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Loyalty Lodge cemetery in City Fairfield, CT #general

Roni Pelled
 

Shalom

If someone is anywhere near the Loyalty Lodge cemetery in City Fairfield,CT I'd be
pleased if you could take a picture for me there. I have the row and grave
numbers. Please contact me privately and I will provide you with exact locations

I would really appreciate the help
Many thanks

Roni Pelled
Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Loyalty Lodge cemetery in City Fairfield, CT #general

Roni Pelled
 

Shalom

If someone is anywhere near the Loyalty Lodge cemetery in City Fairfield,CT I'd be
pleased if you could take a picture for me there. I have the row and grave
numbers. Please contact me privately and I will provide you with exact locations

I would really appreciate the help
Many thanks

Roni Pelled
Israel


help with Russian, please #general

Debbie Long <d_long@...>
 

Dear Genners:

First, thank you to those of you who offered suggestions for obtaining a 1939 birth
record >from the Polish State Archives. Thanks to several suggestions, I have
already obtained the precise date on the record.

If you can help me translate the following document >from Russian to English, I
would be most grateful:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=14364

Debbie Long
Searching for GALAS and DOBRYZNSKI of Lodz, Jezow, Ujadz, Zgierz and environs
MUNK and WEISZ of Budapest


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen help with Russian, please #general

Debbie Long <d_long@...>
 

Dear Genners:

First, thank you to those of you who offered suggestions for obtaining a 1939 birth
record >from the Polish State Archives. Thanks to several suggestions, I have
already obtained the precise date on the record.

If you can help me translate the following document >from Russian to English, I
would be most grateful:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=14364

Debbie Long
Searching for GALAS and DOBRYZNSKI of Lodz, Jezow, Ujadz, Zgierz and environs
MUNK and WEISZ of Budapest


Looking for the family of Sam Srulowitz #general

Fred Selss
 

I really want to thank everyone that sent me information. David Rubin did indeed
find the correct Passager Manifest for Shoine Srulowicz, which had been
searching for many years but overlooked this entry. It just shows how the
JewishGenDiscussion group can really help one another. I have crashed through
another "brick wall" and I have a new piece of information to investigate >from the
manifest.The manifest gives a town in Austria as his last know residence Tbrish or
Ibrish or Zbrish. His half brother Bene also lists Austria as his place of birth
on a Census Record.Kamyanets-Podilskyy, Ukraine was 22 miles >from the border of
Galicia so know I will check out this surname in Galicia and Poland.Thank you
Fred Selss
Palm Beach County, FL

David Rubin writes: On the Ellis Island database there is a Stoine Stulowicz that
arrived >from Hamburg on the Kaiserin Auguste Victoria on May 20, 1906. I noticed
on his petition that he wrote May 25, 1906. If you look at the manifest this is
clearly SRULOWICZ. The first names appears to look like Shime not Stoine. You can
compare the -h- with the-h- in Chicago which is written several times on the
manifest. There is also a crossed -t-in Detroit.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for the family of Sam Srulowitz #general

Fred Selss
 

I really want to thank everyone that sent me information. David Rubin did indeed
find the correct Passager Manifest for Shoine Srulowicz, which had been
searching for many years but overlooked this entry. It just shows how the
JewishGenDiscussion group can really help one another. I have crashed through
another "brick wall" and I have a new piece of information to investigate >from the
manifest.The manifest gives a town in Austria as his last know residence Tbrish or
Ibrish or Zbrish. His half brother Bene also lists Austria as his place of birth
on a Census Record.Kamyanets-Podilskyy, Ukraine was 22 miles >from the border of
Galicia so know I will check out this surname in Galicia and Poland.Thank you
Fred Selss
Palm Beach County, FL

David Rubin writes: On the Ellis Island database there is a Stoine Stulowicz that
arrived >from Hamburg on the Kaiserin Auguste Victoria on May 20, 1906. I noticed
on his petition that he wrote May 25, 1906. If you look at the manifest this is
clearly SRULOWICZ. The first names appears to look like Shime not Stoine. You can
compare the -h- with the-h- in Chicago which is written several times on the
manifest. There is also a crossed -t-in Detroit.


Researching names, MANNHALTER, SAUER, KAUTZ , HESS and VEIL #germany

joyce Johnson <jjohnson-lc@...>
 

Hello

I am interested in the possible variations of the names MANNHALTER SAUER
KAUTZ HESS and VIEL. All of these families of my paternal and maternal
ancestors came >from Germany originally in the 1700s and then all families
later emigrated into Ukraine and Bessarabia.

When I have used the soundex system to bring up these names there are huge
numbers and variations of names and towns one can use in the database search.
Itis hard to pinpoint exact or near exact spellings.

I read once while doing my research on surnames that a Jewish name of origin
was never to be changed or spelled differently once it was assigned or
adopted by the family.

How reliable is the Daitch-Mokotoff sound system in researching surnames and
towns/villages of our ancestors? Does anyone have information on this or
know anything of these names?

On my paternal grandfather (MANNHALTER) I have done 25+ years of research
on and still show it to bespelled with either one N or two Ns in the name
but the other names listed I have wondered and sometimes seen other variations
in them as many Jewish names were said to have changed or reasigned in the
latter years of the 1700s or 1800s when they did not like their original
assigned or adopted names.

I have heard that the surname of KATZ might have had other variations
to it and have wondered whether KAUTZ might have been one variation.

Thank you all for all the great e-mail replies I received also on my previo
us questions regarding the possible conversions of Jewish people to the Lut
heran faith. It was all very helpful and I replied back to some but could not
reply to all.

Joyce Johnson (JG ID #310654) jjohnson-lc@hotmail.com Loveland Colorado


German SIG #Germany Researching names, MANNHALTER, SAUER, KAUTZ , HESS and VEIL #germany

joyce Johnson <jjohnson-lc@...>
 

Hello

I am interested in the possible variations of the names MANNHALTER SAUER
KAUTZ HESS and VIEL. All of these families of my paternal and maternal
ancestors came >from Germany originally in the 1700s and then all families
later emigrated into Ukraine and Bessarabia.

When I have used the soundex system to bring up these names there are huge
numbers and variations of names and towns one can use in the database search.
Itis hard to pinpoint exact or near exact spellings.

I read once while doing my research on surnames that a Jewish name of origin
was never to be changed or spelled differently once it was assigned or
adopted by the family.

How reliable is the Daitch-Mokotoff sound system in researching surnames and
towns/villages of our ancestors? Does anyone have information on this or
know anything of these names?

On my paternal grandfather (MANNHALTER) I have done 25+ years of research
on and still show it to bespelled with either one N or two Ns in the name
but the other names listed I have wondered and sometimes seen other variations
in them as many Jewish names were said to have changed or reasigned in the
latter years of the 1700s or 1800s when they did not like their original
assigned or adopted names.

I have heard that the surname of KATZ might have had other variations
to it and have wondered whether KAUTZ might have been one variation.

Thank you all for all the great e-mail replies I received also on my previo
us questions regarding the possible conversions of Jewish people to the Lut
heran faith. It was all very helpful and I replied back to some but could not
reply to all.

Joyce Johnson (JG ID #310654) jjohnson-lc@hotmail.com Loveland Colorado


Re: What should I do? #general

Marlene Bishow <mlbishow@...>
 

From: "Trudy Barch" <cousintrudy@comcast.net>
"The young gal is telling me strongly not to include the 2nd wife or her children.
She says the 2nd wife was a mean person and they have not spoken to her since dad
passed away..."

Hi Trudy:

Since the woman's children are not the offspring of your cousin, I would not
include them (unless he adopted them), but I would include the name of his second
wife. I would try to explain to the young lady that it is not a good practice to
leave a spouse out of the record, even if they are not nice people. I would tell
her that you are leaving the children out because they are not related.

I personally would include the names of her children in the notes for her, with a
statement that they resided with their mother and her husband during their
formative years.

We walk a fine line when we are asked to change or omit facts.

Good luck,
Marlene Bishow
Immediate Past President
Jewish Genealogy society of Greater Washington
Project Manager Jews Buried in Arlington National Cemetery
Co-Chair 31st IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: What should I do? #general

Marlene Bishow <mlbishow@...>
 

From: "Trudy Barch" <cousintrudy@comcast.net>
"The young gal is telling me strongly not to include the 2nd wife or her children.
She says the 2nd wife was a mean person and they have not spoken to her since dad
passed away..."

Hi Trudy:

Since the woman's children are not the offspring of your cousin, I would not
include them (unless he adopted them), but I would include the name of his second
wife. I would try to explain to the young lady that it is not a good practice to
leave a spouse out of the record, even if they are not nice people. I would tell
her that you are leaving the children out because they are not related.

I personally would include the names of her children in the notes for her, with a
statement that they resided with their mother and her husband during their
formative years.

We walk a fine line when we are asked to change or omit facts.

Good luck,
Marlene Bishow
Immediate Past President
Jewish Genealogy society of Greater Washington
Project Manager Jews Buried in Arlington National Cemetery
Co-Chair 31st IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy


Re: what should I do? #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Trudy Barch asked about how she should record a second marriage on her family tree,
that her cousin asked her not to include.

My solution to this type of problem is taken right out of business school -- keep
two sets of books. This is similar to discovering family secrets, or even having
a few of our own, such as discovering a first marriage that children who are now
adults never knew about. Just because I know about a problem doesn't mean that
I'm obligated to stir up bad feelings between those involved, maybe even between
children and their own parents or step-parents, or between the children and me.

So keep a separate family tree along with the birth and death certificate numbers
and other information that is not essential for others to see. If you're in touch
with the children >from the other marriage, they can see their mother on a different
version of a family tree that you send them - it doesn't sound like the two sets
of children are in touch, and even if they are, it's unlikely that they'll be
sharing each others family trees. Although it requires careful record keeping, at
least you'll be able to stay in touch with relatives that way.

We are often asked to do things like not include a second spouse or delete a
birthday even >from information that's being sent only to relatives. It doesn't
mean that you can't keep a record of it to yourself.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: what should I do? #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Trudy Barch asked about how she should record a second marriage on her family tree,
that her cousin asked her not to include.

My solution to this type of problem is taken right out of business school -- keep
two sets of books. This is similar to discovering family secrets, or even having
a few of our own, such as discovering a first marriage that children who are now
adults never knew about. Just because I know about a problem doesn't mean that
I'm obligated to stir up bad feelings between those involved, maybe even between
children and their own parents or step-parents, or between the children and me.

So keep a separate family tree along with the birth and death certificate numbers
and other information that is not essential for others to see. If you're in touch
with the children >from the other marriage, they can see their mother on a different
version of a family tree that you send them - it doesn't sound like the two sets
of children are in touch, and even if they are, it's unlikely that they'll be
sharing each others family trees. Although it requires careful record keeping, at
least you'll be able to stay in touch with relatives that way.

We are often asked to do things like not include a second spouse or delete a
birthday even >from information that's being sent only to relatives. It doesn't
mean that you can't keep a record of it to yourself.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


Angel Island, Ellis Island of the West is 100 Years Old Today #general

Jan Meisels Allen <janmallen@...>
 

Today, January 21, 2010 is the 100th anniversary of U.S. immigration station on
Angel Island, located in San Francisco Bay. Angel Island was the US Pacific
Coast's main entry point for over a half million immigrants, between 1910 and 1940.
It was the Asian gateway to the United States - the Ellis Island of the West. About
1/3 of the immigrants were non- Asians. While Chinese immigrants were the largest
group also passing through the station were Koreans, Russians and Mexicans. The
National Archives site says about Angel Island: Due to WWI, ships >from Mexico
brought people of every nationality....Between 1915 and 1919, Russian Jewish men,
escaping conscription or deserting the army, and later mothers, children, and
other relatives of American residents, constituted a large share of the non-Asians
arriving at Angel Island.... Once the US joined WWI then "enemy aliens >from Germany
and the Austria-Hungarian Empire were detained and interrogated at Angel Island.
Since 1997 Angel Island is a National Historic Landmark.

To read more on Angel Island see the (US) National Archives write-up at:
http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2009/summer/angel.html

Below is an article >from the San Francisco Gate http://tinyurl.com/ydgvonz

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS Director-at-large and
Chairperson, Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Angel Island, Ellis Island of the West is 100 Years Old Today #general

Jan Meisels Allen <janmallen@...>
 

Today, January 21, 2010 is the 100th anniversary of U.S. immigration station on
Angel Island, located in San Francisco Bay. Angel Island was the US Pacific
Coast's main entry point for over a half million immigrants, between 1910 and 1940.
It was the Asian gateway to the United States - the Ellis Island of the West. About
1/3 of the immigrants were non- Asians. While Chinese immigrants were the largest
group also passing through the station were Koreans, Russians and Mexicans. The
National Archives site says about Angel Island: Due to WWI, ships >from Mexico
brought people of every nationality....Between 1915 and 1919, Russian Jewish men,
escaping conscription or deserting the army, and later mothers, children, and
other relatives of American residents, constituted a large share of the non-Asians
arriving at Angel Island.... Once the US joined WWI then "enemy aliens >from Germany
and the Austria-Hungarian Empire were detained and interrogated at Angel Island.
Since 1997 Angel Island is a National Historic Landmark.

To read more on Angel Island see the (US) National Archives write-up at:
http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2009/summer/angel.html

Below is an article >from the San Francisco Gate http://tinyurl.com/ydgvonz

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS Director-at-large and
Chairperson, Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: what should I do? #general

Selma Neubauer <sweethawk2@...>
 

Trudy Barch asked whether to include a relative's 2nd marriage and children (see
message below). Trudy, IMHO, include him, and his second wife, and their children,
if, in fact they are part of the family you're researching. I'm guessing that by
"include" you mean in your database. No need to tell her; she probably won't know
or remember. To those of you who don't agree with me, I have a list of stories and
people I've been asked not to include which I'll be happy to send you.(VBG). Most
of the "askers" are long dead; others don't care any more. Selma
Selma Neubauer
Jenkintown, PA USA
(outside of Philadelphia)
sweethawk2@verizon.net
Researching:
WAGMAN, PEPPER, GALOON, SCHMOISH, DEUTSCH, ZUCK, Kolki, Turiysk, Olyka, Argentina,
Uruguay, Philadelphia PA, Montreal Canada; NEUBAUER - Radekhov, Philadelphia;
Indianapolis IN; HOROWITZ - Oshmiany, Philadelphia; BRODSKY - Teraspol Moldova,
Kharkov Russia, Bristol PA, Terre Haute IN; SINGER - Kishinev, Bristol PA;
NEWMAN - Kishinev, Teraspol Moldova, Kolki

From: "Trudy Barch" <cousintrudy@comcast.net>
I recently found a cousin using Facebook (YAE) Her biological parents were
divorced and her father (my relative) remarried a lady with children. He is now
deceased. The young gal is telling me strongly not to include the 2nd wife or her
children. She says the 2nd wife was a mean person and they have not spoken to
her since dad passed away. What do you recommend I do?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: what should I do? #general

Selma Neubauer <sweethawk2@...>
 

Trudy Barch asked whether to include a relative's 2nd marriage and children (see
message below). Trudy, IMHO, include him, and his second wife, and their children,
if, in fact they are part of the family you're researching. I'm guessing that by
"include" you mean in your database. No need to tell her; she probably won't know
or remember. To those of you who don't agree with me, I have a list of stories and
people I've been asked not to include which I'll be happy to send you.(VBG). Most
of the "askers" are long dead; others don't care any more. Selma
Selma Neubauer
Jenkintown, PA USA
(outside of Philadelphia)
sweethawk2@verizon.net
Researching:
WAGMAN, PEPPER, GALOON, SCHMOISH, DEUTSCH, ZUCK, Kolki, Turiysk, Olyka, Argentina,
Uruguay, Philadelphia PA, Montreal Canada; NEUBAUER - Radekhov, Philadelphia;
Indianapolis IN; HOROWITZ - Oshmiany, Philadelphia; BRODSKY - Teraspol Moldova,
Kharkov Russia, Bristol PA, Terre Haute IN; SINGER - Kishinev, Bristol PA;
NEWMAN - Kishinev, Teraspol Moldova, Kolki

From: "Trudy Barch" <cousintrudy@comcast.net>
I recently found a cousin using Facebook (YAE) Her biological parents were
divorced and her father (my relative) remarried a lady with children. He is now
deceased. The young gal is telling me strongly not to include the 2nd wife or her
children. She says the 2nd wife was a mean person and they have not spoken to
her since dad passed away. What do you recommend I do?


Tashkent refugees #general

joebein365@...
 

I have read the article by Peter Lande - Jewish refugees in Tashkent. Using the
database I have found cards for a few of my relatives. I would like to find a way to
have someone see if they can locate any of my relatives, or their offspring in
Tashkent.

It would be greatly appreciated.

Joe Bein

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tashkent refugees #general

joebein365@...
 

I have read the article by Peter Lande - Jewish refugees in Tashkent. Using the
database I have found cards for a few of my relatives. I would like to find a way to
have someone see if they can locate any of my relatives, or their offspring in
Tashkent.

It would be greatly appreciated.

Joe Bein

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you have research tips that are of general interest, please submit your message to
JewishGen


"J" passports - Thank You #germany

moschpun@...
 

Hello,
I would like to thank all of you who answered me abour the "J" passports or
about the missing "J" on Jewish passports.
best regards,

?? Raisa Schpun in France

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German SIG #Germany "J" passports - Thank You #germany

moschpun@...
 

Hello,
I would like to thank all of you who answered me abour the "J" passports or
about the missing "J" on Jewish passports.
best regards,

?? Raisa Schpun in France

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standard USA English alphabet in email to JewishGen lists. They are usually
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