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Searching for Contact Info in Israel #hungary

ljkraus@...
 

To those who are looking for persons in Israel, the English version for
finding phone numbers and addresses is
http://english.b144.co.il/Default.aspx
Good hunting and Happy Pessach
Leah Kraus
Haifa, Israel


1. question re. Andor Friem
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Subject: question re. Andor Friem
From: evdarvas@umich.edu
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:35:36 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1

hello!
does anyone know Andor Friem, whose last known address
was Petach-Tikva, <snip>, in Israel?
thanks much for any help.
Eva Darvas

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Hungary SIG #Hungary Searching for Contact Info in Israel #hungary

ljkraus@...
 

To those who are looking for persons in Israel, the English version for
finding phone numbers and addresses is
http://english.b144.co.il/Default.aspx
Good hunting and Happy Pessach
Leah Kraus
Haifa, Israel


1. question re. Andor Friem
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Subject: question re. Andor Friem
From: evdarvas@umich.edu
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:35:36 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1

hello!
does anyone know Andor Friem, whose last known address
was Petach-Tikva, <snip>, in Israel?
thanks much for any help.
Eva Darvas

Moderator: Please respond off-list if you can help.
Per JewishGen policies, street address is not shown.


Seeking Information on:Chevra Tillem Kesher Yisrael, Montefiore Cemetery #belarus

AllanDolgow@...
 

from interment cards of my great grandparents it states the Plot owner
is Chevra Tillem Kesher Yisrael, at the Montefiore Cemetery, 12183
Springfield Boulevard, Queens, New York.

This I believe was the name of the burial society at this synagogue that
no longer exists.

Does anyone have additional information?

Please send it to me directly.

Allan Dolgow
West Sacramento, CA
MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen maintains an extensive database of burial records
at: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/


Belarus SIG #Belarus Seeking Information on:Chevra Tillem Kesher Yisrael, Montefiore Cemetery #belarus

AllanDolgow@...
 

from interment cards of my great grandparents it states the Plot owner
is Chevra Tillem Kesher Yisrael, at the Montefiore Cemetery, 12183
Springfield Boulevard, Queens, New York.

This I believe was the name of the burial society at this synagogue that
no longer exists.

Does anyone have additional information?

Please send it to me directly.

Allan Dolgow
West Sacramento, CA
MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen maintains an extensive database of burial records
at: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/


Searching: KAHANA-SHAPIRO, from Stolbsty to Lubny,Ukraine #belarus

Gayle Schlissel Riley
 

I know SHAPIRO is one the most common Jewish last names But maybe there is a
Shapiro out there who started out in Stolbsty, Belarus or Timikovichi, Belarus
and then went to Lubny, Ukraine. I am told we are KAHANA-SHAPIRO.
Benjamin Isaac wife Rifka Moskovitz had the following children Morris, Ahron,
Jacob, Nathan, Yitchuk and Yomtov Gutman..Does any of this ring a bell?

Gayle Schlissel Riley

San Gabriel, CA
Respond privately


Belarus SIG #Belarus Searching: KAHANA-SHAPIRO, from Stolbsty to Lubny,Ukraine #belarus

Gayle Schlissel Riley
 

I know SHAPIRO is one the most common Jewish last names But maybe there is a
Shapiro out there who started out in Stolbsty, Belarus or Timikovichi, Belarus
and then went to Lubny, Ukraine. I am told we are KAHANA-SHAPIRO.
Benjamin Isaac wife Rifka Moskovitz had the following children Morris, Ahron,
Jacob, Nathan, Yitchuk and Yomtov Gutman..Does any of this ring a bell?

Gayle Schlissel Riley

San Gabriel, CA
Respond privately


Other Hungarian Census update #general

Eric M. Bloch
 

Great news! We're pleased to announce the addition of 6,800 records
to the Hungarian [Jewish] Census Records 1770-1850 database.
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/CensusOther.htm >.
This brings our total to 56,000 records!

The newly added data covers the following Hungarian counties and years:

Borsod 1771
Komarom 1771
Nograd 1774, 1775
Nyitra 1770, 1771
Pest-Pilis-Solt 1857 Family List for Waitzen (Vacz)
Pozsony post-1850 Family Lists >from Rabbinical Records
Saros 1771
Sopron 1771, 1772, 1774
Szatmar 1771
Vas 1771, 1774
Zemplen 1774

Other counties are currently being transcribed for the 1770-1775 period.

Unfortunately, the majority of names in the Jewish Censuses of 1770-1775
use patronymics in place of surnames. Thus, the information may be of
limited value unless you know the families you are tracing lived in a
certain town in the 18th century. One of the more interesting bits of
data in the records is whether the individual was born in the Kingdom of
Hungary, or not; and if not, how long they had resided in Hungary.

In a few cases, we have included the occupation, especially for rabbis,
cantors, and shochets. Occupation and other information about
individuals was included in the census but this was not transcribed
since it was in Latin and would have added considerable complication to
our transcription efforts. If you are successful in finding an
ancestor, we encourage you to obtain the microfilm and view the original
record yourself.

Thanks again to our transcription team for their wonderful work.

Happy hunting!

Eric M. Bloch, Coordinator
Other Hungarian Census project


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Other Hungarian Census update #general

Eric M. Bloch
 

Great news! We're pleased to announce the addition of 6,800 records
to the Hungarian [Jewish] Census Records 1770-1850 database.
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/CensusOther.htm >.
This brings our total to 56,000 records!

The newly added data covers the following Hungarian counties and years:

Borsod 1771
Komarom 1771
Nograd 1774, 1775
Nyitra 1770, 1771
Pest-Pilis-Solt 1857 Family List for Waitzen (Vacz)
Pozsony post-1850 Family Lists >from Rabbinical Records
Saros 1771
Sopron 1771, 1772, 1774
Szatmar 1771
Vas 1771, 1774
Zemplen 1774

Other counties are currently being transcribed for the 1770-1775 period.

Unfortunately, the majority of names in the Jewish Censuses of 1770-1775
use patronymics in place of surnames. Thus, the information may be of
limited value unless you know the families you are tracing lived in a
certain town in the 18th century. One of the more interesting bits of
data in the records is whether the individual was born in the Kingdom of
Hungary, or not; and if not, how long they had resided in Hungary.

In a few cases, we have included the occupation, especially for rabbis,
cantors, and shochets. Occupation and other information about
individuals was included in the census but this was not transcribed
since it was in Latin and would have added considerable complication to
our transcription efforts. If you are successful in finding an
ancestor, we encourage you to obtain the microfilm and view the original
record yourself.

Thanks again to our transcription team for their wonderful work.

Happy hunting!

Eric M. Bloch, Coordinator
Other Hungarian Census project


Przedborz - Horses & Beer? #general

Isabel Cymerman
 

Dear Genners,
Some time ago I read that my ancestral town of Przedborz, Poland was known
for its horse fair as well as its beer. Cannot remember where I read
this. Can anyone confirm or refute?

Many thanks.

Isabel Cymerman
Roxbury, CT


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Przedborz - Horses & Beer? #general

Isabel Cymerman
 

Dear Genners,
Some time ago I read that my ancestral town of Przedborz, Poland was known
for its horse fair as well as its beer. Cannot remember where I read
this. Can anyone confirm or refute?

Many thanks.

Isabel Cymerman
Roxbury, CT


Thanks #poland

DR. Yoram Rossler <yrossler@...>
 

A few days ago I posted a request for the translation of a text >from Polish
to English. The text was a message >from the APK Nowy Sacz department. I was
pleasently surprised to receive several responses with the requested
translation and also tips that assisted me in furthering my research of the
ROSSLER family.

So, to all of you, apart >from the personal thanks I sent to their e-mails,
thank you again for the cooperation. It warms my heart to find real
friendship within the group.

Dr. Yoram Rossler


JRI Poland #Poland Thanks #poland

DR. Yoram Rossler <yrossler@...>
 

A few days ago I posted a request for the translation of a text >from Polish
to English. The text was a message >from the APK Nowy Sacz department. I was
pleasently surprised to receive several responses with the requested
translation and also tips that assisted me in furthering my research of the
ROSSLER family.

So, to all of you, apart >from the personal thanks I sent to their e-mails,
thank you again for the cooperation. It warms my heart to find real
friendship within the group.

Dr. Yoram Rossler


jonora@...
 

Although I am not on GENI , it seems to me that the problems associated with
this could be overcome in the following way. Keep your own tree on your
computer. Put your tree on Geni, and then use Geni only to see where others
are taking it and take >from it those things that interest you and put them
into your personal tree, ignoring where it goes, unless you have something
else to add that fits with the new directions it is going. That way you
would "have your cake and eat it". You would keep control of your tree but
get the new stuff if it shows up
Nora HELLER FREUND.
Also searching Bondy, Eckstein, Kohns >from Neustadl and Drahomischl Bohemia.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech geni #austria-czech

jonora@...
 

Although I am not on GENI , it seems to me that the problems associated with
this could be overcome in the following way. Keep your own tree on your
computer. Put your tree on Geni, and then use Geni only to see where others
are taking it and take >from it those things that interest you and put them
into your personal tree, ignoring where it goes, unless you have something
else to add that fits with the new directions it is going. That way you
would "have your cake and eat it". You would keep control of your tree but
get the new stuff if it shows up
Nora HELLER FREUND.
Also searching Bondy, Eckstein, Kohns >from Neustadl and Drahomischl Bohemia.


Re: Geni #austria-czech

george@...
 

Geni shows the power of collaboration. True, Geni is not as good a product
as I think it ought to be, it is not standards or wiki-based and is based on
a for-profit model, but ....
because of geni, I am connected with many people in my family whom
i never knew before and whom i would never have found on my own. I have
only started entering my family and I have dozens of people collaborating
with me.

True, I have no control over my tree, but it is not my tree to control. It is a
very extended family tree and i can see nothing better than if it was one tree
that included everyone. Wikipedia has shown how much more information
you can get by collaboration and perhaps surprisingly, how much more
accurate information is when you have collaboration.

Geni has its problems and i mentioned some of them above, but it is a
wonderful tool. Think of the extra information that we get by working
together. JewishGen has provided some of that and provides much more
"control" in the way it does sets up the family tree of the Jewish people.
Frankly, I prefer having more collaboration.

best,
george
Montreal, Quebec, Canada

George Farkas


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Geni #austria-czech

george@...
 

Geni shows the power of collaboration. True, Geni is not as good a product
as I think it ought to be, it is not standards or wiki-based and is based on
a for-profit model, but ....
because of geni, I am connected with many people in my family whom
i never knew before and whom i would never have found on my own. I have
only started entering my family and I have dozens of people collaborating
with me.

True, I have no control over my tree, but it is not my tree to control. It is a
very extended family tree and i can see nothing better than if it was one tree
that included everyone. Wikipedia has shown how much more information
you can get by collaboration and perhaps surprisingly, how much more
accurate information is when you have collaboration.

Geni has its problems and i mentioned some of them above, but it is a
wonderful tool. Think of the extra information that we get by working
together. JewishGen has provided some of that and provides much more
"control" in the way it does sets up the family tree of the Jewish people.
Frankly, I prefer having more collaboration.

best,
george
Montreal, Quebec, Canada

George Farkas


Joining Geni #austria-czech

feising@...
 

With all due respect to Randy Schoenberg's posting, there is something
inherently wrong with Geni. Philosophically speaking, if one is interested
in tracing one's roots back to the 10th cousin, twice removed, and not care
about who controls the inputs that you posted on Geni, and how they can be
distorted after merging, then Geni is your place. However, my experience
with Geni left me greatly disappointed.

For one, before I joined Geni, I was not told that I should not join if I
wanted to post "my" tree instead of being part of "our" tree. Also, I was
not told that when one merges a posting, one usually loses "management"
(control) of the merged posting. Geni usually assigns management to the one
who requests the merge, even though your entry may be may be for your
parents or first cousin, and the requester's relationship to that person is
far, far removed. That is exactly what happened to me. My posting of my
first cousin, a 12 year old Holocaust victim, whom I grew up with in
Vienna, of whom I have pictures, statistics and have memorialized in
articles and a documentary, and for whom I say Kaddish, is no longer under
my control simply because of a merger request by someone far removed.

Another problem is when there are two entries in Geni for the same person ,
one by you, and one by someone else who is hardly related. The one entered
by you is correct because you grew up with this person, knew his name, have
documents about birth, death, etc.; the other person's entry has much
information incorrect and refuses change it. That "someone else" has
repeatedly asked me to merge and I steadfastly refuse for the same reasons
that were stated in B.Newman's and R.Bower's postings.

Before joining Geni, go to their website "geni.com", go to "Forum", select
the category "Merging!" and then decide if Geni is right for you.

Frank Eisinger
Saint James, NY


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Joining Geni #austria-czech

feising@...
 

With all due respect to Randy Schoenberg's posting, there is something
inherently wrong with Geni. Philosophically speaking, if one is interested
in tracing one's roots back to the 10th cousin, twice removed, and not care
about who controls the inputs that you posted on Geni, and how they can be
distorted after merging, then Geni is your place. However, my experience
with Geni left me greatly disappointed.

For one, before I joined Geni, I was not told that I should not join if I
wanted to post "my" tree instead of being part of "our" tree. Also, I was
not told that when one merges a posting, one usually loses "management"
(control) of the merged posting. Geni usually assigns management to the one
who requests the merge, even though your entry may be may be for your
parents or first cousin, and the requester's relationship to that person is
far, far removed. That is exactly what happened to me. My posting of my
first cousin, a 12 year old Holocaust victim, whom I grew up with in
Vienna, of whom I have pictures, statistics and have memorialized in
articles and a documentary, and for whom I say Kaddish, is no longer under
my control simply because of a merger request by someone far removed.

Another problem is when there are two entries in Geni for the same person ,
one by you, and one by someone else who is hardly related. The one entered
by you is correct because you grew up with this person, knew his name, have
documents about birth, death, etc.; the other person's entry has much
information incorrect and refuses change it. That "someone else" has
repeatedly asked me to merge and I steadfastly refuse for the same reasons
that were stated in B.Newman's and R.Bower's postings.

Before joining Geni, go to their website "geni.com", go to "Forum", select
the category "Merging!" and then decide if Geni is right for you.

Frank Eisinger
Saint James, NY


Ulashkivtsi #galicia

Anita Frankel
 

Dear Fellow Galitzianers and Ulashkivtsi researchers:

There is good news for those of us interested in Ulashkivtsi!

The Gesher Galicia website now lists our town as having been
inventoried by our researcher in L'viv, Brian Lenius. There are
three sets of 19th century land records and a large scale map.

To have these documents copied and forwarded we need to do
fundraising to cover the cost of photographing and copying these
records this spring. If you are interested in contributing to our
town's project, please contact me privately for more details.

Anita Frankel
Frankel2@charter.net


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Ulashkivtsi #galicia

Anita Frankel
 

Dear Fellow Galitzianers and Ulashkivtsi researchers:

There is good news for those of us interested in Ulashkivtsi!

The Gesher Galicia website now lists our town as having been
inventoried by our researcher in L'viv, Brian Lenius. There are
three sets of 19th century land records and a large scale map.

To have these documents copied and forwarded we need to do
fundraising to cover the cost of photographing and copying these
records this spring. If you are interested in contributing to our
town's project, please contact me privately for more details.

Anita Frankel
Frankel2@charter.net