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Looking for present day family of Isidore GRUNBERG/GRINBERG/GREENBERG from Galatz, Romania #general

Jacquie Gruszecki <yehudit5@...>
 

Dear fellow genners:
I am looking for present day family, of Isidore GRUNBERG/GRINBERG/GREENBERG.
He was born in Galatz, Romania about 1875. He emigrated and lived in London,
England. He was a tailor.

Isidore was married, possibly with children. He separated >from his first
wife about 1926. Isidore learned that he had a young daughter, born in 1919
in London, England.

Isidore and his 2nd family, emigrated to France 1927 or 1928. They lived
in Paris, France. They were relocated to a camp in Drancy, France. There
was a round up of Romanian Jews in September 1942. Isidore was sent to
Auschwitz and died 5 days later.

His original family may not have had any knowledge of Isidore beyond 1927.

I have posted a photo of Isidore taken abt.1930 in France the following
viewmate link in the hope that someone may recognize a resemblance
to his present-day family members:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=V23295

Please reply by e-mail privately.
I have re-posted on jewishgen, jgsgb, and rom-sig.

Best wishes to all for continued success in your research.
Jacquie Gruszecki
Richmond Hill, Ontario, CANADA
ID #211429
yehudit5@yahoo.ca

My current genealogical research:
IUZIS, JUZIS, IUSIS, JUSIS, YUTZIS / POPPEL: Dorohoi,Bucuresti,Romania,
Mohyliv-Podilskyy,Shargorod,Transnistria,Moldova,Galicia,Ukraine,Latvia,
Lithuania
DIAMOND/ DIMENT/ DYMENT / BLACKMAN/BLACHMAN: Garliava, Kovno, Latvia,
Lithuania, Russian Poland
CAPLAN/CAPLAND/CAPLIN: Kiev, Latvia, Lithuania, Russian Poland, Manchester UK

MODERATOR NOTE: Research list truncated at 6 lines in accordance with JewishGen
Discussion Group rules. http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/rules.htm#Q4.4
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for present day family of Isidore GRUNBERG/GRINBERG/GREENBERG from Galatz, Romania #general

Jacquie Gruszecki <yehudit5@...>
 

Dear fellow genners:
I am looking for present day family, of Isidore GRUNBERG/GRINBERG/GREENBERG.
He was born in Galatz, Romania about 1875. He emigrated and lived in London,
England. He was a tailor.

Isidore was married, possibly with children. He separated >from his first
wife about 1926. Isidore learned that he had a young daughter, born in 1919
in London, England.

Isidore and his 2nd family, emigrated to France 1927 or 1928. They lived
in Paris, France. They were relocated to a camp in Drancy, France. There
was a round up of Romanian Jews in September 1942. Isidore was sent to
Auschwitz and died 5 days later.

His original family may not have had any knowledge of Isidore beyond 1927.

I have posted a photo of Isidore taken abt.1930 in France the following
viewmate link in the hope that someone may recognize a resemblance
to his present-day family members:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=V23295

Please reply by e-mail privately.
I have re-posted on jewishgen, jgsgb, and rom-sig.

Best wishes to all for continued success in your research.
Jacquie Gruszecki
Richmond Hill, Ontario, CANADA
ID #211429
yehudit5@yahoo.ca

My current genealogical research:
IUZIS, JUZIS, IUSIS, JUSIS, YUTZIS / POPPEL: Dorohoi,Bucuresti,Romania,
Mohyliv-Podilskyy,Shargorod,Transnistria,Moldova,Galicia,Ukraine,Latvia,
Lithuania
DIAMOND/ DIMENT/ DYMENT / BLACKMAN/BLACHMAN: Garliava, Kovno, Latvia,
Lithuania, Russian Poland
CAPLAN/CAPLAND/CAPLIN: Kiev, Latvia, Lithuania, Russian Poland, Manchester UK

MODERATOR NOTE: Research list truncated at 6 lines in accordance with JewishGen
Discussion Group rules. http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/rules.htm#Q4.4
Regina Willner #galicia

Moshe Fink <mosfink@...>
 

Dear Genners

I'm looking for information about Regina Willner who was my mother's
aunt. There might be several woman with the same name, but I'm
interested only in the one with the following details.

Regina Willner was born in Potok Zlote, Galicia, sometime during the
second half of the 19th century. Her parents were probably Jona Zeev
Willner and Henia Ruchel Margulies. She had several sisters but I know
for sure only one name that is Rosa and probably another one by the
name Eidel. She had at least two brothers, one Jechil-Abraham Willner
(my grandfather) and another one Fischl Willner. Fischl had three
sons, and one of them, Norbert, came to the US where he had two
daughters (now in their eighties). Regina came to the US about the
beginning of the 20th century, probably to Ellis Island. I don't know
if she came to the US single or married, but she was a married woman,
and had probably children about whom I don't know a thing. I know
that she communicated by correspondence with my mother and her
brother Jechil-Abraham while they lived in Vienna and later on when
they lived in Palestine and Israel. Any information about Regina would
be deeply appreciated.

Moshe Fink, Herzliya, Israel
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Regina Willner #galicia

Moshe Fink <mosfink@...>
 

Dear Genners

I'm looking for information about Regina Willner who was my mother's
aunt. There might be several woman with the same name, but I'm
interested only in the one with the following details.

Regina Willner was born in Potok Zlote, Galicia, sometime during the
second half of the 19th century. Her parents were probably Jona Zeev
Willner and Henia Ruchel Margulies. She had several sisters but I know
for sure only one name that is Rosa and probably another one by the
name Eidel. She had at least two brothers, one Jechil-Abraham Willner
(my grandfather) and another one Fischl Willner. Fischl had three
sons, and one of them, Norbert, came to the US where he had two
daughters (now in their eighties). Regina came to the US about the
beginning of the 20th century, probably to Ellis Island. I don't know
if she came to the US single or married, but she was a married woman,
and had probably children about whom I don't know a thing. I know
that she communicated by correspondence with my mother and her
brother Jechil-Abraham while they lived in Vienna and later on when
they lived in Palestine and Israel. Any information about Regina would
be deeply appreciated.

Moshe Fink, Herzliya, Israel
Help to locate a document at the Civil Courthouse - Manhattan NY #general

Debby Gincig Painter
 

I am in need of help in Manhattan, New York. I am trying to find a record
that should be located at the Civil Courthouse at 111 Center Street in
Manhattan with regards to a name change.

I have the year, address of residence for that year, name changed >from and
to as well as a page number.

I am willing to pay but am on a limited budget. If there is someone who
can go to the Courthouse for me, please contact me privately at
gincig@yahoo.com.

Thank you
Debby Painter
Michigan
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help to locate a document at the Civil Courthouse - Manhattan NY #general

Debby Gincig Painter
 

I am in need of help in Manhattan, New York. I am trying to find a record
that should be located at the Civil Courthouse at 111 Center Street in
Manhattan with regards to a name change.

I have the year, address of residence for that year, name changed >from and
to as well as a page number.

I am willing to pay but am on a limited budget. If there is someone who
can go to the Courthouse for me, please contact me privately at
gincig@yahoo.com.

Thank you
Debby Painter
Michigan
Whats the best way to find where someone is buried in New York #general

Moshe Schaeffer
 

I am looking for the graves of Hyman (Chaim) and Fannie (Feige)
Markowsky. I have found them on the 1930 and 1940 census in New York (I
believe it is them), she I believe died in between 1935 and 1940 and
him after 1940. I am unable to find where they are buried. What would
be the best way to go about to try to find where they might be buried?
Thank you for any help in this matter.

Moshe Schaeffer
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Whats the best way to find where someone is buried in New York #general

Moshe Schaeffer
 

I am looking for the graves of Hyman (Chaim) and Fannie (Feige)
Markowsky. I have found them on the 1930 and 1940 census in New York (I
believe it is them), she I believe died in between 1935 and 1940 and
him after 1940. I am unable to find where they are buried. What would
be the best way to go about to try to find where they might be buried?
Thank you for any help in this matter.

Moshe Schaeffer
Class VII U. S. Draft - cause for dismissal of citizenship petition #general

Paiste, Marsha S. <Marsha.Paiste@...>
 

I spoke with Walter Hickey of the National Archives in Boston who was more
than helpful.

Just prior to WWI, all citizens and aliens were required to register for
the draft. When called up, my relative said he was not a citizen, did not
plan to become one, and might not remain in the US. He did not serve. I
was told that this was common and legal. When WWI ended all requests for
citizenship were reviewed against the draft records. My relative was
denied citizenship and "VF" was typed on the bottom of his record. I
believe he could wait another 4 years and reapply.

Marsha Starr Paiste
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Class VII U. S. Draft - cause for dismissal of citizenship petition #general

Paiste, Marsha S. <Marsha.Paiste@...>
 

I spoke with Walter Hickey of the National Archives in Boston who was more
than helpful.

Just prior to WWI, all citizens and aliens were required to register for
the draft. When called up, my relative said he was not a citizen, did not
plan to become one, and might not remain in the US. He did not serve. I
was told that this was common and legal. When WWI ended all requests for
citizenship were reviewed against the draft records. My relative was
denied citizenship and "VF" was typed on the bottom of his record. I
believe he could wait another 4 years and reapply.

Marsha Starr Paiste
Re: The name Ergiel #general

Arnold Davidson
 

Howard Coupland wrote: ..."just found out recently that my gg-grandfather
was called Ergiel. I looked at the documentation in Polish and Yiddish and
his name is definitely spelt Hay,Ayin, Raysh,Gimel,Lamed."

If the documentation referred to was handwritten (in script), it is likely
that the Gimel was misread and was actually a Zayin. In Hebrew script,
the Gimel and Zayin are mirror images of each other. That would make the
name Herzl, not Ergiel.

Arnold Davidson
Boynton Beach, FL
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The name Ergiel #general

Arnold Davidson
 

Howard Coupland wrote: ..."just found out recently that my gg-grandfather
was called Ergiel. I looked at the documentation in Polish and Yiddish and
his name is definitely spelt Hay,Ayin, Raysh,Gimel,Lamed."

If the documentation referred to was handwritten (in script), it is likely
that the Gimel was misread and was actually a Zayin. In Hebrew script,
the Gimel and Zayin are mirror images of each other. That would make the
name Herzl, not Ergiel.

Arnold Davidson
Boynton Beach, FL
Kubashki/Kubashka from Russia Poland Now living In Israel #general

Joseph Fibel
 

I am the family historian for the Gradzanowsky family which derives
from the community of Radzanow N. N. W. of Warsaw, currently in Poland
but before W W I I in Russia Poland or Congress Poland (actually
Russia) I believe that there is only one family with this name.

Channah Gradzanowska was one of the six children of Abraham Laib
Gradzanowsky and Perl Rosenwaks. On July 5th. 1884, Channah
Gradzanowska, 20 years old married Mordechai Yosef Kubashki, 19 years
old in Radzanow, in the Province of Scieps

The groom was the son of Yakov Wulf Kubashki and Genia Kraichak.

This couple had the following children, :Eliyahu, Ester, Henoch, Perl,
Tsura Gitl, Abraham Laib , Yachael Meyer, Morris Kahn, & Paul.

Paul and Morris (he changed his name to Kahn) came to the United States
and I am very familiar with their families. I believe that the other
siblings were able to get to Israel. My father in law, David Garber, on
a visit to Israel visited this family on an Orthodox Kibbutz in the 1950's

For some reason, they had an argument and neither branch has heard
from each since then.
I have had friends and Israeli family members check the Israeli phone
books and there appear to be no Kubashkia/Kubashkas in Israel

In 1947, in an Israeli name change list, Yakov Kubashka (following
Russian naming patters, he probably should have been Kubashki not
Kubashka) changed his name to Yakov HaLevy. Does anyone know this
probably very observant Israeli family?

Joe Fibel
New Rochelle, NY
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kubashki/Kubashka from Russia Poland Now living In Israel #general

Joseph Fibel
 

I am the family historian for the Gradzanowsky family which derives
from the community of Radzanow N. N. W. of Warsaw, currently in Poland
but before W W I I in Russia Poland or Congress Poland (actually
Russia) I believe that there is only one family with this name.

Channah Gradzanowska was one of the six children of Abraham Laib
Gradzanowsky and Perl Rosenwaks. On July 5th. 1884, Channah
Gradzanowska, 20 years old married Mordechai Yosef Kubashki, 19 years
old in Radzanow, in the Province of Scieps

The groom was the son of Yakov Wulf Kubashki and Genia Kraichak.

This couple had the following children, :Eliyahu, Ester, Henoch, Perl,
Tsura Gitl, Abraham Laib , Yachael Meyer, Morris Kahn, & Paul.

Paul and Morris (he changed his name to Kahn) came to the United States
and I am very familiar with their families. I believe that the other
siblings were able to get to Israel. My father in law, David Garber, on
a visit to Israel visited this family on an Orthodox Kibbutz in the 1950's

For some reason, they had an argument and neither branch has heard
from each since then.
I have had friends and Israeli family members check the Israeli phone
books and there appear to be no Kubashkia/Kubashkas in Israel

In 1947, in an Israeli name change list, Yakov Kubashka (following
Russian naming patters, he probably should have been Kubashki not
Kubashka) changed his name to Yakov HaLevy. Does anyone know this
probably very observant Israeli family?

Joe Fibel
New Rochelle, NY
Deportation date to Chelmno #lodz #poland

Sara Elkas <selkas@...>
 

I have the original documents (in German) >from the Lodz ghetto showing the
transport date to Chelmno of my grandparents Szmul Ber Lewin and Sara Lewin
nee Wolman and my aunts Chana Laja Lewin and Masza Lewin. The date is down
as 4/4/1942. Yad Vashem and JewishGen show the transport number as TR 13/2.

I have read in Shmuel Krakowski's excellent book "Chelmno - A small village
in Europe" that transports >from Lodz to Chelmno were suspended on the
3/2/1942 as the Germans feared rioting in the ghetto. So how to explain my
family being sent to Chelmno the day after? Or was the wrong date put down
for some reason. Does the transport number (TR 13/2) give an indication of
the actual date of transportation?

I would appreciate answers to the questions above.

Sara Elkas
Melbourne Australia
selkas@optusnet.com.au
Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Deportation date to Chelmno #lodz #poland

Sara Elkas <selkas@...>
 

I have the original documents (in German) >from the Lodz ghetto showing the
transport date to Chelmno of my grandparents Szmul Ber Lewin and Sara Lewin
nee Wolman and my aunts Chana Laja Lewin and Masza Lewin. The date is down
as 4/4/1942. Yad Vashem and JewishGen show the transport number as TR 13/2.

I have read in Shmuel Krakowski's excellent book "Chelmno - A small village
in Europe" that transports >from Lodz to Chelmno were suspended on the
3/2/1942 as the Germans feared rioting in the ghetto. So how to explain my
family being sent to Chelmno the day after? Or was the wrong date put down
for some reason. Does the transport number (TR 13/2) give an indication of
the actual date of transportation?

I would appreciate answers to the questions above.

Sara Elkas
Melbourne Australia
selkas@optusnet.com.au
From Lodz Ghetto to Chelmno #lodz #poland

Apollo Israel <apollo@...>
 

Dear Bernard,

My family also came >from Lodz and died in the Lodz Ghetto, and I have done
the same kind of research as you, so to answer your questions:

1. Yes, if they were deported in 1942, then they were deported to Chelmno.
About 70,000 Jews >from the Lodz Ghetto were deported to Chelmno between
January 1942 and mid-1944. Then when the Germans decided to liquidate the
Lodz Ghetto in the middle of 1944 they sent another 65,000 or 70,000 Jews to
Auschwitz. Only people deported in July or August 1944 were sent to
Auschwitz.

2. To see the original handwritten ghetto lists: these are in the Polish
State Archives in Lodz and Yad Vashem has a copy. You can try writing to
either of those places and inquiring. The original lists are ordered by
street addresses, so give them the addresses as well as the names of the
people.

Good luck!

Miriam Bulwar David-Hay,
Raanana, Israel.

-----Original Message-----

My name is Bernard Flam (Paris, France) and I have found 18 months ago a
suitcase with letters and pictures sent before 1939 by my mother's family
from Lodz to her parents already in Paris:
. Kronenberg >from Opocno and Lodz, ul. Skolna 24, . Zysman >from Zdunska Wola
and Lodz, ul.Polnocna 6, And relatives: Jablonski, Rottersman, Litewski,
etc.

With the help of Jewish Gen and JRI web sites, translations >from Yiddish of
the 62 letters by 2 famous french interpreters, family meeting with
surviving first cousins in USA and visit to Yivo (NY), OFRLI (Tel Aviv) and
Yad Vashem (Jerusalem), I have almost rebuilt the whole history >from 1890 to
the end in Lodz's ghetto.

. I have found the same copy of the Lodz's ghetto inhabitants list on the
web sites, in Yivo, OFRLI and Yad Vashem: this is the 5 volumes list
published by OFRLI and Yad Vashem in 1994. In this list, deportation date of
my great-grand-mother Hana Sura Kronenberg and her daughter Dworja is
30/20/42, assuming they have been deported together to Chelmno?

So where and how I can have a check of the original list and verify if there
is a transcription mistake on the date?

I thank you for your help and wish to meet some of you during congress next
month in Paris.

If I can be of any help for your researches in France, please ask!

Bernard Flam
Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland From Lodz Ghetto to Chelmno #lodz #poland

Apollo Israel <apollo@...>
 

Dear Bernard,

My family also came >from Lodz and died in the Lodz Ghetto, and I have done
the same kind of research as you, so to answer your questions:

1. Yes, if they were deported in 1942, then they were deported to Chelmno.
About 70,000 Jews >from the Lodz Ghetto were deported to Chelmno between
January 1942 and mid-1944. Then when the Germans decided to liquidate the
Lodz Ghetto in the middle of 1944 they sent another 65,000 or 70,000 Jews to
Auschwitz. Only people deported in July or August 1944 were sent to
Auschwitz.

2. To see the original handwritten ghetto lists: these are in the Polish
State Archives in Lodz and Yad Vashem has a copy. You can try writing to
either of those places and inquiring. The original lists are ordered by
street addresses, so give them the addresses as well as the names of the
people.

Good luck!

Miriam Bulwar David-Hay,
Raanana, Israel.

-----Original Message-----

My name is Bernard Flam (Paris, France) and I have found 18 months ago a
suitcase with letters and pictures sent before 1939 by my mother's family
from Lodz to her parents already in Paris:
. Kronenberg >from Opocno and Lodz, ul. Skolna 24, . Zysman >from Zdunska Wola
and Lodz, ul.Polnocna 6, And relatives: Jablonski, Rottersman, Litewski,
etc.

With the help of Jewish Gen and JRI web sites, translations >from Yiddish of
the 62 letters by 2 famous french interpreters, family meeting with
surviving first cousins in USA and visit to Yivo (NY), OFRLI (Tel Aviv) and
Yad Vashem (Jerusalem), I have almost rebuilt the whole history >from 1890 to
the end in Lodz's ghetto.

. I have found the same copy of the Lodz's ghetto inhabitants list on the
web sites, in Yivo, OFRLI and Yad Vashem: this is the 5 volumes list
published by OFRLI and Yad Vashem in 1994. In this list, deportation date of
my great-grand-mother Hana Sura Kronenberg and her daughter Dworja is
30/20/42, assuming they have been deported together to Chelmno?

So where and how I can have a check of the original list and verify if there
is a transcription mistake on the date?

I thank you for your help and wish to meet some of you during congress next
month in Paris.

If I can be of any help for your researches in France, please ask!

Bernard Flam
Gesher Galicia Luncheon with Agnieszka Holland: "Revisiting the Holocaust through Film: In Darkness & In Light" Tuesday, July 17 #galicia

Pamela Weisberger
 

Dear Galician Researchers:

If you are attending the IAJGS conference in Paris coming up in a few
weeks, but haven't bought your Gesher Galicia luncheon tickets --
now is the time to do so.

Our luncheon takes place on Tuesday, July 17, at 12:30 PM and the
presentation is entitled: "Revisiting the Holocaust through Film: In
Darkness and In Light."

Our special speaker will be the accomplished film and television
director, Agnieszka Holland. Her most recent film, "In Darkness,"
was the official 2012 Foreign Language Academy Award nominee for
Poland this year and is based on a true story by Robert Marshall in
the book, "In the Sewers of Lwow." The action is set in
German-occupied Poland during World War II, where a Polish thief
hides a group of Jewish refugees, ultimately saving their lives while
risking his own. The film will screen at the conference on Monday
evening.

Ms. Holland will describe the challenges of portraying the Lvov
ghetto in 1943 -- and its social-political context -- contrasted with
the lives of the story's protagonists. She will also talk about the
universal dimension of Holocaust stories: how to achieve accuracy
and authenticity -- and avoid sentimentality -- while still making an
emotional impact on the audience.

Ms. Holland will also discuss her earlier films -- "Europa, Europa,"
based on the true story of a young German Jew, Solomon Perel, who
survived the Holocaust, just after Kristallnacht, by falling in with the
Nazis, and her 1985 film (also nominated for Best Foreign Language
Film) "Angry Harvest," a German production about a Jewish woman on
the run in World War II, and the changes in artistic interpretations of
the Holocaust during the 27-year span between her works.

Ms. Holland, who was born in Warsaw to a Catholic mother and a
Jewish father, both politically active, will also discuss her personal
ties to the subject matter. There will be ample time for Q & A.

One cannot attend the luncheon talk without buying a ticket for the
luncheon. The cost is 29 Euros. No exceptions! To add the luncheon
to your existing conference registration, log into the website:

http://www.paris2012.eu - and click on "Registration"

OR go directly to this page: http://www.paris2012.eu/products

And under SIG/BOF heading click on Galicia or scroll down until you
reach the Gesher Galicia Luncheon tab.

Click on the blue "add to cart" button, then check out, and pay. You
will have to log in as an "Existing Customer," at that point, to make
sure the luncheon ticket shows up in your bag when you arrive to
register, so have your conference registration log-in information
handy.

This luncheon presentation is not just for Galician, Polish, Ukrainian
and Holocaust researchers, but for those curious about the artistic
challenges of portraying the true stories of the Shoah on the screen.

We look forward to welcoming you to our luncheon.

Pamela Weisberger
President, Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@gmail.com

(Note: I do not yet know if this luncheon talk will be recorded. It very
well may be. Please check the conference website after the
conference for that information.)
Re: 1940 Census questions #general

Joel Weintraub
 

A question arose yesterday on finding two families in Brooklyn at the same
address but on separate pages on the 1940 census.

First, if the researcher had used Google maps, and gone down to a street
view, they would have seen the residence in question. Assuming it's the
same structure as 1940, you would see it is a duplex.

Second, readers should know that the number of pages in a 1940 census
district is **not** the same as the sheet numbers. So a census sheet has an
"A" and "B" side. Sheet 1A is page 1, Sheet 1B is page 2. But it gets more
complicated than that for 1940.

Our utilities for finding census districts by location on the stevemorse.org
site, correctly gave the right census district for the family the researcher
was seeking in Brooklyn. But when they got to that ED (enumeration
district) and did not find their family the first time they arrived at the
sheet that had that address, they gave up. If they had continued to look
through the ED, or better yet, jumped to Sheet 61A and higher, they would
have found their family without waiting for a name index. So what is Sheet
61A?

The enumerators were given instructions on how to number the sheets. If a
family was not at home, they either left a postcard asking for a later
appointment or/and left a preliminary blank census sheet to be filled out
and the enumerator would pick it up later. The enumerator's instructions
were that those followups were to be put on Sheet 61A and higher. In
addition, the enumerator on April 8th, 1940 was told to go to areas where
transients would be found (hotels, flophouses, Hoovervilles), and those
people were put on a labelled Sheet 81A.

Thus you could have a situation for an ED that contained 3 sheets (6 pages)
and Sheets 1A and 1B could contain the usual first route of the enumerator,
the 3rd page could be 61A which contained followups, and the 5th page could
contain transients (81A).

Joel Weintraub
Dana Point, CA
https://sites.google.com/site/census1940/
166881 - 166900 of 668827