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Jackie Schwarz
Dear Researchers
I would like to bring to your attention the following information on the Mormon site. I am a researcher and often work at the Felix Archive in Antwerp which has the files of foreigners having lived in the city dating back to 1840 until 1930. Many of the foreigners in the Indexes, especially in the first part of the XXth Century were Jewish and came >from Eastern Europe. The files exist for all foreigners even if they only spent a short time in the city. The indexes of names, file numbers, date and place of birth are found in the Foreigner Indexes which could previously be accessed directly >from the Felix Archives, however they can now be viewed directly >from the Mormon site with a name search. The explanatory notes and information can be found on the Mormon site itself. https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Belgium,_Antwerp_Police_Immigration_Index_(FamilySearch_Historical_Records) https://www.familysearch.org/s/collection/show#uri=http://search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1477769&hash=Mrd8SMocDIIen2Q83tu%252B82PRagg%253D With Kind Regards Jackie SchwarzAntwerp Belgium MODERATOR'S NOTE: Use this address to access: http://tinyurl.com/4jvn5pl.
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Jackie Schwarz
Dear Researchers
I would like to bring to your attention the following information on the Mormon site. I am a researcher and often work at the Felix Archive in Antwerp which has the files of foreigners having lived in the city dating back to 1840 until 1930. Many of the foreigners in the Indexes, especially in the first part of the XXth Century were Jewish and came >from Eastern Europe. The files exist for all foreigners even if they only spent a short time in the city. The indexes of names, file numbers, date and place of birth are found in the Foreigner Indexes which could previously be accessed directly >from the Felix Archives, however they can now be viewed directly >from the Mormon site with a name search. The explanatory notes and information can be found on the Mormon site itself. https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Belgium,_Antwerp_Police_Immigration_Index_(FamilySearch_Historical_Records) https://www.familysearch.org/s/collection/show#uri=http://search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1477769&hash=Mrd8SMocDIIen2Q83tu%252B82PRagg%253D With Kind Regards Jackie SchwarzAntwerp Belgium MODERATOR'S NOTE: Use this address to access: http://tinyurl.com/4jvn5pl.
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Hamburg Passenger Lists
#unitedkingdom
oldandintheway9@...
Are the Hamburg Passenger lists freely available or only on subsciption sites? I want to research family members coming to the UK >from Warsaw, Lodz, Paris and Vilnius between 1894-1915.
Many thanks Chris GOULD/London UK Searching: ASHENFARB; BERGBAUM; GOULD/LEVY-GOULD; KORENBLIT; SALISBURY; SOLSBERG; ZALCBERG.
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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Hamburg Passenger Lists
#unitedkingdom
oldandintheway9@...
Are the Hamburg Passenger lists freely available or only on subsciption sites? I want to research family members coming to the UK >from Warsaw, Lodz, Paris and Vilnius between 1894-1915.
Many thanks Chris GOULD/London UK Searching: ASHENFARB; BERGBAUM; GOULD/LEVY-GOULD; KORENBLIT; SALISBURY; SOLSBERG; ZALCBERG.
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Re: Translation of Betzalel
#general
Barbara Ellman
In my family, the familiar/shortened name in Europe was Tsollie.
In the US, all Betzalels in my family became Charlies (Charles). Barbara Ellman What name is Betzalel? in English snip....
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Translation of Betzalel
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Barbara Ellman
In my family, the familiar/shortened name in Europe was Tsollie.
In the US, all Betzalels in my family became Charlies (Charles). Barbara Ellman What name is Betzalel? in English snip....
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Emigrating twice to USA?
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Alaine Simpson <bumberbidus@...>
Recently I have discovered a family member, my grandfather's brother, who
emigrated alone to the US in 1906, and again in 1912 with his wife and children. Both cases are documented, and his grandson confirms that this man did indeed go back to Ukraine, and may even have emigrated a third time. The reason given was that he simply couldn't find a synagogue which was strict enough for him. I know that people who emigrated first saved up and brought over their families, sometimes years later. But does anyone else have an instance of multiple emigration, and would the reason given be a valid one? Alaine Simpson Hampshire England
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Emigrating twice to USA?
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Alaine Simpson <bumberbidus@...>
Recently I have discovered a family member, my grandfather's brother, who
emigrated alone to the US in 1906, and again in 1912 with his wife and children. Both cases are documented, and his grandson confirms that this man did indeed go back to Ukraine, and may even have emigrated a third time. The reason given was that he simply couldn't find a synagogue which was strict enough for him. I know that people who emigrated first saved up and brought over their families, sometimes years later. But does anyone else have an instance of multiple emigration, and would the reason given be a valid one? Alaine Simpson Hampshire England
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The Forward Article on DNA Testing
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Jan Meisels Allen
The Forward in its January 18 issue has an article on "Newer DNATests
Uncover Hidden Jewish Bloodlines. See: http://forward.com/articles/134758/ I have no affiliation with either The Forward nor 23andMe Jan Meisels Allen Agoura Hills, CA SEARCHING: REICH, WALD, ZUPNIK, Presov, Mestiszko, Szivdnik; Salgo, Sebes Kellemes, Slovakia (formerly Hungary) MEISELS, SEGALLA/SIGALL, LIEBERMAN --Brody, Ukraine KLAJNMAN, SZLANG-- Sochaczew, Chorzele, and Zakroczym Poland FREJER, IMJAK, WILAMOWSKY, KREPLAK,-Stawiski, Poland SZAPIRA, SOBOTKO, PIATKOWSKA, PERLA, ASZ, WAPNIARZ -Lomza ,Poland GUTFARB -- Zambrow, Poland ASZ, Nasielsk, Poland ELION, Suwalki Lithuania
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The Forward Article on DNA Testing
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Jan Meisels Allen
The Forward in its January 18 issue has an article on "Newer DNATests
Uncover Hidden Jewish Bloodlines. See: http://forward.com/articles/134758/ I have no affiliation with either The Forward nor 23andMe Jan Meisels Allen Agoura Hills, CA SEARCHING: REICH, WALD, ZUPNIK, Presov, Mestiszko, Szivdnik; Salgo, Sebes Kellemes, Slovakia (formerly Hungary) MEISELS, SEGALLA/SIGALL, LIEBERMAN --Brody, Ukraine KLAJNMAN, SZLANG-- Sochaczew, Chorzele, and Zakroczym Poland FREJER, IMJAK, WILAMOWSKY, KREPLAK,-Stawiski, Poland SZAPIRA, SOBOTKO, PIATKOWSKA, PERLA, ASZ, WAPNIARZ -Lomza ,Poland GUTFARB -- Zambrow, Poland ASZ, Nasielsk, Poland ELION, Suwalki Lithuania
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place of registration as place of birth
#general
Herbert Lazerow
It is with hesitation that I disagree with Howard Margol, who knows much
more about Lithuanian practice than I do. But his answer, that a person listed in an 1887 census as registered in Vizdy was probably born there, makes assumptions counter to my understanding of the registration system. Here is how registration was supposed to work. Probably around 1800, a person was registered to a class (merchant, townsperson, peasant, noble, soldier) and to a place. A person's children had the same registration as their father. When she married, a woman took the registration of her husband. Registration could be changed, but that took money (unless you served a full term in the military), which was in short supply in the Jewish community. So what the place of registration tells you is where the person's paternal male ancestor lived around 1800. If the person was 90 in 1887, I agree that it was likely that he was born in Vizdy. If the person was 40 in 1887, it does not tell that he was born in Vizdy (though Vizdy and the place he was residing in 1887 would be my two leading candidates). Bert Herbert Lazerow San Diego CA 92110-2492 U.S.A. lazer@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen place of registration as place of birth
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Herbert Lazerow
It is with hesitation that I disagree with Howard Margol, who knows much
more about Lithuanian practice than I do. But his answer, that a person listed in an 1887 census as registered in Vizdy was probably born there, makes assumptions counter to my understanding of the registration system. Here is how registration was supposed to work. Probably around 1800, a person was registered to a class (merchant, townsperson, peasant, noble, soldier) and to a place. A person's children had the same registration as their father. When she married, a woman took the registration of her husband. Registration could be changed, but that took money (unless you served a full term in the military), which was in short supply in the Jewish community. So what the place of registration tells you is where the person's paternal male ancestor lived around 1800. If the person was 90 in 1887, I agree that it was likely that he was born in Vizdy. If the person was 40 in 1887, it does not tell that he was born in Vizdy (though Vizdy and the place he was residing in 1887 would be my two leading candidates). Bert Herbert Lazerow San Diego CA 92110-2492 U.S.A. lazer@...
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Searchable 1943 Hungarian Directory
#hungary
viviankahn@...
Logan Kleinwaks has added the 1943 Hungary Telephone Directory
and the Business Directory to the collection of searchable directories on his fabulous Genealogy Indexer website < http://genealogyindexer.org/directories >. This means means the directory can be searched >from within genealogyindexer.org, and search results link to the appropriate pdf and page on archive.org. Because we have not yet identified the person / organization that uploaded the scans to the Internet Archive, the images themselves are not on the Genealogy Indexer website. If anyone has this information, please contact Logan and he will try to get permission to host the images, which would allow him to highlight matching text directly on the images and also load only the single matching page, rather than the entire multi-page pdf. This would, of course, be a big help especially for anyone with slow Internet connections. The description on archive.org refers to an organization called WJLF, which could be the John Wesley Theological College in Budapest < http://www.wesley.hu/ >. If you can help to connect Logan with someone at this institution who might be able to give him the permission he needs to upload images, please contact me or Logan off-list. In addition to the 1943 Directory Other directories of possible interest to H-SIGrs that are available for searching at Genealogy Indexer in addition to the 1943 Directory, include: 1939 Upper Hungary and Carpathian Ruthenia Business Directory [partial, to be continued] {d167} A visszacsatolt Felvidek es Rutenfold cimtara 1938 Carpathian Ruthenia Business Directory {d131} 1937 Carpathian Ruthenia Business Directory {d138} 1930 Carpathian Ruthenia Business Directory {d136} 1925 Carpathian Ruthenia Business Directory {d135} 1924/1925 Romania Business and Organizational Directory, Vol. II (excl. Bucharest) {d42} Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA Hungarian SIG Coordinator
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Searchable 1943 Hungarian Directory
#hungary
viviankahn@...
Logan Kleinwaks has added the 1943 Hungary Telephone Directory
and the Business Directory to the collection of searchable directories on his fabulous Genealogy Indexer website < http://genealogyindexer.org/directories >. This means means the directory can be searched >from within genealogyindexer.org, and search results link to the appropriate pdf and page on archive.org. Because we have not yet identified the person / organization that uploaded the scans to the Internet Archive, the images themselves are not on the Genealogy Indexer website. If anyone has this information, please contact Logan and he will try to get permission to host the images, which would allow him to highlight matching text directly on the images and also load only the single matching page, rather than the entire multi-page pdf. This would, of course, be a big help especially for anyone with slow Internet connections. The description on archive.org refers to an organization called WJLF, which could be the John Wesley Theological College in Budapest < http://www.wesley.hu/ >. If you can help to connect Logan with someone at this institution who might be able to give him the permission he needs to upload images, please contact me or Logan off-list. In addition to the 1943 Directory Other directories of possible interest to H-SIGrs that are available for searching at Genealogy Indexer in addition to the 1943 Directory, include: 1939 Upper Hungary and Carpathian Ruthenia Business Directory [partial, to be continued] {d167} A visszacsatolt Felvidek es Rutenfold cimtara 1938 Carpathian Ruthenia Business Directory {d131} 1937 Carpathian Ruthenia Business Directory {d138} 1930 Carpathian Ruthenia Business Directory {d136} 1925 Carpathian Ruthenia Business Directory {d135} 1924/1925 Romania Business and Organizational Directory, Vol. II (excl. Bucharest) {d42} Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA Hungarian SIG Coordinator
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Question about denial of US petition for naturalization
#general
Janette <janettes@...>
I received in today's mail >from NARA, 3 pages dealing with an
application (there is no actual declaration of intent of application for naturalization such as I have seen in other files) >from 1904. It is for a man who arrived in the US in 1892 and who had lived in Brooklyn NY (Kings County) for the entire time. I was hoping that the information I received would tell me why he was denied naturalization. Is anyone familiar with cases of denial on naturalization petitions? The man's name was Sam MELIN (his birth name likely sounded like MILYONTZIK) and he was originally >from that innocuously termed "Russia" and born about 1875. His wife was Sarah nee BRODSKY and they lived on Marcy Ave in Brooklyn. Sam was a butcher. Julius LAVENTHALL also of Marcy Ave was his witness. Any insight into this would be most welcome. Janette Silverman Phoenix, AZ
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Question about denial of US petition for naturalization
#general
Janette <janettes@...>
I received in today's mail >from NARA, 3 pages dealing with an
application (there is no actual declaration of intent of application for naturalization such as I have seen in other files) >from 1904. It is for a man who arrived in the US in 1892 and who had lived in Brooklyn NY (Kings County) for the entire time. I was hoping that the information I received would tell me why he was denied naturalization. Is anyone familiar with cases of denial on naturalization petitions? The man's name was Sam MELIN (his birth name likely sounded like MILYONTZIK) and he was originally >from that innocuously termed "Russia" and born about 1875. His wife was Sarah nee BRODSKY and they lived on Marcy Ave in Brooklyn. Sam was a butcher. Julius LAVENTHALL also of Marcy Ave was his witness. Any insight into this would be most welcome. Janette Silverman Phoenix, AZ
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Jewish doctors from Sopron
#hungary
joe@...
I have uploaded a photo to Viewmate at this address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=17761 I believe it shows a group of my grandfather Tibor SCHEINER's medical colleagues near Sopron, around 1950. There's also a young girl in the photo who may or may not still be alive. I have some more photos from the same era which I can upload if anyone is interested. Joe SLATER Melbourne, Australia Moderator: Please respond off-list if you can help.
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Found someone with Varadi Zsidok hungarian version
#hungary
Roger Adler
Dear Siggers:
I found someone with a Hungarian version of Varadi Zsidok and she was nice = enough to send me the scanned pages which I requested. Many thanks to every= one who responded to my request. I am sure I will return the favor to someo= ne in the near future. Roger Adler San Antonio,Texas =
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WERNER help requested
#general
silberman@...
I am searching for my GGGrandparents who were Werners.
I have evidence that they may have lived in what is currently Gorlice, Poland which was in Austria-Hungary when they left Austria in 1888. I also have some evidence that they may have lived in Vienna at one time. The parents were: Moishe Werner also seen as Moses and Morris in census forms. born 1855 Sara or Sarah Werner born 1856 The children were: Amalia? known as Mollie born 1875 married a Braunfeld Esther born 1878 Annie born 1880 married a Spira Rosie born 1881 married a Wagner Samuel born 1883 Lena born 1885 Gussie born 1889 married a Goldstein Adolph or Meyer born 1893 All but the last two were born in Austria and the last two were born in New York. Any help is appreciated! Stephen Silberman silberman@...
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Jewish doctors from Sopron
#hungary
joe@...
I have uploaded a photo to Viewmate at this address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=17761 I believe it shows a group of my grandfather Tibor SCHEINER's medical colleagues near Sopron, around 1950. There's also a young girl in the photo who may or may not still be alive. I have some more photos from the same era which I can upload if anyone is interested. Joe SLATER Melbourne, Australia Moderator: Please respond off-list if you can help.
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