Date   

Hugo Gold Bohemia book #austria-czech

hjfinberg@...
 

Thanks to our hard working pair of Jan O Hellman and Rob Pearman, Kurmau/Cesky Kurmlov is now up on the
Bohemia section of the yizkor book site.

http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/bohemia/boh049.html

Vera Finberg


ViewMate interpretation request - old German script #austria-czech

fuerth.thomas@...
 

Dear SIGers,

I've posted a vital record in old German script for which I need an
interpretation. I read German but I have some problems with the old
German script.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM25187
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.
Thomas Fuerth
Stockholm
Sweden


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Hugo Gold Bohemia book #austria-czech

hjfinberg@...
 

Thanks to our hard working pair of Jan O Hellman and Rob Pearman, Kurmau/Cesky Kurmlov is now up on the
Bohemia section of the yizkor book site.

http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/bohemia/boh049.html

Vera Finberg


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech ViewMate interpretation request - old German script #austria-czech

fuerth.thomas@...
 

Dear SIGers,

I've posted a vital record in old German script for which I need an
interpretation. I read German but I have some problems with the old
German script.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM25187
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.
Thomas Fuerth
Stockholm
Sweden


Re: FELDSER - more research aids #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

Thanks to Peggy Freedman for reminding me that I had forgotten to mention
using the wonderful "Southern Israelite" newspaper to locate information
on Southern Jewish families. This was in particular reference to the
FELDSER family and their relatives. One of the interesting things I
learned >from looking up the FELDSER family name in the newspaper was
that Max Feldser's son Robert had married a Cydel Cohen, whose grandfather
Rabbi Samuel Cohen of Charleston, SC, had married them.

In addition, it reminded me that you can look up not only individuals,
but towns and places as well as organizations or businesses. All of
these things are very important in expanding what you can learn about
your relatives and the way they lived and worked. For instance, I tried
looking up whether my Young Judaea meetings were reported on. The reason
for my particular interest was that I had a wonderful photograph of my
Young Judaea Regional Meeting which had been held in Atlanta, GA, and I
had wanted to identify all the people in it whose names I had, by now,
mostly forgotten entirely. However, I found that they weren't in this
particular newspaper, although they had been in others. There were
informational stories or adverts regarding the Young Judaea Camps which
I had attended which brought back many memories.

So, it is always a pleasure when someone reads your posting and responds so
readily like Peggy Freedman did and with such a good resource. I would also
add a resource which is the Encyclopedia of Southern Jewish Communities:
http://www.isjl.org/history/archive/ which is part of the Goldring /
Woldenberg Institute of Southern Jewish Life. Lots of great information
there.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania RE: FELDSER - more research aids #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz
 

Thanks to Peggy Freedman for reminding me that I had forgotten to mention
using the wonderful "Southern Israelite" newspaper to locate information
on Southern Jewish families. This was in particular reference to the
FELDSER family and their relatives. One of the interesting things I
learned >from looking up the FELDSER family name in the newspaper was
that Max Feldser's son Robert had married a Cydel Cohen, whose grandfather
Rabbi Samuel Cohen of Charleston, SC, had married them.

In addition, it reminded me that you can look up not only individuals,
but towns and places as well as organizations or businesses. All of
these things are very important in expanding what you can learn about
your relatives and the way they lived and worked. For instance, I tried
looking up whether my Young Judaea meetings were reported on. The reason
for my particular interest was that I had a wonderful photograph of my
Young Judaea Regional Meeting which had been held in Atlanta, GA, and I
had wanted to identify all the people in it whose names I had, by now,
mostly forgotten entirely. However, I found that they weren't in this
particular newspaper, although they had been in others. There were
informational stories or adverts regarding the Young Judaea Camps which
I had attended which brought back many memories.

So, it is always a pleasure when someone reads your posting and responds so
readily like Peggy Freedman did and with such a good resource. I would also
add a resource which is the Encyclopedia of Southern Jewish Communities:
http://www.isjl.org/history/archive/ which is part of the Goldring /
Woldenberg Institute of Southern Jewish Life. Lots of great information
there.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Who Are Professional Researchers in Ukraine Currently #ukraine

Ellen Shindelman Kowitt
 

We are seeking a professional researcher who can not only retrieve records
in Ukraine, but also help us with methodology to solve a particular family
history question circa 1860-1900 in the triangular geographic region
including and between Berditchev, Zhitomir, and Novograd Volynsk. If you
have recent experience, in the past two years, with someone who you
personally can recommend, it would be appreciated. Please contact me
privately. Thank you.
Ellen Kowitt
grapevynwest@comcast.net

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Just a reminder there is a JewishGen infofile on researchers
with recommendations >from JewishGen readers at
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/Researchers.htm.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Who Are Professional Researchers in Ukraine Currently #ukraine

Ellen Shindelman Kowitt
 

We are seeking a professional researcher who can not only retrieve records
in Ukraine, but also help us with methodology to solve a particular family
history question circa 1860-1900 in the triangular geographic region
including and between Berditchev, Zhitomir, and Novograd Volynsk. If you
have recent experience, in the past two years, with someone who you
personally can recommend, it would be appreciated. Please contact me
privately. Thank you.
Ellen Kowitt
grapevynwest@comcast.net

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Just a reminder there is a JewishGen infofile on researchers
with recommendations >from JewishGen readers at
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/Researchers.htm.


San Francisco Bay Area Family History Centers #general

Cyndi Norwitz
 

I need to order some microfilm vital records >from Family Search
so I can scan them. I've done this before with mixed results,
so I would love your advice on where to send the microfilm. I
need to pick one of the local Family History Center locations
(they're in Mormon churches usually but not every church has one).

I was lucky enough to find myself in Salt Lake City this August
so I spent two mornings in the genealogy center there. Amazing.
Lots of computers available with film scanners attached in an open,
airy, well-lit room. No lines. You could choose to sit or stand.
All the equipment worked well and was very quick, with good clear
pictures. Best of all, it was free.

A year or so ago, I had a film sent to the Santa Rosa FHC (I'm in
Petaluma so it's the one closest to me). Everyone was very nice
there but it's tiny and inadequate. The room with the scanners is
very cramped and kept almost completely dark and there is only one
computer with a scanner attached, so you can't spend too much time
there. It took a bit longer to make each scan. But the real deal
breaker is that the scanner can not view an entire page. I had to
make two scans for each page. Which makes transcription extremely
difficult. 25 cents per scan IIRC (but they gave me half price
because of the above issue). I don't want to return there.

The other centers a reasonable distance >from me are:
San Rafael
Sonoma
Oakland
San Francisco

Has anyone here been to any of these places? Or others nearby?
Can you give a review?

Thanks!
Cyndi Norwitz
Petaluma, California
cyndi@norwitz.net

Kotesova, Slovakia: DEUTELBAUM, ZELENKA
Kosice, Slovakia: KRIEGER
Budapest, Hungary: DEUTELBAUM, KARPATI, GROSZMANN
Cleveland, OH & Chicago, IL & Pittsburgh, PA: DEUTELBAUM
Boston, MA: KARPATI
Chudnov, Ukraine: DUBIN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen San Francisco Bay Area Family History Centers #general

Cyndi Norwitz
 

I need to order some microfilm vital records >from Family Search
so I can scan them. I've done this before with mixed results,
so I would love your advice on where to send the microfilm. I
need to pick one of the local Family History Center locations
(they're in Mormon churches usually but not every church has one).

I was lucky enough to find myself in Salt Lake City this August
so I spent two mornings in the genealogy center there. Amazing.
Lots of computers available with film scanners attached in an open,
airy, well-lit room. No lines. You could choose to sit or stand.
All the equipment worked well and was very quick, with good clear
pictures. Best of all, it was free.

A year or so ago, I had a film sent to the Santa Rosa FHC (I'm in
Petaluma so it's the one closest to me). Everyone was very nice
there but it's tiny and inadequate. The room with the scanners is
very cramped and kept almost completely dark and there is only one
computer with a scanner attached, so you can't spend too much time
there. It took a bit longer to make each scan. But the real deal
breaker is that the scanner can not view an entire page. I had to
make two scans for each page. Which makes transcription extremely
difficult. 25 cents per scan IIRC (but they gave me half price
because of the above issue). I don't want to return there.

The other centers a reasonable distance >from me are:
San Rafael
Sonoma
Oakland
San Francisco

Has anyone here been to any of these places? Or others nearby?
Can you give a review?

Thanks!
Cyndi Norwitz
Petaluma, California
cyndi@norwitz.net

Kotesova, Slovakia: DEUTELBAUM, ZELENKA
Kosice, Slovakia: KRIEGER
Budapest, Hungary: DEUTELBAUM, KARPATI, GROSZMANN
Cleveland, OH & Chicago, IL & Pittsburgh, PA: DEUTELBAUM
Boston, MA: KARPATI
Chudnov, Ukraine: DUBIN


Re: FELDSER - more research aids #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

Thanks to Peggy Freedman for reminding me that I had forgotten to mention using
the wonderful "Southern Israelite" newspaper to locate information on Southern
Jewish families. This was in particular reference to the FELDSER family and
their relatives. One of the interesting things I learned >from looking up the
FELDSER family name in the newspaper was that Max Feldser's son Robert had
married a Cydel Cohen, whose grandfather Rabbi Samuel Cohen of Charleston, SC,
had married them.

In addition, it reminded me that you can look up not only individuals, but towns
and places as well as organizations or businesses. All of these things are very
important in expanding what you can learn about your relatives and the way they
lived and worked. For instance, I tried looking up whether my Young Judaea
meetings were reported on. The reason for my particular interest was that I had
a wonderful photograph of my Young Judaea Regional Meeting which had been held
in Atlanta, GA, and I had wanted to identify all the people in it whose names I
had, by now, mostly forgotten entirely. However, I found that they weren't in
this particular newspaper, although they had been in others. There were
informational stories or adverts regarding the Young Judaea Camps which I had
attended which brough back many memories.

So, it is always a pleasure when someone reads your posting and responds so
readily like Peggy Freedman did and with such a good resource. I would also add
a resource which is the Encyclopedia of Southern Jewish Communities:
http://www.isjl.org/history/archive/ which is part of the Goldring / Woldenberg
Institute of Southern Jewish Life. Lots of great information there.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: FELDSER - more research aids #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

Thanks to Peggy Freedman for reminding me that I had forgotten to mention using
the wonderful "Southern Israelite" newspaper to locate information on Southern
Jewish families. This was in particular reference to the FELDSER family and
their relatives. One of the interesting things I learned >from looking up the
FELDSER family name in the newspaper was that Max Feldser's son Robert had
married a Cydel Cohen, whose grandfather Rabbi Samuel Cohen of Charleston, SC,
had married them.

In addition, it reminded me that you can look up not only individuals, but towns
and places as well as organizations or businesses. All of these things are very
important in expanding what you can learn about your relatives and the way they
lived and worked. For instance, I tried looking up whether my Young Judaea
meetings were reported on. The reason for my particular interest was that I had
a wonderful photograph of my Young Judaea Regional Meeting which had been held
in Atlanta, GA, and I had wanted to identify all the people in it whose names I
had, by now, mostly forgotten entirely. However, I found that they weren't in
this particular newspaper, although they had been in others. There were
informational stories or adverts regarding the Young Judaea Camps which I had
attended which brough back many memories.

So, it is always a pleasure when someone reads your posting and responds so
readily like Peggy Freedman did and with such a good resource. I would also add
a resource which is the Encyclopedia of Southern Jewish Communities:
http://www.isjl.org/history/archive/ which is part of the Goldring / Woldenberg
Institute of Southern Jewish Life. Lots of great information there.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


what NY high school? #general

Paul Silverstone
 

My father was born in 1902 in New York and went to PS 184 in Harlem, New
York City. He told me he then went to DeWitt Clinton High School, but a
preliminary search has not found him. I also have reason to think he
went to Commerce HS, but similarly he has not been found. He did not
go to college, but in 1920 was working for a newsreel company.
He told me he was on the track team.
I would like to view yearbooks for those two high school for the years
1915 to 1920. Can anyone tell me where they might be?
Alternatively is there some other place that one can look at?

--
Paul Silverstone
New York
please reply to paulh@aya.yale.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen what NY high school? #general

Paul Silverstone
 

My father was born in 1902 in New York and went to PS 184 in Harlem, New
York City. He told me he then went to DeWitt Clinton High School, but a
preliminary search has not found him. I also have reason to think he
went to Commerce HS, but similarly he has not been found. He did not
go to college, but in 1920 was working for a newsreel company.
He told me he was on the track team.
I would like to view yearbooks for those two high school for the years
1915 to 1920. Can anyone tell me where they might be?
Alternatively is there some other place that one can look at?

--
Paul Silverstone
New York
please reply to paulh@aya.yale.edu


Fascinating project at old cemetery in Alsace #france

Rosanne Leeson
 

from the Dec. 14 Jewish Forward here is a link to an article about a
fascinating project now underway at an old Jewish Cemetery, dating back
to 1669, in Mackenheim (Bas-Rhin) France. It is a fascinating idea.

http://tinyurl.com/bw44wuz

Rosanne Leeson


French SIG #France Fascinating project at old cemetery in Alsace #france

Rosanne Leeson
 

from the Dec. 14 Jewish Forward here is a link to an article about a
fascinating project now underway at an old Jewish Cemetery, dating back
to 1669, in Mackenheim (Bas-Rhin) France. It is a fascinating idea.

http://tinyurl.com/bw44wuz

Rosanne Leeson


Rabbi Mordechai "gaon Av Bet-Din" of Karlin 19th cent. #rabbinic

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

According to the diary (in hebrew) of my ggreatuncle, Reb Chaim Dov
KANTOR, of Karlin, and Shfeya (Israel), his mother's"she'er basar"
(relative) was a "gaba"d" (gaon av bet din) of Karlin during the
second half of the 19th cent. In the handwritten original diary the
family name of this Mordechai seems to be RUDINER, but researching the
various Mordechais that served in Karlin around this time it may have
been RUZINER (>from Ruzhin).

In the research I have done on Rabbi in Karlin of the 19th century I
have found no RUDINER but there was a Mordechai ZACKHEIM who served
in Karlin (or possibly Pinsk) around that time and he had served
before in Ruzhin.

There is a family tradition (legend?) that our gggreatgrandmother was
a descendant of Reb. Chaim of Volozhin and to the best of my knowledge
Reb. Mordechai ZACKHEIM also studied in Volozhin, but I don't know of
a family connection between him and Reb. Chaim.

If anyone can comment on information about Reb. Mordechai ZACKHEIM or
any other "Mordechais" who served in Karlin (or Pinsk) during the
third quarter of the 19th century or know of a connection between
Mordechai ZACKHEIM and Reb. Chaim I would be happy to hear >from you.

Thank you and Shabbat shalom, Chodesh Tov and Chanuka sameach.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Rabbi Mordechai "gaon Av Bet-Din" of Karlin 19th cent. #rabbinic

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

According to the diary (in hebrew) of my ggreatuncle, Reb Chaim Dov
KANTOR, of Karlin, and Shfeya (Israel), his mother's"she'er basar"
(relative) was a "gaba"d" (gaon av bet din) of Karlin during the
second half of the 19th cent. In the handwritten original diary the
family name of this Mordechai seems to be RUDINER, but researching the
various Mordechais that served in Karlin around this time it may have
been RUZINER (>from Ruzhin).

In the research I have done on Rabbi in Karlin of the 19th century I
have found no RUDINER but there was a Mordechai ZACKHEIM who served
in Karlin (or possibly Pinsk) around that time and he had served
before in Ruzhin.

There is a family tradition (legend?) that our gggreatgrandmother was
a descendant of Reb. Chaim of Volozhin and to the best of my knowledge
Reb. Mordechai ZACKHEIM also studied in Volozhin, but I don't know of
a family connection between him and Reb. Chaim.

If anyone can comment on information about Reb. Mordechai ZACKHEIM or
any other "Mordechais" who served in Karlin (or Pinsk) during the
third quarter of the 19th century or know of a connection between
Mordechai ZACKHEIM and Reb. Chaim I would be happy to hear >from you.

Thank you and Shabbat shalom, Chodesh Tov and Chanuka sameach.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem


Re: FTDNA analysis question #dna

Arline and Sidney Sachs
 

Alison,

The other comments are right. However, the two Greengards tested may only
be different on two Y-DNA markers. DYS 464 has 4 or more copies and are
listed in order of size. One mutation on one copy could change multiple
markers values. This happened in my subclade, J2b2e, when 464b, 464c and
464d was changed by a single mutation. DYS 464 and CDY are two of the
fastest mutating markers, so the STRs values you have does not rule out
your relationship with the other Greengard.

Sidney Sachs
Lorton, VA

From: Alison Greengard <aligreengard@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:57:01 +0000 (UTC

I am new to DNA anlysis and am hoping someone can solve a puzzle in my
husband's FTDNA results. My husband's last name is GREENGARD. Over the
years we have collected numerous Greengard trees (that all point to an
origin of Virbalis, Lithuania and also point to them being one family) but
have had a hard time connecting the trees. Several of the Greengard
descendants can go back to their 3rd
gr-grandfather , but with my husband Tom we can only go back to his
gr-grandfather. We've made some progress, but decided to have two male
Greengard surname descendants test their Y-DNA-37 markers at FTDNA. One
is my husband Tom and the other is another Greengard.

The results are as follows:

The other Greengard descendant shows up as a potential 2nd to 4th cousin
of Tom in Family Finder. In the actual 37 marker charts, Tom and this
other Greengard differ on DYS464c, DYS464d and DYS CDYb. This makes sense
to me.

However, another individual with a completely different surname
shows up as an exact Y-DNA37 marker match. But he and Tom do not show
up as related in Family Finder. This individual can trace his lineage via
his different surname back to the 1750's. Interestingly, this individual
traces his lineage also back to Virbalis, and his ancestors stayed with
Greengards in NY when they first come to the US.

Can anyone explain why someone with a different surname, has an exact
Y-DNA 37 marker match with my husband, can trace his lineage via that
other surname back to the 1750's, yet doesn't show up in Family
Finder? Clearly there is some tie to the Greengards since his
ancestors stayed with Greengards in NY upon emigrating.


DNA Research #DNA re: FTDNA analysis question #dna

Arline and Sidney Sachs
 

Alison,

The other comments are right. However, the two Greengards tested may only
be different on two Y-DNA markers. DYS 464 has 4 or more copies and are
listed in order of size. One mutation on one copy could change multiple
markers values. This happened in my subclade, J2b2e, when 464b, 464c and
464d was changed by a single mutation. DYS 464 and CDY are two of the
fastest mutating markers, so the STRs values you have does not rule out
your relationship with the other Greengard.

Sidney Sachs
Lorton, VA

From: Alison Greengard <aligreengard@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:57:01 +0000 (UTC

I am new to DNA anlysis and am hoping someone can solve a puzzle in my
husband's FTDNA results. My husband's last name is GREENGARD. Over the
years we have collected numerous Greengard trees (that all point to an
origin of Virbalis, Lithuania and also point to them being one family) but
have had a hard time connecting the trees. Several of the Greengard
descendants can go back to their 3rd
gr-grandfather , but with my husband Tom we can only go back to his
gr-grandfather. We've made some progress, but decided to have two male
Greengard surname descendants test their Y-DNA-37 markers at FTDNA. One
is my husband Tom and the other is another Greengard.

The results are as follows:

The other Greengard descendant shows up as a potential 2nd to 4th cousin
of Tom in Family Finder. In the actual 37 marker charts, Tom and this
other Greengard differ on DYS464c, DYS464d and DYS CDYb. This makes sense
to me.

However, another individual with a completely different surname
shows up as an exact Y-DNA37 marker match. But he and Tom do not show
up as related in Family Finder. This individual can trace his lineage via
his different surname back to the 1750's. Interestingly, this individual
traces his lineage also back to Virbalis, and his ancestors stayed with
Greengards in NY when they first come to the US.

Can anyone explain why someone with a different surname, has an exact
Y-DNA 37 marker match with my husband, can trace his lineage via that
other surname back to the 1750's, yet doesn't show up in Family
Finder? Clearly there is some tie to the Greengards since his
ancestors stayed with Greengards in NY upon emigrating.

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