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Ramati Family #general

seham lewis <sehamlewis@...>
 

Hello, I am trying to contact any one of the following people
below or their relatives to see if we are related. My name was
Ramadan and is now Lewis. I live in the U.S. I'm trying to use as
much discretion as possible and be respectful to the privacy of any Ramati.

The following 4 resided in Jerusalem. The date was July 13, 1944.
It could be found on Palestinian Gazette pg. 634.
1. Yehuda Alexander Ramadan - now Yehuda Alexander RAMATI
2. Yusef Haim Ramadan - now YOSEF HAYIM RAMATI
3. Elhanan Zvi Ramadan - now Elhanan TSEVI RAMATI
4. Toorkia Ramadan - now RIVQA RAMATI

The last 3 resided in Tel Aviv. The date was Jun 8, 1944. Pg. 533 of
Palestine Gazette
5. Ilana Ramadan - now Ilana RAMATI
6. Tamar Ramadan - now Tamar RAMATI
7. Zion Shlomo Ramadan - now - Zion SHELOMO RAMATI

Best Regards,
Seham Lewis


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ramati Family #general

seham lewis <sehamlewis@...>
 

Hello, I am trying to contact any one of the following people
below or their relatives to see if we are related. My name was
Ramadan and is now Lewis. I live in the U.S. I'm trying to use as
much discretion as possible and be respectful to the privacy of any Ramati.

The following 4 resided in Jerusalem. The date was July 13, 1944.
It could be found on Palestinian Gazette pg. 634.
1. Yehuda Alexander Ramadan - now Yehuda Alexander RAMATI
2. Yusef Haim Ramadan - now YOSEF HAYIM RAMATI
3. Elhanan Zvi Ramadan - now Elhanan TSEVI RAMATI
4. Toorkia Ramadan - now RIVQA RAMATI

The last 3 resided in Tel Aviv. The date was Jun 8, 1944. Pg. 533 of
Palestine Gazette
5. Ilana Ramadan - now Ilana RAMATI
6. Tamar Ramadan - now Tamar RAMATI
7. Zion Shlomo Ramadan - now - Zion SHELOMO RAMATI

Best Regards,
Seham Lewis


Town of Schmiglitz, Poland #general

Sandy Berger
 

I was told that my great-grandparents were >from the town of Schmiglitz in
Galicia. During or after WWI, they took refuge in Munich, Germany where my
grandfather was born. I "googled" the name and did a search by town in
Jewishgen.org and can't seem to find it. Has anyone ever heard of this
place?

Thank you,
Sandy Schechter
Brooklyn, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Town of Schmiglitz, Poland #general

Sandy Berger
 

I was told that my great-grandparents were >from the town of Schmiglitz in
Galicia. During or after WWI, they took refuge in Munich, Germany where my
grandfather was born. I "googled" the name and did a search by town in
Jewishgen.org and can't seem to find it. Has anyone ever heard of this
place?

Thank you,
Sandy Schechter
Brooklyn, NY


Re: Five Maramures county towns that need identification #hungary

Asparagirl
 

Thank you very much to everybody who contributed suggestions and
helped me track down to the locations of those five towns from
Maramures county! They were...

- "Benecso" -- according to somebody who has a copy of Jordan
Auslander's gazeteer, this tiny town was absorbed by the nearby town
of Rus'ke Pole, Ukraine (near Bushtyno).
- "Bensztura" -- we think this one is a misspelling of "Brusztura",
now called Lopuhiv, Ukraine.
- "Dragos Voda" -- this one seems to have been a very very tiny town
between Bogdan Voda and Dragomiresti, and was probably absorbed into
Dragomiresti, Romania. There still exists a geological fault named
after it.
- "Kabalacsarda" -- this turned out to be "Kabala Csarda", a very
small town northeast of Kabola Patak (Iapa, Romania), presumably on
the USSR (now Ukrainain) side of the border, and now believed to have
been absorbed by Szighet, Romania.
- "Korosapsa" -- believed to be a misspelling of Kozep-Apsa (now
Szerednye Vogyane, Ukraine).

Thank you again to everyone who contributed suggestions!


Brooke Schreier Ganz
Los Angeles, California


KUBEL fm Budapest #hungary

judy.spielman@...
 

I was born in Budapest in 1941 and migrated to Sydney Australia in 1949. I
am trying to research my father's family. My father was Istvan Kubel he was
born in Budapest on 6th March 1911. He was a Forced Labourer in the
Hungarian Army and the Army gave me a presumed date of death of 15th January
1943 at Voronezh, Russia. His parents, my grandparents both died in the
Budapest Ghetto at 34 Klauzal utca. I have death certificates for both with
dates of death. Mor Kubel died on 10th February 1945, aged 71 years.
Kornelia ( Nelly ) Kubel died on 19th October,1945 aged 56 years.
I would like help with finding their dates of birth and anything else
possible

Judy Spielman.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Five Maramures county towns that need identification #hungary

Asparagirl
 

Thank you very much to everybody who contributed suggestions and
helped me track down to the locations of those five towns from
Maramures county! They were...

- "Benecso" -- according to somebody who has a copy of Jordan
Auslander's gazeteer, this tiny town was absorbed by the nearby town
of Rus'ke Pole, Ukraine (near Bushtyno).
- "Bensztura" -- we think this one is a misspelling of "Brusztura",
now called Lopuhiv, Ukraine.
- "Dragos Voda" -- this one seems to have been a very very tiny town
between Bogdan Voda and Dragomiresti, and was probably absorbed into
Dragomiresti, Romania. There still exists a geological fault named
after it.
- "Kabalacsarda" -- this turned out to be "Kabala Csarda", a very
small town northeast of Kabola Patak (Iapa, Romania), presumably on
the USSR (now Ukrainain) side of the border, and now believed to have
been absorbed by Szighet, Romania.
- "Korosapsa" -- believed to be a misspelling of Kozep-Apsa (now
Szerednye Vogyane, Ukraine).

Thank you again to everyone who contributed suggestions!


Brooke Schreier Ganz
Los Angeles, California


Hungary SIG #Hungary KUBEL fm Budapest #hungary

judy.spielman@...
 

I was born in Budapest in 1941 and migrated to Sydney Australia in 1949. I
am trying to research my father's family. My father was Istvan Kubel he was
born in Budapest on 6th March 1911. He was a Forced Labourer in the
Hungarian Army and the Army gave me a presumed date of death of 15th January
1943 at Voronezh, Russia. His parents, my grandparents both died in the
Budapest Ghetto at 34 Klauzal utca. I have death certificates for both with
dates of death. Mor Kubel died on 10th February 1945, aged 71 years.
Kornelia ( Nelly ) Kubel died on 19th October,1945 aged 56 years.
I would like help with finding their dates of birth and anything else
possible

Judy Spielman.


Re: ShteLinks #hungary

erikagottfried@...
 

I say amen to Tom Klein's post re "Hungarian 'shtetl'pages." My own =
family
are not >from Budapest, but are country people >from the area around =
Miskolc,
who lived in villages with very small Jewish communities (sometimes just =
a
few families). Their cultural and language background accords with Tom's
description: neither my father, his siblings, or my grandparents =
understood,
spoke, or read Yiddish (although my grandfather later taught himself to =
read
Yiddish when he emigrated to the United States, so that he could read
Yiddish newspapers to keep up with Jewish-related news!), and even none =
or
not all of my great-grandparents. This is something I knew >from an early
age, >from my father's stories about his part of Hungary, but I only =
learned
recently that there are very specific historical reasons for this when I
read Howard Lupovitch's excellent book, "Jews at the Crossroads: =
Tradition
And Accommodation During the Golden Age of the Hungarian Nobility,
1729-1878," based on his dissertation, "The Jews of Miskolc, 1780-1848: =
The
Expansion and Development of Traditional Society in the Age of Royal
Absolutism and Liberal Reform." I recommend both these works to anyone
whose Jewish Hungarian ancestors don't fit the more typical Eastern =
European
Jewish template and wants to know more about it. And while I'm at it, =
let
me give a well-deserved shout-out to Helen Kenvin, because, as it =
happens, I
first heard about about Lupovitch's work >from her wonderful wonderful
Miskolc shtetl links site=20
( http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Miskolc/index.html ), so that's
another argument for more Hungarian Jewish community pages!=20

Erika Gottfried
Teaneck, NJ

GOTTFRIED BRAUN KLEIN REINITZ=20


Subject: Re: ShtetLinks Project Report for October 2009
From: tomk@ecologicaltech.com
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:31:43 -0500
X-Message-Number: 6

the recent shtetlinks report made me think. i noticed that there are =
almost
no hungarian places in the report. and very few hungarian "shtetl" pages
altogether.

personally, i have an aversion to the term "shtetl" - for me it evokes
images >from fiddler on the roof, and the little sleepy villages of =
mostly
poland/russia. somehow it doesn't quite fit in with the image of =
budapest
(before the war), which was a glamorous and cosmopolitan capital city,
competing with vienna and paris. and about one third jewish. not quite
tevya's little "shtetl".

it reminds me a little of the story of jewish emigrants, on their way to
israel, who stopped in a mediterranean port, and were shocked to find =
that
the local (sephardic) jews couldn't speak yiddish. "how can you be =
jewish
and not speak jewish?" they asked.=20

well, many hungarian jews didn't speak yiddish, and didn't live in
shtetlach, either.

but we should, nevertheless, set up commemorative pages to honour our
vanished communities. maybe we should just call them "kehillos" or
"hitkozsegek", and then get on with the work of documenting them.



....... tom klein, toronto


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: ShteLinks #hungary

erikagottfried@...
 

I say amen to Tom Klein's post re "Hungarian 'shtetl'pages." My own =
family
are not >from Budapest, but are country people >from the area around =
Miskolc,
who lived in villages with very small Jewish communities (sometimes just =
a
few families). Their cultural and language background accords with Tom's
description: neither my father, his siblings, or my grandparents =
understood,
spoke, or read Yiddish (although my grandfather later taught himself to =
read
Yiddish when he emigrated to the United States, so that he could read
Yiddish newspapers to keep up with Jewish-related news!), and even none =
or
not all of my great-grandparents. This is something I knew >from an early
age, >from my father's stories about his part of Hungary, but I only =
learned
recently that there are very specific historical reasons for this when I
read Howard Lupovitch's excellent book, "Jews at the Crossroads: =
Tradition
And Accommodation During the Golden Age of the Hungarian Nobility,
1729-1878," based on his dissertation, "The Jews of Miskolc, 1780-1848: =
The
Expansion and Development of Traditional Society in the Age of Royal
Absolutism and Liberal Reform." I recommend both these works to anyone
whose Jewish Hungarian ancestors don't fit the more typical Eastern =
European
Jewish template and wants to know more about it. And while I'm at it, =
let
me give a well-deserved shout-out to Helen Kenvin, because, as it =
happens, I
first heard about about Lupovitch's work >from her wonderful wonderful
Miskolc shtetl links site=20
( http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Miskolc/index.html ), so that's
another argument for more Hungarian Jewish community pages!=20

Erika Gottfried
Teaneck, NJ

GOTTFRIED BRAUN KLEIN REINITZ=20


Subject: Re: ShtetLinks Project Report for October 2009
From: tomk@ecologicaltech.com
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:31:43 -0500
X-Message-Number: 6

the recent shtetlinks report made me think. i noticed that there are =
almost
no hungarian places in the report. and very few hungarian "shtetl" pages
altogether.

personally, i have an aversion to the term "shtetl" - for me it evokes
images >from fiddler on the roof, and the little sleepy villages of =
mostly
poland/russia. somehow it doesn't quite fit in with the image of =
budapest
(before the war), which was a glamorous and cosmopolitan capital city,
competing with vienna and paris. and about one third jewish. not quite
tevya's little "shtetl".

it reminds me a little of the story of jewish emigrants, on their way to
israel, who stopped in a mediterranean port, and were shocked to find =
that
the local (sephardic) jews couldn't speak yiddish. "how can you be =
jewish
and not speak jewish?" they asked.=20

well, many hungarian jews didn't speak yiddish, and didn't live in
shtetlach, either.

but we should, nevertheless, set up commemorative pages to honour our
vanished communities. maybe we should just call them "kehillos" or
"hitkozsegek", and then get on with the work of documenting them.



....... tom klein, toronto


Re: Identifying name of towns #hungary

samara99@...
 

Doesn't appear to work with towns in Italics (major towns) or towns with
diacritical marks, unless those are matched.

Is that correct?

Sam
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Here is a thought for identifying names of towns--if the county is known.

On the Radix website, 1882 Gazeteer page:
http://www.bogardi.com/gen/g104.shtml go to the county in question and
then with 'find' (ctrl F) type in snippets of your town, ie first two
letters, or a segment if a compound word( 'Kis'- will return ALL towns
containing kis).

I found this helpful

Alex Miller, Downingtown PA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Identifying name of towns #hungary

samara99@...
 

Doesn't appear to work with towns in Italics (major towns) or towns with
diacritical marks, unless those are matched.

Is that correct?

Sam
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Here is a thought for identifying names of towns--if the county is known.

On the Radix website, 1882 Gazeteer page:
http://www.bogardi.com/gen/g104.shtml go to the county in question and
then with 'find' (ctrl F) type in snippets of your town, ie first two
letters, or a segment if a compound word( 'Kis'- will return ALL towns
containing kis).

I found this helpful

Alex Miller, Downingtown PA


Births records. Rezekne 1890 #latvia

usdine@...
 

Subject: Births records. Rezekne 1890
From: Christine Usdin
usdine@orange.fr


The translation is done
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/vishki/birthsrezekneninety.html

Christine Usdin
usdine@orange.fr


Latvia SIG #Latvia Births records. Rezekne 1890 #latvia

usdine@...
 

Subject: Births records. Rezekne 1890
From: Christine Usdin
usdine@orange.fr


The translation is done
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/vishki/birthsrezekneninety.html

Christine Usdin
usdine@orange.fr


NY area cemetery photos #general

A S Goldberg
 

I would appreciate hearing >from anyone living close to, or intending to
visit, a couple of NY area cemeteries and would be willing to photograph
some graves for me.

The cemeteries concerned are:

Mt. Neboh, Cypress Hills Street, Glendale, NY
And
Union Field, Cypress Avenue, Ridgewood, NY

Please respond to me direct at alancomm@netmedia.net.il

Many thanks

Abraham Goldberg
Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NY area cemetery photos #general

A S Goldberg
 

I would appreciate hearing >from anyone living close to, or intending to
visit, a couple of NY area cemeteries and would be willing to photograph
some graves for me.

The cemeteries concerned are:

Mt. Neboh, Cypress Hills Street, Glendale, NY
And
Union Field, Cypress Avenue, Ridgewood, NY

Please respond to me direct at alancomm@netmedia.net.il

Many thanks

Abraham Goldberg
Jerusalem


Searching for more NATHAN descendants! #general

Judith Elam
 

I am also searching for information and descendants of the following 3
siblings all born in Berlin:

1. Theodora NATHAN (born May 21, 1839)
2. Helene NATHAN (born April 14, 1841)
3. Ferdinand NATHAN (born May 10, 1842)

Their parents were Wulff NATHAN and Emilie HIRSCHBERG NATHAN (also known as
MOSSNER). Wulff was born in Spandau and Emilie in Salzwedel. Please
contact directly at elamj@hawaii.rr.com

Judith Elam
Kihei, Hawaii


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for more NATHAN descendants! #general

Judith Elam
 

I am also searching for information and descendants of the following 3
siblings all born in Berlin:

1. Theodora NATHAN (born May 21, 1839)
2. Helene NATHAN (born April 14, 1841)
3. Ferdinand NATHAN (born May 10, 1842)

Their parents were Wulff NATHAN and Emilie HIRSCHBERG NATHAN (also known as
MOSSNER). Wulff was born in Spandau and Emilie in Salzwedel. Please
contact directly at elamj@hawaii.rr.com

Judith Elam
Kihei, Hawaii


Searching for NATHAN descendants #general

Judith Elam
 

I am searching for information and descendants of the following NATHAN
sisters, born in Spandau

1. Amalie NATHAN, born 1797
2. Rechel NATHAN, born 1799 - married a man in Koethen
3. Philippine (born Sprinze) NATHAN, born 1787

I would also like information on their father's ancestry: his name is
Nathan MEYER. I don't know where he was born, but he was living in
Spandau by 1771. His wife was Taeubchen WULFF, born in Spandau, and who
in March 1812 adopted the surname NATHAN. She was then known as
Taeubchen NATHAN.

Please contact me directly at

elamj@hawaii.rr.com

Judith Elam
Kihei, Hawaii


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for NATHAN descendants #general

Judith Elam
 

I am searching for information and descendants of the following NATHAN
sisters, born in Spandau

1. Amalie NATHAN, born 1797
2. Rechel NATHAN, born 1799 - married a man in Koethen
3. Philippine (born Sprinze) NATHAN, born 1787

I would also like information on their father's ancestry: his name is
Nathan MEYER. I don't know where he was born, but he was living in
Spandau by 1771. His wife was Taeubchen WULFF, born in Spandau, and who
in March 1812 adopted the surname NATHAN. She was then known as
Taeubchen NATHAN.

Please contact me directly at

elamj@hawaii.rr.com

Judith Elam
Kihei, Hawaii