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Re: Marineck, Bankoez, Braneck transcription errors - could they all be Brauneck? #germany

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

re Marineck, Bankoez, Bavaria, and Braneck, Bavaria

Unfortunately, I have not seen the originals but what about Brauneck for all
these transcription errors? Is that a likely guess? I know it is a picturesque
mountain in Bavaria, but was there a Jewish community nearby?

There is also a toponymic BRAUNECK, but again, I do not know if there were
any Jews called BRAUNECK - luckily there are no holocaust victims of that name
or >from that location. However, there are many TRIEST victims >from Bavaria,
Mittelfranken and Oberfranken - so there are indeed links to the region.

Celia Male - London, U.K. <celiamale@yahoo.com>


German SIG #Germany Re: Marineck, Bankoez, Braneck transcription errors - could they all be Brauneck? #germany

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

re Marineck, Bankoez, Bavaria, and Braneck, Bavaria

Unfortunately, I have not seen the originals but what about Brauneck for all
these transcription errors? Is that a likely guess? I know it is a picturesque
mountain in Bavaria, but was there a Jewish community nearby?

There is also a toponymic BRAUNECK, but again, I do not know if there were
any Jews called BRAUNECK - luckily there are no holocaust victims of that name
or >from that location. However, there are many TRIEST victims >from Bavaria,
Mittelfranken and Oberfranken - so there are indeed links to the region.

Celia Male - London, U.K. <celiamale@yahoo.com>


Re: Marineck, Bankoez, Braneck transcription errors - could they all be Brauneck? #germany

Steven Leof <sleof.sln25@...>
 

Thanks to everyone for their interesting notes which I will follow-up.
I have also found out that there are some family papers (including
some in German) that were lodged at the American Jewish Archives in
Cincinnati in 1963. I have requested copies which I hope will yield
some information....

Regards, Steven LEOF, London, England. <sleof.sln25@london.edu>


German SIG #Germany Re: Marineck, Bankoez, Braneck transcription errors - could they all be Brauneck? #germany

Steven Leof <sleof.sln25@...>
 

Thanks to everyone for their interesting notes which I will follow-up.
I have also found out that there are some family papers (including
some in German) that were lodged at the American Jewish Archives in
Cincinnati in 1963. I have requested copies which I hope will yield
some information....

Regards, Steven LEOF, London, England. <sleof.sln25@london.edu>


Trying to get a line on my paternal grandfather's family #poland

David Schreiber
 

Hi,

I'm pretty new to this, so please excuse if I'm asking too much or
belaboring the obvious. My paternal grandfather came to the States
around 1903 if the census records can be believed. His name in this
country became Sol Schreiber, though I don't know when this name took
effect. According to my father and cousin, the actual family name was
something like Schrebnetzky, but no one knows exactly what it was. This
makes it very difficult to do any surname searching, since there are so
many possibilities.

Someone uncovered his draft registrations and one of these documents says
that he came >from Lomza and that the country was Russia. I understand that
the borders in those days were somewhat fluid and that Lomza is at least
currently in Poland. It seems also that there is a city called Lomza in
Bialystok province and a Lomza Gubernia, so I can't swear which place was
his point of origin. I also can't say what exactly his given name was in
Europe.

According to my cousin, there were two other brothers who came though I
don't know whether they came at the same time or not. The brothers were
Ben and Isidor (my cousin's grandfather). I also, don't know how many if
any family remained behind. I looked in the Yizkor list for Lomza and some
names could be related through substantial changes, but none are clearly
related. Any help in piecing this puzzle together would be appreciated.

David Schreiber

Looking for:
SCHREIBER,SCHREBNETZY, or something similar
Place:Lomza in Poland or Russia

MODERATOR'S NOTE: We suggest you start by searching the JRI-Poland
database (go to www.jri-poland.org and click on "Search Database")
You can choose Lomza Gubernia as a geographic area and search for
the name SCHREIBER (sounds like) or SZRAJBER (starts with)


JRI Poland #Poland Trying to get a line on my paternal grandfather's family #poland

David Schreiber
 

Hi,

I'm pretty new to this, so please excuse if I'm asking too much or
belaboring the obvious. My paternal grandfather came to the States
around 1903 if the census records can be believed. His name in this
country became Sol Schreiber, though I don't know when this name took
effect. According to my father and cousin, the actual family name was
something like Schrebnetzky, but no one knows exactly what it was. This
makes it very difficult to do any surname searching, since there are so
many possibilities.

Someone uncovered his draft registrations and one of these documents says
that he came >from Lomza and that the country was Russia. I understand that
the borders in those days were somewhat fluid and that Lomza is at least
currently in Poland. It seems also that there is a city called Lomza in
Bialystok province and a Lomza Gubernia, so I can't swear which place was
his point of origin. I also can't say what exactly his given name was in
Europe.

According to my cousin, there were two other brothers who came though I
don't know whether they came at the same time or not. The brothers were
Ben and Isidor (my cousin's grandfather). I also, don't know how many if
any family remained behind. I looked in the Yizkor list for Lomza and some
names could be related through substantial changes, but none are clearly
related. Any help in piecing this puzzle together would be appreciated.

David Schreiber

Looking for:
SCHREIBER,SCHREBNETZY, or something similar
Place:Lomza in Poland or Russia

MODERATOR'S NOTE: We suggest you start by searching the JRI-Poland
database (go to www.jri-poland.org and click on "Search Database")
You can choose Lomza Gubernia as a geographic area and search for
the name SCHREIBER (sounds like) or SZRAJBER (starts with)


Trying to get a line on my paternal grandfather's family #poland

David Schreiber
 

Hi,

I'm pretty new to this, so please excuse if I'm asking too much or
belaboring the obvious. My paternal grandfather came to the States
around 1903 if the census records can be believed. His name in this
country became Sol Schreiber, though I don't know when this name took
effect. According to my father and cousin, the actual family name was
something like Schrebnetzky, but noone knows exactly what it was. This
makes it very difficult to do any surname searching, since there are so
many possibilities. Someone uncovered his draft registrations and one of
these documents says that he came >from Lomza and that the country was
Russia. I understand that the borders in those days were somewhat fluid
and that Lomza is at least currently in Poland. It seems also that there
is a city called Lomza in Bialystok province and a Lomza Gubernia, so I
can't swear which place was his point of origin. I also can't say what
exactly his given name was in Europe.

According to my cousin, there were two other brothers who came though
I don't know whether they came at the same time or not. The brothers
were Ben and Isidor (my cousin's grandfather). I also, don't know how
many if any family remained behind. I looked in the Yizkor list for
Lomza and some names could be related through substantial changes, but
none are clearly related. Any help in piecing this puzzle together would
be appreciated.

David Schreiber

Looking for:
SCHREIBER,SCHREBNETZY, or something similar
Place:Lomza in Poland or Russia


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Trying to get a line on my paternal grandfather's family #poland

David Schreiber
 

Hi,

I'm pretty new to this, so please excuse if I'm asking too much or
belaboring the obvious. My paternal grandfather came to the States
around 1903 if the census records can be believed. His name in this
country became Sol Schreiber, though I don't know when this name took
effect. According to my father and cousin, the actual family name was
something like Schrebnetzky, but noone knows exactly what it was. This
makes it very difficult to do any surname searching, since there are so
many possibilities. Someone uncovered his draft registrations and one of
these documents says that he came >from Lomza and that the country was
Russia. I understand that the borders in those days were somewhat fluid
and that Lomza is at least currently in Poland. It seems also that there
is a city called Lomza in Bialystok province and a Lomza Gubernia, so I
can't swear which place was his point of origin. I also can't say what
exactly his given name was in Europe.

According to my cousin, there were two other brothers who came though
I don't know whether they came at the same time or not. The brothers
were Ben and Isidor (my cousin's grandfather). I also, don't know how
many if any family remained behind. I looked in the Yizkor list for
Lomza and some names could be related through substantial changes, but
none are clearly related. Any help in piecing this puzzle together would
be appreciated.

David Schreiber

Looking for:
SCHREIBER,SCHREBNETZY, or something similar
Place:Lomza in Poland or Russia


District Regional Groups and the Volunteers who Coordinate them #lithuania

Dorfleiv@...
 

The uyezd or district was the administrative level at which the revision and
family lists were organized in 19th century Lithuania. When LitvakSIG was
first founded more than 10 years ago, we.organized research groups on a
district basis to reflect the way the census-type lists were organized,
and also in recognition that most families lived not only in one town but
in a group of towns near each other.

The district groups deal with revision lists, family lists, tax lists and
other types of records which were kept by district. We encourage people to
join together to acquire data so that this extremely valuable genealogical
information can be memoralized via the All Lithuania Database (ALD).

Many family history researchers soon discover that our ancestors did not
come >from just one place. They moved >from shtetl to shtetl for a variety of
reasons. The effects of fires, plagues, famine, and pogroms were all part
of this mobility. There were many positive reasons for the movement as well,
eg. education, business and marriage.

The work of these District Groups does not just happen. Today I would
particularly like to mention a team of dedicated workers. They are the
District Research Group Coordinators (DC for short). LitvakSIG relies
heavily on this team of volunteers who over many years have given their
time to this organization. Over the past eight months, I have come to
know them and the tasks they carry out.

They raise the funds so that the tax and voters lists and revision lists
can be translated. They proofread those lists after they have been
translated and they circulate them to the qualified donors in their
groups. A year after circulation to qualified donors, those records are
added to
the All Lithuania Database (ALD), where they are searchable at no charge
by a large audience of interested family historians. DCs also give their
time to help others locate information about their families, answering many
of your questions. Some of them have been doing this job for many years and
at the moment we have quite a few new ones. They and their email addresses
are listed on the LitvakSIG home page at www.LitvakSIG.org . I hope many
more of you will join the District Research Groups and help us continue
the work.

All of this takes commitment to the memory of our families and the
communities they once lived in. I would personally like to thank them
all, past and present.

Dorothy Leivers
Coordinator of the District Research Groups


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania District Regional Groups and the Volunteers who Coordinate them #lithuania

Dorfleiv@...
 

The uyezd or district was the administrative level at which the revision and
family lists were organized in 19th century Lithuania. When LitvakSIG was
first founded more than 10 years ago, we.organized research groups on a
district basis to reflect the way the census-type lists were organized,
and also in recognition that most families lived not only in one town but
in a group of towns near each other.

The district groups deal with revision lists, family lists, tax lists and
other types of records which were kept by district. We encourage people to
join together to acquire data so that this extremely valuable genealogical
information can be memoralized via the All Lithuania Database (ALD).

Many family history researchers soon discover that our ancestors did not
come >from just one place. They moved >from shtetl to shtetl for a variety of
reasons. The effects of fires, plagues, famine, and pogroms were all part
of this mobility. There were many positive reasons for the movement as well,
eg. education, business and marriage.

The work of these District Groups does not just happen. Today I would
particularly like to mention a team of dedicated workers. They are the
District Research Group Coordinators (DC for short). LitvakSIG relies
heavily on this team of volunteers who over many years have given their
time to this organization. Over the past eight months, I have come to
know them and the tasks they carry out.

They raise the funds so that the tax and voters lists and revision lists
can be translated. They proofread those lists after they have been
translated and they circulate them to the qualified donors in their
groups. A year after circulation to qualified donors, those records are
added to
the All Lithuania Database (ALD), where they are searchable at no charge
by a large audience of interested family historians. DCs also give their
time to help others locate information about their families, answering many
of your questions. Some of them have been doing this job for many years and
at the moment we have quite a few new ones. They and their email addresses
are listed on the LitvakSIG home page at www.LitvakSIG.org . I hope many
more of you will join the District Research Groups and help us continue
the work.

All of this takes commitment to the memory of our families and the
communities they once lived in. I would personally like to thank them
all, past and present.

Dorothy Leivers
Coordinator of the District Research Groups


JGSLA - Bad Arolsen-ITS Program - Monday, Nov. 10th #galicia

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

Join us at the next meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society of
Los Angeles:

Date: Monday, November 10th at 7:30PM
Program: The Bad Arolsen - ITS Archives Research Experience:

Film and Panel Discussion with three participants in the May 2008
research trip to the most important repository in the world
containing information on victims of World War II. There will also
be a special focus on the non-personal and community documents,
records and testimonies held by the ITS, which cover the former
Polish/Galician towns of Zbaraz, Jezierzany, Drohobycz and Boryslaw.

Speakers: Lori Miller, Judi Gyori Missel, and Pamela Weisberger
Place:
Skirball Cultural Center, 2701 North Sepulveda Blvd., Los Angeles, CA
More details at: http://www.jgsla.org

Pamela Weisberger
Program Chair, JGSLA
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia JGSLA - Bad Arolsen-ITS Program - Monday, Nov. 10th #galicia

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

Join us at the next meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society of
Los Angeles:

Date: Monday, November 10th at 7:30PM
Program: The Bad Arolsen - ITS Archives Research Experience:

Film and Panel Discussion with three participants in the May 2008
research trip to the most important repository in the world
containing information on victims of World War II. There will also
be a special focus on the non-personal and community documents,
records and testimonies held by the ITS, which cover the former
Polish/Galician towns of Zbaraz, Jezierzany, Drohobycz and Boryslaw.

Speakers: Lori Miller, Judi Gyori Missel, and Pamela Weisberger
Place:
Skirball Cultural Center, 2701 North Sepulveda Blvd., Los Angeles, CA
More details at: http://www.jgsla.org

Pamela Weisberger
Program Chair, JGSLA
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


JGSLA - Bad Arolsen-ITS Program - Monday, Nov. 10th #poland

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

Join us at the next meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Los
Angeles:

Date: Monday November 10th at 7:30PM

Program: The Bad Arolsen - ITS Archives Research Experience: Film and
Panel Discussion with three participants in the May 2008 research trip to
the most important repository in the world containing information on
victims of World War II.

There will also be a special focus on the non-personal and community
documents records and testimonies held by the ITS, which cover the former
Polish/Galician towns of Zbaraz, Jezierzany, Drohobycz and Boryslaw.

Speakers: Lori Miller, Judi Gyori Missels, and Pamela Weisberger

Place: Skirball Cultural Center, 2701 North Sepulveda Blvd. Los Angeles
CA 90049

More details at: http://www.jgsla.org
Pamela Weisberger Program Chair, JGSLA Santa Monica
pweisberger@hotmail.com


JRI Poland #Poland JGSLA - Bad Arolsen-ITS Program - Monday, Nov. 10th #poland

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

Join us at the next meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Los
Angeles:

Date: Monday November 10th at 7:30PM

Program: The Bad Arolsen - ITS Archives Research Experience: Film and
Panel Discussion with three participants in the May 2008 research trip to
the most important repository in the world containing information on
victims of World War II.

There will also be a special focus on the non-personal and community
documents records and testimonies held by the ITS, which cover the former
Polish/Galician towns of Zbaraz, Jezierzany, Drohobycz and Boryslaw.

Speakers: Lori Miller, Judi Gyori Missels, and Pamela Weisberger

Place: Skirball Cultural Center, 2701 North Sepulveda Blvd. Los Angeles
CA 90049

More details at: http://www.jgsla.org
Pamela Weisberger Program Chair, JGSLA Santa Monica
pweisberger@hotmail.com


Need Copies of Records in Pultusk PSA #poland

Howard Orenstein
 

Dear All,

I need copies of 7 records that are located in the Pultusk PSA. If you
are going to be in Pultusk, please consider obtaining these copies
for me. I can provide the exact documentation for the records and I'm
certain that we can agree on the best method for me to pay you for the
copies.

Please contact me privately at the following email address:

horenstein@mcdaniel.edu

Thanks in advance.
Howard Orenstein, Ph.D.
Westminster,MD
horenstein@mcdaniel.edu

Explore Your Jewish Heritage in Wyszkow,Poland:
http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/JHWyszkow3.html
Jewish Heritage in Serock,Poland:
http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/JHSerock3/Welcome.html
Searching for:
ORENSTEIN -- Serock, Wyszkow, Pultusk, Plonsk, Poland
HOLLAND (GOLAND), PIENIEK, OSTROWIAK -- Serock, Wyszkow, Poland
BLUM (BLOOM) -- Wyszkow, Poland; London, England


JRI Poland #Poland Need Copies of Records in Pultusk PSA #poland

Howard Orenstein
 

Dear All,

I need copies of 7 records that are located in the Pultusk PSA. If you
are going to be in Pultusk, please consider obtaining these copies
for me. I can provide the exact documentation for the records and I'm
certain that we can agree on the best method for me to pay you for the
copies.

Please contact me privately at the following email address:

horenstein@mcdaniel.edu

Thanks in advance.
Howard Orenstein, Ph.D.
Westminster,MD
horenstein@mcdaniel.edu

Explore Your Jewish Heritage in Wyszkow,Poland:
http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/JHWyszkow3.html
Jewish Heritage in Serock,Poland:
http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/JHSerock3/Welcome.html
Searching for:
ORENSTEIN -- Serock, Wyszkow, Pultusk, Plonsk, Poland
HOLLAND (GOLAND), PIENIEK, OSTROWIAK -- Serock, Wyszkow, Poland
BLUM (BLOOM) -- Wyszkow, Poland; London, England


Posting problems #austria-czech

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

Dear SIG members,

If you have sent a message to the list at austriaczech@lyris.jewishgen.org
and have not seen it posted, then it is possible that the message has been
lost. For the past several weeks, we have had a problem with lyris, our
mail program, that postings >from certain addresses were not getting through.
If you think this has happened to one of your posts, please contact me
directly at randols@bslaw.net.

Thank you,

Randol Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA
Austria-Czech SIG Coordinator


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Posting problems #austria-czech

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

Dear SIG members,

If you have sent a message to the list at austriaczech@lyris.jewishgen.org
and have not seen it posted, then it is possible that the message has been
lost. For the past several weeks, we have had a problem with lyris, our
mail program, that postings >from certain addresses were not getting through.
If you think this has happened to one of your posts, please contact me
directly at randols@bslaw.net.

Thank you,

Randol Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA
Austria-Czech SIG Coordinator


Re: mother's given name #galicia

Malkie Griffel <barmag@...>
 

Definitely not. There's nothing wrong with a sister sharing the name
of a brother's wife and many, many families have daughters-in-law
with the same name and also with the same name as their own
daughters. And many have sons-in-law who share the same name and
the same name of their sons.

Malkie Griffel
Jerusalem

Catherine Gordon wrote:

I have been curious for some time whether any such tradition applied
in the case of sisters....


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia RE: mother's given name #galicia

Malkie Griffel <barmag@...>
 

Definitely not. There's nothing wrong with a sister sharing the name
of a brother's wife and many, many families have daughters-in-law
with the same name and also with the same name as their own
daughters. And many have sons-in-law who share the same name and
the same name of their sons.

Malkie Griffel
Jerusalem

Catherine Gordon wrote:

I have been curious for some time whether any such tradition applied
in the case of sisters....