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Re: Child surname different from the father #general

Aubrey Jacobus <aajacobus@...>
 

This is a recurrent problem with interpreting Polish civil documents.

I was warned many years ago by Warren Blatt that one cannot rely on
a single Polish document to be sure you have the right person.
Also it is also quite common to find mistakes made by the Polish
registrar in recording the names of Yidish speaking Jews who were
illiterate in Polish.

Aubrey Jacobus
London


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Child surname different from the father #general

Aubrey Jacobus <aajacobus@...>
 

This is a recurrent problem with interpreting Polish civil documents.

I was warned many years ago by Warren Blatt that one cannot rely on
a single Polish document to be sure you have the right person.
Also it is also quite common to find mistakes made by the Polish
registrar in recording the names of Yidish speaking Jews who were
illiterate in Polish.

Aubrey Jacobus
London


John Peter Baum #general

Edwin Parks <edwin.parks@...>
 

Hello friends.
I am once again seeking any information on a Jewish Soldier.
He is Sgt John Peter Baum, number PAL 10670590 who served in
the Royal Army Service Corp's Expeditionary Forces Institute -
in other words a forces canteen - in then Palestine some time
between 1945-1948.
In 1950ish he was living at *** Hayarkon St in Tel-Aviv.

Eddie Parks


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen John Peter Baum #general

Edwin Parks <edwin.parks@...>
 

Hello friends.
I am once again seeking any information on a Jewish Soldier.
He is Sgt John Peter Baum, number PAL 10670590 who served in
the Royal Army Service Corp's Expeditionary Forces Institute -
in other words a forces canteen - in then Palestine some time
between 1945-1948.
In 1950ish he was living at *** Hayarkon St in Tel-Aviv.

Eddie Parks


puzzle over concentation camp prisoner photograph #general

apollo <apollo@...>
 

I have a black-and-white photo of a great-uncle of mine in which
he is wearing the striped prisoner clothes of the concentration
camps and is standing in front of a curtain in what appears to be
a formal studio-style photo. No-one in the family knows when,
where or why this photo was taken.
My great-uncle, a Polish Jew, survived Auschwitz, Buchenwald and
other camps, but somehow I don't think the Germans got their
prisoners to line up for formal portraits during the war, so
I'm guessing it was probably taken afterwards, maybe by the
Americans who liberated him (in southern Germany) or by those
running the DP camp (near Munich) where he stayed after the war.
Maybe it was taken for the purposes of evidence and/or a
compensation claim. My great-uncle looks thin in the photo,
but he was always thin, even decades after the war, so that
doesn't help pin any time frame down. Does anyone know if the
liberating troops or the DP camp staff took formal photos of
the people there? Does anyone have any other ideas when and
where a photo like this could have been taken?

Thanks in advance,
Miriam Bulwar David-Hay,
Ra'anana, Israel

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people to interpret your description.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen puzzle over concentation camp prisoner photograph #general

apollo <apollo@...>
 

I have a black-and-white photo of a great-uncle of mine in which
he is wearing the striped prisoner clothes of the concentration
camps and is standing in front of a curtain in what appears to be
a formal studio-style photo. No-one in the family knows when,
where or why this photo was taken.
My great-uncle, a Polish Jew, survived Auschwitz, Buchenwald and
other camps, but somehow I don't think the Germans got their
prisoners to line up for formal portraits during the war, so
I'm guessing it was probably taken afterwards, maybe by the
Americans who liberated him (in southern Germany) or by those
running the DP camp (near Munich) where he stayed after the war.
Maybe it was taken for the purposes of evidence and/or a
compensation claim. My great-uncle looks thin in the photo,
but he was always thin, even decades after the war, so that
doesn't help pin any time frame down. Does anyone know if the
liberating troops or the DP camp staff took formal photos of
the people there? Does anyone have any other ideas when and
where a photo like this could have been taken?

Thanks in advance,
Miriam Bulwar David-Hay,
Ra'anana, Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: If you upload the photo to ViewMate, it may help
people to interpret your description.


Viewmate Translation-Polish-Kempa/Kiempa #general

Stephen Katz
 

Dear Genners;

I would appreciate it if someone could translate the following 5 items
for me. They are >from Drobin, Poland >from 1832 to 1846. These are
records >from the family of my ggf Louis Kemp who fathered 23 children
from 2 wives and was known as the father of Kansas City Jews!! He was
also founder of the Sheffield Cemetery there. I would appreciate all
the details regarding names, dates, locations any any other pertinent
information. I am especially curious about the last one which I believe
may be the marriage of my gggf. If so, this will be my oldest record!!

Thanks so much and thank you again to David for helping me previously!!
I will be making a donation to Jewish Gen shortly!

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17612
the 1846 birth of KIEMPA, Mociek Aron

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17611
the 1841 birth of KEMPA, Chawa

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17610
the 1837 birth of KIEMPA, Sura Ryfka

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key-17609
the 1836 death of KEMPA, Rajzel

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17608
the 1832 marriage of KIEMPA Jakob and FABIAN, Humel Fayga. I think
this is the marriage of my gggf except I thought his name was Szaja
and I thought her name was Krindle so wondering if those names are
buried in the document? A full translation would really be appreciated.

Thank you again in advance
Vicki Katz
Kirkland, Washington

Searching
KIEMPA, KEMPA, KEMP >from Poland to London to NYC to KC, MO
ARONOVICH >from Romania to Lipton, Saskatchewan to Montana to Utah
KATZNELSON >from Bobruisk to NY to Seattle
WAXENGIESSER >from ??? to Winnipeg to Vancouver, BC to Seattle
ARENSON aka KULER NYC and KC, MO

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate Translation-Polish-Kempa/Kiempa #general

Stephen Katz
 

Dear Genners;

I would appreciate it if someone could translate the following 5 items
for me. They are >from Drobin, Poland >from 1832 to 1846. These are
records >from the family of my ggf Louis Kemp who fathered 23 children
from 2 wives and was known as the father of Kansas City Jews!! He was
also founder of the Sheffield Cemetery there. I would appreciate all
the details regarding names, dates, locations any any other pertinent
information. I am especially curious about the last one which I believe
may be the marriage of my gggf. If so, this will be my oldest record!!

Thanks so much and thank you again to David for helping me previously!!
I will be making a donation to Jewish Gen shortly!

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17612
the 1846 birth of KIEMPA, Mociek Aron

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17611
the 1841 birth of KEMPA, Chawa

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17610
the 1837 birth of KIEMPA, Sura Ryfka

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key-17609
the 1836 death of KEMPA, Rajzel

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17608
the 1832 marriage of KIEMPA Jakob and FABIAN, Humel Fayga. I think
this is the marriage of my gggf except I thought his name was Szaja
and I thought her name was Krindle so wondering if those names are
buried in the document? A full translation would really be appreciated.

Thank you again in advance
Vicki Katz
Kirkland, Washington

Searching
KIEMPA, KEMPA, KEMP >from Poland to London to NYC to KC, MO
ARONOVICH >from Romania to Lipton, Saskatchewan to Montana to Utah
KATZNELSON >from Bobruisk to NY to Seattle
WAXENGIESSER >from ??? to Winnipeg to Vancouver, BC to Seattle
ARENSON aka KULER NYC and KC, MO

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Re: Inscription in grave #rabbinic

tom
 

I suggest that you post pictures of a couple of the stones on ViewMate,
and include whatever information you have about the time and place or
the people, etc.

....... tom klein, toronto

"Avraham Y. Kahana" <avreimale@gmail.com> wrote:

does anyone know what Vav-Ayn-Mem-Beit-Vav-Alef means ? I am
transcribing graves into an Excel spreadsheet, and found this 2 or 3
times already.
I could not find any hint googling.


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Inscription in grave #rabbinic

tom
 

I suggest that you post pictures of a couple of the stones on ViewMate,
and include whatever information you have about the time and place or
the people, etc.

....... tom klein, toronto

"Avraham Y. Kahana" <avreimale@gmail.com> wrote:

does anyone know what Vav-Ayn-Mem-Beit-Vav-Alef means ? I am
transcribing graves into an Excel spreadsheet, and found this 2 or 3
times already.
I could not find any hint googling.


Aunts Viewmate 6982 and 6987 #belarus

rlberliner@...
 

My recent posts have been about Volkovysk and Swislocz. I have been posting
searching for my grandparents, Alte Neome AIN LIEBERMAN and Samson LIEBERMAN
plus my dad's two sisters whose given names I do not know.

The sisters pictures have been re-posted to View Mate in the event someone
new on Jewishgen may recognize them.

Please view at http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/view.asp and scroll down
to numbers 6982 and 6987.

Please reply privately.

Rachelle LEAF BERLINER

rlberliner@comcast.net

Searching: LEAF/LIFSCHITZ/LIEBERMAN Swislowitz Volkovysk Grodno Russia


Belarus SIG #Belarus Aunts Viewmate 6982 and 6987 #belarus

rlberliner@...
 

My recent posts have been about Volkovysk and Swislocz. I have been posting
searching for my grandparents, Alte Neome AIN LIEBERMAN and Samson LIEBERMAN
plus my dad's two sisters whose given names I do not know.

The sisters pictures have been re-posted to View Mate in the event someone
new on Jewishgen may recognize them.

Please view at http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/view.asp and scroll down
to numbers 6982 and 6987.

Please reply privately.

Rachelle LEAF BERLINER

rlberliner@comcast.net

Searching: LEAF/LIFSCHITZ/LIEBERMAN Swislowitz Volkovysk Grodno Russia


Aunts Viewmate 6982 and 6987 #ukraine

rlberliner@...
 

My recent posts have been about Volkovysk and Swislocz. I have been posting
searching for my grandparents, Alte Neome AIN LIEBERMAN and Samson LIEBERMAN
plus my dad’s two sisters whose given names I do not know.

The sisters pictures have been reposted to View Mate in the event someone
new on Jewishgen may recognize them.

Please view at http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/view.asp and scroll down
to numbers 6982 and 6987.

Please reply privately.

Rachelle LEAF BERLINER

rlberliner@comcast.net

Searching: LEAF/LIFSCHITZ/LIEBERMAN Swislowitz Volkovysk Grodno Russia


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Aunts Viewmate 6982 and 6987 #ukraine

rlberliner@...
 

My recent posts have been about Volkovysk and Swislocz. I have been posting
searching for my grandparents, Alte Neome AIN LIEBERMAN and Samson LIEBERMAN
plus my dad’s two sisters whose given names I do not know.

The sisters pictures have been reposted to View Mate in the event someone
new on Jewishgen may recognize them.

Please view at http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/view.asp and scroll down
to numbers 6982 and 6987.

Please reply privately.

Rachelle LEAF BERLINER

rlberliner@comcast.net

Searching: LEAF/LIFSCHITZ/LIEBERMAN Swislowitz Volkovysk Grodno Russia


Viewmate - Yiddish Letters - circa 1920 #general

Carol Hochstadt
 

Dear Genners:
I have posted 2 letters written in Yiddish on Viewmate. I believe
that one was written by my cousin's great-grandmother (>from Russia) to
her son, then living in Massachusetts. The second letter was written
by someone else in Russia and sent to another cousin, also in MA. One
letter is two pages long; the other is 3 pages long.

I would be very appreciative for translation of these letters into
English. Many years ago, I was able to have one other letter
translated, and it provided a fascinating view of what life was like
for people in my father's shtetl; it also allowed me to discover long
lost names of earlier relatives. I'm hoping these letters will hold
similar important information.

Names of towns: Kornitsa, Lachawitz, Yampol, Szumsk (in Volyn/Ukraine).
Family names: KISMAN, RISMAN, FELLMAN, KALEEKA

My letters are in the following Viewmate files:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17941
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17942
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17943
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17955
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17956

Many thanks in advance for any help you can provide! Please respond
privately or via Viewmate, rather than to the listserv.
Carol Hochstadt
Salt Lake City, UT


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate - Yiddish Letters - circa 1920 #general

Carol Hochstadt
 

Dear Genners:
I have posted 2 letters written in Yiddish on Viewmate. I believe
that one was written by my cousin's great-grandmother (>from Russia) to
her son, then living in Massachusetts. The second letter was written
by someone else in Russia and sent to another cousin, also in MA. One
letter is two pages long; the other is 3 pages long.

I would be very appreciative for translation of these letters into
English. Many years ago, I was able to have one other letter
translated, and it provided a fascinating view of what life was like
for people in my father's shtetl; it also allowed me to discover long
lost names of earlier relatives. I'm hoping these letters will hold
similar important information.

Names of towns: Kornitsa, Lachawitz, Yampol, Szumsk (in Volyn/Ukraine).
Family names: KISMAN, RISMAN, FELLMAN, KALEEKA

My letters are in the following Viewmate files:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17941
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17942
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17943
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17955
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17956

Many thanks in advance for any help you can provide! Please respond
privately or via Viewmate, rather than to the listserv.
Carol Hochstadt
Salt Lake City, UT


Philadelphia LANE families (was Yiddish Names) #general

Jeff Miller
 

With the amazing help of Genners I've learned that my LANE family included
Hyman LANE (not Max) as the head of household and wife Sarah, children
Rebecca, Abraham and Lena. I greatly appreciate the assistance of Genners
and have separately sent my appreciation notes to those who responded to my
previous posting.

The Hyman LANE family dropped out of the Harrisburg City Directories after
1920, and showed up in the Census in Philadelphia in 1930, and listed their
country as Lithuania (earlier information placed them in Panevezys). And
they all put year of immigration at 1910 this time (earlier records
indicated that Hyman arrived in 1904-1905 and the rest of the family came in
1906 through Baltimore -- the names have been connected form the manifest to
the Census records where Simch became Sarah, Abram as Abraham, Beile as
Rebecca, Sabse as Samuel, and Seil or Leil as Lena).

There are two marriage records (using familysearch.org) for women named Lena
Lane in the Philadelphia Marriage records, one with JONES 1941, and one with
a Henry HOROWITZ in 1931. There are also marriage entries for men named Sam
or Samuel LANE (to women with surnames GREEN, FABERMAN, and KELLY), Sarah
(one to a FISHER and one to a PALMER) and for Abraham LANE.

In the 1930 Census for Philadelphia:
Hymen Lane 51
Sarah Lane 50
Abraham Lane 26
Lena Lane 23

Related families in Philadelphia at about the same time included a brother
of Hyman LANE named Sam (Samuel) and his son David LANE and other family
members; in the 1910 Census: Samuel, wife Annie and children Bella, Sarah,
Dora (Dot), David, Philip, Gertrude, Edith, and Bertha (Bea), were living at
the same address (xxxx Frankford Ave.) as a GREENWALD family. Family
information informed me that Sam's daughters Bella later married KOMINS, Dot
married KESSEN and Gertrude married HIRSHORN. This confirmed that the "first
cousins" of Isadore LANE, living also in Philadelphia at the time, were
children of the Samuel and Annie LANE I'd found in the 1910 Census (Isadore
was descended >from my New York LANE family).

In addition, the 1920 Census included David LANE as a 23-year old sheet
metal worker, wife Mollie, and children Marv and Ethel. Bea, the only
surviving child of Samuel, is now age 100.

I'm seeking assistance identifying descendants of the Hyman LANE family.

Jeff Miller
Maryland
singingtm@comcast.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Philadelphia LANE families (was Yiddish Names) #general

Jeff Miller
 

With the amazing help of Genners I've learned that my LANE family included
Hyman LANE (not Max) as the head of household and wife Sarah, children
Rebecca, Abraham and Lena. I greatly appreciate the assistance of Genners
and have separately sent my appreciation notes to those who responded to my
previous posting.

The Hyman LANE family dropped out of the Harrisburg City Directories after
1920, and showed up in the Census in Philadelphia in 1930, and listed their
country as Lithuania (earlier information placed them in Panevezys). And
they all put year of immigration at 1910 this time (earlier records
indicated that Hyman arrived in 1904-1905 and the rest of the family came in
1906 through Baltimore -- the names have been connected form the manifest to
the Census records where Simch became Sarah, Abram as Abraham, Beile as
Rebecca, Sabse as Samuel, and Seil or Leil as Lena).

There are two marriage records (using familysearch.org) for women named Lena
Lane in the Philadelphia Marriage records, one with JONES 1941, and one with
a Henry HOROWITZ in 1931. There are also marriage entries for men named Sam
or Samuel LANE (to women with surnames GREEN, FABERMAN, and KELLY), Sarah
(one to a FISHER and one to a PALMER) and for Abraham LANE.

In the 1930 Census for Philadelphia:
Hymen Lane 51
Sarah Lane 50
Abraham Lane 26
Lena Lane 23

Related families in Philadelphia at about the same time included a brother
of Hyman LANE named Sam (Samuel) and his son David LANE and other family
members; in the 1910 Census: Samuel, wife Annie and children Bella, Sarah,
Dora (Dot), David, Philip, Gertrude, Edith, and Bertha (Bea), were living at
the same address (xxxx Frankford Ave.) as a GREENWALD family. Family
information informed me that Sam's daughters Bella later married KOMINS, Dot
married KESSEN and Gertrude married HIRSHORN. This confirmed that the "first
cousins" of Isadore LANE, living also in Philadelphia at the time, were
children of the Samuel and Annie LANE I'd found in the 1910 Census (Isadore
was descended >from my New York LANE family).

In addition, the 1920 Census included David LANE as a 23-year old sheet
metal worker, wife Mollie, and children Marv and Ethel. Bea, the only
surviving child of Samuel, is now age 100.

I'm seeking assistance identifying descendants of the Hyman LANE family.

Jeff Miller
Maryland
singingtm@comcast.net


Welcome JGS of Maryland -- A new Resource for Greater Baltimore Researchers #belarus

Michael Goldstein
 

Please join us in welcoming IAJGS's newest member, the JGS of Maryland.
Its president, Laya Bitman, is revitalizing the previously closed JGS and we
are delighted to welcome Laya and their members. They are located in
Baltimore.

This will be a good resource for people doing research in the greater
Baltimore area. They meet on Sundays.

Contact the JGS at familytreemania@aol.com and as a new JGS Laya and
their leadership will welcome hearing >from those of us with some years of JGS
management.

Thank you to IAJGS Board member, Jan Meisels Allen who helped Laya with
her inquiries on recreating the JGS and her IAJGS application.

IAJGS will be setting up a board member liaison for each JGS and this is
an example of a board member helping a member with their questions. More
on that very soon.

If you know of a group that may be starting a genealogy society please
let me know so that IAJGS can be of assistance.

Michael Goldstein Michael Brenner
IAJGS President Vice President Membership


Belarus SIG #Belarus Welcome JGS of Maryland -- A new Resource for Greater Baltimore Researchers #belarus

Michael Goldstein
 

Please join us in welcoming IAJGS's newest member, the JGS of Maryland.
Its president, Laya Bitman, is revitalizing the previously closed JGS and we
are delighted to welcome Laya and their members. They are located in
Baltimore.

This will be a good resource for people doing research in the greater
Baltimore area. They meet on Sundays.

Contact the JGS at familytreemania@aol.com and as a new JGS Laya and
their leadership will welcome hearing >from those of us with some years of JGS
management.

Thank you to IAJGS Board member, Jan Meisels Allen who helped Laya with
her inquiries on recreating the JGS and her IAJGS application.

IAJGS will be setting up a board member liaison for each JGS and this is
an example of a board member helping a member with their questions. More
on that very soon.

If you know of a group that may be starting a genealogy society please
let me know so that IAJGS can be of assistance.

Michael Goldstein Michael Brenner
IAJGS President Vice President Membership

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