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Re: Skole and Liesberg #galicia

Igor Holyboroda
 

Dear Stuart Ungar!

Skole Market is the centre of Skole, the marketplace - typical Jewish
area in the centre of a Galician city. The city was ruined during WW2,
but something have survived. (Old townhall was dismounted in the
50ies.) I can't identify Liesberg at the moment. The Skole area was
colonized by the Germans, so it may be some old toponym of
German (not necessarily Jewish) origin. This name should have been
changed after WW2.

Regards,
Igor Holyboroda


Stuart Ungar <stuartungar@...> wrote:

I know my grandmother Lena Greenberg (Grunberg) was born in Skole...
1) She was born in Skole Market. Is that a place, building or region of
Skole? Is it still there?
2) Her grandmother was born in Liesberg. Where is that (and where in
relation to Skole)? And is it still named the same?...


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Skole and Liesberg #galicia

Igor Holyboroda
 

Dear Stuart Ungar!

Skole Market is the centre of Skole, the marketplace - typical Jewish
area in the centre of a Galician city. The city was ruined during WW2,
but something have survived. (Old townhall was dismounted in the
50ies.) I can't identify Liesberg at the moment. The Skole area was
colonized by the Germans, so it may be some old toponym of
German (not necessarily Jewish) origin. This name should have been
changed after WW2.

Regards,
Igor Holyboroda


Stuart Ungar <stuartungar@...> wrote:

I know my grandmother Lena Greenberg (Grunberg) was born in Skole...
1) She was born in Skole Market. Is that a place, building or region of
Skole? Is it still there?
2) Her grandmother was born in Liesberg. Where is that (and where in
relation to Skole)? And is it still named the same?...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Massachusetts Vital Records (1907 or so) #general

Susan&David
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Boston (JGSGB) has an up-to-date list of
Boston area resources. Google JGSGB. On the home page, under Resources is a
button for a pdf file of Boston Area Resources. You can order a birth certificate
for a fee >from the State or, if you know it, >from the city or town.

If you found a list on Family Search, you should be able to find the actual images
on line there also. They have B/M/D records 1841-1915.

David Rosen
JGSGB

From: Jonathan Malamy [mailto:jmalamy@...] My family search began in NYC and
I have learned my way around vital records and the municipal archives at 31
Chambers. But one branch of my family settled and spent years in Boston. Through
familysearch.org I linked to some birth lists but I am wondering if their are
individual birth certificats for Boston/Mass as there are in NY. And marriage and
death too, for that matter. And if so, how do you get access to them? ~


Re: Massachusetts Vital Records (1907 or so) #general

Susan&David
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Boston (JGSGB) has an up-to-date list of
Boston area resources. Google JGSGB. On the home page, under Resources is a
button for a pdf file of Boston Area Resources. You can order a birth certificate
for a fee >from the State or, if you know it, >from the city or town.

If you found a list on Family Search, you should be able to find the actual images
on line there also. They have B/M/D records 1841-1915.

David Rosen
JGSGB

From: Jonathan Malamy [mailto:jmalamy@...] My family search began in NYC and
I have learned my way around vital records and the municipal archives at 31
Chambers. But one branch of my family settled and spent years in Boston. Through
familysearch.org I linked to some birth lists but I am wondering if their are
individual birth certificats for Boston/Mass as there are in NY. And marriage and
death too, for that matter. And if so, how do you get access to them? ~


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Joseph and Sadie Ruderman Horowitz #general

Liz Miller <lizdmiller@...>
 

Hello,

I continue to look for descendants of my Ruderman family. I located the 1910. 1920
and 1930 census records for my great uncle, Harry Ruderman and his wife, Golde/
Gussie and their children, Sam, Sarah/Sadie, David, Esther and Abe(Abie). In the
1930 census, Sadie and her new husband, Joseph Horowitz were living with the family
in Brooklyn.

However, I have been unable to locate any of he family in the 1940 Census. I was
under the impression that they remained in Brooklyn.

Out of the multiple number of Joseph Horowitz, I don't find Joseph and Sadie or
Sarah listed anyplace.

I would appreciate any suggestions as to how I can search better in finding the
family and their descendants.

Most sincerely,

Liz Ruderman Miller
Arroyo Grande, CA


Confirming the Birth Towns of My Grandparents #belarus

Ken Entin
 

Greetings,

I have hit brick walls trying to identify the East European towns where my
maternal grandparents were born and/or lived. Perhaps someone can assist me
by providing a fresh perspective.

Following their marriage and the birth of a daughter, my grandfather made
his way to the United States in 1905 via London. It appears that he spent
almost a year in London and this is documented by a record >from the 'Poor
Jews Temporary Shelter. It indicates that Ch Yentin
was born in Drui and traveled to London on the ship Sperber
from Bremen. Unfortunately, ship manifests >from European ports to England
are not available. When he arrived in the U.S., he identified himself as
Chone (later Charles) Yentin . He also listed London as the origination point.

Until 1930, he kept the name Yentin; it was changed in that year to Entin.


In his Declaration of Intention and Petition for Citizenship, Charles Yentin
identified Vilna as the location where he was born, although this could refer
to the province, rather than the town itself.

My grandmother arrived at Ellis Island in 1907. On the ship manifest,
she indicated that both her birth town and last address was
sway. Her brother-in-law subsequently identified Vitebsk
as his place of birth on his Petition for Naturalization.

Both my grandparents are buried in Montiefore Cemetery in Springfield, NY
in Landsmanshaft).

I have two questions:

1.Is Drui most likely Druya, even when my grandfather identifies Vilna
as his place of birth?
2.Are Osway and Oshve most likely Osveya?

Both towns are in Belarus today.

Thank you for any assistance you can provide.

Ken Entin
MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately


Joseph and Sadie Ruderman Horowitz #general

Liz Miller <lizdmiller@...>
 

Hello,

I continue to look for descendants of my Ruderman family. I located the 1910. 1920
and 1930 census records for my great uncle, Harry Ruderman and his wife, Golde/
Gussie and their children, Sam, Sarah/Sadie, David, Esther and Abe(Abie). In the
1930 census, Sadie and her new husband, Joseph Horowitz were living with the family
in Brooklyn.

However, I have been unable to locate any of he family in the 1940 Census. I was
under the impression that they remained in Brooklyn.

Out of the multiple number of Joseph Horowitz, I don't find Joseph and Sadie or
Sarah listed anyplace.

I would appreciate any suggestions as to how I can search better in finding the
family and their descendants.

Most sincerely,

Liz Ruderman Miller
Arroyo Grande, CA


Belarus SIG #Belarus Confirming the Birth Towns of My Grandparents #belarus

Ken Entin
 

Greetings,

I have hit brick walls trying to identify the East European towns where my
maternal grandparents were born and/or lived. Perhaps someone can assist me
by providing a fresh perspective.

Following their marriage and the birth of a daughter, my grandfather made
his way to the United States in 1905 via London. It appears that he spent
almost a year in London and this is documented by a record >from the 'Poor
Jews Temporary Shelter. It indicates that Ch Yentin
was born in Drui and traveled to London on the ship Sperber
from Bremen. Unfortunately, ship manifests >from European ports to England
are not available. When he arrived in the U.S., he identified himself as
Chone (later Charles) Yentin . He also listed London as the origination point.

Until 1930, he kept the name Yentin; it was changed in that year to Entin.


In his Declaration of Intention and Petition for Citizenship, Charles Yentin
identified Vilna as the location where he was born, although this could refer
to the province, rather than the town itself.

My grandmother arrived at Ellis Island in 1907. On the ship manifest,
she indicated that both her birth town and last address was
sway. Her brother-in-law subsequently identified Vitebsk
as his place of birth on his Petition for Naturalization.

Both my grandparents are buried in Montiefore Cemetery in Springfield, NY
in Landsmanshaft).

I have two questions:

1.Is Drui most likely Druya, even when my grandfather identifies Vilna
as his place of birth?
2.Are Osway and Oshve most likely Osveya?

Both towns are in Belarus today.

Thank you for any assistance you can provide.

Ken Entin
MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Zechiel as a First Name #general

Meron Lavie
 

First of all, thanks for all the responses both in this forum and privately.

For those who asked, the name was most definitely Zechiel. Since he was detained
due to lack of funds, his name appears twice, and very clearly begins with a Z.
There were enough capital "Y"s on the page to enable comparison - the clerk was
very consistent and had very clear handwriting.

Meron LAVIE


From: Meron Lavie [mailto:lavie@...]
I just found out that my gg-grandfather Julius' original name was Zechiel. I
found one or two instances in which Zechiel was used as a family name, but
never as a first name.


Re: Zechiel as a First Name #general

Meron Lavie
 

First of all, thanks for all the responses both in this forum and privately.

For those who asked, the name was most definitely Zechiel. Since he was detained
due to lack of funds, his name appears twice, and very clearly begins with a Z.
There were enough capital "Y"s on the page to enable comparison - the clerk was
very consistent and had very clear handwriting.

Meron LAVIE


From: Meron Lavie [mailto:lavie@...]
I just found out that my gg-grandfather Julius' original name was Zechiel. I
found one or two instances in which Zechiel was used as a family name, but
never as a first name.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Additional information re: Tessa Hoffman #general

msalzbank
 

I hope someone can guide me to helpd identify how Tessa Hoffam is indeed related to
me. I have the following additional information

In a letter to my grandmother dated December 12, 1950 she writes Tessa had 2
children, Robert and Bernice

Bernice's husband was Sidney and they lived in Columbu, Ohio Their daughter,
Barbara Suue was born on August 12, 1950. Tesa lived in Trenton, NJ as of the
letter's date in 1950.

Michael Salzbank

MODERATOR NOTE: Please answer Michael privately unless you have some research tips
and guides that will be of general interest.


Additional information re: Tessa Hoffman #general

msalzbank
 

I hope someone can guide me to helpd identify how Tessa Hoffam is indeed related to
me. I have the following additional information

In a letter to my grandmother dated December 12, 1950 she writes Tessa had 2
children, Robert and Bernice

Bernice's husband was Sidney and they lived in Columbu, Ohio Their daughter,
Barbara Suue was born on August 12, 1950. Tesa lived in Trenton, NJ as of the
letter's date in 1950.

Michael Salzbank

MODERATOR NOTE: Please answer Michael privately unless you have some research tips
and guides that will be of general interest.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Massachusetts Vital Records (1907 or so) #general

Campbell, Karen (Perkins Coie) <KCampbell@...>
 

If anyone can answer Jonathan's questions, please reply all add my email address
(kcampbell@...) so I can receive the same information!

Thank you,

Karen Campbell, Bellevue, WA

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Malamy [mailto:jmalamy@...]
My family search began in NYC and I have learned my way around vital records and
the municipal archives at 31 Chambers. But one branch of my family settled and
spent years in Boston. Through familysearch.org I linked to some birth lists but I
am wondering if their are individual birth certificats for Boston/Mass as there are
in NY. And marriage and death too, for that matter. And if so, how do you get
access to them?


Re: Massachusetts Vital Records (1907 or so) #general

Campbell, Karen (Perkins Coie) <KCampbell@...>
 

If anyone can answer Jonathan's questions, please reply all add my email address
(kcampbell@...) so I can receive the same information!

Thank you,

Karen Campbell, Bellevue, WA

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Malamy [mailto:jmalamy@...]
My family search began in NYC and I have learned my way around vital records and
the municipal archives at 31 Chambers. But one branch of my family settled and
spent years in Boston. Through familysearch.org I linked to some birth lists but I
am wondering if their are individual birth certificats for Boston/Mass as there are
in NY. And marriage and death too, for that matter. And if so, how do you get
access to them?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NY Records #general

A. E. Jordan
 

janrandyfine@... writes:
I am going to be in NYC June during the week of the 18th and wish to obtain a copy
of my great grandparents marriage certificate.


I sent the poster a specific response but a general response to everyone here on
the list thinking about doing this research. Do you leg work before you go. The
Morse tool has links to the indexes and you might want to try newspaper searches
as well to make sure you have ideas on dates and places.

In New York City the records are in different places depending on age. And
different search processes as well.

The older marriages, deaths and births are at the Municipal Archives and those
records are open and you can see them by simply going there. Check there web site
which details their holdings. The later records are not open records and you need
to go to the Health Department which is just up the street but those records are
not public and depending on age will require identification or proof of entitlement
to access them. Over 50 years of a marriage for example and it is not a problem
but they are much tighter on birth certificates. Again read the web site because
it tells you the rules.

In the case of the later marriages for example you need to know the date before you
go to the records room. Otherwise they will charge you extra for searches. The
Municipal Archives has the indexes though to the City Clerk's files and you can see
them there for free. So if you go to the Archives first and search the index you
can find the date and even the certificate number for a marriage. Then you walk
it up the street, fill out the form and wait (15 minutes on a good day) and out
comes the certificate.

The same is true with other records in New York City court naturalizations for
example are at the records room in the same building as the Archives but if it was
a Federal Court it is across town at the National Archives. So the advice is check
and double check where the records are that you want and read the web sites or call
the repository before you end up making a trip and finding out you are in the wrong
location.

Allan Jordan


Re: NY Records #general

A. E. Jordan
 

janrandyfine@... writes:
I am going to be in NYC June during the week of the 18th and wish to obtain a copy
of my great grandparents marriage certificate.


I sent the poster a specific response but a general response to everyone here on
the list thinking about doing this research. Do you leg work before you go. The
Morse tool has links to the indexes and you might want to try newspaper searches
as well to make sure you have ideas on dates and places.

In New York City the records are in different places depending on age. And
different search processes as well.

The older marriages, deaths and births are at the Municipal Archives and those
records are open and you can see them by simply going there. Check there web site
which details their holdings. The later records are not open records and you need
to go to the Health Department which is just up the street but those records are
not public and depending on age will require identification or proof of entitlement
to access them. Over 50 years of a marriage for example and it is not a problem
but they are much tighter on birth certificates. Again read the web site because
it tells you the rules.

In the case of the later marriages for example you need to know the date before you
go to the records room. Otherwise they will charge you extra for searches. The
Municipal Archives has the indexes though to the City Clerk's files and you can see
them there for free. So if you go to the Archives first and search the index you
can find the date and even the certificate number for a marriage. Then you walk
it up the street, fill out the form and wait (15 minutes on a good day) and out
comes the certificate.

The same is true with other records in New York City court naturalizations for
example are at the records room in the same building as the Archives but if it was
a Federal Court it is across town at the National Archives. So the advice is check
and double check where the records are that you want and read the web sites or call
the repository before you end up making a trip and finding out you are in the wrong
location.

Allan Jordan


A Ketubah of the family Fattorini in a book of Shalom Sabar? #general

Nardo Bonomi
 

If someone has an easy access to the book of Shalom Sabar "Ketubbah. Jewish
Marriage Contracts of Hebrew Union College, Skirball Museum, and Klau Library"
[Philip and Muriel Berman Edition, Jewish Publication Society. Year 1994] could
contact me privately to tell me if in the book is published an Italian Ketubah of
the family Fattorini? Thank to you and to the moderator(s).

Nardo Bonomi Braverman
Greve in Chianti - Firenze - Italy

Researching on:
BRAVERMAN >from Podolya
GROBMAN Ukraine
LUFT and GRUNBLATT Ukraine
OCCHIPINTI and AZULAY anywhere


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen A Ketubah of the family Fattorini in a book of Shalom Sabar? #general

Nardo Bonomi
 

If someone has an easy access to the book of Shalom Sabar "Ketubbah. Jewish
Marriage Contracts of Hebrew Union College, Skirball Museum, and Klau Library"
[Philip and Muriel Berman Edition, Jewish Publication Society. Year 1994] could
contact me privately to tell me if in the book is published an Italian Ketubah of
the family Fattorini? Thank to you and to the moderator(s).

Nardo Bonomi Braverman
Greve in Chianti - Firenze - Italy

Researching on:
BRAVERMAN >from Podolya
GROBMAN Ukraine
LUFT and GRUNBLATT Ukraine
OCCHIPINTI and AZULAY anywhere


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JewishGen Education - Independent Study July 2012 #general

Nancy Holden
 

Ever dream of a genealogical search companion? JewishGen is offering an
Independent Study class. Your topic, your schedule, your questions.

Nancy Holden will be available July 1 -July 30 for projects centered on research
in the United States or the Pale of Russia (Latvia to Southern Russia). This
session will follow the format of other JewishGen Education classes using a Forum
and one-on -one consultations via the internet.

Have a genealogical problem, conundrum or hit a brick wall? Want to know what
records exist in Eastern Europe, hire a researcher or travel to an archive,
organize your research or write your family history?

In order to qualify for this class we ask that you submit a paragraph about your
project. Your SURNAME, your towns, your goals. Go to www.jewishgen.org/education
Application can be found by clicking "Requirements and Course Details"
http://www.jewishgen.org/education/description.asp?course=30000

This will be a Do-it-Yourself, computer-based, online seminar open 24/7.
Individual readings will be posted according to your research needs. To get the
most out of this course, you will need to post your family data to the Forum so
the instructor can interact with you on your project.

Is this course right for you? This is beyond the basics. Read the course
descriptions to see if what you want to do is covered by a course already being
taught. If not, this may be the perfect class. Students should be comfortable on
the internet and able to upload and download pdfs, images and word documents
(Directions included in the class materials).

Enrollment is limited. Please send your qualifying paragraph to
nholden@... for consideration. Students will be notified of enrollment
procedures by email.

Charge: $150 to be paid after acceptance to the class
Nancy Holden
nholden@...


JewishGen Education - Independent Study July 2012 #general

Nancy Holden
 

Ever dream of a genealogical search companion? JewishGen is offering an
Independent Study class. Your topic, your schedule, your questions.

Nancy Holden will be available July 1 -July 30 for projects centered on research
in the United States or the Pale of Russia (Latvia to Southern Russia). This
session will follow the format of other JewishGen Education classes using a Forum
and one-on -one consultations via the internet.

Have a genealogical problem, conundrum or hit a brick wall? Want to know what
records exist in Eastern Europe, hire a researcher or travel to an archive,
organize your research or write your family history?

In order to qualify for this class we ask that you submit a paragraph about your
project. Your SURNAME, your towns, your goals. Go to www.jewishgen.org/education
Application can be found by clicking "Requirements and Course Details"
http://www.jewishgen.org/education/description.asp?course=30000

This will be a Do-it-Yourself, computer-based, online seminar open 24/7.
Individual readings will be posted according to your research needs. To get the
most out of this course, you will need to post your family data to the Forum so
the instructor can interact with you on your project.

Is this course right for you? This is beyond the basics. Read the course
descriptions to see if what you want to do is covered by a course already being
taught. If not, this may be the perfect class. Students should be comfortable on
the internet and able to upload and download pdfs, images and word documents
(Directions included in the class materials).

Enrollment is limited. Please send your qualifying paragraph to
nholden@... for consideration. Students will be notified of enrollment
procedures by email.

Charge: $150 to be paid after acceptance to the class
Nancy Holden
nholden@...

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