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Bribing your way out of concentration camp #general

helenebergman@...
 

Two stories:
1. My great uncle fled to Prague (obviously the wrong direction) to
avoid prosecution under the Neurenburg laws. My grandparents, who had
already fled to the US by the time the Nazis took over the
Sudentenland, received a letter >from his non-Jewish girlfriend asking
for money to bribe his way out of the camp to which he had been taken.
They did not send the money because they did not trust her and did not
believe such a thing was possible. To her last day, my grandmother
regretted not sending the money (which, as new refugees, they did not
have).

2. My friend's father, Jewish according to Hitler because of a Jewish
father, was interned in a camp after the Germans invaded the
Netherlands. His mother-in-law, an American citizen, was able to
arrange for his release.

Lanie Bergman
Long Island, NY
Searching: WOLFF, MEYER, FARFEL, SCHWARTZ,SPIVAK(OVSKY)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bribing your way out of concentration camp #general

helenebergman@...
 

Two stories:
1. My great uncle fled to Prague (obviously the wrong direction) to
avoid prosecution under the Neurenburg laws. My grandparents, who had
already fled to the US by the time the Nazis took over the
Sudentenland, received a letter >from his non-Jewish girlfriend asking
for money to bribe his way out of the camp to which he had been taken.
They did not send the money because they did not trust her and did not
believe such a thing was possible. To her last day, my grandmother
regretted not sending the money (which, as new refugees, they did not
have).

2. My friend's father, Jewish according to Hitler because of a Jewish
father, was interned in a camp after the Germans invaded the
Netherlands. His mother-in-law, an American citizen, was able to
arrange for his release.

Lanie Bergman
Long Island, NY
Searching: WOLFF, MEYER, FARFEL, SCHWARTZ,SPIVAK(OVSKY)


WULFF, GODCHAUX and MOREL #general

Lachaus
 

I am assisting Fabien GODCHAUX, who is a French-speaker, in finding
out some information on his relatives as follows:

He is seeking to find out the name of Angèle WULFF's husband. She
moved (around 1900) with her husband to England, who was probably
English. It is Fabien's understanding that her husband was a
passenger on the Titanic and did not survive.

Angèle WULFF was born in 1879 in Brussels and was the daughter of
Moritz WULFF and Emma GODCHAUX.

Emma GODCHAUX was the daughter of Oury GODCHAUX (Brussels) and
Charlotte MOREL (Brussels).

He would be interested in finding out whether Angèle WULFF and her
husband had any children - it is assumed that had at least one son.

Also any information on her parents Moritz WULFF and Emma GODCHAUX
and other children would be appreciated.

Many thanks for your assistance.
Paula HAUSER
Brussels


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WULFF, GODCHAUX and MOREL #general

Lachaus
 

I am assisting Fabien GODCHAUX, who is a French-speaker, in finding
out some information on his relatives as follows:

He is seeking to find out the name of Angèle WULFF's husband. She
moved (around 1900) with her husband to England, who was probably
English. It is Fabien's understanding that her husband was a
passenger on the Titanic and did not survive.

Angèle WULFF was born in 1879 in Brussels and was the daughter of
Moritz WULFF and Emma GODCHAUX.

Emma GODCHAUX was the daughter of Oury GODCHAUX (Brussels) and
Charlotte MOREL (Brussels).

He would be interested in finding out whether Angèle WULFF and her
husband had any children - it is assumed that had at least one son.

Also any information on her parents Moritz WULFF and Emma GODCHAUX
and other children would be appreciated.

Many thanks for your assistance.
Paula HAUSER
Brussels


Seeking researcher Myriam GABAY . #general

nigel wilson <wilsonettess@...>
 

Seeking researcher Myriam GABAY - no. 2126 - last known address
in 2000 - Maple Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11224.

If anyone knows Myriam or her family please contact me privately.

Thank you.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking researcher Myriam GABAY . #general

nigel wilson <wilsonettess@...>
 

Seeking researcher Myriam GABAY - no. 2126 - last known address
in 2000 - Maple Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11224.

If anyone knows Myriam or her family please contact me privately.

Thank you.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)


retired soldier #romania

michael@...
 

I just found my ggf's marriage record in the all Romanian Database. In the
column titled Father of Groom, was my gggf's name and designation "retired
soldier". Does anyone know of any way to cross referencing this
information? Are there lists of retired soldiers?



Michael Havlin Witkin
Brooklyn, NY 11217

Researching: GAVLIN/HAVLIN >from Kishnev, Zhlobin, BROOKS >from Rogachev


Romania SIG #Romania retired soldier #romania

michael@...
 

I just found my ggf's marriage record in the all Romanian Database. In the
column titled Father of Groom, was my gggf's name and designation "retired
soldier". Does anyone know of any way to cross referencing this
information? Are there lists of retired soldiers?



Michael Havlin Witkin
Brooklyn, NY 11217

Researching: GAVLIN/HAVLIN >from Kishnev, Zhlobin, BROOKS >from Rogachev


Katowice Archives records #poland

Israel P
 

It appears that I shall be needing to place an order with the Katowice
Archives in a few weeks.

I would be pleased to have anyone interested join me.

Please make sure that the record(s) that you want appear(s) in the JRI-
Poland database and that the words "Katowice Archives" appear in the
heading of the search results.

There is a summary of the available records in the Katowice Archives at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psakatowice.htm and I have no
knowledge of my own. I have never ordered >from the Katowice Archives
before and cannot speak responsibly about how long it takes etc. (I'm
just a regular guy who needs to place an order and wants help covering
bank expenses etc.)

This order will be >from the Archives, not >from the Civil Records Office.

Speak with me or write to me privately regarding details.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem


JRI Poland #Poland Katowice Archives records #poland

Israel P
 

It appears that I shall be needing to place an order with the Katowice
Archives in a few weeks.

I would be pleased to have anyone interested join me.

Please make sure that the record(s) that you want appear(s) in the JRI-
Poland database and that the words "Katowice Archives" appear in the
heading of the search results.

There is a summary of the available records in the Katowice Archives at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psakatowice.htm and I have no
knowledge of my own. I have never ordered >from the Katowice Archives
before and cannot speak responsibly about how long it takes etc. (I'm
just a regular guy who needs to place an order and wants help covering
bank expenses etc.)

This order will be >from the Archives, not >from the Civil Records Office.

Speak with me or write to me privately regarding details.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem


Ruth Sachs/Maryland obit info #general

dpasternack <dpasternack@...>
 

From: Deech10@...

"I am searching for the obituary of :
Ruth T Bannahan, died Oct 1, 1994, Maryland.
I am hoping she was the daughter of Samuel and Shirley SACHS. Would anyone
be able to look up this obituary for me?
Thank you
Diane De Milt
Deech10@...
Tucson, Arizona"

Response:

1) If she was buried in the Baltimore area, chances are that the funeral
arrangements were handled by Sol Levinson & Bros. They are currently the
only Jewish funeral home in Baltimore and provide services for Jewish
burials for who died in the greater Baltimore area (including Baltimore
City, Baltimore County, Howard County, etc) They also have some of the
records >from the Jack Lewis Funeral Home (which went out of business).
Levinson would have a record of her parents/copy of death certificate. You
can contact them at info@...

2) The Jewish Museum of Maryland has obituaries >from the Baltimore Jewish
Times, Contact :dweiner@...

The obit >from the Jewish Times will be the same as for the Baltimore Sun.
Please note however that unless Ruth's parents (or one parent) were living
at the time of her death, it is doubtful that the names of her parents will
be in the obit.

The Jewish Museum also has the following:

? Records of Jewish cemeteries in Maryland Cemetery burial listings now
available on-line for Rosedale, Mikro Kodesh-Beth Israel, Other East
Baltimore cemeteries, West Baltimore cemeteries, Chevrah Ahavas Chesed,
Cumberland Eastview Cemetery, and Frederick, Maryland!)
? Baltimore Jewish Times obituaries, 1919 to present
? Jack Lewis Funeral Home records, 1924-1939, 1956-1965
? Published and unpublished genealogies of Maryland Jewish families
? Baltimore City directories on microfiche/film, 1752-1930 (some years
missing)
? U.S. manuscript census, Baltimore and other parts of Maryland, 1900, 1910,
1920, 1930
? Passenger index for ships that arrived in the Port of Baltimore, 1820-1952
? Passenger manifests of ships that arrived in the Port of Baltimore,
1840-1920
? Memoirs of Jewish Life in Maryland and Europe
? Records of Jewish cemeteries in the Greater Baltimore area
? Circumcision (1836-1870, 1940-1967), midwife (1892-1919) , and marriage
(1850-1944) records of individual Baltimore-area mohels, midwives and rabbis

? H.I.A.S. arrival records (1911-1914, 1938-1953)
? Historical Database of Baltimore Religious Personnel
? Yizkor (Memorial) books of East European towns
? Hebrew Orphan Asylum records, 1873-1917
? Registries of Maryland military personnel in World Wars I and II

3) For copy of death certificate: Maryland Vital Records: Department of
Health and Mental Hygiene, Division of Vital Records
Reisterstown Plaza, 6550 Reisterstown Road
Baltimore, MD 21215
Phone: 410-764-3038 (recording 24 hours, with menu options)

If the person reporting the death knew the names of her parents, the
information will be on the death certificate.

Hope this is of some help.

Dianne Pasternack


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ruth Sachs/Maryland obit info #general

dpasternack <dpasternack@...>
 

From: Deech10@...

"I am searching for the obituary of :
Ruth T Bannahan, died Oct 1, 1994, Maryland.
I am hoping she was the daughter of Samuel and Shirley SACHS. Would anyone
be able to look up this obituary for me?
Thank you
Diane De Milt
Deech10@...
Tucson, Arizona"

Response:

1) If she was buried in the Baltimore area, chances are that the funeral
arrangements were handled by Sol Levinson & Bros. They are currently the
only Jewish funeral home in Baltimore and provide services for Jewish
burials for who died in the greater Baltimore area (including Baltimore
City, Baltimore County, Howard County, etc) They also have some of the
records >from the Jack Lewis Funeral Home (which went out of business).
Levinson would have a record of her parents/copy of death certificate. You
can contact them at info@...

2) The Jewish Museum of Maryland has obituaries >from the Baltimore Jewish
Times, Contact :dweiner@...

The obit >from the Jewish Times will be the same as for the Baltimore Sun.
Please note however that unless Ruth's parents (or one parent) were living
at the time of her death, it is doubtful that the names of her parents will
be in the obit.

The Jewish Museum also has the following:

? Records of Jewish cemeteries in Maryland Cemetery burial listings now
available on-line for Rosedale, Mikro Kodesh-Beth Israel, Other East
Baltimore cemeteries, West Baltimore cemeteries, Chevrah Ahavas Chesed,
Cumberland Eastview Cemetery, and Frederick, Maryland!)
? Baltimore Jewish Times obituaries, 1919 to present
? Jack Lewis Funeral Home records, 1924-1939, 1956-1965
? Published and unpublished genealogies of Maryland Jewish families
? Baltimore City directories on microfiche/film, 1752-1930 (some years
missing)
? U.S. manuscript census, Baltimore and other parts of Maryland, 1900, 1910,
1920, 1930
? Passenger index for ships that arrived in the Port of Baltimore, 1820-1952
? Passenger manifests of ships that arrived in the Port of Baltimore,
1840-1920
? Memoirs of Jewish Life in Maryland and Europe
? Records of Jewish cemeteries in the Greater Baltimore area
? Circumcision (1836-1870, 1940-1967), midwife (1892-1919) , and marriage
(1850-1944) records of individual Baltimore-area mohels, midwives and rabbis

? H.I.A.S. arrival records (1911-1914, 1938-1953)
? Historical Database of Baltimore Religious Personnel
? Yizkor (Memorial) books of East European towns
? Hebrew Orphan Asylum records, 1873-1917
? Registries of Maryland military personnel in World Wars I and II

3) For copy of death certificate: Maryland Vital Records: Department of
Health and Mental Hygiene, Division of Vital Records
Reisterstown Plaza, 6550 Reisterstown Road
Baltimore, MD 21215
Phone: 410-764-3038 (recording 24 hours, with menu options)

If the person reporting the death knew the names of her parents, the
information will be on the death certificate.

Hope this is of some help.

Dianne Pasternack


Re: Rachel BROWN in London, England #general

Saul Marks <saulmarks@...>
 

Dear Kenneth,

You can trace your faily up to 1908, so the next step should be to
find them on the 1911 census for either Scotland or England. The 1911
census for England & Wales is at www.1911census.co.uk. I think the
Scottish counterpart may be at www.scotlandspeople.org.uk (or similar
domain).

Your next step woukd be to find Faye's marriage, which presumably
took place in England. The birth, marriage and death indexes for
England & Wales >from 1837 to date are searchable on Ancestry.com on
a full subscription. For marriage (& deaths), you'll need to look at
each quarter's index for each year, though, but it shouldn't take too
long. Once you have the marriage, you can search the birth index for
children of that marriage. The birth index is fully digitised.

Hope this helps. Any problems, contact me privately.

Regards,

Saul Marks
Liverpool, England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Rachel BROWN in London, England #general

Saul Marks <saulmarks@...>
 

Dear Kenneth,

You can trace your faily up to 1908, so the next step should be to
find them on the 1911 census for either Scotland or England. The 1911
census for England & Wales is at www.1911census.co.uk. I think the
Scottish counterpart may be at www.scotlandspeople.org.uk (or similar
domain).

Your next step woukd be to find Faye's marriage, which presumably
took place in England. The birth, marriage and death indexes for
England & Wales >from 1837 to date are searchable on Ancestry.com on
a full subscription. For marriage (& deaths), you'll need to look at
each quarter's index for each year, though, but it shouldn't take too
long. Once you have the marriage, you can search the birth index for
children of that marriage. The birth index is fully digitised.

Hope this helps. Any problems, contact me privately.

Regards,

Saul Marks
Liverpool, England


Re: Rabbi Shmuel Amdurer #rabbinic

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

I am almost sure we are (very) distant cousins.

We have a similiar line of descent >from the MaHaRSHA"L. All the names
you mention appear in our tree but as there are many Shmuel ben Arieh
and Arieh ben Shmuel and Efraim Fishels in the tree I can not place
the exact generations you are refering to.

The Efraim Fishel we are descendant from, was >from Ludmir (I believe
he was a Parnass of the Four Lands),and was the brother of the author
of the "Be'er Heitev" . His son and grandson are R' Shmuel and R'
Arieh Leib who were Rabbis of Kremenetz. Their son-in-law was a Yosef
from Breznitz (?) who was supposedly the Rav of the town.
If you, Michael, or anyone else on this forum is interested in more
details as to our line please contact me so we can share information.
The so-called missing link is information about this Yosef who we
don't know much about.

Shavua tov

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Michael Waas <panthersfan27@...> wrote:
Hi,

My cousin and I have been discussing our ancestral line of late since the
original information I had has come into doubt (that we descend >from Rabbi
Samuel ben Rav Chaim Cheikel, Admorim of Amdur). It appears, pretty
conclusively, that we descend >from The Gaon of Minsk, Chief Rabbi of Minsk
and the Upper District, Rabbi Shmuel Amdurer. My cousin knows his ancestry
quite well (Rabbi Shmuel Amdurer is the son of Rabbi Yosef Amdurer, the son
of Rabbi Shmuel Feivish who wrote "Beit Shmuel," the son of Rabbi Or-shraga
Feivish, the son of Yehuda-Leib of Voroslav...Shmuel Feivish was the
son-in-law of Rabbi Arie Leib ben R. Ephraim Fischel, who was the descendant
of the MaHaRaSHaL and the Rema (Moses Isserlish).

Now the question that we both have is how our family fits. We know that our
LCA Joseph Amdur(sky or er) was born on the 20th of October, 1837 in Mogilev
to Shmuel and Rachel (Rokhilia). Shmuel was the son of Mendel and Rachel was
the daughter of Yosef. Mendel was the son of the Gaon of Minsk >from what we
know in the Hebrew source records...But what is troublesome is the fact that
it appears my g-g-g grandfather Menachem Mendel David Amdur, the son of
Joseph Amdursky, was born as early as when Joseph was 13 and no later than
Joseph's 15th birthday because my g-g-grandfather, Morris Amdur, was born
between 1866-1870 (we don't know for sure at this time). We are looking for
help in how this could be possible because it appears he is several years
senior to the rest of his siblings. Another troubling fact is the fact that
we can't figure out why the family would have gone back to Mogilev since it
appears they left for Jerusalem in 1841 but my line of the family is all
clearly born in Mogilev and the youngest brother (Harry Hersche Amdursky)
was born between 1872 and 1877 in Mogilev, while the rest of the siblings
all seem to have been born in Jerusalem!


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Rabbi Shmuel Amdurer #rabbinic

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

I am almost sure we are (very) distant cousins.

We have a similiar line of descent >from the MaHaRSHA"L. All the names
you mention appear in our tree but as there are many Shmuel ben Arieh
and Arieh ben Shmuel and Efraim Fishels in the tree I can not place
the exact generations you are refering to.

The Efraim Fishel we are descendant from, was >from Ludmir (I believe
he was a Parnass of the Four Lands),and was the brother of the author
of the "Be'er Heitev" . His son and grandson are R' Shmuel and R'
Arieh Leib who were Rabbis of Kremenetz. Their son-in-law was a Yosef
from Breznitz (?) who was supposedly the Rav of the town.
If you, Michael, or anyone else on this forum is interested in more
details as to our line please contact me so we can share information.
The so-called missing link is information about this Yosef who we
don't know much about.

Shavua tov

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Michael Waas <panthersfan27@...> wrote:
Hi,

My cousin and I have been discussing our ancestral line of late since the
original information I had has come into doubt (that we descend >from Rabbi
Samuel ben Rav Chaim Cheikel, Admorim of Amdur). It appears, pretty
conclusively, that we descend >from The Gaon of Minsk, Chief Rabbi of Minsk
and the Upper District, Rabbi Shmuel Amdurer. My cousin knows his ancestry
quite well (Rabbi Shmuel Amdurer is the son of Rabbi Yosef Amdurer, the son
of Rabbi Shmuel Feivish who wrote "Beit Shmuel," the son of Rabbi Or-shraga
Feivish, the son of Yehuda-Leib of Voroslav...Shmuel Feivish was the
son-in-law of Rabbi Arie Leib ben R. Ephraim Fischel, who was the descendant
of the MaHaRaSHaL and the Rema (Moses Isserlish).

Now the question that we both have is how our family fits. We know that our
LCA Joseph Amdur(sky or er) was born on the 20th of October, 1837 in Mogilev
to Shmuel and Rachel (Rokhilia). Shmuel was the son of Mendel and Rachel was
the daughter of Yosef. Mendel was the son of the Gaon of Minsk >from what we
know in the Hebrew source records...But what is troublesome is the fact that
it appears my g-g-g grandfather Menachem Mendel David Amdur, the son of
Joseph Amdursky, was born as early as when Joseph was 13 and no later than
Joseph's 15th birthday because my g-g-grandfather, Morris Amdur, was born
between 1866-1870 (we don't know for sure at this time). We are looking for
help in how this could be possible because it appears he is several years
senior to the rest of his siblings. Another troubling fact is the fact that
we can't figure out why the family would have gone back to Mogilev since it
appears they left for Jerusalem in 1841 but my line of the family is all
clearly born in Mogilev and the youngest brother (Harry Hersche Amdursky)
was born between 1872 and 1877 in Mogilev, while the rest of the siblings
all seem to have been born in Jerusalem!


Viewmate Hebrew to English gravestone translation requests #general

Elynn Boss - genealogy <bossgen_1@...>
 

I have posted three gravestone photos to viewmate. They are in Hebrew and I
am hoping that someone will be able to translate them to English.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=13028

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=13029

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=13030

Thanks very much

Elynn Boss

MODERATOR NOTE: Please use the form under each image to reply.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate Hebrew to English gravestone translation requests #general

Elynn Boss - genealogy <bossgen_1@...>
 

I have posted three gravestone photos to viewmate. They are in Hebrew and I
am hoping that someone will be able to translate them to English.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=13028

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=13029

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=13030

Thanks very much

Elynn Boss

MODERATOR NOTE: Please use the form under each image to reply.


Re: Gor... Street in Brooklyn NY, 1912 #general

Alan Shuchat
 

On Jun 27, 10:32 pm, jgro...@... (Joan Rosen) wrote:
...
On the Ellis Island database online I found a record for Mordko Goldmann,
going to his brother Y. Goldmann at 517 (or 577) Gorome or Gorosse Street in
Brooklyn. The hand writing is neat and clear but still not legible to me.
Could it be Jerome Street?

Alan Shuchat, Newton, Mass.
ahs613 at gmail dot com

SHUCHAT (Talnoye, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka),
Tavrig, Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoye), KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
SILVERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets), BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolskiy)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Gor... Street in Brooklyn NY, 1912 #general

Alan Shuchat
 

On Jun 27, 10:32 pm, jgro...@... (Joan Rosen) wrote:
...
On the Ellis Island database online I found a record for Mordko Goldmann,
going to his brother Y. Goldmann at 517 (or 577) Gorome or Gorosse Street in
Brooklyn. The hand writing is neat and clear but still not legible to me.
Could it be Jerome Street?

Alan Shuchat, Newton, Mass.
ahs613 at gmail dot com

SHUCHAT (Talnoye, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka),
Tavrig, Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoye), KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
SILVERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets), BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolskiy)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)