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KINSLER/KAMIENIARZ/KAMINASH/WENGER #general

Ann Linder
 

I'm researching on jewgen.org, ancestry.com & findmypast.com & archival british
telephone directories for: Looking for Mrs. KINSLER. In aprox. 1945 or 1946 she
lived at **Alkham Road Stamford Hill N14 London. My grandmother's maiden name was
Brucha KAMIENIARZ (DOB 1899 aprox. married name WENGER). Mrs. KINSLER was my
grandmother's aunt, ergo is related to the KAMIENIARZ family of Stopnica Poland and
likely the KAMINASH family of England. She had a picture of my grandmother's
family! &she sent the photo-the only photo we have today- to my uncle who was in
Germany after WWII. I've located a Kaminash family in Engand and have spoken at
length with a senior Kaminash family member; she has no recollection of a family
member called Mrs. Kinsler. I know there is a link to that family,and therefore to
Mrs. KINSLER, but I'm unable to find it.

Ann
Florida USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KINSLER/KAMIENIARZ/KAMINASH/WENGER #general

Ann Linder
 

I'm researching on jewgen.org, ancestry.com & findmypast.com & archival british
telephone directories for: Looking for Mrs. KINSLER. In aprox. 1945 or 1946 she
lived at **Alkham Road Stamford Hill N14 London. My grandmother's maiden name was
Brucha KAMIENIARZ (DOB 1899 aprox. married name WENGER). Mrs. KINSLER was my
grandmother's aunt, ergo is related to the KAMIENIARZ family of Stopnica Poland and
likely the KAMINASH family of England. She had a picture of my grandmother's
family! &she sent the photo-the only photo we have today- to my uncle who was in
Germany after WWII. I've located a Kaminash family in Engand and have spoken at
length with a senior Kaminash family member; she has no recollection of a family
member called Mrs. Kinsler. I know there is a link to that family,and therefore to
Mrs. KINSLER, but I'm unable to find it.

Ann
Florida USA


Re: NYC birth Certificate #general

Marc DVer <mdver@...>
 

You can order it online, especially if you have the certificate number. Go to
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vitalrecords/birth.shtml for details.

If there is a specific reason why in your case it cannot be done online (and if the
reason isn't too private) would you mind letting us know for future reference?

Marc DVer

Bubylu@aol.com wrote:

Hello, My Mom was Gussie Graff, born on 1/28/1906. I have the certificate # on
the birth certificate and was wondering what the best, quickest and easiest way
to order a copy of her birth certificate? It can't be done on line...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NYC birth Certificate #general

Marc DVer <mdver@...>
 

You can order it online, especially if you have the certificate number. Go to
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vitalrecords/birth.shtml for details.

If there is a specific reason why in your case it cannot be done online (and if the
reason isn't too private) would you mind letting us know for future reference?

Marc DVer

Bubylu@aol.com wrote:

Hello, My Mom was Gussie Graff, born on 1/28/1906. I have the certificate # on
the birth certificate and was wondering what the best, quickest and easiest way
to order a copy of her birth certificate? It can't be done on line...


Goldstein - Rio de Janeiro #hungary

stephen@...
 

I just received documents >from the ITS in Germany referring to my cousin
Gyorgy BRAUNSTEIN >from Gyor/Papa and his wife Rozsa LUKACS-BRUST >from
Szekesfehervar.

The documents were completed in 1948 and they mention that they would
like to join a relative Marton GOLDSTEIN in Rio de Janeiro. Can anyone
advise me on how best to trace this name in Rio without going there,
although on a cold Melbourne morning Rio sounds enticing.

Stephen Schmideg
Melbourne, Australia


Re: Meaning of word #hungary

tom
 

"kocsma" means tavern. i don't know any other hungarian word that might apply in
this context.


....... tom klein, toronto

mbw.art@gmail.com wrote:

I recently heard a taped conversation of a relative being interviewed
about writing frequently >from the US to my great-grandfather's sisters
before the latter came to the US in the 1890's. The interviewee said
that she addressed the correspondence to an address in "Ungvar,
Komidat" The tape, made decades ago, was in bad shape, and
"Komidat/Komitat" are my best guesses as to the spelling I heard on
the tape. It's the proper spelling and meaning of the word that I'd
like to know. I do know that my great-grandfather ran an inn in
Ungvar.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Goldstein - Rio de Janeiro #hungary

stephen@...
 

I just received documents >from the ITS in Germany referring to my cousin
Gyorgy BRAUNSTEIN >from Gyor/Papa and his wife Rozsa LUKACS-BRUST >from
Szekesfehervar.

The documents were completed in 1948 and they mention that they would
like to join a relative Marton GOLDSTEIN in Rio de Janeiro. Can anyone
advise me on how best to trace this name in Rio without going there,
although on a cold Melbourne morning Rio sounds enticing.

Stephen Schmideg
Melbourne, Australia


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Meaning of word #hungary

tom
 

"kocsma" means tavern. i don't know any other hungarian word that might apply in
this context.


....... tom klein, toronto

mbw.art@gmail.com wrote:

I recently heard a taped conversation of a relative being interviewed
about writing frequently >from the US to my great-grandfather's sisters
before the latter came to the US in the 1890's. The interviewee said
that she addressed the correspondence to an address in "Ungvar,
Komidat" The tape, made decades ago, was in bad shape, and
"Komidat/Komitat" are my best guesses as to the spelling I heard on
the tape. It's the proper spelling and meaning of the word that I'd
like to know. I do know that my great-grandfather ran an inn in
Ungvar.


Need Help with Photo Identification #romania

sabreena20@...
 

My sister found this photo which is lacking a name and date. I do not expect
anyone can identify the people but it would be helpful if we could figure
out where the photo is >from >from the photographer's signature, R. Chanzis.
I've uploaded it to viewmate.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=13338

Has anyone come across this photographer? They would be >from one of four
places: Briceni or Kishinev, Moldova , Galicia, Poland or (doubtful) New
York or Pittsburgh. If anyone can date the photo >from clothing, that would
also be helpful. Please respond privately to: sabreena20@cox.net. Thanks in
advance,
Debby Storch


Romania SIG #Romania Need Help with Photo Identification #romania

sabreena20@...
 

My sister found this photo which is lacking a name and date. I do not expect
anyone can identify the people but it would be helpful if we could figure
out where the photo is >from >from the photographer's signature, R. Chanzis.
I've uploaded it to viewmate.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=13338

Has anyone come across this photographer? They would be >from one of four
places: Briceni or Kishinev, Moldova , Galicia, Poland or (doubtful) New
York or Pittsburgh. If anyone can date the photo >from clothing, that would
also be helpful. Please respond privately to: sabreena20@cox.net. Thanks in
advance,
Debby Storch


Re: 1905 NYC Polices - Hyman and Pauline PERSKY #general

David Rubin
 

akaran1@hotmail.com >writes:
..they were not listed in the 1905 NYC Polices census...I did notice a Sam
and Ettei EPSTEIN, husband and wife in their 60's, living there.
Hello,

In the 1900 Manhattan Census there is a Samuel and Etta EPSTEIN with daughter
Pauline indexed in Ancestry.com as age 7, however she was actually 17 in 1900 which
matches your information for Pauline in 1910. And Samuel was 55 in 1900, so he
would be 60 in 1905 Police Census. Pauline was the youngest of all the children.

Sincerely,
David Rubin and Mrs. Rubin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1905 NYC Polices - Hyman and Pauline PERSKY #general

David Rubin
 

akaran1@hotmail.com >writes:
..they were not listed in the 1905 NYC Polices census...I did notice a Sam
and Ettei EPSTEIN, husband and wife in their 60's, living there.
Hello,

In the 1900 Manhattan Census there is a Samuel and Etta EPSTEIN with daughter
Pauline indexed in Ancestry.com as age 7, however she was actually 17 in 1900 which
matches your information for Pauline in 1910. And Samuel was 55 in 1900, so he
would be 60 in 1905 Police Census. Pauline was the youngest of all the children.

Sincerely,
David Rubin and Mrs. Rubin


Re: Using Latvia State Archives Search service #latvia

A. E. Jordan
 

In a message dated 8/27/2009 10:50:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rumpole6@yahoo.com writes:
Does anyone have any experiences the could share using this service? Do
you know if you ask for a specific document or do the give you everything
they can find for a specific person, ie birth, death, marriage, children?
Also, i am interested to know how long a search takes and how international
mail is? I think online would be better.


I am not sure if this service is what I used, but I did work with the
Archives on two requests for my family and looking for records pre-1892.

What I originally did was write them a letter detailing what I knew and
specific questions that I wanted researched about the family. What I sent
was vague names and dates on the family and some questionable locals.
(Remember do not send them the Americanized versions of names because the records
are not that way in the old country.) They took >from what I told them and
found the families in the records and far expanded on what I had telling
me about children, etc that I never knew about.

Only caution which is what they told me: the records for women are not as
good as men. In many cases the information they sent was missing or
incomplete on women. Also they cautioned that the Jewish records were not as
complete going back into the 1800s and before. It was true because they could
not find some of my great aunts but found my great uncles -- all born in
the 1870s.

I made an initial deposit of about $50 and it took them over a year to get
back to me. I got a letter saying they had found information, not clear
what they had, and a bill. I do not remember the dollar amounts any more
but it was under $200 total.

What I got was a four page letter spelling out what they could find on the
family. They gave names, dates and locals where possible. It filled in a
large portion of the tree for me and continues year's later to still yield
results.

Less than a year after I did the first request I sent them additional
questions and details asking them if they could fill in things for me. I sent
them back a copy of their letter to me along with some information I was
able to extract of the JewishGen Latvia SIG web site databases. I did not
have to make a deposit the second time and the response took less than a year
and around another $100.

Overall I was very satisfied. I did not get any original documents
because my understanding is not everything is in ledger books not individual
documents. Also they translated everything into English for me. I had no
problems mailing them information and as I remember I used postal money orders
for the payments. The second time I did use the email to inquire on the
status and I got "We work on it" response as I recall.

Overall my experiences were positive and very helpful. Hope that helps.

Allan Jordan


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Using Latvia State Archives Search service #latvia

A. E. Jordan
 

In a message dated 8/27/2009 10:50:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rumpole6@yahoo.com writes:
Does anyone have any experiences the could share using this service? Do
you know if you ask for a specific document or do the give you everything
they can find for a specific person, ie birth, death, marriage, children?
Also, i am interested to know how long a search takes and how international
mail is? I think online would be better.


I am not sure if this service is what I used, but I did work with the
Archives on two requests for my family and looking for records pre-1892.

What I originally did was write them a letter detailing what I knew and
specific questions that I wanted researched about the family. What I sent
was vague names and dates on the family and some questionable locals.
(Remember do not send them the Americanized versions of names because the records
are not that way in the old country.) They took >from what I told them and
found the families in the records and far expanded on what I had telling
me about children, etc that I never knew about.

Only caution which is what they told me: the records for women are not as
good as men. In many cases the information they sent was missing or
incomplete on women. Also they cautioned that the Jewish records were not as
complete going back into the 1800s and before. It was true because they could
not find some of my great aunts but found my great uncles -- all born in
the 1870s.

I made an initial deposit of about $50 and it took them over a year to get
back to me. I got a letter saying they had found information, not clear
what they had, and a bill. I do not remember the dollar amounts any more
but it was under $200 total.

What I got was a four page letter spelling out what they could find on the
family. They gave names, dates and locals where possible. It filled in a
large portion of the tree for me and continues year's later to still yield
results.

Less than a year after I did the first request I sent them additional
questions and details asking them if they could fill in things for me. I sent
them back a copy of their letter to me along with some information I was
able to extract of the JewishGen Latvia SIG web site databases. I did not
have to make a deposit the second time and the response took less than a year
and around another $100.

Overall I was very satisfied. I did not get any original documents
because my understanding is not everything is in ledger books not individual
documents. Also they translated everything into English for me. I had no
problems mailing them information and as I remember I used postal money orders
for the payments. The second time I did use the email to inquire on the
status and I got "We work on it" response as I recall.

Overall my experiences were positive and very helpful. Hope that helps.

Allan Jordan


Re: Linking Trees & Databases ... #general

Ron Kaminker <Ron@...>
 

Hi

I am glad that my initial posting stimulated a lot of discussion. I would however
like to clarify a few potential misconceptions

1. The idea had nothing to do with any commercial/web based sites or Geni - in
fact, I personally am totally opposed to Geni because of my perceived lack of
safeguards in what is shown and who can get access to the information.

2. I am aware that there can be many people with the same name (I have 10 different
Meilech NARZISENFELD' and 12 Hersch KAMINKER's on my tree). The goal was to put in
obvious linkages about which there could be no confusion. (e.g. connecting
different children >from the exact same father and mother's names., then linking in
the grandparents if you have the marriage records, etc...) This is no different
than what any of us do when building our trees.

My initial proposal (again not sure if technologically or economically feasible)
would be that as people look at records they make the linkages themselves. Maybe
there is an SIG (as someone suggested) that reviews the work to make sure it is
accurate. Additionally, when making the links it can be coded as to whether it is
"definitive" or "conjecture".

Lastly, someone had also suggested that there should be a system where if someone
had ordered a record that it could be coded so that others would be able to get
access to it. I think that is a fantastic idea as well.

Shana Tova - Ktiva VaChatima Tova

Ron Kaminker
LA, CA nee Buffalo, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Linking Trees & Databases ... #general

Ron Kaminker <Ron@...>
 

Hi

I am glad that my initial posting stimulated a lot of discussion. I would however
like to clarify a few potential misconceptions

1. The idea had nothing to do with any commercial/web based sites or Geni - in
fact, I personally am totally opposed to Geni because of my perceived lack of
safeguards in what is shown and who can get access to the information.

2. I am aware that there can be many people with the same name (I have 10 different
Meilech NARZISENFELD' and 12 Hersch KAMINKER's on my tree). The goal was to put in
obvious linkages about which there could be no confusion. (e.g. connecting
different children >from the exact same father and mother's names., then linking in
the grandparents if you have the marriage records, etc...) This is no different
than what any of us do when building our trees.

My initial proposal (again not sure if technologically or economically feasible)
would be that as people look at records they make the linkages themselves. Maybe
there is an SIG (as someone suggested) that reviews the work to make sure it is
accurate. Additionally, when making the links it can be coded as to whether it is
"definitive" or "conjecture".

Lastly, someone had also suggested that there should be a system where if someone
had ordered a record that it could be coded so that others would be able to get
access to it. I think that is a fantastic idea as well.

Shana Tova - Ktiva VaChatima Tova

Ron Kaminker
LA, CA nee Buffalo, NY


Mormon Microfilms for Plock, Poland #general

Michael Tobias <michael@...>
 

Does anyone have the microfilms for Plock, Poland, especially film 730202, on loan
at their local Family History Centre?

There are a few records I would like copies of and rather than order them into the
FHC here in Glasgow and wait a few months for them to arrive I thought I would ask
first!

Thanks for any help you can give.

Regards

Michael Tobias
Glasgow, Scotland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mormon Microfilms for Plock, Poland #general

Michael Tobias <michael@...>
 

Does anyone have the microfilms for Plock, Poland, especially film 730202, on loan
at their local Family History Centre?

There are a few records I would like copies of and rather than order them into the
FHC here in Glasgow and wait a few months for them to arrive I thought I would ask
first!

Thanks for any help you can give.

Regards

Michael Tobias
Glasgow, Scotland


Looking for descendants of August and Rosa HEIM #germany

Oliver Bryk <oliverbryk@...>
 

August HEIM married Rosa SCHWARZ in Ulm. According to Yad Vashem, Rosa was
born in Muenchen on 19 July 1855 and died in Theresienstadt on 20 October
1942. I will be grateful for any information about their descendants.

Oliver Bryk, San Francisco oliverbryk@comcast.net


German SIG #Germany Looking for descendants of August and Rosa HEIM #germany

Oliver Bryk <oliverbryk@...>
 

August HEIM married Rosa SCHWARZ in Ulm. According to Yad Vashem, Rosa was
born in Muenchen on 19 July 1855 and died in Theresienstadt on 20 October
1942. I will be grateful for any information about their descendants.

Oliver Bryk, San Francisco oliverbryk@comcast.net