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Found my family on the site have some questions what to do with it - SHEVACH #lithuania

Moshe Schaeffer
 

I found my great grandparents while Searching for Surname (phonetically
like) SHEVACH I found them in Lithuania Marriages and Divorces . Some
questions I now have

1. How do I get a copy of where this came from?
2. The Husband it says he comes form Peski, Vaukavysk district where is this?
3. Now that I have this info where would be the best place to go >from here?

Thank you for your help
Moshe Schaeffer


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Found my family on the site have some questions what to do with it - SHEVACH #lithuania

Moshe Schaeffer
 

I found my great grandparents while Searching for Surname (phonetically
like) SHEVACH I found them in Lithuania Marriages and Divorces . Some
questions I now have

1. How do I get a copy of where this came from?
2. The Husband it says he comes form Peski, Vaukavysk district where is this?
3. Now that I have this info where would be the best place to go >from here?

Thank you for your help
Moshe Schaeffer


Help with translations from a Russian postcard and maps in Hebrew or Yiddish #romania

epk13@...
 

Can someone please translate this message in Russian c1890
sent to Chava Spiwak by two women friends?

<http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=21704>

On both the front and back flyleaves of the Capresti Yizkor Book
there are maps. I am wondering if someone can tell me what the
maps depict and translate the writing and, for one map, the key.
I am not sure if they are in Yiddish or Hebrew. The map >from the
front of the book was scanned in two parts, right (A) and left (B)
sides of the open book.

This is the right side (A):
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=21899

This is the left side (B):
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=21898

This is the map on the flyleaf at the back of the Capresti Yizkor book.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=21897

Thank you,
Patricia Klindienst
Guilford, CT USA


SPIWAK /SPIVAK, BURD, KALIK, MILSTEIN, GOLDENBERG of Orgeyev,
Kishinev, and Capresti; Mendoza, Argentina.
SCHAPOSCHNIK / ZAPOSNEK of Orgeyev, Kishinev, Elisavetgrad,
or Mendoza, Argentina; and their related names, SHAPIN, SHAPIRO.
BELINKSY, SCHOCHETMAN of Odessa (who became SCHACHT in the US).
VOLMAN, LICHT of Briceva, Capresti. TSAREVKAN/ CIRIFCAN/ SARAFCONN
of Orgeyev, Teleneshti, Argentina, Uruguay, becoming COHEN in the US.


Romania SIG #Romania Help with translations from a Russian postcard and maps in Hebrew or Yiddish #romania

epk13@...
 

Can someone please translate this message in Russian c1890
sent to Chava Spiwak by two women friends?

<http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=21704>

On both the front and back flyleaves of the Capresti Yizkor Book
there are maps. I am wondering if someone can tell me what the
maps depict and translate the writing and, for one map, the key.
I am not sure if they are in Yiddish or Hebrew. The map >from the
front of the book was scanned in two parts, right (A) and left (B)
sides of the open book.

This is the right side (A):
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=21899

This is the left side (B):
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=21898

This is the map on the flyleaf at the back of the Capresti Yizkor book.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=21897

Thank you,
Patricia Klindienst
Guilford, CT USA


SPIWAK /SPIVAK, BURD, KALIK, MILSTEIN, GOLDENBERG of Orgeyev,
Kishinev, and Capresti; Mendoza, Argentina.
SCHAPOSCHNIK / ZAPOSNEK of Orgeyev, Kishinev, Elisavetgrad,
or Mendoza, Argentina; and their related names, SHAPIN, SHAPIRO.
BELINKSY, SCHOCHETMAN of Odessa (who became SCHACHT in the US).
VOLMAN, LICHT of Briceva, Capresti. TSAREVKAN/ CIRIFCAN/ SARAFCONN
of Orgeyev, Teleneshti, Argentina, Uruguay, becoming COHEN in the US.


Help translating Yiddish writings from Bucharest #romania

ViennaRoots
 

My Great Aunt Clara TABACZNIK-FEINSILBER wrote in Yiddish on the backs
of small photos, sent to my Grandfather Samson TABACZNIK(from
Rashkov, Russia/Moldova). She was living in Bucharest by 1929 at
least. Visited her brother in Vienna, too. I don't know when she
arrived there.

I've posted a photo plus the writings >from 2 photos, in Yiddish. Can
somebody possibly read them and translate for me? It might help me
verify some info or reference other relatives. For instance, I am
trying to trace 3 brothers who supposedly survived the War. I think
one of them also lived in Bucharest, as I've found "Israel TABACINIK"
in the Bucharest phonebooks, 50's to 70's. But I can't confirm he's
related, and don't know what else I can do at this point.

I have also recently found an address in Russian for another likely
brother, "Isaac TABACZNIK" in Kishinev around 1960... but don't know
how to look for him or descendants... have a photo of his nephew,
though!

These images can be found at:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=21884>
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=21885>
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=21885>

Thank you!
Robert Pachner

MODERATOR NOTE: Please remember to always sign your messages
with your full name and place of residence.
Thank you, Moderator on Duty


Romania SIG #Romania Help translating Yiddish writings from Bucharest #romania

ViennaRoots
 

My Great Aunt Clara TABACZNIK-FEINSILBER wrote in Yiddish on the backs
of small photos, sent to my Grandfather Samson TABACZNIK(from
Rashkov, Russia/Moldova). She was living in Bucharest by 1929 at
least. Visited her brother in Vienna, too. I don't know when she
arrived there.

I've posted a photo plus the writings >from 2 photos, in Yiddish. Can
somebody possibly read them and translate for me? It might help me
verify some info or reference other relatives. For instance, I am
trying to trace 3 brothers who supposedly survived the War. I think
one of them also lived in Bucharest, as I've found "Israel TABACINIK"
in the Bucharest phonebooks, 50's to 70's. But I can't confirm he's
related, and don't know what else I can do at this point.

I have also recently found an address in Russian for another likely
brother, "Isaac TABACZNIK" in Kishinev around 1960... but don't know
how to look for him or descendants... have a photo of his nephew,
though!

These images can be found at:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=21884>
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=21885>
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=21885>

Thank you!
Robert Pachner

MODERATOR NOTE: Please remember to always sign your messages
with your full name and place of residence.
Thank you, Moderator on Duty


Phoenix JGS Upcoming Classes #general

Janette Silverman <jsilverman@...>
 

Classes in Jewish Genealogy are now being offered at two Phoenix
locations: Har Zion at 6140 E Thunderbird Road, Scottsdale; and at Beth
El at 1118 W Glendale Avenue Phoenix.

Genealogy 101 -- Beginning Genealogy if you ever wanted to know how to
research your family tree, learn about different formats for maintaining
your tree, the questions to ask and who to ask, and how to understand
the available resources - records, photographs and other data, please
consider joining a class in March or April.

Genealogy 102 Cyber-Genealogy works on developing skills using a variety
of internet tools to help you in your research.

Genealogy 101: Beginning Genealogy
Tuesdays, at Har Zion, 6:30 - 8:00 PM March 6, 13, 20
Sundays, at Beth El 4 - 5:30 PM April 22, 29 and May 6

Genealogy 102: Cyber-Genealogy at Beth El Wednesdays, 6:45 - 8:15 PM
April 25, May 2 & May 9

For more information about our meetings and membership visit our website
or contact Janette Silverman.

Janette Silverman
President, Phoenix JGS
http://relativeity.com/
602-944-3359 ext 123
fax 602-944-3565


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Phoenix JGS Upcoming Classes #general

Janette Silverman <jsilverman@...>
 

Classes in Jewish Genealogy are now being offered at two Phoenix
locations: Har Zion at 6140 E Thunderbird Road, Scottsdale; and at Beth
El at 1118 W Glendale Avenue Phoenix.

Genealogy 101 -- Beginning Genealogy if you ever wanted to know how to
research your family tree, learn about different formats for maintaining
your tree, the questions to ask and who to ask, and how to understand
the available resources - records, photographs and other data, please
consider joining a class in March or April.

Genealogy 102 Cyber-Genealogy works on developing skills using a variety
of internet tools to help you in your research.

Genealogy 101: Beginning Genealogy
Tuesdays, at Har Zion, 6:30 - 8:00 PM March 6, 13, 20
Sundays, at Beth El 4 - 5:30 PM April 22, 29 and May 6

Genealogy 102: Cyber-Genealogy at Beth El Wednesdays, 6:45 - 8:15 PM
April 25, May 2 & May 9

For more information about our meetings and membership visit our website
or contact Janette Silverman.

Janette Silverman
President, Phoenix JGS
http://relativeity.com/
602-944-3359 ext 123
fax 602-944-3565


FW: GRADNER / WAINSTAIN / GERSHCOWITZ #galicia

Roy Star
 

Dear Roy,

You posted an almost identical message on Dec. 30, 2011.
JewishGen guidelines require a minimum three-month wait
before a query is repeated and we request that you wait
even longer. Our readership changes very little in a few months
and it's boring for people to read the same messages
over and over.

Thank you.

Moderator
Gesher Galicia Mailing List


Subject: GRADNER / WAINSTAIN / GERSHCOWITZ

Question :
Can you help me link-up the GRADNER'S originally >from Bialystok with either
the WAINSTAIN'S or GERSHCOWITZ' >from Poland (Tarnopol?) ?

The GRADNER's first emigrated to London (c 1890) then to South Africa.

Their son LOUIS became Mayor of Cape Town in 1933, as his son WALTER also
did later on.

Louis Gradner (1882-1955) was a 'cousin' of FANNY WAINSTAIN (nee
GERSHCOWITZ) born in London (1890-1975).

Her husband LAZARUS WAINSTAIN (1886-1964) originally came >from Poland.

How are the families linked?

Please reply to : roystar20@...

Many thanks

Roy Star


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia FW: GRADNER / WAINSTAIN / GERSHCOWITZ #galicia

Roy Star
 

Dear Roy,

You posted an almost identical message on Dec. 30, 2011.
JewishGen guidelines require a minimum three-month wait
before a query is repeated and we request that you wait
even longer. Our readership changes very little in a few months
and it's boring for people to read the same messages
over and over.

Thank you.

Moderator
Gesher Galicia Mailing List


Subject: GRADNER / WAINSTAIN / GERSHCOWITZ

Question :
Can you help me link-up the GRADNER'S originally >from Bialystok with either
the WAINSTAIN'S or GERSHCOWITZ' >from Poland (Tarnopol?) ?

The GRADNER's first emigrated to London (c 1890) then to South Africa.

Their son LOUIS became Mayor of Cape Town in 1933, as his son WALTER also
did later on.

Louis Gradner (1882-1955) was a 'cousin' of FANNY WAINSTAIN (nee
GERSHCOWITZ) born in London (1890-1975).

Her husband LAZARUS WAINSTAIN (1886-1964) originally came >from Poland.

How are the families linked?

Please reply to : roystar20@...

Many thanks

Roy Star


Re: I can't find a death record for death due to abortion #general

s_wiener@...
 

Ira Leviton <iraleviton@...> wrote:
"...However, because of the circumstances, it's also possible that the
deceased didn't give her real name to the doctor or whoever did the abortion,
or gave no name at all and the death was reported as something like
'Unknown white female.'... presumably burial was in a cemetery, and
the paperwork is somewhere, and hopefully with a name that's at least
similar to the real one."

To add perspective to Ira Leviton's posting, just yesterday I read an
article in the NY Times about a young Canadian actor who had died in obscurity,
found at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/28/arts/television/neil-hope-dies-at-35-degrassi-actor-whose-life-unraveled.html

This poor young soul, who died at only 35, was not recognized by the police
or the coroner at the boarding house where he was found on Nov. 25, 2007 and
so was buried the following March in a municipal cemetery.
His family only found out about his death recently.

So, this fellow's Death Certificate will never have his name unless the
family wants to pay a great deal of money to have it revised.

Shellie Wiener San Francisco, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: I can't find a death record for death due to abortion #general

s_wiener@...
 

Ira Leviton <iraleviton@...> wrote:
"...However, because of the circumstances, it's also possible that the
deceased didn't give her real name to the doctor or whoever did the abortion,
or gave no name at all and the death was reported as something like
'Unknown white female.'... presumably burial was in a cemetery, and
the paperwork is somewhere, and hopefully with a name that's at least
similar to the real one."

To add perspective to Ira Leviton's posting, just yesterday I read an
article in the NY Times about a young Canadian actor who had died in obscurity,
found at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/28/arts/television/neil-hope-dies-at-35-degrassi-actor-whose-life-unraveled.html

This poor young soul, who died at only 35, was not recognized by the police
or the coroner at the boarding house where he was found on Nov. 25, 2007 and
so was buried the following March in a municipal cemetery.
His family only found out about his death recently.

So, this fellow's Death Certificate will never have his name unless the
family wants to pay a great deal of money to have it revised.

Shellie Wiener San Francisco, CA


1795 Ostroh census photos - help with a couple of Russian & Polish words #general

Mel Werbach <mel@...>
 

JewishGen has almost completed translating the 1795 Ostroh Census - but we
need help in translating a few words >from Polish or Russian.

Czarist government took this census only 2 years after Ostroh was
transferred >from Poland to Russia in the Third (final) Division of Poland,
so it was written in Russian on the left page and again in Polish on
the right page. You therefore may be able to help if you think you may
recognize either the old Russian - or the old Polish - terms:
(The Polish word is listed here first and the Russian word second):-
mukowoz - mukovoz - possibly a flour peddler, "muka" means "flour" and
"wozit" means "to carry" or "to cart" so is it a person who carted flour?
- jarmolnik/jarmelnik - "master [...] zhidovskikh"

The translator cannot read the second word of this occupation in Russian
which translates as "master of Jewish ....."=
(Perhaps "maker of skull caps?")

You can view both the Russian and Polish versions of the original images
on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=21910

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you in advance for your help.

Mel Werbach,Coordinator, 1795 Ostroh Census Translation
Ukraine SIG
mel@...
Researching:AVERBUKH, HORENSTEIN, KANFER, KOMISAR, KORENBLIT >from Volhynia,
Podolia and Kiev guberniyas, Ukraine; VERBUKH >from Moldova;AUZENBERG,
RUBINSKI, ALEWINOWSKI/LUDWINOWSKI, ABRAMSKI, BRODOWICZ, SEJNENSKI from
Suwalki guberniya, Poland; MISHURSKI, GOLDBERG, MENDELSON >from Kovne guberniya,
Lithuania


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1795 Ostroh census photos - help with a couple of Russian & Polish words #general

Mel Werbach <mel@...>
 

JewishGen has almost completed translating the 1795 Ostroh Census - but we
need help in translating a few words >from Polish or Russian.

Czarist government took this census only 2 years after Ostroh was
transferred >from Poland to Russia in the Third (final) Division of Poland,
so it was written in Russian on the left page and again in Polish on
the right page. You therefore may be able to help if you think you may
recognize either the old Russian - or the old Polish - terms:
(The Polish word is listed here first and the Russian word second):-
mukowoz - mukovoz - possibly a flour peddler, "muka" means "flour" and
"wozit" means "to carry" or "to cart" so is it a person who carted flour?
- jarmolnik/jarmelnik - "master [...] zhidovskikh"

The translator cannot read the second word of this occupation in Russian
which translates as "master of Jewish ....."=
(Perhaps "maker of skull caps?")

You can view both the Russian and Polish versions of the original images
on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=21910

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you in advance for your help.

Mel Werbach,Coordinator, 1795 Ostroh Census Translation
Ukraine SIG
mel@...
Researching:AVERBUKH, HORENSTEIN, KANFER, KOMISAR, KORENBLIT >from Volhynia,
Podolia and Kiev guberniyas, Ukraine; VERBUKH >from Moldova;AUZENBERG,
RUBINSKI, ALEWINOWSKI/LUDWINOWSKI, ABRAMSKI, BRODOWICZ, SEJNENSKI from
Suwalki guberniya, Poland; MISHURSKI, GOLDBERG, MENDELSON >from Kovne guberniya,
Lithuania


ROSENTHAL - COHEN London 1891 #latvia #courland

Rachel Poole <rachel.poole3@...>
 

Hello

We all have our brick walls and mine is my great grandmother Jane COHEN.
All I know is that she came >from Courland, her Hebrew name was Sheina, her
father was Bentzion, mother unknown. She married Jack/ John Silver in London
in 1893. Family lore is that they met on the boat coming over. I have no
idea whether her parents came with her or even if she had any siblings.
I'm a fairly experienced researcher and have trawled all the usual sources
and have all the UK documents that I can find including the marriage
authorisation. I'm now re-checking to see if I have missed anything!

In the 1891 census there is a Jane COHEN described as cousin living with a
Samuel ROSENTHAL an Iron monger, living with his wife Goloa and their
children Hannah, Hyman and Abraham. If this ROSENTHAL family is familiar to
you please contact me so we can work out whether this may be my Jane COHEN

Regards

Rachel Poole
UK
rachel.poole3@...

Searching:
COHEN, Courland, London - SILVER, 'Russian Poland', London, Swansea,
Scotland, Canada, LEVIN/E, Belarus, Liverpool, London
LIFSHITZ/Lipshitz/LYONS, Belarus, Liverpool,


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia ROSENTHAL - COHEN London 1891 #courland #latvia

Rachel Poole <rachel.poole3@...>
 

Hello

We all have our brick walls and mine is my great grandmother Jane COHEN.
All I know is that she came >from Courland, her Hebrew name was Sheina, her
father was Bentzion, mother unknown. She married Jack/ John Silver in London
in 1893. Family lore is that they met on the boat coming over. I have no
idea whether her parents came with her or even if she had any siblings.
I'm a fairly experienced researcher and have trawled all the usual sources
and have all the UK documents that I can find including the marriage
authorisation. I'm now re-checking to see if I have missed anything!

In the 1891 census there is a Jane COHEN described as cousin living with a
Samuel ROSENTHAL an Iron monger, living with his wife Goloa and their
children Hannah, Hyman and Abraham. If this ROSENTHAL family is familiar to
you please contact me so we can work out whether this may be my Jane COHEN

Regards

Rachel Poole
UK
rachel.poole3@...

Searching:
COHEN, Courland, London - SILVER, 'Russian Poland', London, Swansea,
Scotland, Canada, LEVIN/E, Belarus, Liverpool, London
LIFSHITZ/Lipshitz/LYONS, Belarus, Liverpool,


Marist schools #southafrica

Hazel Dakers
 

For years I had understood that my grandfather attended a Marist school in
the 1890's. Some years ago I made an abortive attempt to find out and just
recently a very successful one.

He attended the original Koch Street School in Jo'burg definitely in 1896
and probably in 1898 (initial only for first name). They maintain a record
of names and years based on 120 years of books but can offer no further
information.Interestingly a good many other Jewish boys names are listed
alongside that of my grandfather.

If you are seeking similar confirmation please email me direct, off-list,
for the contact details of the individual Brother who holds this data.
Hazel Dakers, London UK researching:

BIRNBAUM (Zgierz & Lodz, Poland), GOLD (Zgierz & Lodz, Poland), HEIMANN
(Luegde, Germany & South Africa), NORDEN (London and South Africa)
www.hazeldakers.co.uk <blocked::http://www.hazeldakers.co.uk/>


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Marist schools #southafrica

Hazel Dakers
 

For years I had understood that my grandfather attended a Marist school in
the 1890's. Some years ago I made an abortive attempt to find out and just
recently a very successful one.

He attended the original Koch Street School in Jo'burg definitely in 1896
and probably in 1898 (initial only for first name). They maintain a record
of names and years based on 120 years of books but can offer no further
information.Interestingly a good many other Jewish boys names are listed
alongside that of my grandfather.

If you are seeking similar confirmation please email me direct, off-list,
for the contact details of the individual Brother who holds this data.
Hazel Dakers, London UK researching:

BIRNBAUM (Zgierz & Lodz, Poland), GOLD (Zgierz & Lodz, Poland), HEIMANN
(Luegde, Germany & South Africa), NORDEN (London and South Africa)
www.hazeldakers.co.uk <blocked::http://www.hazeldakers.co.uk/>


ROSENTHAL - COHEN London 1891 #unitedkingdom

rachel.poole3@...
 

Hello

We all have our brick walls and mine is my great grandmother Jane COHEN.
All I know is that she came >from Courland, her Hebrew name was Sheina, her
father was Bentzion, mother unknown. She married Jack/ John Silver in London
in 1893. Family lore is that they met on the boat coming over. I have no
idea whether her parents came with her or even if she had any siblings.
I'm a fairly experienced researcher and have trawled all the usual sources
and have all the UK documents that I can find including the marriage
authorisation. I'm now re-checking to see if I have missed anything!

In the 1891 census there is a Jane COHEN described as cousin living with a
Samuel ROSENTHAL an Iron monger, living with his wife Goloa and their
children Hannah, Hyman and Abraham. If this ROSENTHAL family is familiar to
you please contact me so we can work out whether this may be my Jane COHEN

Regards

Rachel Poole
UK
rachel.poole3@...

Searching:
COHEN, Courland, London - SILVER, 'Russian Poland', London, Swansea,
Scotland, Canada, LEVIN/E, Belarus, Liverpool, London
LIFSHITZ/Lipshitz/LYONS, Belarus, Liverpool,


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom ROSENTHAL - COHEN London 1891 #unitedkingdom

rachel.poole3@...
 

Hello

We all have our brick walls and mine is my great grandmother Jane COHEN.
All I know is that she came >from Courland, her Hebrew name was Sheina, her
father was Bentzion, mother unknown. She married Jack/ John Silver in London
in 1893. Family lore is that they met on the boat coming over. I have no
idea whether her parents came with her or even if she had any siblings.
I'm a fairly experienced researcher and have trawled all the usual sources
and have all the UK documents that I can find including the marriage
authorisation. I'm now re-checking to see if I have missed anything!

In the 1891 census there is a Jane COHEN described as cousin living with a
Samuel ROSENTHAL an Iron monger, living with his wife Goloa and their
children Hannah, Hyman and Abraham. If this ROSENTHAL family is familiar to
you please contact me so we can work out whether this may be my Jane COHEN

Regards

Rachel Poole
UK
rachel.poole3@...

Searching:
COHEN, Courland, London - SILVER, 'Russian Poland', London, Swansea,
Scotland, Canada, LEVIN/E, Belarus, Liverpool, London
LIFSHITZ/Lipshitz/LYONS, Belarus, Liverpool,