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Re: Utility of 40+ Year Old US Phone Numbers #general

Barbara Ellman
 

In response to Marc's question on existence of old telephone company
records: The only remnant that exists are old phone books. These can
be a wealth of information showing neighbors and possibly relatives
that lived nearby. Old phone books can be found in many public
libraries. The 42nd Street Library in Manhattan has an extensive
library of phone books for many cities within the US and
internationally.

Business records of the phone company are kept for the requisite
number of years required legally and are then destroyed.

Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ
Former employee of AT&T, NY Telephone and several other telephone
related companies


Re: Utility of 40+ Year Old US Phone Numbers #general

Marc DVer <mdver@...>
 

The answers I have gotten has led me to believe that I was not clear
enough. I am not asking how to find a phone number for someone >from 40
years ago. What I am trying to do is use a phone number for someone
from a long time as a lead to get more information. I can go to
Ancestry.com and get phone numbers >from very old phone books easily
enough. I was asking what I can do with that information.

For example, suppose I find that Ploni Smith in Sometown NJ in 1940 had
the phone number 4623. What can I do with that information?

I am sorry I was not clear enough.

Sincerely,
Marc DVer

Marc DVer wrote:
Is there some way to use a US phone number >from 40 years or more ago to
get more information about someone? Would there be records still in
existence >from the phone company that serviced the particular phone number?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Utility of 40+ Year Old US Phone Numbers #general

Barbara Ellman
 

In response to Marc's question on existence of old telephone company
records: The only remnant that exists are old phone books. These can
be a wealth of information showing neighbors and possibly relatives
that lived nearby. Old phone books can be found in many public
libraries. The 42nd Street Library in Manhattan has an extensive
library of phone books for many cities within the US and
internationally.

Business records of the phone company are kept for the requisite
number of years required legally and are then destroyed.

Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ
Former employee of AT&T, NY Telephone and several other telephone
related companies


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Utility of 40+ Year Old US Phone Numbers #general

Marc DVer <mdver@...>
 

The answers I have gotten has led me to believe that I was not clear
enough. I am not asking how to find a phone number for someone >from 40
years ago. What I am trying to do is use a phone number for someone
from a long time as a lead to get more information. I can go to
Ancestry.com and get phone numbers >from very old phone books easily
enough. I was asking what I can do with that information.

For example, suppose I find that Ploni Smith in Sometown NJ in 1940 had
the phone number 4623. What can I do with that information?

I am sorry I was not clear enough.

Sincerely,
Marc DVer

Marc DVer wrote:
Is there some way to use a US phone number >from 40 years or more ago to
get more information about someone? Would there be records still in
existence >from the phone company that serviced the particular phone number?


Looking for Hlerman CLARK Germany to NY 3/20/1888 #germany

SandyR <sbr19@...>
 

Help
I am trying to find the emigration records of HYMAN CLARK.
According to his petition for Naturalization, he came to America March 20
1888, and was born September 2, 1866 in Emp. of Germany.
It also gives his Port of Arrival as NY NY. I was hoping to find the records
to see if there is any vital information on the manifest.

Sandy Roth Monsey NY <sbr19@verizon.net>


Re: Utility of 40+ Year Old US Phone Numbers #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

Depending on the city in which the phone was located, there may be a
Criss-Cross Directory in a library or archive that would give you the street
address and name of the person listed for that number. Criss-Cross
Directories were phone books with listings in order of the phone number,
rather than in alphabetical order. They were used by governments (police,
etc.) and by sales organizations.

It is also worth remembering that some people in the US still live in the
same place they lived 40 years ago, and some of those will not have changed
their phone number in that time. My parents moved the family into a house in
1965. My brother owns it now, and the phone number is the same one we got
when we moved in there 44 years ago.

Admittedly, this will be a small fraction of the total, but it might be
worth calling the number, just to see who answers.

"Marc DVer" <mdver@dver.name> wrote
Is there some way to use a US phone number >from 40 years or more ago to
get more information about someone? Would there be records still in
existence >from the phone company that serviced the particular phone
number?
MODERATOR NOTE: Peter Zavon's observation is also the reason for the
JewishGen guideline that requires us to edit out any exact address in a
post that identifies a resident of that address within the last 72 years
(the blackout period of the US Census). Someone in the family may still
live there.


German SIG #Germany Looking for Hlerman CLARK Germany to NY 3/20/1888 #germany

SandyR <sbr19@...>
 

Help
I am trying to find the emigration records of HYMAN CLARK.
According to his petition for Naturalization, he came to America March 20
1888, and was born September 2, 1866 in Emp. of Germany.
It also gives his Port of Arrival as NY NY. I was hoping to find the records
to see if there is any vital information on the manifest.

Sandy Roth Monsey NY <sbr19@verizon.net>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Utility of 40+ Year Old US Phone Numbers #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

Depending on the city in which the phone was located, there may be a
Criss-Cross Directory in a library or archive that would give you the street
address and name of the person listed for that number. Criss-Cross
Directories were phone books with listings in order of the phone number,
rather than in alphabetical order. They were used by governments (police,
etc.) and by sales organizations.

It is also worth remembering that some people in the US still live in the
same place they lived 40 years ago, and some of those will not have changed
their phone number in that time. My parents moved the family into a house in
1965. My brother owns it now, and the phone number is the same one we got
when we moved in there 44 years ago.

Admittedly, this will be a small fraction of the total, but it might be
worth calling the number, just to see who answers.

"Marc DVer" <mdver@dver.name> wrote
Is there some way to use a US phone number >from 40 years or more ago to
get more information about someone? Would there be records still in
existence >from the phone company that serviced the particular phone
number?
MODERATOR NOTE: Peter Zavon's observation is also the reason for the
JewishGen guideline that requires us to edit out any exact address in a
post that identifies a resident of that address within the last 72 years
(the blackout period of the US Census). Someone in the family may still
live there.


Re: 1910 Census Questions and Weird Answers #general

Susan&David
 

For questions on the meaning of census form entries there are
Enumerators Instructions for the years 1850 - 1950 on
http://usa.ipums.org/usa/voliii/tEnumInstr.shtml

David Rosen
Boston, MA

Marc DVer wrote:

I located the 1910 census record for my great-grandfather. The final
four questions on the form are... . I am sure I am missing something
obvious, but perhaps someone can tell me what information is being
conveyed?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1910 Census Questions and Weird Answers #general

Susan&David
 

For questions on the meaning of census form entries there are
Enumerators Instructions for the years 1850 - 1950 on
http://usa.ipums.org/usa/voliii/tEnumInstr.shtml

David Rosen
Boston, MA

Marc DVer wrote:

I located the 1910 census record for my great-grandfather. The final
four questions on the form are... . I am sure I am missing something
obvious, but perhaps someone can tell me what information is being
conveyed?


Re: Multi-language online translator #general

Victoria Barkoff
 

On June 27, Scott Schultz wrote about sites that translate from
Russian and Ukrainian.

Google Translate also translates web pages, and typed or pasted text
from or into more than 40 different languages including: Bulgarian,
Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, French, German, Greek, Hebrew,
Hungarian, Italian, Lithuanian, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Russian,
Spanish and Ukrainian.

http://translate.google.com/#

Victoria Barkoff
Montreal, Canada


Re: Mark Coleman (formerly Marks Levy) Barmitzvah #general

Barbara S. Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

No idea when your dad was born, but in the 'old days' there were not Bar
Mitzvah extravaganzas as there are today.

A boy automatically becomes a Bar Mitzvah on the day of his 13th birthday.
He may have gone to shul, been given an aliyah, layned Torah, and chanted
the appropriate Haftorah. He may have given a D'var Torah -- a talk on a
section of Torah. There may have been a celebratory meal - but hardly ever
the Hollywood-style productions which proliferate today.

As for an email addy for the Jewish Chronicle, try Google.

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Miriam Delorie" <MiriamD@exact.co.za>

After many years of research on my father (Mark Coleman) and
his immediate family and just not finding the information I need, I
thought to maybe try any records of my father's barmitzvah which I am
presuming he must have had and am also presuming that as he was born in
Whitchapel, that his barmitzvah must have taken place in that area.
Would anybody be able to direct me to which site I must try and
research, ie. The Jewish Chronicle ? Would anyone have this email
address pse ?


Re: Mark Coleman (formerly Marks Levy) Barmitzvah #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Miriam Delorie wrote on 29 jun 2009 in soc.genealogy.jewish:
Good morning,
Good evening to you too, Miriam,

After many years of research on my father (Mark Coleman)
and his immediate family and just not finding the information I need,
I thought to maybe try any records of my father's barmitzvah which I
am presuming he must have had and am also presuming that as he was
born in Whitchapel, that his barmitzvah must have taken place in that
area. Would anybody be able to direct me to which site I must try and
research, ie. The Jewish Chronicle ? Would anyone have this email
address pse ?
Since Bar Mitzwa primarily is something you "become", and not something you
"have", unlike a Bris Mila, I doubt it was so noteworthy in that time and
age to have it registered.

However, if you have, and you most probably do, the exact date of his
becoming 13 years and one day, perhaps we could be more helpful in
searching. And what was his motheres maiden name?

I do not see any Marc Coleman born in Whitechapel before 1925 in
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Maybe in Windsor 1901?

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Multi-language online translator #general

Victoria Barkoff
 

On June 27, Scott Schultz wrote about sites that translate from
Russian and Ukrainian.

Google Translate also translates web pages, and typed or pasted text
from or into more than 40 different languages including: Bulgarian,
Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, French, German, Greek, Hebrew,
Hungarian, Italian, Lithuanian, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Russian,
Spanish and Ukrainian.

http://translate.google.com/#

Victoria Barkoff
Montreal, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Mark Coleman (formerly Marks Levy) Barmitzvah #general

Barbara S. Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

No idea when your dad was born, but in the 'old days' there were not Bar
Mitzvah extravaganzas as there are today.

A boy automatically becomes a Bar Mitzvah on the day of his 13th birthday.
He may have gone to shul, been given an aliyah, layned Torah, and chanted
the appropriate Haftorah. He may have given a D'var Torah -- a talk on a
section of Torah. There may have been a celebratory meal - but hardly ever
the Hollywood-style productions which proliferate today.

As for an email addy for the Jewish Chronicle, try Google.

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Miriam Delorie" <MiriamD@exact.co.za>

After many years of research on my father (Mark Coleman) and
his immediate family and just not finding the information I need, I
thought to maybe try any records of my father's barmitzvah which I am
presuming he must have had and am also presuming that as he was born in
Whitchapel, that his barmitzvah must have taken place in that area.
Would anybody be able to direct me to which site I must try and
research, ie. The Jewish Chronicle ? Would anyone have this email
address pse ?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Mark Coleman (formerly Marks Levy) Barmitzvah #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Miriam Delorie wrote on 29 jun 2009 in soc.genealogy.jewish:
Good morning,
Good evening to you too, Miriam,

After many years of research on my father (Mark Coleman)
and his immediate family and just not finding the information I need,
I thought to maybe try any records of my father's barmitzvah which I
am presuming he must have had and am also presuming that as he was
born in Whitchapel, that his barmitzvah must have taken place in that
area. Would anybody be able to direct me to which site I must try and
research, ie. The Jewish Chronicle ? Would anyone have this email
address pse ?
Since Bar Mitzwa primarily is something you "become", and not something you
"have", unlike a Bris Mila, I doubt it was so noteworthy in that time and
age to have it registered.

However, if you have, and you most probably do, the exact date of his
becoming 13 years and one day, perhaps we could be more helpful in
searching. And what was his motheres maiden name?

I do not see any Marc Coleman born in Whitechapel before 1925 in
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Maybe in Windsor 1901?

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


Rakow Web Site #general

ruthie <ruth@...>
 

Dear Researchers!

I have recently posted a new shtetl page for Rakow, Belarus, 53°58'N,
27°03'E, 22 Mile WNW of Minsk. www.rakowshtetl.com. The site is a
work in progress and many of the pages are still under construction.

If your ancestors are >from Rakow and you want to commemorate your
family I will gladly set up a page for you, similar to the pages I've
already created: http://www.rakowshtetl.com/Photos.htm

If you have photos, articles, old newspapers or any other data related
to Rakow, I'll be happy to add them to the web site.

I will appreciate any comments and/or suggestions that you may have.
I can be reached at ruth@wilnai.com.

I hope that in the near future Eilat Gordin Levitan and I will merge
our two sites. Eilat's site is at
http://www.eilatgordinlevitan.com/rakov/rakov.html

Ruth Wilnai


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rakow Web Site #general

ruthie <ruth@...>
 

Dear Researchers!

I have recently posted a new shtetl page for Rakow, Belarus, 53°58'N,
27°03'E, 22 Mile WNW of Minsk. www.rakowshtetl.com. The site is a
work in progress and many of the pages are still under construction.

If your ancestors are >from Rakow and you want to commemorate your
family I will gladly set up a page for you, similar to the pages I've
already created: http://www.rakowshtetl.com/Photos.htm

If you have photos, articles, old newspapers or any other data related
to Rakow, I'll be happy to add them to the web site.

I will appreciate any comments and/or suggestions that you may have.
I can be reached at ruth@wilnai.com.

I hope that in the near future Eilat Gordin Levitan and I will merge
our two sites. Eilat's site is at
http://www.eilatgordinlevitan.com/rakov/rakov.html

Ruth Wilnai


Re: Is there a Jewish Cemetery in Lviv/Lwow #galicia

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

Hello. Has the Cemetery photo been identified? Thank you.

Sylvia

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
President Emerita
Genealogy Workbook Editor
JGSPBCI, Florida

Irit Shem-Tov <osemtov1@zahav.net.il> wrote:

<<I have learnt that the Jewish Cemetery of Lwow had been
ploughed down and became a market place. However, I have found a
picture at Flickr, taken by Adam Sofen, of a Jewish Cemetery. You
may see the picture at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamsofen/172718711 ...>>


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Is there a Jewish Cemetery in Lviv/Lwow #galicia

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

Hello. Has the Cemetery photo been identified? Thank you.

Sylvia

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
President Emerita
Genealogy Workbook Editor
JGSPBCI, Florida

Irit Shem-Tov <osemtov1@zahav.net.il> wrote:

<<I have learnt that the Jewish Cemetery of Lwow had been
ploughed down and became a market place. However, I have found a
picture at Flickr, taken by Adam Sofen, of a Jewish Cemetery. You
may see the picture at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamsofen/172718711 ...>>