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Third Class Accomodations in 1920-1923 #general

Bill Saslow <bigbear011@...>
 

My family emigrated >from europe between 1920 and 1923. Their
manifests mentioned third class, but it is unclear what it meant at
that time. I've read that third class (Steerage) was large holds of
hundreds of people in bunkbeds, with little food or ventilation. I
also know that there was the "Old Steerage" and the "New Steerage"
which was similar to second class, staterooms with less appointments.
Is it possible, during the time in question that they still had to
contend with the old steerage? The ships they sailed were the
Megantic, Zeeland, and Canada.

Thanks,
Bill Saslow
Middletown, RI USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Third Class Accomodations in 1920-1923 #general

Bill Saslow <bigbear011@...>
 

My family emigrated >from europe between 1920 and 1923. Their
manifests mentioned third class, but it is unclear what it meant at
that time. I've read that third class (Steerage) was large holds of
hundreds of people in bunkbeds, with little food or ventilation. I
also know that there was the "Old Steerage" and the "New Steerage"
which was similar to second class, staterooms with less appointments.
Is it possible, during the time in question that they still had to
contend with the old steerage? The ships they sailed were the
Megantic, Zeeland, and Canada.

Thanks,
Bill Saslow
Middletown, RI USA


Czectochowa Poland Torah at the Air Force Academy #general

susiestree@...
 

from the Colorado Springs Gazette-Telegraph 28 April, 1990:
Torah scroll donation: A torah (the first five books of Moses)
that survived the Holocaust will be donated to the Air Force Academy
Cadet Jewish Chapel at a 3PM ceremony Sunday. The Torah will be part
of a memorial for the 6 million Jews who died in the Holocaust.
Guest speaker will be Harry Rapaport of Melville, NY, who found the
Torah in a ritual bathhouse in Czestochowa, Poland in 1988.

This is >from an Air Force archivist in Colorado Springs at the Air
Force Academy whose name is Paul Martin.

The Air Force asked me to write in an effort to learn more about this
scroll and the person who donated it.
Please contact me if you have information.

Susan Boyer
Sherman Oaks, CA


Seeking: Leiser WEISZ + Salomon WEISZ, migrants to USA in 1901 #general

Eva Blanket
 

Hi all....in your usual and amazing collective foresights, I would like to
ask for your kind help, as I am having difficulties in finding any
information (eg. Census, Drafts, Naturalization etc.) on 2 men, possibly
twin brothers, who arrived in New York in 1901 >from a small town called
'Zugo'(later 'Hukliva'), Hungary. They were both born in 1873 and both are
married on their arrival. The only information I can find are their Ellis
Island Ship Manifests and I've included the links to these:

1. Salomon WEISZ (line 30):
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?MID=07502643520227835424&;
pID=102826020090&

2. Leiser WEISZ (line 1) :
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=102826020031

I've tried Anglicizing their given names (but maybe haven't found the right
version eg. Solomon, Sidney, Sigmund, Lewis, Louis). Also tried using
'WEISS'.

Can anyone offer any further help as to where I could go >from here?
I've reached that 'brick wall' early on.

Many thanks,
Eva BLANKET
Sydney, Australia
JewishGen ID: 105793
Searching: BLANK(I)ET: Lodz, Lask,Ujazd, Brzeziny, Tomaszow - Poland)
BLANKET: (London - England)
DAVIDOVITS/DAVIDOVICS:(Szinever,Chust-Czechoslovakia; USA+Israel)
DAVIS: (USA)
HERMAN/N: (Nisni Verecky- Czechoslovakia; USA + Israel)
NEIMAN/NEUMAN:(Toron, Talamas, Hukliva-Czechoslovakia + Israel)
WEIS/S/Z (Talamas,Hukliva,Nisni Verecky-Czech.;USA+Israel)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Czectochowa Poland Torah at the Air Force Academy #general

susiestree@...
 

from the Colorado Springs Gazette-Telegraph 28 April, 1990:
Torah scroll donation: A torah (the first five books of Moses)
that survived the Holocaust will be donated to the Air Force Academy
Cadet Jewish Chapel at a 3PM ceremony Sunday. The Torah will be part
of a memorial for the 6 million Jews who died in the Holocaust.
Guest speaker will be Harry Rapaport of Melville, NY, who found the
Torah in a ritual bathhouse in Czestochowa, Poland in 1988.

This is >from an Air Force archivist in Colorado Springs at the Air
Force Academy whose name is Paul Martin.

The Air Force asked me to write in an effort to learn more about this
scroll and the person who donated it.
Please contact me if you have information.

Susan Boyer
Sherman Oaks, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking: Leiser WEISZ + Salomon WEISZ, migrants to USA in 1901 #general

Eva Blanket
 

Hi all....in your usual and amazing collective foresights, I would like to
ask for your kind help, as I am having difficulties in finding any
information (eg. Census, Drafts, Naturalization etc.) on 2 men, possibly
twin brothers, who arrived in New York in 1901 >from a small town called
'Zugo'(later 'Hukliva'), Hungary. They were both born in 1873 and both are
married on their arrival. The only information I can find are their Ellis
Island Ship Manifests and I've included the links to these:

1. Salomon WEISZ (line 30):
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?MID=07502643520227835424&;
pID=102826020090&

2. Leiser WEISZ (line 1) :
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=102826020031

I've tried Anglicizing their given names (but maybe haven't found the right
version eg. Solomon, Sidney, Sigmund, Lewis, Louis). Also tried using
'WEISS'.

Can anyone offer any further help as to where I could go >from here?
I've reached that 'brick wall' early on.

Many thanks,
Eva BLANKET
Sydney, Australia
JewishGen ID: 105793
Searching: BLANK(I)ET: Lodz, Lask,Ujazd, Brzeziny, Tomaszow - Poland)
BLANKET: (London - England)
DAVIDOVITS/DAVIDOVICS:(Szinever,Chust-Czechoslovakia; USA+Israel)
DAVIS: (USA)
HERMAN/N: (Nisni Verecky- Czechoslovakia; USA + Israel)
NEIMAN/NEUMAN:(Toron, Talamas, Hukliva-Czechoslovakia + Israel)
WEIS/S/Z (Talamas,Hukliva,Nisni Verecky-Czech.;USA+Israel)


Re: Geni #austria-czech

Evelyn Filippi
 

I wrote this.

"Last week I was contacted by someone asking if my cousin was a match
for their cousin and it was but I said no.".

How do I know they are who they say they are. loooooooooooool
And even if they are why should they be allowed to take over my
tree.


I wonder why there are always certain people
that feel that they are gate keepers
and make the rules for everyone.
too boring.

I am not impressed with people who find what I do shocking.

Evelyn Filippi
New York


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Geni #austria-czech

Evelyn Filippi
 

I wrote this.

"Last week I was contacted by someone asking if my cousin was a match
for their cousin and it was but I said no.".

How do I know they are who they say they are. loooooooooooool
And even if they are why should they be allowed to take over my
tree.


I wonder why there are always certain people
that feel that they are gate keepers
and make the rules for everyone.
too boring.

I am not impressed with people who find what I do shocking.

Evelyn Filippi
New York


Re: FTJP is not universal! #austria-czech

tcdb@...
 

Marc
I use a Mac and have no problems with GEDCOM.
You can contact me privately or advice.

Ilan Szekely, Motza Elite, Jerusalem, ISRAEL
tcdb@mac.com


Re: FTJP is not universal! #austria-czech

Daniel Kester
 

Marc Piel wrote:
"I have looked at FTJP, but it necessitates Gedcom files. Gedcom is only
for PC on Windows and is not compatible with Mac! So it is not
universal!!!"

This is incorrect. Gedcom is a universal format for transferring
genealogical data between different software programs and different
computer systems. Think of it as the equivalent of the .jpeg format for
photographs: a format for saving and transferring data between different
programs and platforms.

Any Genealogical software program should be able to open Gedcom files
and save and export data as a Gedcom file. Many, if not most, Mac users
have found Reunion to be their preferred genealogical program (see
www.leisterpro.com ). Reunion is completely compatible with Gedcom. I
have exported my data >from Reunion (on my Mac) into FTJP using Gedcom.

Note that to use Gedcom files, some genealogical software program is
required. Neither PCs nor Macs can use Gedcom files without a
genealogical software program.

Daniel Kester
Buffalo, NY USA
geneo@thekesters.net
www.thekesters.net/Genealogy


Re: FTJP is not universal! #austria-czech

beuginr@...
 

Marc Piel wrote: "Gedcom is only for PC on Windows and is not
comptible with Mac!"

This is incorrect. A google search for Mac genealogy software will
lead you to many different products (including free ones). I haven't
done a detailed investigation recently, but I believe the majority,
if not all, have the capability of importing and exporting gedcom files.

Ron Beugin
Calgary, Canada


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: FTJP is not universal! #austria-czech

tcdb@...
 

Marc
I use a Mac and have no problems with GEDCOM.
You can contact me privately or advice.

Ilan Szekely, Motza Elite, Jerusalem, ISRAEL
tcdb@mac.com


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: FTJP is not universal! #austria-czech

Daniel Kester
 

Marc Piel wrote:
"I have looked at FTJP, but it necessitates Gedcom files. Gedcom is only
for PC on Windows and is not compatible with Mac! So it is not
universal!!!"

This is incorrect. Gedcom is a universal format for transferring
genealogical data between different software programs and different
computer systems. Think of it as the equivalent of the .jpeg format for
photographs: a format for saving and transferring data between different
programs and platforms.

Any Genealogical software program should be able to open Gedcom files
and save and export data as a Gedcom file. Many, if not most, Mac users
have found Reunion to be their preferred genealogical program (see
www.leisterpro.com ). Reunion is completely compatible with Gedcom. I
have exported my data >from Reunion (on my Mac) into FTJP using Gedcom.

Note that to use Gedcom files, some genealogical software program is
required. Neither PCs nor Macs can use Gedcom files without a
genealogical software program.

Daniel Kester
Buffalo, NY USA
geneo@thekesters.net
www.thekesters.net/Genealogy


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: FTJP is not universal! #austria-czech

beuginr@...
 

Marc Piel wrote: "Gedcom is only for PC on Windows and is not
comptible with Mac!"

This is incorrect. A google search for Mac genealogy software will
lead you to many different products (including free ones). I haven't
done a detailed investigation recently, but I believe the majority,
if not all, have the capability of importing and exporting gedcom files.

Ron Beugin
Calgary, Canada


Re: GROSZMANN and KLEIN from Miskolc #hungary

Gary@...
 

Oliver:

Search for both GROSZMANN and KLEIN (Use the sounds like feature) on the
all-Hungary DB on Jewishgen. We have transcribed all 7 of the Miskolc Jewish
vital record microfilms; however, not all are on-line yet.

They are common names so make sure to use as much info as possible when
searching.

Gary Deutsch
Roswell, GA

DEUTSCH, WEISS - Miskolc, Hungary
ROTH - Nagy Ida, Hungary
GREENSTEIN - Lithuania
BALINER - Zinkov, Ukraine
ROSENGARTEN - Warsaw, Poland
PECKERAR - Faleshty, Bessarabia
QUELLER, HOLLINGER - Storozhinets, Bukovina
WIDOFSKY - Pukhovichi, Belarus


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Subject: GROSZMANN and KLEIN >from Miskolc
From: oliverbryk@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:56:12 -0700
X-Message-Number: 2

My wife's paternal ancestors are >from Miskolc. Her grandfather was Max
(Miksa) GROSZMANN b. 1889, the son of Moritz (Mor) GROSZMANN b. 1862 and
Hermina ROTH b. 1861 or 1862. Max's parents were Vilmos GROSZMANN b. 1830
and Eszti KLEIN b. 1839, married 1861. This information came >from the
Miskolc archives.

Can anyone suggest how I could find out where Vilmos and Eszti were born and
married; also who their parents were?

Oliver Bryk, San Francisco


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: GROSZMANN and KLEIN from Miskolc #hungary

Gary@...
 

Oliver:

Search for both GROSZMANN and KLEIN (Use the sounds like feature) on the
all-Hungary DB on Jewishgen. We have transcribed all 7 of the Miskolc Jewish
vital record microfilms; however, not all are on-line yet.

They are common names so make sure to use as much info as possible when
searching.

Gary Deutsch
Roswell, GA

DEUTSCH, WEISS - Miskolc, Hungary
ROTH - Nagy Ida, Hungary
GREENSTEIN - Lithuania
BALINER - Zinkov, Ukraine
ROSENGARTEN - Warsaw, Poland
PECKERAR - Faleshty, Bessarabia
QUELLER, HOLLINGER - Storozhinets, Bukovina
WIDOFSKY - Pukhovichi, Belarus


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Subject: GROSZMANN and KLEIN >from Miskolc
From: oliverbryk@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:56:12 -0700
X-Message-Number: 2

My wife's paternal ancestors are >from Miskolc. Her grandfather was Max
(Miksa) GROSZMANN b. 1889, the son of Moritz (Mor) GROSZMANN b. 1862 and
Hermina ROTH b. 1861 or 1862. Max's parents were Vilmos GROSZMANN b. 1830
and Eszti KLEIN b. 1839, married 1861. This information came >from the
Miskolc archives.

Can anyone suggest how I could find out where Vilmos and Eszti were born and
married; also who their parents were?

Oliver Bryk, San Francisco


Should the U.S. Census include a DNA test? Discuss. #dna

Martin Fischer
 

Imagine a few decades >from now. The U.S. Census questionnaire is
completed by most people in a private, secure online form. Controversy
brews over how the race question is worded, and over whether there
should even be a race/ethnic question. Meanwhile, with new technological
discoveries and increased participation in genetic genealogy, the cost
of DNA tests plummets.

The U.S. Census Bureau decides to eliminate the race/ethnic question
from the form, replacing it with a DNA cheek-scraper swab sent by mail
to everyone's home. This enables the Census to obtain much more
accurate, reliable information concerning Americans'
racial/ethnic/haplogroup origins.

How realistic is such a scenario? Would you oppose or support such a
development? What sort of impact would it have? What would the framers
of the U.S. Constitution who required the census have thought?

Martin Fischer
Oak Park, Illinois, USA
__
The Fischer and Levin family history web site can be seen at
http://martinfischer.webs.com/


DNA Research #DNA Should the U.S. Census include a DNA test? Discuss. #dna

Martin Fischer
 

Imagine a few decades >from now. The U.S. Census questionnaire is
completed by most people in a private, secure online form. Controversy
brews over how the race question is worded, and over whether there
should even be a race/ethnic question. Meanwhile, with new technological
discoveries and increased participation in genetic genealogy, the cost
of DNA tests plummets.

The U.S. Census Bureau decides to eliminate the race/ethnic question
from the form, replacing it with a DNA cheek-scraper swab sent by mail
to everyone's home. This enables the Census to obtain much more
accurate, reliable information concerning Americans'
racial/ethnic/haplogroup origins.

How realistic is such a scenario? Would you oppose or support such a
development? What sort of impact would it have? What would the framers
of the U.S. Constitution who required the census have thought?

Martin Fischer
Oak Park, Illinois, USA
__
The Fischer and Levin family history web site can be seen at
http://martinfischer.webs.com/


Yehuda Leib and Yissachar Ber GRAUBART #rabbinic

David Colman <davidcolman@...>
 

I am interested in these 2 GRAUBART brothers >from Szrensk, Poland:

Yehuda Leib, 1860/2 - 1937 (Rabbi in Makow Masovietski, Staszow, Toronto)
and Yissachar Berish, 1842-1913, the Bendiner Rav

I know that their father was Binyamin...is anybody aware of Binyamin's
ancestry?

David Colman
Toronto, Ont.


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Yehuda Leib and Yissachar Ber GRAUBART #rabbinic

David Colman <davidcolman@...>
 

I am interested in these 2 GRAUBART brothers >from Szrensk, Poland:

Yehuda Leib, 1860/2 - 1937 (Rabbi in Makow Masovietski, Staszow, Toronto)
and Yissachar Berish, 1842-1913, the Bendiner Rav

I know that their father was Binyamin...is anybody aware of Binyamin's
ancestry?

David Colman
Toronto, Ont.