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Re: 1940 Census and my family - more missing people #general Lisa Lepore <llepore@...> #213890 Try the search tools at stevemorse.org and locate the the census enumeration district, then read through all the pages until you find their address. If you can't find the street, or their street number you will know they were skipped by the enumerator. If you haven't used this method before, start here http://stevemorse.org/census/quiz.php According to a message posted here several months ago, the 1940 census was undercounted by about 7.5 million people. It wouldn't surprise me that there are many transcription errors as well but using the method above, you will know for sure if their street was included and they were missed, or if there was a transcription error. Lisa Lepore llepore@... Mendon, MA toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: Debbie Skolnik [mailto:debskolnik@...] Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 4:46 PM I have not been able to find my grandparents, Tillie and Jacob Gerber, in Chicago in the 1940 census, despite trying every combination of misspelling I can think of (and using all different types of wild card combinations). Nor can I find my mother, Rose Gerber (born 1918), who probably was still living with them in Chicago, or in Washington, DC, where she eventually moved (I don't have the exact date of her relocation). My mother's brother, Norton Gerber (born 1915), is also not to be found anywhere, in Chicago, or any other place...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: 1940 Census and my family - more missing people #general Lisa Lepore <llepore@...> #534203 Try the search tools at stevemorse.org and locate the the census enumeration district, then read through all the pages until you find their address. If you can't find the street, or their street number you will know they were skipped by the enumerator. If you haven't used this method before, start here http://stevemorse.org/census/quiz.php According to a message posted here several months ago, the 1940 census was undercounted by about 7.5 million people. It wouldn't surprise me that there are many transcription errors as well but using the method above, you will know for sure if their street was included and they were missed, or if there was a transcription error. Lisa Lepore llepore@... Mendon, MA toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: Debbie Skolnik [mailto:debskolnik@...] Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 4:46 PM I have not been able to find my grandparents, Tillie and Jacob Gerber, in Chicago in the 1940 census, despite trying every combination of misspelling I can think of (and using all different types of wild card combinations). Nor can I find my mother, Rose Gerber (born 1918), who probably was still living with them in Chicago, or in Washington, DC, where she eventually moved (I don't have the exact date of her relocation). My mother's brother, Norton Gerber (born 1915), is also not to be found anywhere, in Chicago, or any other place...
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BRIXTON CEMETERY JOHANNESBURG - LODZ CEMETERY POLAND #southafrica Harold & Yvonne Berman <harvon59@...> #296418 Dear fellow researchers, If anyone will be visiting BRIXTON cemetery, Johannesburg, or LODZ cemetery Poland. I would be very grateful if you could kindly photograph a gravestone for me. The deceased is a possible relative, ggmother and ggfather To avoid duplication of effort, would you please email me off-list for details of the exact location of the graves. Many thanks, Harold Berman [researcher 157703] Sydney, Australia Researching: BERMAN in Ribeni, South Africa, Zeimys, FREED in Linkuva, Joniskelis,Pakruojis, South Africa, Vabalninkas, LIPSIC-LIFSCHITZ-LIPSCHITZ-SHILANSKY-SUDENSKY in Dusetos, Daugavpils[Dvinsk], Kamajal, Leeds, Mazeikial, Panevezys, Siaulial, Smorgon, South Africa, Vilna, Vidzy
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica BRIXTON CEMETERY JOHANNESBURG - LODZ CEMETERY POLAND #southafrica Harold & Yvonne Berman <harvon59@...> #616641 Dear fellow researchers, If anyone will be visiting BRIXTON cemetery, Johannesburg, or LODZ cemetery Poland. I would be very grateful if you could kindly photograph a gravestone for me. The deceased is a possible relative, ggmother and ggfather To avoid duplication of effort, would you please email me off-list for details of the exact location of the graves. Many thanks, Harold Berman [researcher 157703] Sydney, Australia Researching: BERMAN in Ribeni, South Africa, Zeimys, FREED in Linkuva, Joniskelis,Pakruojis, South Africa, Vabalninkas, LIPSIC-LIFSCHITZ-LIPSCHITZ-SHILANSKY-SUDENSKY in Dusetos, Daugavpils[Dvinsk], Kamajal, Leeds, Mazeikial, Panevezys, Siaulial, Smorgon, South Africa, Vilna, Vidzy
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Searching for Abe and Morris FISHMAN #ukraine Ellen Korpi <korpi@...> #308353 Fellow researchers, In the 1915 NY census, my maternal grandmother is living at 23 Meserole St, Brooklyn NY with her mother Mary (Machlia) FISHMAN and two half brothers Abe and Morris FISHMAN, aged 30 and 34 respectively (born approximately 1885 and 1881). Family lore is that one moved to Atlantic City and the other to Philadelphia. I have found a ton of Abe and Morris FISHMANs on the data bases in those locations but can't seem to connect any to my grandmother. Nor have I connected these two FISHMANs to any arrivals at Ellis Island. This family came >from Nikolayev, Podalia, Ukraine. Please contact me personally if you have any Abe or Morris FISHMANs of approximately those birth dates >from New York, Atlantic City or Philidelphia on your tree and think there might be a link. Of interest is that I see a mother/son Mary and Morris FISHMAN in the 1920 census in Atlantic City living with a Charles and Lena FISHMAN and their children Henry, Florence and Ethel (Lillian born to that family several years later). Also of interest is that my grandmother's death certificate in 1930 when she had been living in the Bronx with my grandmother , was witnesses by a Sam FISHMAN, "son" who had her buried at Montefiore Cemetery in Brooklyn. I am wondering if Sam might have been her grandson. Many Thanks! Ellen Korpi Researching: SILBER, LIEBSBERG (Pzemysl, Galicia), FELD, URICH, ORDNER, WOSK, WALK, JONAS, ZIPPER (Lviv, Galicia), CHAMAJDES, KATZ (Magierow, Galicia), SCHWEITZER, FISHMAN, HAYMACHER, COHEN (Nikolayev, Podolia, Ukraine), TOBACK (Mogilev, Ukraine).
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Searching for Abe and Morris FISHMAN #ukraine Ellen Korpi <korpi@...> #628573 Fellow researchers, In the 1915 NY census, my maternal grandmother is living at 23 Meserole St, Brooklyn NY with her mother Mary (Machlia) FISHMAN and two half brothers Abe and Morris FISHMAN, aged 30 and 34 respectively (born approximately 1885 and 1881). Family lore is that one moved to Atlantic City and the other to Philadelphia. I have found a ton of Abe and Morris FISHMANs on the data bases in those locations but can't seem to connect any to my grandmother. Nor have I connected these two FISHMANs to any arrivals at Ellis Island. This family came >from Nikolayev, Podalia, Ukraine. Please contact me personally if you have any Abe or Morris FISHMANs of approximately those birth dates >from New York, Atlantic City or Philidelphia on your tree and think there might be a link. Of interest is that I see a mother/son Mary and Morris FISHMAN in the 1920 census in Atlantic City living with a Charles and Lena FISHMAN and their children Henry, Florence and Ethel (Lillian born to that family several years later). Also of interest is that my grandmother's death certificate in 1930 when she had been living in the Bronx with my grandmother , was witnesses by a Sam FISHMAN, "son" who had her buried at Montefiore Cemetery in Brooklyn. I am wondering if Sam might have been her grandson. Many Thanks! Ellen Korpi Researching: SILBER, LIEBSBERG (Pzemysl, Galicia), FELD, URICH, ORDNER, WOSK, WALK, JONAS, ZIPPER (Lviv, Galicia), CHAMAJDES, KATZ (Magierow, Galicia), SCHWEITZER, FISHMAN, HAYMACHER, COHEN (Nikolayev, Podolia, Ukraine), TOBACK (Mogilev, Ukraine).
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Surname question #general Keith Jacobson <keithj@...> #213901 Hi, I'm trying to locate a passenger record for an ancestor, but I'm having a hard time due to the last name of the person. The name is "MIZEL", but I'm guessing that is not the person's birth name and the name he used when arrived in the US in the late 1800's. Any suggestions on the best way to find the original last name? Census records have various immigration years attached to that person, so searching a specific year is next to impossible. Thanks, Keith Jacobson
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Surname question #general Keith Jacobson <keithj@...> #534214 Hi, I'm trying to locate a passenger record for an ancestor, but I'm having a hard time due to the last name of the person. The name is "MIZEL", but I'm guessing that is not the person's birth name and the name he used when arrived in the US in the late 1800's. Any suggestions on the best way to find the original last name? Census records have various immigration years attached to that person, so searching a specific year is next to impossible. Thanks, Keith Jacobson
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ViewMate Translation - Polish #general Isabel Cymerman #213900 I've posted some vital records for the ZIELONAFARB family of Siedlce in Polish for which I need a full translation for genealogy purposes: who, what where, when, how and witnesses and signers. I don't need the formulaic phrases. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses ... http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24080 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24081 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24082 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24083 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24084 Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application. Thank you very much! Isabel Cymerman Roxbury, CT Searching: GRYNBERG, GRYNFARB (ZIELONAFARB), LUBELCZYK, ZABAWNY - Siedlce DRONZNIK, NEMENCHINSKI, SAPOZHNIK, SOLECZNIK/SOLC, TABACZNIK - Vilna CYMERMAN, KHELEMSKI, LANSKI, WYCZINSKI, ZYSKIND - Przedborz
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Translation - Polish #general Isabel Cymerman #534213 I've posted some vital records for the ZIELONAFARB family of Siedlce in Polish for which I need a full translation for genealogy purposes: who, what where, when, how and witnesses and signers. I don't need the formulaic phrases. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses ... http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24080 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24081 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24082 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24083 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24084 Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application. Thank you very much! Isabel Cymerman Roxbury, CT Searching: GRYNBERG, GRYNFARB (ZIELONAFARB), LUBELCZYK, ZABAWNY - Siedlce DRONZNIK, NEMENCHINSKI, SAPOZHNIK, SOLECZNIK/SOLC, TABACZNIK - Vilna CYMERMAN, KHELEMSKI, LANSKI, WYCZINSKI, ZYSKIND - Przedborz
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Re: 1940 Census and my family - more missing people #general Werner Hirsch #213899 There are definitely problems with the indexed 1940 Census. When this census first became available, without the index, I was able to find me and my parents, living with another family in Hartford, CT, when I searched the index by street address. Now that the index is available, neither my parents and I, nor our host family appear to be listed. After much searching, I was finally able to find myself, but instead of Werner HIRSCH, I was listed as "Wenner Hirach." My mother Else was listed as "Alee," and the host family's name KARLINER was listed as "KOBILNER." Elsewhere in the census, my father-in-law, Louis, was listed as "Imes" and my mother-in-law, Helen, was listed as "Achin." Searching the index for other names as well, I found that I got the best results when I entered as few letters as possible in the name field, with wild cards, and entering the place of residence, when known, and the year (approximate is OK) and country of birth. Good luck! Werner HIRSCH New Haven, CT From: Debbie Skolnik <debskolnik@...> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:45:56 -0700 (PDT) I have not been able to find my grandparents, Tillie and Jacob Gerber, in Chicago in the 1940 census, despite trying every combination of misspelling I can think of (and using all different types of wild card combinations). Nor can I find my mother, Rose Gerber (born 1918), who probably was still living with them in Chicago, or in Washington, DC, where she eventually moved (I don't have the exact date of her relocation)... From: Steven Bachenheimer <bachlab@...> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 8:34 PM I think the simplest explanation is that they weren't enumerated. I have the exact addresses of my parents, grandparents, an uncle and aunt, and a great uncle and aunt in the Hyde Park section of Chicago, at the time of the 1940 Census. They are not indexed and nowhere to be seen in the census sheets >from their corresponding EDs. At the same time, other close relatives in the same or adjacent EDs were enumerated. If my relatives weren't home when the enumerator visited, even on repeated attempts, they were not counted.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1940 Census and my family - more missing people #general Werner Hirsch #534212 There are definitely problems with the indexed 1940 Census. When this census first became available, without the index, I was able to find me and my parents, living with another family in Hartford, CT, when I searched the index by street address. Now that the index is available, neither my parents and I, nor our host family appear to be listed. After much searching, I was finally able to find myself, but instead of Werner HIRSCH, I was listed as "Wenner Hirach." My mother Else was listed as "Alee," and the host family's name KARLINER was listed as "KOBILNER." Elsewhere in the census, my father-in-law, Louis, was listed as "Imes" and my mother-in-law, Helen, was listed as "Achin." Searching the index for other names as well, I found that I got the best results when I entered as few letters as possible in the name field, with wild cards, and entering the place of residence, when known, and the year (approximate is OK) and country of birth. Good luck! Werner HIRSCH New Haven, CT From: Debbie Skolnik <debskolnik@...> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:45:56 -0700 (PDT) I have not been able to find my grandparents, Tillie and Jacob Gerber, in Chicago in the 1940 census, despite trying every combination of misspelling I can think of (and using all different types of wild card combinations). Nor can I find my mother, Rose Gerber (born 1918), who probably was still living with them in Chicago, or in Washington, DC, where she eventually moved (I don't have the exact date of her relocation)... From: Steven Bachenheimer <bachlab@...> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 8:34 PM I think the simplest explanation is that they weren't enumerated. I have the exact addresses of my parents, grandparents, an uncle and aunt, and a great uncle and aunt in the Hyde Park section of Chicago, at the time of the 1940 Census. They are not indexed and nowhere to be seen in the census sheets >from their corresponding EDs. At the same time, other close relatives in the same or adjacent EDs were enumerated. If my relatives weren't home when the enumerator visited, even on repeated attempts, they were not counted.
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Re: 1940 Census and my family - more missing people #general Teewinot #213898 On 8/20/2012 2:31 AM, Lisa Lepore wrote: Try the search tools at stevemorse.org and locate the the census enumeration district, then read through all the pages until you find their address. If you can't find the street, or their street number you will know they were skipped by the enumerator. This was the only way I could find my grandparents, father and aunt. I knew where they lived, yet couldn't find them on ancestry.com no matter what I typed in the search box. Fortunately for me, they were on the second page of the 30+ pages of their E.D. According to a message posted here several months ago, the 1940 census was undercounted by about 7.5 million people. That's a huge number of people. It wouldn't surprise me that there are many transcription errors as well but using the method above, you will know for sure if their street was included and they were missed, or if there was a transcription error. In my case, this is true. My Friedman family was indexed as "Friedmer" on ancestry.com. That's why I couldn't locate them using their search. Steve Morse's finding tools are invaluable! Jeri Friedman (Florida, but born in NY) teewinot13@... RESEARCHING: FRIEDMAN, MILLER, BERKOWITZ (Grodno, Poland/Russia/Belarus); GEIST (?,Russia); GLICKMAN, STURMAN, KAPLAN, ROTENBERG (Bilgoraj, Lublin, Poland/Russia); LIEB/LEIBOWITZ (Jassy/Iasi, Romania); GALINSKY, GELLIS (Suwalki, Poland/Russia); KRASNOPOLSKY, SILBERMAN/SILVERMAN (Krasnopol, Poland/Russia); KOPCIANSKY (?, Poland/Russia); GOLDSTEIN, SCHRAGER (?, Romania); CYRULNIK (Suwalki, Poland/Russia and Kalvarija, Lithuania)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1940 Census and my family - more missing people #general Teewinot #534211 On 8/20/2012 2:31 AM, Lisa Lepore wrote: Try the search tools at stevemorse.org and locate the the census enumeration district, then read through all the pages until you find their address. If you can't find the street, or their street number you will know they were skipped by the enumerator. This was the only way I could find my grandparents, father and aunt. I knew where they lived, yet couldn't find them on ancestry.com no matter what I typed in the search box. Fortunately for me, they were on the second page of the 30+ pages of their E.D. According to a message posted here several months ago, the 1940 census was undercounted by about 7.5 million people. That's a huge number of people. It wouldn't surprise me that there are many transcription errors as well but using the method above, you will know for sure if their street was included and they were missed, or if there was a transcription error. In my case, this is true. My Friedman family was indexed as "Friedmer" on ancestry.com. That's why I couldn't locate them using their search. Steve Morse's finding tools are invaluable! Jeri Friedman (Florida, but born in NY) teewinot13@... RESEARCHING: FRIEDMAN, MILLER, BERKOWITZ (Grodno, Poland/Russia/Belarus); GEIST (?,Russia); GLICKMAN, STURMAN, KAPLAN, ROTENBERG (Bilgoraj, Lublin, Poland/Russia); LIEB/LEIBOWITZ (Jassy/Iasi, Romania); GALINSKY, GELLIS (Suwalki, Poland/Russia); KRASNOPOLSKY, SILBERMAN/SILVERMAN (Krasnopol, Poland/Russia); KOPCIANSKY (?, Poland/Russia); GOLDSTEIN, SCHRAGER (?, Romania); CYRULNIK (Suwalki, Poland/Russia and Kalvarija, Lithuania)
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Re: 1940 Census and my family - more missing people #general Joel Weintraub #213897 Group, Now that the 1940 census has been name indexed by two different and independent groups, I'm seeing an increase in the number of inquiries here about "missing" 1940 relatives. One recent post indicated: "I am feeling as if there are records that have not yet been added or transcribed." Let's discuss the "undercount" or those people that were actually missed on this census. First, you should know that the original 1940 census forms were destroyed decades ago. The population schedules were microfilmed, and that master film was digitized by the National Archives and sold to the various groups that transcribed the census. Thus every group is working >from the same copy. I don't remember exactly, but about 50 EDs were missing >from the master film, probably lost by the enumerator or census bureau before filming, but that's a very small number compared to the 150,000 or so EDs that were enumerated in 1940. There are many reasons why people were missed. They weren't home, and did not respond to the blank forms that the enumerator left for them to fill out. They were residents of cities or sparse rural areas, two difficult areas to count. The enumerator was given wrong directions and maps as to what they were supposed to cover. The enumerator just plain made a mistake and didn't cover one block. The individual was at college or the CCC or some other government program and was supposed to be enumerated at their official address (not the college or camp) and that was not clear to the family and they were missed. And there are probably additional reasons as well including the fact that minority groups had a high undercount. So how many people were missed? Six months after the 1940 census was taken, there was a mandatory draft of men of certain ages. There were fines and prison terms if one didn't register, and many more men showed up to register for the draft than predicted by the census itself. The estimates based on this information, is that about 5% of the population (1 out of 20) were missed and as many as 8% or so of African-Americans were missed on this census. So... have records "not yet been added or transcribed"? I doubt it. All the records that are available are on the digitized film gotten >from the National Archives. In addition, we have two independent transcription groups/indexes for the 1940 census and thus, we have a very low probability that both groups would have "missed" a sheet >from the same ED. As to people who are on the 1940 census that you can't find. That's a different situation. There are a number of reasons why names don't appear as you expect, and that's the reason why I've been working for over 10 years on producing locational aids for finding people. But here's my method for finding people by a name index. 1. relax your assumptions. I try to produce 30 or 40 name results when I do a name search and I trust my ability to have a name "jump off the page" at me that might be the target family. 2. less is more in entering information on name templates. In fact, try to avoid entering last names, but use first names, multiple names together in the family, birth year plus/minus 2 years at least, birth location, and where you expect them to be. 3. use wild cards like * and ?. If you don't know about wild cards, it's time to learn about them. Just yesterday one member of the OCJGS asked me to find 5 "missing" families in New York city, and I found 4 of them using the above. But remember, using name indexes will not tell you if the person was actually missed. You can't prove a negative with a name index. The only way to show they were missed, is to use our locational utilities at stevemorse.org and show that the house they were definitely in, in 1940, was skipped during the enumeration. Joel Weintraub Dana Point, CA https://sites.google.com/site/census1940/
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1940 Census and my family - more missing people #general Joel Weintraub #534210 Group, Now that the 1940 census has been name indexed by two different and independent groups, I'm seeing an increase in the number of inquiries here about "missing" 1940 relatives. One recent post indicated: "I am feeling as if there are records that have not yet been added or transcribed." Let's discuss the "undercount" or those people that were actually missed on this census. First, you should know that the original 1940 census forms were destroyed decades ago. The population schedules were microfilmed, and that master film was digitized by the National Archives and sold to the various groups that transcribed the census. Thus every group is working >from the same copy. I don't remember exactly, but about 50 EDs were missing >from the master film, probably lost by the enumerator or census bureau before filming, but that's a very small number compared to the 150,000 or so EDs that were enumerated in 1940. There are many reasons why people were missed. They weren't home, and did not respond to the blank forms that the enumerator left for them to fill out. They were residents of cities or sparse rural areas, two difficult areas to count. The enumerator was given wrong directions and maps as to what they were supposed to cover. The enumerator just plain made a mistake and didn't cover one block. The individual was at college or the CCC or some other government program and was supposed to be enumerated at their official address (not the college or camp) and that was not clear to the family and they were missed. And there are probably additional reasons as well including the fact that minority groups had a high undercount. So how many people were missed? Six months after the 1940 census was taken, there was a mandatory draft of men of certain ages. There were fines and prison terms if one didn't register, and many more men showed up to register for the draft than predicted by the census itself. The estimates based on this information, is that about 5% of the population (1 out of 20) were missed and as many as 8% or so of African-Americans were missed on this census. So... have records "not yet been added or transcribed"? I doubt it. All the records that are available are on the digitized film gotten >from the National Archives. In addition, we have two independent transcription groups/indexes for the 1940 census and thus, we have a very low probability that both groups would have "missed" a sheet >from the same ED. As to people who are on the 1940 census that you can't find. That's a different situation. There are a number of reasons why names don't appear as you expect, and that's the reason why I've been working for over 10 years on producing locational aids for finding people. But here's my method for finding people by a name index. 1. relax your assumptions. I try to produce 30 or 40 name results when I do a name search and I trust my ability to have a name "jump off the page" at me that might be the target family. 2. less is more in entering information on name templates. In fact, try to avoid entering last names, but use first names, multiple names together in the family, birth year plus/minus 2 years at least, birth location, and where you expect them to be. 3. use wild cards like * and ?. If you don't know about wild cards, it's time to learn about them. Just yesterday one member of the OCJGS asked me to find 5 "missing" families in New York city, and I found 4 of them using the above. But remember, using name indexes will not tell you if the person was actually missed. You can't prove a negative with a name index. The only way to show they were missed, is to use our locational utilities at stevemorse.org and show that the house they were definitely in, in 1940, was skipped during the enumeration. Joel Weintraub Dana Point, CA https://sites.google.com/site/census1940/
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Re: Baron de Hirsch farming communities #ukraine Sandy Bass-Cors <sandy@...> #308355 Hello all: I've been trying for a few years to find where a relative died at what we think was a Baron De Hirsch halfway house, possibly in the South. I've been unlucky and was wondering if anyone knew where this De Hirsch would have buried indigent Jews? Thank you, Sandy Cors toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 8/17/2012 8:58 AM, Patricia Klindienst wrote: In response to Carol Starin's query, I did some research and found information about another family of Russian Jews who emigrated to Camper Colony >from Nikolayev in 1911, as well as the contact information for an archive that can help in the search for information about Colony Camper (whose earlier name was New Hirsch (1911)): The Jewish Heritage Centre of Western Canada is dedicated to advancing and promoting knowledge, understanding, and preservation of Jewish culture and heritage.
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Baron de Hirsch farming communities #ukraine Sandy Bass-Cors <sandy@...> #628575 Hello all: I've been trying for a few years to find where a relative died at what we think was a Baron De Hirsch halfway house, possibly in the South. I've been unlucky and was wondering if anyone knew where this De Hirsch would have buried indigent Jews? Thank you, Sandy Cors toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 8/17/2012 8:58 AM, Patricia Klindienst wrote: In response to Carol Starin's query, I did some research and found information about another family of Russian Jews who emigrated to Camper Colony >from Nikolayev in 1911, as well as the contact information for an archive that can help in the search for information about Colony Camper (whose earlier name was New Hirsch (1911)): The Jewish Heritage Centre of Western Canada is dedicated to advancing and promoting knowledge, understanding, and preservation of Jewish culture and heritage.
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Baron de Hirsch farming communities #ukraine William Sklar #308354 The Canadian jewish Heritage Network has an excellent website http://www.cjhn.ca/en/family-history.aspx which contains many of the individual farm seller reports made by the "Jewish Colonization Association". William L. Sklar Toronto
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Baron de Hirsch farming communities #ukraine William Sklar #628574 The Canadian jewish Heritage Network has an excellent website http://www.cjhn.ca/en/family-history.aspx which contains many of the individual farm seller reports made by the "Jewish Colonization Association". William L. Sklar Toronto
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