-Poland population taken over by the
Russians in WW2.

There were several waves of deportation in 1940 - mostly of
people whom the Russians considered as "risky elements":
politicians, wealthy merchants, intelligent circles (considered to
be potential for leading resistance) etc - whole families deported
together.

Besides, there was one quite interesting incident of deportation:
of those refugees >from the Western Parts of Poland, who, after the
German invasion of 1939 found refuge in the Eastern part of Poland,
occupied by the Russians.

Anita Hasson
hassony@...

Melissa Weisberg <melissaleah.weisberg@...> wrote:

<<I had been told by my mother that a young cousin was put on a
train, some time during the war, >from near Ivano-Frankivsk (then
Stanislawow) to Siberia. I'm trying to find out
1) if this could have been a kindertransport...>>
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: kindertransport? #galicia

Alexander Sharon
 

"Melissa Weisberg" <melissaleah.weisberg@...> wrote:

I had been told by my mother that a young cousin was put on a
train, some time during the war, >from near Ivano-Frankivsk (then
Stanislawow) to Siberia. I'm trying to find out

1) if this could have been a kindertransport
2) if there is any way to find out what happened to him
3) if youngsters ended up in Russia, is it possible that they
remained there until relatively recent years, and could be living
either in eastern Europe again, or have settled someplace else....
Melissa,

There were indeed kindertransports >from the Soviet territories to
the East, but as this was mostly in case of the evacuations of
the orphanages and the summer camps. In general, families were
evacuated together.

Children (and families) that were settled in Russia during WWII
were:

1) Joining other families and evacuated with Anders' Polish Army
to Tehran, Persia, where >from they were settled for the war
duration in British colonies in Africa, they are known as
"Tehran children"
2) Have returned to Poland during 1945-1946, settled there or
moved to DP camps in Germany, where >from they immigrated to
Palestine/Israel or to States/Canada
3) Moved >from Russia to Poland during last of Polish citizens
repatriation 1957-1959.
4) Jewish people that left Stanislawow in the last decades
originated mostly >from eastern or southern Ukraine, not connected
to the preWWII Galician Jewry

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Canada
Re: kindertransport? #galicia

Marjorie Rosenfeld <marjorierosenfeld@...>
 

Have you tried sending the Kindertransport Association the name
of the young cousin and asking whether their records show him as
part of the Kindertransport? See:

http://www.kindertransport.org/

Note the Contact Us link in the upper right hand corner.

Marjorie Stamm Rosenfeld
Carlsbad, CA

Melissa Weisberg <melissaleah.weisberg@...> wrote:

I had been told by my mother that a young cousin was put on a
train, some time during the war, >from near Ivano-Frankivsk (then
Stanislawow) to Siberia. I'm trying to find out

1) if this could have been a kindertransport
2) if there is any way to find out what happened to him
3) if youngsters ended up in Russia, is it possible that they
remained there until relatively recent years, and could be living
either in eastern Europe again, or have settled someplace else....
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia RE: kindertransport? #galicia

Marjorie Rosenfeld <marjorierosenfeld@...>
 

Have you tried sending the Kindertransport Association the name
of the young cousin and asking whether their records show him as
part of the Kindertransport? See:

http://www.kindertransport.org/

Note the Contact Us link in the upper right hand corner.

Marjorie Stamm Rosenfeld
Carlsbad, CA

Melissa Weisberg <melissaleah.weisberg@...> wrote:

I had been told by my mother that a young cousin was put on a
train, some time during the war, >from near Ivano-Frankivsk (then
Stanislawow) to Siberia. I'm trying to find out

1) if this could have been a kindertransport
2) if there is any way to find out what happened to him
3) if youngsters ended up in Russia, is it possible that they
remained there until relatively recent years, and could be living
either in eastern Europe again, or have settled someplace else....
1938 Deportation #galicia

Peter Bein <thinkbig@...>
 

During the last week of October 1938, many German Jews of Polish
origin were forced by the Nazis to leave their homes, and were
deported to Poland.

My grandmother Malka BEIN who lived in Leipzig, Germany, at the
time, was one of those unfortunate victims who somehow ended up
in Gorlice, Poland, her birthplace. This was a journey of many
hundreds of miles. How did she get there?

I am interested to find out what happened to these deportees (who
numbered in the thousands) in the days following their
deportation. Is there any record of how they made their way >from
here to there? Is it known who helped them make their journey?

Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Peter Bein
thinkbig@...
Atlanta, Georgia
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia 1938 Deportation #galicia

Peter Bein <thinkbig@...>
 

During the last week of October 1938, many German Jews of Polish
origin were forced by the Nazis to leave their homes, and were
deported to Poland.

My grandmother Malka BEIN who lived in Leipzig, Germany, at the
time, was one of those unfortunate victims who somehow ended up
in Gorlice, Poland, her birthplace. This was a journey of many
hundreds of miles. How did she get there?

I am interested to find out what happened to these deportees (who
numbered in the thousands) in the days following their
deportation. Is there any record of how they made their way >from
here to there? Is it known who helped them make their journey?

Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Peter Bein
thinkbig@...
Atlanta, Georgia
Re: . Bucharest to Bombay to New York? #general

Sarah L Meyer
 

Sheri,
The time frame mentioned is during the Shoah. At that time people got
out of Europe to any place willing to take them. They could wait safely
in India for their visas to New York, and then leave for the US whenever
possible. It is also possible that they could book an indirect passage,
but would never have been able to book a direct one.
I am sorry but I do not have any answers for your other questions.

Sarah L. M. Christiansen,
Georgetown, Texas
http://genealogy.smcactuary.net

Subject: Bucharest to Bombay to New York?
From: "Sheri" <iguana7slp@...>

...Why would they travel >from Bucharest to Bombay to get to New York? ...
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE:. Bucharest to Bombay to New York? #general

Sarah L Meyer
 

Sheri,
The time frame mentioned is during the Shoah. At that time people got
out of Europe to any place willing to take them. They could wait safely
in India for their visas to New York, and then leave for the US whenever
possible. It is also possible that they could book an indirect passage,
but would never have been able to book a direct one.
I am sorry but I do not have any answers for your other questions.

Sarah L. M. Christiansen,
Georgetown, Texas
http://genealogy.smcactuary.net

Subject: Bucharest to Bombay to New York?
From: "Sheri" <iguana7slp@...>

...Why would they travel >from Bucharest to Bombay to get to New York? ...
Re: Felik as a Jewish first name (Yiddish?) #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Avigdor Ben-Dov wrote

In my genealogy searches, I found the name Felik (transliterated from
the Hebrew) which could, perhaps, be also pronounced Pelek.
The name does not seem to fit common first names. Is this like Felix?
I don't think this is a common Polish name either. Any suggestions?
Perhaps this name is familiar to the List?
Hi Avigdor,

Felek is a common Polish diminutive form of name Feliks.
BTW Jewish Record Indexing - Poland database lists 19 times name Felek as
full name, Felik is listed 12 times, Felix is listed 136 times, Feliks 355
times, and Falik 401 times.

Best,

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Felik as a Jewish first name (Yiddish?) #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Avigdor Ben-Dov wrote

In my genealogy searches, I found the name Felik (transliterated from
the Hebrew) which could, perhaps, be also pronounced Pelek.
The name does not seem to fit common first names. Is this like Felix?
I don't think this is a common Polish name either. Any suggestions?
Perhaps this name is familiar to the List?
Hi Avigdor,

Felek is a common Polish diminutive form of name Feliks.
BTW Jewish Record Indexing - Poland database lists 19 times name Felek as
full name, Felik is listed 12 times, Felix is listed 136 times, Feliks 355
times, and Falik 401 times.

Best,

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab
244281 - 244300 of 669775