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Practical information about Weissensee cemetery Berlin #germany

Shay Meyer <smeyer@...>
 

Hi

I have just returned >from a trip to Berlin with my wife. We visited
the grave of my wife's grandmother at Weissensee cemetery. I want to
share what I learned in the hope that this will save others time and trouble.

Before your visit, request information on the location of the grave >from the
cemetery office.
We received a comprehensive reply in a little more than two weeks.
They provide the block number where the grave is situated, the row number
and the grave number.
The block number consists of a letter and a Roman numeral. In German, the
letter is called Feld (field) and the numeral is called Abteilung (division).
The row number is called Reihe.

Note that the blocks are not laid out in sequence, so the cemetery office
provides a map that shows where to find the block that interests you. There
are signs with the letter and Roman numeral at the corner of each block.
The cemetery office also provides a map that shows the graves within the
block, by number.

Finding the grave within the block is not so easy. Only row 5 has a sign.
You need to find the row that interests you by counting >from there.
The grave numbers do not follow a sequence within the row, or within the
block so you will need the map of grave numbers.

The head-stone at the grave was placed by the family. You might find a
large stone with clear markings on it.
Some, but not all, have the grave number on them. In our case there was
only a very small stone and it was completely covered with ivy.

We needed the map to help us find it. We found a nearby headstone with a
number, then located the number on the map. Then we counted graves from
the one we had identified. Finally, the stone itself was covered with moss.
We could read the inscription on the stone only after we had scraped off the moss.

One more item: Berlin has an excellent network of public transportation.
The closest ride to Weissensee is the M4 or the M13 tram.
Get off in Berliner Allee at the stop marked Albertiner street.
Walk half a block to Herbert-Baum street then three blocks along Hebert Baum
to the entrance of the cemetery.

Hope that someone finds this useful.

Shay Meyer, Rehovot, Israel. smeyer@...

German SIG #Germany Practical information about Weissensee cemetery Berlin #germany

Shay Meyer <smeyer@...>
 

Hi

I have just returned >from a trip to Berlin with my wife. We visited
the grave of my wife's grandmother at Weissensee cemetery. I want to
share what I learned in the hope that this will save others time and trouble.

Before your visit, request information on the location of the grave >from the
cemetery office.
We received a comprehensive reply in a little more than two weeks.
They provide the block number where the grave is situated, the row number
and the grave number.
The block number consists of a letter and a Roman numeral. In German, the
letter is called Feld (field) and the numeral is called Abteilung (division).
The row number is called Reihe.

Note that the blocks are not laid out in sequence, so the cemetery office
provides a map that shows where to find the block that interests you. There
are signs with the letter and Roman numeral at the corner of each block.
The cemetery office also provides a map that shows the graves within the
block, by number.

Finding the grave within the block is not so easy. Only row 5 has a sign.
You need to find the row that interests you by counting >from there.
The grave numbers do not follow a sequence within the row, or within the
block so you will need the map of grave numbers.

The head-stone at the grave was placed by the family. You might find a
large stone with clear markings on it.
Some, but not all, have the grave number on them. In our case there was
only a very small stone and it was completely covered with ivy.

We needed the map to help us find it. We found a nearby headstone with a
number, then located the number on the map. Then we counted graves from
the one we had identified. Finally, the stone itself was covered with moss.
We could read the inscription on the stone only after we had scraped off the moss.

One more item: Berlin has an excellent network of public transportation.
The closest ride to Weissensee is the M4 or the M13 tram.
Get off in Berliner Allee at the stop marked Albertiner street.
Walk half a block to Herbert-Baum street then three blocks along Hebert Baum
to the entrance of the cemetery.

Hope that someone finds this useful.

Shay Meyer, Rehovot, Israel. smeyer@...

Re: HMT Dunera - Internee relatives and descendants #germany

P. S. Wyant
 

Shalom, Gunther,
the 70th anniversary is taking place later this year. >from 3 to 5 September,
there will be remembrance events at Hay, and on the 7th, events at Sydney
harbor.

My wife Carole and I will be there for those events as well as other things
being planned in memory of my father who died late last year, a "Dunera Boy".

If anyone would like more information on the 70th anniversary (or, indeed,
on the "Dunera incident" in general), pls contact me off-list at
wyants@...

Peter S. Wyant Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

German SIG #Germany Re: HMT Dunera - Internee relatives and descendants #germany

P. S. Wyant
 

Shalom, Gunther,
the 70th anniversary is taking place later this year. >from 3 to 5 September,
there will be remembrance events at Hay, and on the 7th, events at Sydney
harbor.

My wife Carole and I will be there for those events as well as other things
being planned in memory of my father who died late last year, a "Dunera Boy".

If anyone would like more information on the 70th anniversary (or, indeed,
on the "Dunera incident" in general), pls contact me off-list at
wyants@...

Peter S. Wyant Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

Problems with Spam! #general

Giorgetti Operetta Spettacoli <giorgetti@...>
 

Dear Genners - Internet can be a problem - even if my computer tells me the
email could possibly be "Spam", I'm allowed to opened the messages. I did
receive all of Barbara Zimmer's (wonderful) messages, not knowing that she
was receiving notices that her mails had been rejected!
To save a lot of problems I have changed my email address, hoping that this
one will work better!
I must thank all the Genners who let me know that Barbara was having
problems, and of course another great thank you for all the information
Barbara has sent me!
A wonderful day to you all,
Jean Bennett Giorgetti

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Problems with Spam! #general

Giorgetti Operetta Spettacoli <giorgetti@...>
 

Dear Genners - Internet can be a problem - even if my computer tells me the
email could possibly be "Spam", I'm allowed to opened the messages. I did
receive all of Barbara Zimmer's (wonderful) messages, not knowing that she
was receiving notices that her mails had been rejected!
To save a lot of problems I have changed my email address, hoping that this
one will work better!
I must thank all the Genners who let me know that Barbara was having
problems, and of course another great thank you for all the information
Barbara has sent me!
A wonderful day to you all,
Jean Bennett Giorgetti

Re: SHUCHMAN Obits - help requested #general

Diane Jacobs
 

Mt. Lebanon Cemetery database is online and easy to search by surname
And burial society.

You will also find Mt. Zion, Mt. Hebron, Mt. Ararat & Mt. Carmel online.

Diane Jacobs
Somerset, NJ

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: SHUCHMAN Obits - help requested #general

Diane Jacobs
 

Mt. Lebanon Cemetery database is online and easy to search by surname
And burial society.

You will also find Mt. Zion, Mt. Hebron, Mt. Ararat & Mt. Carmel online.

Diane Jacobs
Somerset, NJ

Re: Odd misspellings #general

sharon yampell
 

Just to add, in the 1910 US Census in Milwaukee, my J/Yampolsky great
grandparents, along with my grandfather with all but younger twin brother
and sister, who were born the following year, had their last name written
out as Jambolzki

Sharon Yampell

Alexandrowitz..(Volovitch) Wolovitz/Wolovitz--Borzna Chernigov
Distelfeld/Distenfeld..Lessing/Lessig--Dorna Vatra, Campulung
Jampolsky--Odessa
Dorolotzsky--Kiev
Buchalter/Horwitz--Kinev

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Odd misspellings #general

sharon yampell
 

Just to add, in the 1910 US Census in Milwaukee, my J/Yampolsky great
grandparents, along with my grandfather with all but younger twin brother
and sister, who were born the following year, had their last name written
out as Jambolzki

Sharon Yampell

Alexandrowitz..(Volovitch) Wolovitz/Wolovitz--Borzna Chernigov
Distelfeld/Distenfeld..Lessing/Lessig--Dorna Vatra, Campulung
Jampolsky--Odessa
Dorolotzsky--Kiev
Buchalter/Horwitz--Kinev

Meldekarten & Old Telephone Directories of Bratislava #hungary

yvstern@...
 

I'm searching for my relatives KOPF who moved to Bratislava in 1905.
(see Family data below ).

The Archives of the Capital of the Slovak Republic Bratislava didn't =
find
data about the KOPF family in the jewish BMD records or in
other archival documents.

Enquiries in Vienna and Budapest had no result, either.

Since there are no BMD records of the KOPF Family in these towns,
the best source would be the Meldekarten at the Bratislava
Einwohnermeldeamt.

Can anybody tell me whether the practice of Meldekarten was
required in Slovakia before 1918, and, if yes, where they are kept.

Another excelent source are the old telephone books, but again I
don't know whether the directories for Bratislava for 1900-1920 still
exist.

Any suggestions where else I should/could look for the KOPF data?

*KOPF Family Data:
David KOPF ( born 1865, in Bielitz) was married to my gr-aunt
Elfriede KOPF, n=E9e STERN (born 1875, in Elberfeld, Germany) .

They had 3 children :
Hans Dagobert KOPF, born 4.Jun 1896 in Braunschweig,
Carl Stephan KOPF, born 28.March 1898 in Braunschweig
Ilse KOPF, born 7.April 1901 in Koenigsberg (Kaliningrad).

Yvonne Stern
Rio de Janeiro - Brasil

Hungary SIG #Hungary Meldekarten & Old Telephone Directories of Bratislava #hungary

yvstern@...
 

I'm searching for my relatives KOPF who moved to Bratislava in 1905.
(see Family data below ).

The Archives of the Capital of the Slovak Republic Bratislava didn't =
find
data about the KOPF family in the jewish BMD records or in
other archival documents.

Enquiries in Vienna and Budapest had no result, either.

Since there are no BMD records of the KOPF Family in these towns,
the best source would be the Meldekarten at the Bratislava
Einwohnermeldeamt.

Can anybody tell me whether the practice of Meldekarten was
required in Slovakia before 1918, and, if yes, where they are kept.

Another excelent source are the old telephone books, but again I
don't know whether the directories for Bratislava for 1900-1920 still
exist.

Any suggestions where else I should/could look for the KOPF data?

*KOPF Family Data:
David KOPF ( born 1865, in Bielitz) was married to my gr-aunt
Elfriede KOPF, n=E9e STERN (born 1875, in Elberfeld, Germany) .

They had 3 children :
Hans Dagobert KOPF, born 4.Jun 1896 in Braunschweig,
Carl Stephan KOPF, born 28.March 1898 in Braunschweig
Ilse KOPF, born 7.April 1901 in Koenigsberg (Kaliningrad).

Yvonne Stern
Rio de Janeiro - Brasil

Looking for Rokiskis SIG members #general

lcantor.org <lincan@...>
 

Please contact me at lincan@... if you have up-to-date email contact
for

Helene Feinsilber, Ohio
or
Adam Gordon, formerly of New York, now in UK

They are Rokiskis SIG members and emails to them are bouncing.

Private replies please.

Linda Cantor

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for Rokiskis SIG members #general

lcantor.org <lincan@...>
 

Please contact me at lincan@... if you have up-to-date email contact
for

Helene Feinsilber, Ohio
or
Adam Gordon, formerly of New York, now in UK

They are Rokiskis SIG members and emails to them are bouncing.

Private replies please.

Linda Cantor

SHUCHMAN Obits - help requested #general

Marie Spearman
 

Harry SHUCHMAN died 5 January 1948 and wife Clara Lemovitz Shuchman died 17
October 1979. I've found their burial at Mount Lebanon Cemetery online
(www.mountlebanoncemetery.com) but have not been successful in finding
obituaries.

I received Harry's death certificate >from the Borough of Brooklyn this week.
He was 57, a tinsmith, born in Russia, father David, and mother Genee/Genu
Shapiro. Informant was a daughter, Ruth Kapperman?? Or K???erman - looks
like 2 p's but no discernable vowel between the K and first p.

No birth date on Harry's death certificate, but on his WWII draft
registration card, birth date is 15 May 1889; place Kiev, Russia. On most
records found thus far his and Clara's residence is consistently *** 5th
Avenue, Brooklyn.

Clara's birth on her Petition for Naturalization is 30 November 1892, Kiev,
Russia. She stated she was m. 30 July 1916 at Brooklyn, but marriage
certificate just received is dated 30 July 1917. On her Petition two
daughters are listed: Ethel, b. 6 January 1918 and Ruth, b. 31 March 1921.
This Petition was filed 24 July 1925.

In the 1930 census, a third daughter is listed, Gertrude, age 8 months.

I do have a request into the Brooklyn Public Library via the Ask A Librarian
service. I had a live-chat session with a volunteer who sent my request to
the Brooklyn library to ascertain if anyone there could look for newspaper
obits or death notices.

But in the meantime, direction >from members of this list will be greatly
appreciated.

Marie Mx Spearman
mxworld_us@...
Washington state

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SHUCHMAN Obits - help requested #general

Marie Spearman
 

Harry SHUCHMAN died 5 January 1948 and wife Clara Lemovitz Shuchman died 17
October 1979. I've found their burial at Mount Lebanon Cemetery online
(www.mountlebanoncemetery.com) but have not been successful in finding
obituaries.

I received Harry's death certificate >from the Borough of Brooklyn this week.
He was 57, a tinsmith, born in Russia, father David, and mother Genee/Genu
Shapiro. Informant was a daughter, Ruth Kapperman?? Or K???erman - looks
like 2 p's but no discernable vowel between the K and first p.

No birth date on Harry's death certificate, but on his WWII draft
registration card, birth date is 15 May 1889; place Kiev, Russia. On most
records found thus far his and Clara's residence is consistently *** 5th
Avenue, Brooklyn.

Clara's birth on her Petition for Naturalization is 30 November 1892, Kiev,
Russia. She stated she was m. 30 July 1916 at Brooklyn, but marriage
certificate just received is dated 30 July 1917. On her Petition two
daughters are listed: Ethel, b. 6 January 1918 and Ruth, b. 31 March 1921.
This Petition was filed 24 July 1925.

In the 1930 census, a third daughter is listed, Gertrude, age 8 months.

I do have a request into the Brooklyn Public Library via the Ask A Librarian
service. I had a live-chat session with a volunteer who sent my request to
the Brooklyn library to ascertain if anyone there could look for newspaper
obits or death notices.

But in the meantime, direction >from members of this list will be greatly
appreciated.

Marie Mx Spearman
mxworld_us@...
Washington state

Re: NY Cemetery Suggestions #general

A. E. Jordan
 

there is a Lilly Gerstein death record in the database produced by the
Italian Genealogy Society in New York (http://www.italiangen.org/) and
it shows she died on Aug. 6 1948 at age 34 in Manhattan

Checking The New York Times there is an obitf or Lilly Gerstein on Aug
7, 1948 and she is the daughter of Fanny and the sister of Bertha
Straus and Joseph. Unfortunately it only said services at Riverside
and no details on interment.

I then looked at Fannie's death notice also in The New York Times and
again it does not have a location of burial only Riverside for the
service. Possibly Riverside has the records >from 1966 if not 1948?
Fannie's obit appears November 2, 1966 in the paper. She is the wife
of the late Rabbi Nathan Gerstein, mother of Berta Strauss, Joseph and
the late Lilly Gerstein. Grandmother to Terrance, Robert, Neal, Paul
and Elizabeth.

The suggestion of getting the death certificate is correct as they may
have written down the name of the cemetery or the town in which the
cemetery was located. However a much less expensive way of accessing
the death record is via any Family History Center of the LDS. They
have the NYC death certificates on microfilm and although I have not
done it personally I am told it is easy and only costs a few dollars to
order and have the certificate mailed to you.

Fannie's certificate would still be with the Health Department in NYC
and only direct family members could order it by mail. But it would be
available and if you want to make certain of the information at the New
York Public Library's main research library on Fifth Avenue and 42nd
Street in the genealogy collection on the open shelf is an index of
deaths in NYC which would give the name, date, borough of death and the
certificate number.

Allan Jordan

Yiddish Translation-Please #general

ms nodrog
 

Dear Genners,
I am anxious to have the two items I posted to Viewmate translated into English.
I believe they are both >from my Aunt who perished in the Holocaust.

Unfortunately, I do not have the originals. I only have copies of the originals
and have tried to raise the resolution and contrast of the copies.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. The links are:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15710
and
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15711

Thank you in advance,
Hope Gordon

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NY Cemetery Suggestions #general

A. E. Jordan
 

there is a Lilly Gerstein death record in the database produced by the
Italian Genealogy Society in New York (http://www.italiangen.org/) and
it shows she died on Aug. 6 1948 at age 34 in Manhattan

Checking The New York Times there is an obitf or Lilly Gerstein on Aug
7, 1948 and she is the daughter of Fanny and the sister of Bertha
Straus and Joseph. Unfortunately it only said services at Riverside
and no details on interment.

I then looked at Fannie's death notice also in The New York Times and
again it does not have a location of burial only Riverside for the
service. Possibly Riverside has the records >from 1966 if not 1948?
Fannie's obit appears November 2, 1966 in the paper. She is the wife
of the late Rabbi Nathan Gerstein, mother of Berta Strauss, Joseph and
the late Lilly Gerstein. Grandmother to Terrance, Robert, Neal, Paul
and Elizabeth.

The suggestion of getting the death certificate is correct as they may
have written down the name of the cemetery or the town in which the
cemetery was located. However a much less expensive way of accessing
the death record is via any Family History Center of the LDS. They
have the NYC death certificates on microfilm and although I have not
done it personally I am told it is easy and only costs a few dollars to
order and have the certificate mailed to you.

Fannie's certificate would still be with the Health Department in NYC
and only direct family members could order it by mail. But it would be
available and if you want to make certain of the information at the New
York Public Library's main research library on Fifth Avenue and 42nd
Street in the genealogy collection on the open shelf is an index of
deaths in NYC which would give the name, date, borough of death and the
certificate number.

Allan Jordan

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yiddish Translation-Please #general

ms nodrog
 

Dear Genners,
I am anxious to have the two items I posted to Viewmate translated into English.
I believe they are both >from my Aunt who perished in the Holocaust.

Unfortunately, I do not have the originals. I only have copies of the originals
and have tried to raise the resolution and contrast of the copies.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. The links are:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15710
and
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15711

Thank you in advance,
Hope Gordon

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.