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Third Class Accomodations in 1920-1923
#general
Bill Saslow <bigbear011@...>
My family emigrated >from europe between 1920 and 1923. Their
manifests mentioned third class, but it is unclear what it meant at that time. I've read that third class (Steerage) was large holds of hundreds of people in bunkbeds, with little food or ventilation. I also know that there was the "Old Steerage" and the "New Steerage" which was similar to second class, staterooms with less appointments. Is it possible, during the time in question that they still had to contend with the old steerage? The ships they sailed were the Megantic, Zeeland, and Canada. Thanks, Bill Saslow Middletown, RI USA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Third Class Accomodations in 1920-1923
#general
Bill Saslow <bigbear011@...>
My family emigrated >from europe between 1920 and 1923. Their
manifests mentioned third class, but it is unclear what it meant at that time. I've read that third class (Steerage) was large holds of hundreds of people in bunkbeds, with little food or ventilation. I also know that there was the "Old Steerage" and the "New Steerage" which was similar to second class, staterooms with less appointments. Is it possible, during the time in question that they still had to contend with the old steerage? The ships they sailed were the Megantic, Zeeland, and Canada. Thanks, Bill Saslow Middletown, RI USA
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Czectochowa Poland Torah at the Air Force Academy
#general
susiestree@...
from the Colorado Springs Gazette-Telegraph 28 April, 1990:Torah scroll donation: A torah (the first five books of Moses) that survived the Holocaust will be donated to the Air Force Academy Cadet Jewish Chapel at a 3PM ceremony Sunday. The Torah will be part of a memorial for the 6 million Jews who died in the Holocaust. Guest speaker will be Harry Rapaport of Melville, NY, who found the Torah in a ritual bathhouse in Czestochowa, Poland in 1988. This is >from an Air Force archivist in Colorado Springs at the Air Force Academy whose name is Paul Martin. The Air Force asked me to write in an effort to learn more about this scroll and the person who donated it. Please contact me if you have information. Susan Boyer Sherman Oaks, CA
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Seeking: Leiser WEISZ + Salomon WEISZ, migrants to USA in 1901
#general
Eva Blanket
Hi all....in your usual and amazing collective foresights, I would like to
ask for your kind help, as I am having difficulties in finding any information (eg. Census, Drafts, Naturalization etc.) on 2 men, possibly twin brothers, who arrived in New York in 1901 >from a small town called 'Zugo'(later 'Hukliva'), Hungary. They were both born in 1873 and both are married on their arrival. The only information I can find are their Ellis Island Ship Manifests and I've included the links to these: 1. Salomon WEISZ (line 30): http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?MID=07502643520227835424& pID=102826020090& 2. Leiser WEISZ (line 1) : http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=102826020031 I've tried Anglicizing their given names (but maybe haven't found the right version eg. Solomon, Sidney, Sigmund, Lewis, Louis). Also tried using 'WEISS'. Can anyone offer any further help as to where I could go >from here? I've reached that 'brick wall' early on. Many thanks, Eva BLANKET Sydney, Australia JewishGen ID: 105793 Searching: BLANK(I)ET: Lodz, Lask,Ujazd, Brzeziny, Tomaszow - Poland) BLANKET: (London - England) DAVIDOVITS/DAVIDOVICS:(Szinever,Chust-Czechoslovakia; USA+Israel) DAVIS: (USA) HERMAN/N: (Nisni Verecky- Czechoslovakia; USA + Israel) NEIMAN/NEUMAN:(Toron, Talamas, Hukliva-Czechoslovakia + Israel) WEIS/S/Z (Talamas,Hukliva,Nisni Verecky-Czech.;USA+Israel)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Czectochowa Poland Torah at the Air Force Academy
#general
susiestree@...
from the Colorado Springs Gazette-Telegraph 28 April, 1990:Torah scroll donation: A torah (the first five books of Moses) that survived the Holocaust will be donated to the Air Force Academy Cadet Jewish Chapel at a 3PM ceremony Sunday. The Torah will be part of a memorial for the 6 million Jews who died in the Holocaust. Guest speaker will be Harry Rapaport of Melville, NY, who found the Torah in a ritual bathhouse in Czestochowa, Poland in 1988. This is >from an Air Force archivist in Colorado Springs at the Air Force Academy whose name is Paul Martin. The Air Force asked me to write in an effort to learn more about this scroll and the person who donated it. Please contact me if you have information. Susan Boyer Sherman Oaks, CA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking: Leiser WEISZ + Salomon WEISZ, migrants to USA in 1901
#general
Eva Blanket
Hi all....in your usual and amazing collective foresights, I would like to
ask for your kind help, as I am having difficulties in finding any information (eg. Census, Drafts, Naturalization etc.) on 2 men, possibly twin brothers, who arrived in New York in 1901 >from a small town called 'Zugo'(later 'Hukliva'), Hungary. They were both born in 1873 and both are married on their arrival. The only information I can find are their Ellis Island Ship Manifests and I've included the links to these: 1. Salomon WEISZ (line 30): http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?MID=07502643520227835424& pID=102826020090& 2. Leiser WEISZ (line 1) : http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=102826020031 I've tried Anglicizing their given names (but maybe haven't found the right version eg. Solomon, Sidney, Sigmund, Lewis, Louis). Also tried using 'WEISS'. Can anyone offer any further help as to where I could go >from here? I've reached that 'brick wall' early on. Many thanks, Eva BLANKET Sydney, Australia JewishGen ID: 105793 Searching: BLANK(I)ET: Lodz, Lask,Ujazd, Brzeziny, Tomaszow - Poland) BLANKET: (London - England) DAVIDOVITS/DAVIDOVICS:(Szinever,Chust-Czechoslovakia; USA+Israel) DAVIS: (USA) HERMAN/N: (Nisni Verecky- Czechoslovakia; USA + Israel) NEIMAN/NEUMAN:(Toron, Talamas, Hukliva-Czechoslovakia + Israel) WEIS/S/Z (Talamas,Hukliva,Nisni Verecky-Czech.;USA+Israel)
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Re: Geni
#austria-czech
Evelyn Filippi
I wrote this.
"Last week I was contacted by someone asking if my cousin was a match for their cousin and it was but I said no.". How do I know they are who they say they are. loooooooooooool And even if they are why should they be allowed to take over my tree. I wonder why there are always certain people that feel that they are gate keepers and make the rules for everyone. too boring. I am not impressed with people who find what I do shocking. Evelyn Filippi New York
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Geni
#austria-czech
Evelyn Filippi
I wrote this.
"Last week I was contacted by someone asking if my cousin was a match for their cousin and it was but I said no.". How do I know they are who they say they are. loooooooooooool And even if they are why should they be allowed to take over my tree. I wonder why there are always certain people that feel that they are gate keepers and make the rules for everyone. too boring. I am not impressed with people who find what I do shocking. Evelyn Filippi New York
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Re: FTJP is not universal!
#austria-czech
tcdb@...
Marc
I use a Mac and have no problems with GEDCOM. You can contact me privately or advice. Ilan Szekely, Motza Elite, Jerusalem, ISRAEL tcdb@mac.com
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Re: FTJP is not universal!
#austria-czech
Daniel Kester
Marc Piel wrote:
"I have looked at FTJP, but it necessitates Gedcom files. Gedcom is only for PC on Windows and is not compatible with Mac! So it is not universal!!!" This is incorrect. Gedcom is a universal format for transferring genealogical data between different software programs and different computer systems. Think of it as the equivalent of the .jpeg format for photographs: a format for saving and transferring data between different programs and platforms. Any Genealogical software program should be able to open Gedcom files and save and export data as a Gedcom file. Many, if not most, Mac users have found Reunion to be their preferred genealogical program (see www.leisterpro.com ). Reunion is completely compatible with Gedcom. I have exported my data >from Reunion (on my Mac) into FTJP using Gedcom. Note that to use Gedcom files, some genealogical software program is required. Neither PCs nor Macs can use Gedcom files without a genealogical software program. Daniel Kester Buffalo, NY USA geneo@thekesters.net www.thekesters.net/Genealogy
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Re: FTJP is not universal!
#austria-czech
beuginr@...
Marc Piel wrote: "Gedcom is only for PC on Windows and is not
comptible with Mac!" This is incorrect. A google search for Mac genealogy software will lead you to many different products (including free ones). I haven't done a detailed investigation recently, but I believe the majority, if not all, have the capability of importing and exporting gedcom files. Ron Beugin Calgary, Canada
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: FTJP is not universal!
#austria-czech
tcdb@...
Marc
I use a Mac and have no problems with GEDCOM. You can contact me privately or advice. Ilan Szekely, Motza Elite, Jerusalem, ISRAEL tcdb@mac.com
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: FTJP is not universal!
#austria-czech
Daniel Kester
Marc Piel wrote:
"I have looked at FTJP, but it necessitates Gedcom files. Gedcom is only for PC on Windows and is not compatible with Mac! So it is not universal!!!" This is incorrect. Gedcom is a universal format for transferring genealogical data between different software programs and different computer systems. Think of it as the equivalent of the .jpeg format for photographs: a format for saving and transferring data between different programs and platforms. Any Genealogical software program should be able to open Gedcom files and save and export data as a Gedcom file. Many, if not most, Mac users have found Reunion to be their preferred genealogical program (see www.leisterpro.com ). Reunion is completely compatible with Gedcom. I have exported my data >from Reunion (on my Mac) into FTJP using Gedcom. Note that to use Gedcom files, some genealogical software program is required. Neither PCs nor Macs can use Gedcom files without a genealogical software program. Daniel Kester Buffalo, NY USA geneo@thekesters.net www.thekesters.net/Genealogy
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: FTJP is not universal!
#austria-czech
beuginr@...
Marc Piel wrote: "Gedcom is only for PC on Windows and is not
comptible with Mac!" This is incorrect. A google search for Mac genealogy software will lead you to many different products (including free ones). I haven't done a detailed investigation recently, but I believe the majority, if not all, have the capability of importing and exporting gedcom files. Ron Beugin Calgary, Canada
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Re: GROSZMANN and KLEIN from Miskolc
#hungary
Gary@...
Oliver:
Search for both GROSZMANN and KLEIN (Use the sounds like feature) on the all-Hungary DB on Jewishgen. We have transcribed all 7 of the Miskolc Jewish vital record microfilms; however, not all are on-line yet. They are common names so make sure to use as much info as possible when searching. Gary Deutsch Roswell, GA DEUTSCH, WEISS - Miskolc, Hungary ROTH - Nagy Ida, Hungary GREENSTEIN - Lithuania BALINER - Zinkov, Ukraine ROSENGARTEN - Warsaw, Poland PECKERAR - Faleshty, Bessarabia QUELLER, HOLLINGER - Storozhinets, Bukovina WIDOFSKY - Pukhovichi, Belarus ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: GROSZMANN and KLEIN >from Miskolc From: oliverbryk@comcast.net Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:56:12 -0700 X-Message-Number: 2 My wife's paternal ancestors are >from Miskolc. Her grandfather was Max (Miksa) GROSZMANN b. 1889, the son of Moritz (Mor) GROSZMANN b. 1862 and Hermina ROTH b. 1861 or 1862. Max's parents were Vilmos GROSZMANN b. 1830 and Eszti KLEIN b. 1839, married 1861. This information came >from the Miskolc archives. Can anyone suggest how I could find out where Vilmos and Eszti were born and married; also who their parents were? Oliver Bryk, San Francisco
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Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: GROSZMANN and KLEIN from Miskolc
#hungary
Gary@...
Oliver:
Search for both GROSZMANN and KLEIN (Use the sounds like feature) on the all-Hungary DB on Jewishgen. We have transcribed all 7 of the Miskolc Jewish vital record microfilms; however, not all are on-line yet. They are common names so make sure to use as much info as possible when searching. Gary Deutsch Roswell, GA DEUTSCH, WEISS - Miskolc, Hungary ROTH - Nagy Ida, Hungary GREENSTEIN - Lithuania BALINER - Zinkov, Ukraine ROSENGARTEN - Warsaw, Poland PECKERAR - Faleshty, Bessarabia QUELLER, HOLLINGER - Storozhinets, Bukovina WIDOFSKY - Pukhovichi, Belarus ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: GROSZMANN and KLEIN >from Miskolc From: oliverbryk@comcast.net Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:56:12 -0700 X-Message-Number: 2 My wife's paternal ancestors are >from Miskolc. Her grandfather was Max (Miksa) GROSZMANN b. 1889, the son of Moritz (Mor) GROSZMANN b. 1862 and Hermina ROTH b. 1861 or 1862. Max's parents were Vilmos GROSZMANN b. 1830 and Eszti KLEIN b. 1839, married 1861. This information came >from the Miskolc archives. Can anyone suggest how I could find out where Vilmos and Eszti were born and married; also who their parents were? Oliver Bryk, San Francisco
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Should the U.S. Census include a DNA test? Discuss.
#dna
Imagine a few decades >from now. The U.S. Census questionnaire is
completed by most people in a private, secure online form. Controversy brews over how the race question is worded, and over whether there should even be a race/ethnic question. Meanwhile, with new technological discoveries and increased participation in genetic genealogy, the cost of DNA tests plummets. The U.S. Census Bureau decides to eliminate the race/ethnic question from the form, replacing it with a DNA cheek-scraper swab sent by mailto everyone's home. This enables the Census to obtain much more accurate, reliable information concerning Americans' racial/ethnic/haplogroup origins. How realistic is such a scenario? Would you oppose or support such a development? What sort of impact would it have? What would the framers of the U.S. Constitution who required the census have thought? Martin Fischer Oak Park, Illinois, USA __ The Fischer and Levin family history web site can be seen at http://martinfischer.webs.com/
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DNA Research #DNA Should the U.S. Census include a DNA test? Discuss.
#dna
Imagine a few decades >from now. The U.S. Census questionnaire is
completed by most people in a private, secure online form. Controversy brews over how the race question is worded, and over whether there should even be a race/ethnic question. Meanwhile, with new technological discoveries and increased participation in genetic genealogy, the cost of DNA tests plummets. The U.S. Census Bureau decides to eliminate the race/ethnic question from the form, replacing it with a DNA cheek-scraper swab sent by mailto everyone's home. This enables the Census to obtain much more accurate, reliable information concerning Americans' racial/ethnic/haplogroup origins. How realistic is such a scenario? Would you oppose or support such a development? What sort of impact would it have? What would the framers of the U.S. Constitution who required the census have thought? Martin Fischer Oak Park, Illinois, USA __ The Fischer and Levin family history web site can be seen at http://martinfischer.webs.com/
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Yehuda Leib and Yissachar Ber GRAUBART
#rabbinic
David Colman <davidcolman@...>
I am interested in these 2 GRAUBART brothers >from Szrensk, Poland:
Yehuda Leib, 1860/2 - 1937 (Rabbi in Makow Masovietski, Staszow, Toronto) and Yissachar Berish, 1842-1913, the Bendiner Rav I know that their father was Binyamin...is anybody aware of Binyamin's ancestry? David Colman Toronto, Ont.
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Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Yehuda Leib and Yissachar Ber GRAUBART
#rabbinic
David Colman <davidcolman@...>
I am interested in these 2 GRAUBART brothers >from Szrensk, Poland:
Yehuda Leib, 1860/2 - 1937 (Rabbi in Makow Masovietski, Staszow, Toronto) and Yissachar Berish, 1842-1913, the Bendiner Rav I know that their father was Binyamin...is anybody aware of Binyamin's ancestry? David Colman Toronto, Ont.
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