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Re: Supposed death on board ship coming to NY #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Rochelle Kaplan asked about finding out whether Philip Weinberg, a baby
who was about 6 months old, died en route to America aboard the
Noordam, which arrived at Ellis Island on May 23, 1905.

Death at sea can be a complicated issue. Of course Rochelle should
carefully check the ship manifest for additional information, including
the first and last pages. However, that might have only a simple
notation like "died at sea."

"Pronouncements" of deaths at sea are usually made by a doctor at
the ship's next port of call, so the N.Y.C. death vital records should
be checked for a death certificate. Keep in mind that there's a chance
that the ship may have stopped in Boston or elsewhere before New York -
these should be at one end of the manifest pages but the only difference
in these pages may be the name of the port written at the top.

Saul Issroff pointed out yesterday that if the ship was a British vessel,
a report made back across the Atlantic to English authorities as well.
I believe that at least for some of the time, this applied only to English
citizens, and not to citizens of other countries who were passing through
England on their way to America, even if they stayed in England for a
while.

There are also some previous messages about this subject in the
Discussion Group's archives.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Supposed death on board ship coming to NY #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Rochelle Kaplan asked about finding out whether Philip Weinberg, a baby
who was about 6 months old, died en route to America aboard the
Noordam, which arrived at Ellis Island on May 23, 1905.

Death at sea can be a complicated issue. Of course Rochelle should
carefully check the ship manifest for additional information, including
the first and last pages. However, that might have only a simple
notation like "died at sea."

"Pronouncements" of deaths at sea are usually made by a doctor at
the ship's next port of call, so the N.Y.C. death vital records should
be checked for a death certificate. Keep in mind that there's a chance
that the ship may have stopped in Boston or elsewhere before New York -
these should be at one end of the manifest pages but the only difference
in these pages may be the name of the port written at the top.

Saul Issroff pointed out yesterday that if the ship was a British vessel,
a report made back across the Atlantic to English authorities as well.
I believe that at least for some of the time, this applied only to English
citizens, and not to citizens of other countries who were passing through
England on their way to America, even if they stayed in England for a
while.

There are also some previous messages about this subject in the
Discussion Group's archives.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


Re: Name change documents, 20th century ?New York #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Deb Holman asked where to find proof of a name change in New YorkCity.

In New York State, name changes can be done in either the civil or
criminal divisions of State Supreme Court. In the Civil Division in
Manhattan at 111 Center Street in room 118, I remember the ledger or index
books being thin, with only one or two years of name changes in each, and
they must be requested at a window, so the procedure is somewhat
cumbersome. At the Criminal Division at 60 Center Street in room 103B,
it's easier because many years are in much thicker ledgers. In Kings County
(Brooklyn), the situation is similar, with indexes in both court divisions.
Estelle Guzik's book "Genealogical Resources in New York" clearly explains
where the indices and the records are located.

However, it should be noted that the name change process is time-consuming
and costs a few dollars in notary and court fees that our immigrant
ancestors may not have had. It was cheaper and more convenient to
change a name just by calling oneself something different, and then,
of course, there's no documentation. Decades ago one didn't have to show
a driver's license, social security card, or birth certificate to open a
bank account or do other 'official' business, so formal name changes
weren't required like they are nowadays. Judging >from what is probably
millions of people who were born in Eastern Europe but lived in the U.S.
with names like Morris, Phillip, Frances, and Sadie, without evidence of
a name change, I suspect that the informal method was done far more often.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Name change documents, 20th century ?New York #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Deb Holman asked where to find proof of a name change in New YorkCity.

In New York State, name changes can be done in either the civil or
criminal divisions of State Supreme Court. In the Civil Division in
Manhattan at 111 Center Street in room 118, I remember the ledger or index
books being thin, with only one or two years of name changes in each, and
they must be requested at a window, so the procedure is somewhat
cumbersome. At the Criminal Division at 60 Center Street in room 103B,
it's easier because many years are in much thicker ledgers. In Kings County
(Brooklyn), the situation is similar, with indexes in both court divisions.
Estelle Guzik's book "Genealogical Resources in New York" clearly explains
where the indices and the records are located.

However, it should be noted that the name change process is time-consuming
and costs a few dollars in notary and court fees that our immigrant
ancestors may not have had. It was cheaper and more convenient to
change a name just by calling oneself something different, and then,
of course, there's no documentation. Decades ago one didn't have to show
a driver's license, social security card, or birth certificate to open a
bank account or do other 'official' business, so formal name changes
weren't required like they are nowadays. Judging >from what is probably
millions of people who were born in Eastern Europe but lived in the U.S.
with names like Morris, Phillip, Frances, and Sadie, without evidence of
a name change, I suspect that the informal method was done far more often.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


JOWBR Update Announcement Correction #general

Nolan Altman
 

I want to apologize for an error I made in attribution for one of the
noteworthy additions to JOWBR.

The records >from the Home of Peace Cemetery & Emanu-El Mausoleum in Colma,
CA. were submitted by Pierre Hahn and Rosanne Leeson >from The San Francisco
Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society (SFBAJGS)
http://www.jewishgen.org/sfbajgs/

My apologies to Rosanne and Pierre and thanks to ALL of you who pointed it
out to us. :}

Nolan Altman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JOWBR Update Announcement Correction #general

Nolan Altman
 

I want to apologize for an error I made in attribution for one of the
noteworthy additions to JOWBR.

The records >from the Home of Peace Cemetery & Emanu-El Mausoleum in Colma,
CA. were submitted by Pierre Hahn and Rosanne Leeson >from The San Francisco
Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society (SFBAJGS)
http://www.jewishgen.org/sfbajgs/

My apologies to Rosanne and Pierre and thanks to ALL of you who pointed it
out to us. :}

Nolan Altman


Re: Language barrier #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Agnes Sotet- Sonnenfeld wrote
During my research I found that in Hungary there are many people who
would like to find their "lost" relatives, yet they can't join Jewish Gen
because they don't speak English.
snip..

Dear Agnes,

JGFF (Jewish Genealogy Family Finder) is available for a number of years,
beside the English, in Spanish, French, Spanish and Hebrew.
Please visit JGFF home page and review language options at the bottom of the
screen under: JGFF FAQ: Frequently Asked Questions about the JGFF

http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/

It would be abviously nice if SIG (Special Interest Groups) administration
folks will provide basic instructions to allow people to navigate their
respective sites.in their respective native languages.

Best Regards,

Alexander Sharon
JGFF Editor


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Language barrier #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Agnes Sotet- Sonnenfeld wrote
During my research I found that in Hungary there are many people who
would like to find their "lost" relatives, yet they can't join Jewish Gen
because they don't speak English.
snip..

Dear Agnes,

JGFF (Jewish Genealogy Family Finder) is available for a number of years,
beside the English, in Spanish, French, Spanish and Hebrew.
Please visit JGFF home page and review language options at the bottom of the
screen under: JGFF FAQ: Frequently Asked Questions about the JGFF

http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/

It would be abviously nice if SIG (Special Interest Groups) administration
folks will provide basic instructions to allow people to navigate their
respective sites.in their respective native languages.

Best Regards,

Alexander Sharon
JGFF Editor


Otto KRAUS of Newark, New Jersey #general

Paul Lewis <pmlewis6391@...>
 

I am searching for information about Otto Kraus. He lived in Newark, New
Jersey in the 1930's and 40's and owned Associated Food Stores.

He had a son who attended Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, in Troy, New
York, and graduated in the late 1930's or early 1940's. He then joined the
Navy and served on the USS Yorktown. He was lucky enough to be off the USS
Yorktown just before it was sunk at Midway in June 1942.

Either Otto or his wife was related to a Bessie Waldman Klein who lived in
Allentown, Pennsylvania.

If you know anything about this family or their descendants please contact
me privately.
Thank you.

Paul Lewis
pmlewis6391@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Otto KRAUS of Newark, New Jersey #general

Paul Lewis <pmlewis6391@...>
 

I am searching for information about Otto Kraus. He lived in Newark, New
Jersey in the 1930's and 40's and owned Associated Food Stores.

He had a son who attended Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, in Troy, New
York, and graduated in the late 1930's or early 1940's. He then joined the
Navy and served on the USS Yorktown. He was lucky enough to be off the USS
Yorktown just before it was sunk at Midway in June 1942.

Either Otto or his wife was related to a Bessie Waldman Klein who lived in
Allentown, Pennsylvania.

If you know anything about this family or their descendants please contact
me privately.
Thank you.

Paul Lewis
pmlewis6391@...


Re: Viewmate 1385 #general

Ian Singer <iansinger@...>
 

Ava Cohn wrote:
I wish to clear up a misconception that our ancestors were not fashionably
up-to-date. Yes, some were not. However, what they wore depended more on
the particular person, economic status and proximity to a large city.
But if you look on my website where it shows movies I have been in it
shows me formally dressed in a jacket and a hat similar to a bowler with
my twin. Well it was posed and I do not have a twin unless they are my
doppelganger. I also have pictures of women that look like they are
formally dressed and in fact it was just a wrap. AND we have all seen
pictures of someone in stocks.

Sometimes what you see just is not real.

Ian Singer


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Viewmate 1385 #general

Ian Singer <iansinger@...>
 

Ava Cohn wrote:
I wish to clear up a misconception that our ancestors were not fashionably
up-to-date. Yes, some were not. However, what they wore depended more on
the particular person, economic status and proximity to a large city.
But if you look on my website where it shows movies I have been in it
shows me formally dressed in a jacket and a hat similar to a bowler with
my twin. Well it was posed and I do not have a twin unless they are my
doppelganger. I also have pictures of women that look like they are
formally dressed and in fact it was just a wrap. AND we have all seen
pictures of someone in stocks.

Sometimes what you see just is not real.

Ian Singer


Translation fron Russian, Ukrainian, Belorussian #general

L. K. <lkorekh@...>
 

Shalom everyone:

Recently, a Genner asked for help in translating a Russian document.
I am happy to translate >from Russian, Ukrainian or Belorussian to
English for anyone who needs my help.

Shalom u'vraha,

Leonid (Levy)

MODERATOR NOTE: Readers seeking assistance should contact Leonid
privately and ascertain under what conditions Leonid's help is offered


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Translation fron Russian, Ukrainian, Belorussian #general

L. K. <lkorekh@...>
 

Shalom everyone:

Recently, a Genner asked for help in translating a Russian document.
I am happy to translate >from Russian, Ukrainian or Belorussian to
English for anyone who needs my help.

Shalom u'vraha,

Leonid (Levy)

MODERATOR NOTE: Readers seeking assistance should contact Leonid
privately and ascertain under what conditions Leonid's help is offered


UK Jewish immigrants? #unitedkingdom

nomietai@...
 

For a research project, I am seeking a representative number of people-- men,
women, adults, children, Sephardic or Ashkenazi--whose ancestors/family
immigrated to England between 1750- 1948... ideal candidates would be
knowledgeable about his/her roots, and be willing to share stories and photos.

Did your ancestors escape the 1882 Odessa Pogrom?
Were they among the first Sephardic Jews to arrive in the 1700s?
Did they arrive on Kindertransport, then settle in?
Did members of your family immigrate to the UK >from Bessarabia, Belarussia, Slovakia, then emigrate to Canada, Israel, or Australia?
Was the UK a way-stop to America?

Any other scenarios are warmly welcomed.

Please contact me privately. All responses are gratefully accepted!


AUTHOR, Between Galicia and Hungary: The Jews of Stropkov

Melody Amsel-Arieli
RESEARCHING
Slovakia: Amsel, Schonfeld, Baum, Landau,Einhorn,Ritter
Bessarabia: Zazulia, Morgenstern,Cushilevitz,Pollak
Galicia: Einstein
WEBSITE, http://amselbird.tripod.com/

MODERATORS NOTE: May I suggest you contact
http://www.jewishgen.org/CURE/Contact.asp?to=59358LM
to describe your project and see if it could be published on the JCR-UK site.
It appears to be the type of project that would be of particular interest to our
members.


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom UK Jewish immigrants? #unitedkingdom

nomietai@...
 

For a research project, I am seeking a representative number of people-- men,
women, adults, children, Sephardic or Ashkenazi--whose ancestors/family
immigrated to England between 1750- 1948... ideal candidates would be
knowledgeable about his/her roots, and be willing to share stories and photos.

Did your ancestors escape the 1882 Odessa Pogrom?
Were they among the first Sephardic Jews to arrive in the 1700s?
Did they arrive on Kindertransport, then settle in?
Did members of your family immigrate to the UK >from Bessarabia, Belarussia, Slovakia, then emigrate to Canada, Israel, or Australia?
Was the UK a way-stop to America?

Any other scenarios are warmly welcomed.

Please contact me privately. All responses are gratefully accepted!


AUTHOR, Between Galicia and Hungary: The Jews of Stropkov

Melody Amsel-Arieli
RESEARCHING
Slovakia: Amsel, Schonfeld, Baum, Landau,Einhorn,Ritter
Bessarabia: Zazulia, Morgenstern,Cushilevitz,Pollak
Galicia: Einstein
WEBSITE, http://amselbird.tripod.com/

MODERATORS NOTE: May I suggest you contact
http://www.jewishgen.org/CURE/Contact.asp?to=59358LM
to describe your project and see if it could be published on the JCR-UK site.
It appears to be the type of project that would be of particular interest to our
members.


Radio inteview with Howard Margol on 101.9CHAI FM #southafrica

Ronnie Mink
 

I feel sure that some members of the South African SIG may be interested in tuning
in to the following radio-show that will be aired on Sunday, January 10th 2010.
Although it emanates >from Johannesburg, South Africa, it can easily be heard via
audio-streaming. The show is called ".....The Rest is History" and is hosted by
Ronnie Mink. It airs every Sunday >from 6 - 8 pm local time, (GMT +2 hours), and the
guest this coming Sunday (January 10th, 2010) is the celebrated genealogist, HOWARD
MARGOL , the Past President of the International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies and of LitvakSIG. The main theme of the interview will centre around
Lithuanian Jewry, and the issues to be covered, among others will include aspects
of research such as : "How to research our Lithuanian origins", "What can
JewishGen offer the researcher setting out on his task?","Utilising archival
material, either local or >from Lithuania, and how to access the latter",
"Holocaust and post-Holocaust records", the "Lithuanian internal passport'and
finally, tours to Lithuania today. To tune in to this discussion >from anywhere in
the global village via audio-streaming, simply go to CHAI FM's website at :
www.chaifm.com and follow the simple instructions on their home page (It simply
requires one click of the mouse!) Should you wish to call-in at any time during
the programme, you are welcome to do so. Details of the phone numbers to dial will
be given during the course of the show. Date : Sunday, January 10 2010. Time :
6-8 pm South African and Israel time, 11am-1pm EST 4-6pm if you're in London.
Sincerely
Ronnie Mink


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Radio inteview with Howard Margol on 101.9CHAI FM #southafrica

Ronnie Mink
 

I feel sure that some members of the South African SIG may be interested in tuning
in to the following radio-show that will be aired on Sunday, January 10th 2010.
Although it emanates >from Johannesburg, South Africa, it can easily be heard via
audio-streaming. The show is called ".....The Rest is History" and is hosted by
Ronnie Mink. It airs every Sunday >from 6 - 8 pm local time, (GMT +2 hours), and the
guest this coming Sunday (January 10th, 2010) is the celebrated genealogist, HOWARD
MARGOL , the Past President of the International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies and of LitvakSIG. The main theme of the interview will centre around
Lithuanian Jewry, and the issues to be covered, among others will include aspects
of research such as : "How to research our Lithuanian origins", "What can
JewishGen offer the researcher setting out on his task?","Utilising archival
material, either local or >from Lithuania, and how to access the latter",
"Holocaust and post-Holocaust records", the "Lithuanian internal passport'and
finally, tours to Lithuania today. To tune in to this discussion >from anywhere in
the global village via audio-streaming, simply go to CHAI FM's website at :
www.chaifm.com and follow the simple instructions on their home page (It simply
requires one click of the mouse!) Should you wish to call-in at any time during
the programme, you are welcome to do so. Details of the phone numbers to dial will
be given during the course of the show. Date : Sunday, January 10 2010. Time :
6-8 pm South African and Israel time, 11am-1pm EST 4-6pm if you're in London.
Sincerely
Ronnie Mink


Chai FM interview - South African Jewish genealogy #southafrica

Saul Issroff <saul65@...>
 

I am being interviewed by Kathy Kaler MONDAY 11 Jan for the slot of
11.10 - 11.55 am. It will be broadcast live as part of their daily
weekday magazine show, In Your Element on 101.9 Chai FM.

The subject of the interview will be South African Jewish genealogy,
the SA-Special Interest Group of JewishGen, Lithuanian roots and the
Holocaust in Lithuania.

This is a Jewish community radio station and also Johannesburg's third
talk station and the only Jewish talk station outside of Israel. That
said, we also have many listeners tuning in to the station via audio
stream >from our website www.chaifm.com <http://www.chaifm.com>.

The show can be accessed on the radio on the frequency 101.9 FM. in
the Johannesburg area. For streaming audio country- and worldwide, it
can be accessed on http://www.chaifm.com .
--
Regards

Saul Issroff

*** Moderator note: The time given is SA time, which is GMT+2.


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Chai FM interview - South African Jewish genealogy #southafrica

Saul Issroff <saul65@...>
 

I am being interviewed by Kathy Kaler MONDAY 11 Jan for the slot of
11.10 - 11.55 am. It will be broadcast live as part of their daily
weekday magazine show, In Your Element on 101.9 Chai FM.

The subject of the interview will be South African Jewish genealogy,
the SA-Special Interest Group of JewishGen, Lithuanian roots and the
Holocaust in Lithuania.

This is a Jewish community radio station and also Johannesburg's third
talk station and the only Jewish talk station outside of Israel. That
said, we also have many listeners tuning in to the station via audio
stream >from our website www.chaifm.com <http://www.chaifm.com>.

The show can be accessed on the radio on the frequency 101.9 FM. in
the Johannesburg area. For streaming audio country- and worldwide, it
can be accessed on http://www.chaifm.com .
--
Regards

Saul Issroff

*** Moderator note: The time given is SA time, which is GMT+2.