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LANDSMAN, CHORNY (from Paberze, Vilna) #general

MandJMeyers <mandjmeyers@...>
 

I'm slowly homing in on my LANDSMAN family >from Vilna. Earlier this
year I found my first ever vital record listing my great-grandparents
Abram and Feiga (bat Eliasz FINBERG >from Gelvan) LANDSMAN in Vilna
for a previously unknown sibling of my grandmother (presumably this
child died young). Key information was that the family was said to
have come >from Paberzhe and that Abram's father was named Girsh.

I have just today discovered that Abram died in1915 in Vilna at age 69,
with the record again saying he had come >from Paberzhe. Previously I
had bracketed his death between 1914 (when my grandmother's brother
emigrated) and 1920 (when my father was named for him).

At this point I have not found the birth records of my grandmother or
any of her brothers/sisters in the 1880s and 1890s, so am now assuming
these were most likely in Paberzhe and hopefully reside in the
untranslated BMD records that cover 1881+.

One more clue, once pointed towards Paberzhe, is the 1851 revision list
which shows a Girsh LANTZMAN (son of Morduhk, age not given) living with
a CHORNY family, Iovnash ben Eliasz and his wife Shora bat Girsh. I
assume that Shora is the daughter of Girsh and that Girsh was living
with his son-in-law. Since the CHORNY's were ages 37/36, I assume
Girsh was 55 or older in 1851. Given the age differences, it is not
clear if this Girsh is the father of Abram or not. I have found almost
20 different Girsh LANDSMAN in the Vilna area, so this is a very common
given name in the family.

If any of the sounds familiar, please contact me privately at
<MandJMeyers@gmail.com>

Marty Meyers
Montclair, NJ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LANDSMAN, CHORNY (from Paberze, Vilna) #general

MandJMeyers <mandjmeyers@...>
 

I'm slowly homing in on my LANDSMAN family >from Vilna. Earlier this
year I found my first ever vital record listing my great-grandparents
Abram and Feiga (bat Eliasz FINBERG >from Gelvan) LANDSMAN in Vilna
for a previously unknown sibling of my grandmother (presumably this
child died young). Key information was that the family was said to
have come >from Paberzhe and that Abram's father was named Girsh.

I have just today discovered that Abram died in1915 in Vilna at age 69,
with the record again saying he had come >from Paberzhe. Previously I
had bracketed his death between 1914 (when my grandmother's brother
emigrated) and 1920 (when my father was named for him).

At this point I have not found the birth records of my grandmother or
any of her brothers/sisters in the 1880s and 1890s, so am now assuming
these were most likely in Paberzhe and hopefully reside in the
untranslated BMD records that cover 1881+.

One more clue, once pointed towards Paberzhe, is the 1851 revision list
which shows a Girsh LANTZMAN (son of Morduhk, age not given) living with
a CHORNY family, Iovnash ben Eliasz and his wife Shora bat Girsh. I
assume that Shora is the daughter of Girsh and that Girsh was living
with his son-in-law. Since the CHORNY's were ages 37/36, I assume
Girsh was 55 or older in 1851. Given the age differences, it is not
clear if this Girsh is the father of Abram or not. I have found almost
20 different Girsh LANDSMAN in the Vilna area, so this is a very common
given name in the family.

If any of the sounds familiar, please contact me privately at
<MandJMeyers@gmail.com>

Marty Meyers
Montclair, NJ


Re: Boer War keepsake #southafrica

Ken <ken@...>
 

I don't speak with any authority, but looking at the four little
rings it would seem unlikely that it was a medal. A medal would
normally have only one ring, by which it is attached to the ribbon.

What is the diameter of the coin? Could it have been used as
jewelry (a bracelet), with chains attached to the rings?

Just a few humble thoughts,
Ken

*** Please include surname and location in your postings -- Moderator

On 22/07/2009, at 7:34 AM, N C wrote:

Hi all,

My great-grandfather Benzion FAERBER came to South Africa >from Tukums,
Latvia in 1896. I found the following record in the 'SA Jews in the
Boer
War' database:

'Arrived S.A. 1896 In Service of N.Z.A.S.M. Commandeered on
outbreak of war.
On Bridge duty at Vereeniging and later at P.O.Ws of Waterval
Bovin. Later sent to
Lourenco Marques on Commissariat duty. On commissariat duty British
POW camp,
Watervalbowen, captured'

After his son died recently, we found a medal in an old box which
appears to
be a gold-plated 2-shilling piece >from 1897. I've taken some
pictures which
can be viewed here:

http://www.thenoodlebowl.com/genealogy/crest-side.jpg
http://www.thenoodlebowl.com/genealogy/kruger-side.jpg

Can anyone shed any light on what this is? Was it an official medal
or is it
some kind of unofficial keepsake? Any help would be much appreciated.

Many thanks,

Natasha Condon
London, UK


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: Boer War keepsake #southafrica

Ken <ken@...>
 

I don't speak with any authority, but looking at the four little
rings it would seem unlikely that it was a medal. A medal would
normally have only one ring, by which it is attached to the ribbon.

What is the diameter of the coin? Could it have been used as
jewelry (a bracelet), with chains attached to the rings?

Just a few humble thoughts,
Ken

*** Please include surname and location in your postings -- Moderator

On 22/07/2009, at 7:34 AM, N C wrote:

Hi all,

My great-grandfather Benzion FAERBER came to South Africa >from Tukums,
Latvia in 1896. I found the following record in the 'SA Jews in the
Boer
War' database:

'Arrived S.A. 1896 In Service of N.Z.A.S.M. Commandeered on
outbreak of war.
On Bridge duty at Vereeniging and later at P.O.Ws of Waterval
Bovin. Later sent to
Lourenco Marques on Commissariat duty. On commissariat duty British
POW camp,
Watervalbowen, captured'

After his son died recently, we found a medal in an old box which
appears to
be a gold-plated 2-shilling piece >from 1897. I've taken some
pictures which
can be viewed here:

http://www.thenoodlebowl.com/genealogy/crest-side.jpg
http://www.thenoodlebowl.com/genealogy/kruger-side.jpg

Can anyone shed any light on what this is? Was it an official medal
or is it
some kind of unofficial keepsake? Any help would be much appreciated.

Many thanks,

Natasha Condon
London, UK


Seeking relationship between FINEs, PODNOS, RUBINs #general

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Louis Fine,

Have you tried searching the Canadian Jewish Review, an
archived newspaper out of Montreal, which usually had a Toronto
column? The archive spans 1921-1966. The URL is
http://multiculturalcanada.ca/mcc_cjr
I find it very valuable when looking for births, marriages & death of
my many MELNICK, LIBERMAN, AMSEL, et cetera, families.

Best, Steve Orlen Tucson Arizona


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking relationship between FINEs, PODNOS, RUBINs #general

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Louis Fine,

Have you tried searching the Canadian Jewish Review, an
archived newspaper out of Montreal, which usually had a Toronto
column? The archive spans 1921-1966. The URL is
http://multiculturalcanada.ca/mcc_cjr
I find it very valuable when looking for births, marriages & death of
my many MELNICK, LIBERMAN, AMSEL, et cetera, families.

Best, Steve Orlen Tucson Arizona


Re: Question about NYC obituaries in the 1980s #general

Sarah L Meyer
 

Hi Cousins,
For those of us who do not live in NYC and therefore can not go to
NYPL at 42nd St., the website Obituary help
http://www.obituarieshelp.org/
has a listing of all newspapers by state, with links, for all states.
The webmaster contacted me and I have a link on my site.

Sarah L. M. Christiansen
Georgetown Texas
http://genealogy.smcactuary.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Question about NYC obituaries in the 1980s #general

Sarah L Meyer
 

Hi Cousins,
For those of us who do not live in NYC and therefore can not go to
NYPL at 42nd St., the website Obituary help
http://www.obituarieshelp.org/
has a listing of all newspapers by state, with links, for all states.
The webmaster contacted me and I have a link on my site.

Sarah L. M. Christiansen
Georgetown Texas
http://genealogy.smcactuary.net


Surname WEIDEN #general

Wegner, Peter
 

Dear jewishgenners:

This message is addressed to anyone with family members surnamed
WEIDEN (but only if this was the original surname and is not simply
an abbreviation of Weidenbaum, Weidenfeld, etc.) I have a very
specific question. Do you know whether your WEIDEN ancestor or
relative was a Kohen, a Levi, or a Yisra'el?

My husband's father, Leo WEIDEN born in Tarnow, Poland, died when
my husband was only 4 years old; his mother died suddenly when he
was 16; and as they were very secular Jews, the question never arose
until it was too late to ask them. So now we want to find out, for
the benefit of of our sons and grandchildren, which of the three
"castes" they belong to.

If anyone can help us on this point, we'd be very much obliged.

Sincerely,

Judith Romney Wegner (jrw@brown.edu)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Surname WEIDEN #general

Wegner, Peter
 

Dear jewishgenners:

This message is addressed to anyone with family members surnamed
WEIDEN (but only if this was the original surname and is not simply
an abbreviation of Weidenbaum, Weidenfeld, etc.) I have a very
specific question. Do you know whether your WEIDEN ancestor or
relative was a Kohen, a Levi, or a Yisra'el?

My husband's father, Leo WEIDEN born in Tarnow, Poland, died when
my husband was only 4 years old; his mother died suddenly when he
was 16; and as they were very secular Jews, the question never arose
until it was too late to ask them. So now we want to find out, for
the benefit of of our sons and grandchildren, which of the three
"castes" they belong to.

If anyone can help us on this point, we'd be very much obliged.

Sincerely,

Judith Romney Wegner (jrw@brown.edu)


Holocaust Era Assets Conference, June 2009 #general

Dana Dimitriu
 

Hello everybody,

not sure if this is already common knowledge - if it is, please excuse
me for repeating it.

I thought perhaps some of you would be interested to know that there
was a conference on Holocaust Era Assets in June, which might provide
some useful information or at least contacts regarding various aspects
of claims, especially in Eastern Europe.

http://www.holocausteraassets.eu/

[ I stumbled over it while trying to find information about claims in
the Czech Republic and if there were still active initiatives trying to
obtain re-opening of the deadline for claims for property. I understand
this was requested at least once in Parliament but was rejected at the
time.]

Kind regards,

Dana

--
Dana Dimitriu

RO - Bucuresti // DE - Wiesbaden

Email dana.dimitriu@web.de

Names: BOLCHOVER, HALPERN, MIZRACH, NEUMAN(N), SCHERZ, TAMLER
Places: Ataki, Botosani, Czernowitz, Husiatyn, Kopyczynce, Sereth, (Vienna),
Zastavna


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Holocaust Era Assets Conference, June 2009 #general

Dana Dimitriu
 

Hello everybody,

not sure if this is already common knowledge - if it is, please excuse
me for repeating it.

I thought perhaps some of you would be interested to know that there
was a conference on Holocaust Era Assets in June, which might provide
some useful information or at least contacts regarding various aspects
of claims, especially in Eastern Europe.

http://www.holocausteraassets.eu/

[ I stumbled over it while trying to find information about claims in
the Czech Republic and if there were still active initiatives trying to
obtain re-opening of the deadline for claims for property. I understand
this was requested at least once in Parliament but was rejected at the
time.]

Kind regards,

Dana

--
Dana Dimitriu

RO - Bucuresti // DE - Wiesbaden

Email dana.dimitriu@web.de

Names: BOLCHOVER, HALPERN, MIZRACH, NEUMAN(N), SCHERZ, TAMLER
Places: Ataki, Botosani, Czernowitz, Husiatyn, Kopyczynce, Sereth, (Vienna),
Zastavna


Bronx obituaries 1980s #general

Howard Orenstein
 

First, check out and contact The Bronx Historical Society:

http://www.bronxhistoricalsociety.org/archives.html

The Bronx Home News, which started in 1907, eventually merged
into the New York Post in 1948. It became a special section of the
NY Post, sold only in the Bronx, and eventually disappeared, but
I'm not sure when.

--
Howard Orenstein, Ph.D.
Westminster,MD
horenstein@mcdaniel.edu
Explore Your Jewish Heritage in Wyszkow,Poland:
http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/JHWyszkow3.html
Jewish Heritage in Serock,Poland:
http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/JHSerock3/Welcome.html
Searching for:
ORENSTEIN -- Serock, Wyszkow, Pultusk, Plonsk, Poland
HOLLAND (GOLAND), PIENIEK, OSTROWIAK -- Serock, Wyszkow, Poland
BLUM (BLOOM) -- Wyszkow, Poland; London, England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bronx obituaries 1980s #general

Howard Orenstein
 

First, check out and contact The Bronx Historical Society:

http://www.bronxhistoricalsociety.org/archives.html

The Bronx Home News, which started in 1907, eventually merged
into the New York Post in 1948. It became a special section of the
NY Post, sold only in the Bronx, and eventually disappeared, but
I'm not sure when.

--
Howard Orenstein, Ph.D.
Westminster,MD
horenstein@mcdaniel.edu
Explore Your Jewish Heritage in Wyszkow,Poland:
http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/JHWyszkow3.html
Jewish Heritage in Serock,Poland:
http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/JHSerock3/Welcome.html
Searching for:
ORENSTEIN -- Serock, Wyszkow, Pultusk, Plonsk, Poland
HOLLAND (GOLAND), PIENIEK, OSTROWIAK -- Serock, Wyszkow, Poland
BLUM (BLOOM) -- Wyszkow, Poland; London, England


Hungarian Films at the SFJFF #hungary

viviankahn@...
 

The 29th San Francisco Jewish Film Festival runs >from July 23 to
August 10, which means that I will miss most of the films while I'm at
the IAJGS conference in Philly. Fortunately, the SFJFF is showcasing
some of its finds on-line, including a 14-minute film by Hungarian
director Laszlo Nemes. You can watch his film With a Little Patience
on-line at http://fest.sfjff.org/film/detail?id=4788

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
vkahn@kmort.com
http://web.mac.com/lmort/Vivian_Kahn_Family_Website/Home_.html

Researching families including:
BAL/BERKOVICS/BERKOWITZ/ROTH/Orasu Nou,
Seini, Rom., GROSZ/Orasu Nou, Rom., KAHAN/Sighet, Rom.; KOHN/
Zbehnov, Slov.;
MOSKOVITS/Sobrance, Michalovce, Slov.; NEUMANN/Sobrance, Michalovce,
Kristy, Slov.; POLACSEK/Sobrance, Slov.; ROSENBERG/Ungvar; VERO/
SEGAL/ZEGAL/Sighet, Rom


Hungary SIG #Hungary Hungarian Films at the SFJFF #hungary

viviankahn@...
 

The 29th San Francisco Jewish Film Festival runs >from July 23 to
August 10, which means that I will miss most of the films while I'm at
the IAJGS conference in Philly. Fortunately, the SFJFF is showcasing
some of its finds on-line, including a 14-minute film by Hungarian
director Laszlo Nemes. You can watch his film With a Little Patience
on-line at http://fest.sfjff.org/film/detail?id=4788

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
vkahn@kmort.com
http://web.mac.com/lmort/Vivian_Kahn_Family_Website/Home_.html

Researching families including:
BAL/BERKOVICS/BERKOWITZ/ROTH/Orasu Nou,
Seini, Rom., GROSZ/Orasu Nou, Rom., KAHAN/Sighet, Rom.; KOHN/
Zbehnov, Slov.;
MOSKOVITS/Sobrance, Michalovce, Slov.; NEUMANN/Sobrance, Michalovce,
Kristy, Slov.; POLACSEK/Sobrance, Slov.; ROSENBERG/Ungvar; VERO/
SEGAL/ZEGAL/Sighet, Rom


INTRO - researching HELLER, MANDELBAUM family from Dennenlohe, Bavaria #germany

Chuck Koplik
 

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for two years.
I consider myself to be a novice in doing German Jewish Genealogy research.
I live in suburban Lexington, Massachusetts, USA. My native language is English.
I consider myself expert in using a computer. My experience in using the Internet
is extensive.

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of 4 of my
grandparents, 8 of my great grandparents and 16 of my great great grandparents.
My primary research goals now are to find out my familiy history on
my father's mother's side in Germany.

The family names and towns that I am researching are:
HELLER, MANDELBAUM, SILBERLOSS, LEHMAN - Dennenlohe, Bavaria (near
Wassertrudingen).

My ggg grandfather and grandmother were Isaac Kallman HELLER
(b. Jan 7, 1780, d. 29 Dec 1857 in New Haven, Connecticut) and

Leah MANDELBAUM (b. 1791, d. ??) both of Dennenlohe;
and my ggg grandfather and grandmother Hirsch SILBERLOSS/LEHMAN and
Sarah also of Dennenlohe.

I am seeking birth, marriage, death records for Jewish residents at that
time in Dennenlohe. I do have the Jewish Registers for 1813-1861 for Middle
Franconia.

STERN - Nackenheim (or Nachenheim), Hesse-Darmstadt. My gg
grandfather Nathan STERN was born in Nackenheim in 1801 (died
1846). Nathan was married to Magdeline Falker (b. 1809 in Mussbach,
d. 25 May 1859 in NYC). Nathan's father Samuel STERN was born in
Holland July 3, 1760 (died in Darmstadt, 25 May 1859, remains at
Dalsheim). I am looking for any information on the Stern family in Nackenheim.

Charles M. Koplik cmkoplik@alum.mit.edu Lexington, Massachusetts, USA


German SIG #Germany INTRO - researching HELLER, MANDELBAUM family from Dennenlohe, Bavaria #germany

Chuck Koplik
 

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for two years.
I consider myself to be a novice in doing German Jewish Genealogy research.
I live in suburban Lexington, Massachusetts, USA. My native language is English.
I consider myself expert in using a computer. My experience in using the Internet
is extensive.

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of 4 of my
grandparents, 8 of my great grandparents and 16 of my great great grandparents.
My primary research goals now are to find out my familiy history on
my father's mother's side in Germany.

The family names and towns that I am researching are:
HELLER, MANDELBAUM, SILBERLOSS, LEHMAN - Dennenlohe, Bavaria (near
Wassertrudingen).

My ggg grandfather and grandmother were Isaac Kallman HELLER
(b. Jan 7, 1780, d. 29 Dec 1857 in New Haven, Connecticut) and

Leah MANDELBAUM (b. 1791, d. ??) both of Dennenlohe;
and my ggg grandfather and grandmother Hirsch SILBERLOSS/LEHMAN and
Sarah also of Dennenlohe.

I am seeking birth, marriage, death records for Jewish residents at that
time in Dennenlohe. I do have the Jewish Registers for 1813-1861 for Middle
Franconia.

STERN - Nackenheim (or Nachenheim), Hesse-Darmstadt. My gg
grandfather Nathan STERN was born in Nackenheim in 1801 (died
1846). Nathan was married to Magdeline Falker (b. 1809 in Mussbach,
d. 25 May 1859 in NYC). Nathan's father Samuel STERN was born in
Holland July 3, 1760 (died in Darmstadt, 25 May 1859, remains at
Dalsheim). I am looking for any information on the Stern family in Nackenheim.

Charles M. Koplik cmkoplik@alum.mit.edu Lexington, Massachusetts, USA


Seeking long time GerSIG member Ronald Wallace #germany

jplowens@...
 

List mail to Ronald Wallace ronald@thewallaces.net began bouncing
on July 19th.

A private email to that address also bounced.

We appreciate the ongoing participation of our long-term GerSIG members.
If anyone can help us update this email address or let me know why mail
to the address is bouncing please reply privately to:

Gersigmod@gmail.com

GerSIG Moderator and Membership chair JP Lowens


German SIG #Germany Seeking long time GerSIG member Ronald Wallace #germany

jplowens@...
 

List mail to Ronald Wallace ronald@thewallaces.net began bouncing
on July 19th.

A private email to that address also bounced.

We appreciate the ongoing participation of our long-term GerSIG members.
If anyone can help us update this email address or let me know why mail
to the address is bouncing please reply privately to:

Gersigmod@gmail.com

GerSIG Moderator and Membership chair JP Lowens