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Re: Travel From Russia to Scotland in 1903 #general

A. E. Jordan
 

stanshel@msn.com writes:
I am trying to learn the path my grandparents may have taken on their journey from
Russia to Scotland in 1903. ... For the next ten years, they lived in Scotland;

Was there a big community of Eastern European Jews settling in Scotland around
this time? Why did they go to the Scotland?

One of my great great uncles family fled Courland to Scotland around this time and
stayed in Scotland for several generations.

Always been curious about this.

Allan Jordan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Travel From Russia to Scotland in 1903 #general

A. E. Jordan
 

stanshel@msn.com writes:
I am trying to learn the path my grandparents may have taken on their journey from
Russia to Scotland in 1903. ... For the next ten years, they lived in Scotland;

Was there a big community of Eastern European Jews settling in Scotland around
this time? Why did they go to the Scotland?

One of my great great uncles family fled Courland to Scotland around this time and
stayed in Scotland for several generations.

Always been curious about this.

Allan Jordan


"1908 Kiev: First Merchants' Guild--Part 1 1, R-AZ" (some: R, S, T, F, H, Z/Ts, Ch, Sh, E, Y) #ukraine

Marilyn Robinson
 

Hi All,
Many Jews are on this list. I will gladly look for "your" name, but the
surname list is limited to names beginning with the above Latin letters
ONLY. [R,S, T, F, H (only one), Z/Ts, Ch, Sh, E, Y].

There aren't any first names, only initials, and there are street
addresses with numbers.

A few of the names are:
RAYZMAN, RYBALCHIK, SALGANIK, SKOMAROVSKY, TUROVSKY, FINKILSHTEYN,
FRIDMAN, ZEITLIN, TSYPENYUK, CHOKOLOV, SHEYNBAUM, SHTOFER, EYBER,
YUZDON, YUDOVICH, YAHLES, et al.

A few of the names of streets & people are literal translations and I
don't know the Russian equivalent. Please let me/us know if you do:
Streets:
Ghost, Saviour, Forge, Catherine, "Slinky" (??), Cyril's, Constantine,
Embankment, Val, New, Blacksmithing, Beebe, Boulevard, Baptized

Names: Instant, Septer, Sores, Fleet, Jesters

Marilyn Robinson
Florida


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine "1908 Kiev: First Merchants' Guild--Part 1 1, R-AZ" (some: R, S, T, F, H, Z/Ts, Ch, Sh, E, Y) #ukraine

Marilyn Robinson
 

Hi All,
Many Jews are on this list. I will gladly look for "your" name, but the
surname list is limited to names beginning with the above Latin letters
ONLY. [R,S, T, F, H (only one), Z/Ts, Ch, Sh, E, Y].

There aren't any first names, only initials, and there are street
addresses with numbers.

A few of the names are:
RAYZMAN, RYBALCHIK, SALGANIK, SKOMAROVSKY, TUROVSKY, FINKILSHTEYN,
FRIDMAN, ZEITLIN, TSYPENYUK, CHOKOLOV, SHEYNBAUM, SHTOFER, EYBER,
YUZDON, YUDOVICH, YAHLES, et al.

A few of the names of streets & people are literal translations and I
don't know the Russian equivalent. Please let me/us know if you do:
Streets:
Ghost, Saviour, Forge, Catherine, "Slinky" (??), Cyril's, Constantine,
Embankment, Val, New, Blacksmithing, Beebe, Boulevard, Baptized

Names: Instant, Septer, Sores, Fleet, Jesters

Marilyn Robinson
Florida


Re: where is Poldarskij #general

Phyllis Kramer
 

Deborah Long asked: about Vologda...
Province/Oblast: Wologodzka
District/Region: Wielikoustiugski
Place where repression occurred: Poldarskij
I've tried using Jewishgen's Townfinder --to no avail. In a Google search, it
appeared that the province is now called "Vologda." I would appreciate any help in
identifying this location and any resources about the town's history during WWII.

deb..
there is indeed a jewishgen communities page for this shtetl.
Here's what i did:
I went to the communities search page at
http://www.jewishgen.org/communities/search.asp
and put in Vologda, which you found on Google... it led me to the Vologda page at
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~community~-3034701

Interestingly, there are only 7 JGFF matches and no nearby Jewish towns...but you
will find the history of the town, a map and several links.
good luck with your search

Isn't JewishGen wonderful!!

Phyllis Kramer, New York City, Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
V.P.Education, JewishGen Inc: www.JewishGen.org/education
Researching (all Galicia) KRAMER, BEIM >from Jasienica Rosielna
...SCHEINER, KANDEL >from Strzyzow & Dubiecko
...LINDNER, EICHEL >from Rohatyn, Burstyn
...STECHER, TRACHMAN >from Nowy Zmigrod, Dukla
family web site: www.KehilaLinks.JewishGen.org/Krosno/Kramer.htm


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: where is Poldarskij #general

Phyllis Kramer
 

Deborah Long asked: about Vologda...
Province/Oblast: Wologodzka
District/Region: Wielikoustiugski
Place where repression occurred: Poldarskij
I've tried using Jewishgen's Townfinder --to no avail. In a Google search, it
appeared that the province is now called "Vologda." I would appreciate any help in
identifying this location and any resources about the town's history during WWII.

deb..
there is indeed a jewishgen communities page for this shtetl.
Here's what i did:
I went to the communities search page at
http://www.jewishgen.org/communities/search.asp
and put in Vologda, which you found on Google... it led me to the Vologda page at
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~community~-3034701

Interestingly, there are only 7 JGFF matches and no nearby Jewish towns...but you
will find the history of the town, a map and several links.
good luck with your search

Isn't JewishGen wonderful!!

Phyllis Kramer, New York City, Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
V.P.Education, JewishGen Inc: www.JewishGen.org/education
Researching (all Galicia) KRAMER, BEIM >from Jasienica Rosielna
...SCHEINER, KANDEL >from Strzyzow & Dubiecko
...LINDNER, EICHEL >from Rohatyn, Burstyn
...STECHER, TRACHMAN >from Nowy Zmigrod, Dukla
family web site: www.KehilaLinks.JewishGen.org/Krosno/Kramer.htm


Re: Meaning of the name MOLTIANER #general

tom
 

it's only a guess, but the similarity between MOLTIANER and Moldova may be a clue,
especially if the family moved away >from Moldova. (and in the absence of town names
in that area, beginning with "mol-".)

....... tom klein, toronto

Michael Waas <mwaas1989@gmail.com> wrote:
Following up on the recent discussion the name BOLKER, I figured I would try
resending this question again after a long period of time. My great-great
grandfather Abraham SPEIGEL (born in Tulchin in Vinnitsia) was originally surnamed
MOLTIANER. >from what I can tell >from the name and its variants, they seem to all
be centered around the modern Ukranian-Moldovian border.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Meaning of the name MOLTIANER #general

tom
 

it's only a guess, but the similarity between MOLTIANER and Moldova may be a clue,
especially if the family moved away >from Moldova. (and in the absence of town names
in that area, beginning with "mol-".)

....... tom klein, toronto

Michael Waas <mwaas1989@gmail.com> wrote:
Following up on the recent discussion the name BOLKER, I figured I would try
resending this question again after a long period of time. My great-great
grandfather Abraham SPEIGEL (born in Tulchin in Vinnitsia) was originally surnamed
MOLTIANER. >from what I can tell >from the name and its variants, they seem to all
be centered around the modern Ukranian-Moldovian border.


Travel From Russia to Scotland in 1903 #general

Stanley and Shelda Sandler
 

Dear Genners,

I am trying to learn the path my grandparents may have taken on their journey >from
Russia to Scotland in 1903. According to family legend, they fled >from Russia
hidden in a hay wagon immediately following their marriage. For the next ten years,
they lived in Scotland; but how might they have traveled >from Mogilev Guberniya
(possibly >from the town of Chausy) across Europe to reach Scotland? Is there some
archive or other repository in Scotland or in England, such as the port at Hull,
Grimsby, or some other port, which would have Passenger Arrival Manifests which I
could search for information? Or perhaps they arrived in the United Kingdom via
the port of Glasgow, Scotland? Is it likely they traveled by rail, and then sailed
from some port such as Hamburg or Danzig (Gdansk)? Or is it more likely they
made the entire trip by ship? These were not wealthy people, so I am guessing they
had no choice but to travel by the least expensive means. It is assumed they
arrived in Scotland in 1903. The first documentation I have of their journey
from Russia is the birth certificate of their first child who was born in Scotland
in 1904.

Can anyone suggest where I may write in England or Scotland requesting a document
similar to a Passenger Arrival Manifest which may indicate >from which port the ship
left Russia (or a neighboring country) and where it arrived, either in England
or Scotland? On the other hand, if they traveled predominately by rail, would
there be any documentation of that?

My grandparents and their children emigrated >from Scotland to America in 1913. My
grandfather came first, followed by my grandmother and their children three months
later. I have the Passenger Arrival Manifests >from both of those voyages (sailing
from Glasgow, Scotland and arriving in New York, USA).
Any suggestions of the route they may have traveled >from Russia to Scotland in 1903
will be greatly appreciated, as will the name of any archive or repository that I
may contact.

With my greatest thanks,

Shelda Bachin Sandler
Springfield, Pennsylvania
USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Travel From Russia to Scotland in 1903 #general

Stanley and Shelda Sandler
 

Dear Genners,

I am trying to learn the path my grandparents may have taken on their journey >from
Russia to Scotland in 1903. According to family legend, they fled >from Russia
hidden in a hay wagon immediately following their marriage. For the next ten years,
they lived in Scotland; but how might they have traveled >from Mogilev Guberniya
(possibly >from the town of Chausy) across Europe to reach Scotland? Is there some
archive or other repository in Scotland or in England, such as the port at Hull,
Grimsby, or some other port, which would have Passenger Arrival Manifests which I
could search for information? Or perhaps they arrived in the United Kingdom via
the port of Glasgow, Scotland? Is it likely they traveled by rail, and then sailed
from some port such as Hamburg or Danzig (Gdansk)? Or is it more likely they
made the entire trip by ship? These were not wealthy people, so I am guessing they
had no choice but to travel by the least expensive means. It is assumed they
arrived in Scotland in 1903. The first documentation I have of their journey
from Russia is the birth certificate of their first child who was born in Scotland
in 1904.

Can anyone suggest where I may write in England or Scotland requesting a document
similar to a Passenger Arrival Manifest which may indicate >from which port the ship
left Russia (or a neighboring country) and where it arrived, either in England
or Scotland? On the other hand, if they traveled predominately by rail, would
there be any documentation of that?

My grandparents and their children emigrated >from Scotland to America in 1913. My
grandfather came first, followed by my grandmother and their children three months
later. I have the Passenger Arrival Manifests >from both of those voyages (sailing
from Glasgow, Scotland and arriving in New York, USA).
Any suggestions of the route they may have traveled >from Russia to Scotland in 1903
will be greatly appreciated, as will the name of any archive or repository that I
may contact.

With my greatest thanks,

Shelda Bachin Sandler
Springfield, Pennsylvania
USA


Re: "1908 Kiev: First Merchants' Guild--Part 1 1, R-AZ" (some: R, S, T, F, H, Z/Ts, Ch, Sh, E, Y) #general

Alexander Sharon <olek.sharon@...>
 


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: "1908 Kiev: First Merchants' Guild--Part 1 1, R-AZ" (some: R, S, T, F, H, Z/Ts, Ch, Sh, E, Y) #general

Alexander Sharon <olek.sharon@...>
 


Palestine Police Records #general

John Berkeley <gluckpast@...>
 

My sincere thanks to all those who kindly responded to my appeal for information on
where to look for records of those who served with the Jewish section of the
Palestine Police. I've pursued all of the avenues suggested, although without too
much luck so far.

For the benefit of anyone with a similar interest, the British Empire and
Commonwealth Museum, which had some relevant archives, has now closed and in due
course their holdings will be looked after by the Bristol Museums Service. I am
waiting to hear when these might once again be accessed. The archives held by St
Antony's College, Oxford certainly include record cards for the Palestine Police.
However, a search by their most helpful Archivist failed to produce anything as,
apparently, many records were simply destroyed after those concerned had left the
service, although they do have records covering the post-war period.

I'll continue to pursue this and will report any success.

John Berkeley (previously Berkovic)
Warwick, UK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Palestine Police Records #general

John Berkeley <gluckpast@...>
 

My sincere thanks to all those who kindly responded to my appeal for information on
where to look for records of those who served with the Jewish section of the
Palestine Police. I've pursued all of the avenues suggested, although without too
much luck so far.

For the benefit of anyone with a similar interest, the British Empire and
Commonwealth Museum, which had some relevant archives, has now closed and in due
course their holdings will be looked after by the Bristol Museums Service. I am
waiting to hear when these might once again be accessed. The archives held by St
Antony's College, Oxford certainly include record cards for the Palestine Police.
However, a search by their most helpful Archivist failed to produce anything as,
apparently, many records were simply destroyed after those concerned had left the
service, although they do have records covering the post-war period.

I'll continue to pursue this and will report any success.

John Berkeley (previously Berkovic)
Warwick, UK


Re: Adler from Romania to Pittsburgh PA #romania

Israel P
 

Debbie, there are probably 1800 Brenners in Israel. Can you narrow this
down? Where did she live? What are her parents' names? What kind of age
are we talking about?

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem
(grew up in Pittsburgh)

On 30 Jan 2013 at 0:04, Romania SIG digest wrote:

I have recently been using the Posner Memorial Collection of Jewish
Newspapers >from Pittsburgh PA. This wonderful free data base has
provided me with numerous obituaries and articles about my ancestors
who came to America around the turn of the 20th Century >from Romania.
Today I found an article >from The Jewish Criterion >from December 1958.
It was an article wherein a woman named Rachel Adler Brenner from
Israel was seeking her brothers Dave, Sam and Strul-Hers (that's what
it says) Adler who had moved >from Herta Romania to Pittsburgh. She was
also seeking an Uncle Wolf Hilenbrand. Unfortunately Mrs. Brenner was
several decades too late as all her brothers, their Uncle and cousins
were all dead by 1958. I assume that Mrs. Brenner is also gone but
perhaps she has family who are still interested in her family in the
US. David Adler was my Great Grandfather and I have quite a bit of
information on my family once they arrived in the US. I would be
interested in finding others >from our family.


Romania SIG #Romania Re: Adler from Romania to Pittsburgh PA #romania

Israel P
 

Debbie, there are probably 1800 Brenners in Israel. Can you narrow this
down? Where did she live? What are her parents' names? What kind of age
are we talking about?

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem
(grew up in Pittsburgh)

On 30 Jan 2013 at 0:04, Romania SIG digest wrote:

I have recently been using the Posner Memorial Collection of Jewish
Newspapers >from Pittsburgh PA. This wonderful free data base has
provided me with numerous obituaries and articles about my ancestors
who came to America around the turn of the 20th Century >from Romania.
Today I found an article >from The Jewish Criterion >from December 1958.
It was an article wherein a woman named Rachel Adler Brenner from
Israel was seeking her brothers Dave, Sam and Strul-Hers (that's what
it says) Adler who had moved >from Herta Romania to Pittsburgh. She was
also seeking an Uncle Wolf Hilenbrand. Unfortunately Mrs. Brenner was
several decades too late as all her brothers, their Uncle and cousins
were all dead by 1958. I assume that Mrs. Brenner is also gone but
perhaps she has family who are still interested in her family in the
US. David Adler was my Great Grandfather and I have quite a bit of
information on my family once they arrived in the US. I would be
interested in finding others >from our family.


Viewmate translation needed - German #germany

rickglaser@...
 

I have posted posted two items, this one and also #25678.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM25672

I would appreciate a transcription and a translation. They are postcards
from my father's gf and uncles who were in Hodonin to him. At the time of
the cards he was in Lausanne finishing up his medical studies.

I will be posting a few additional postcards through 1941, when they were
all deported and perished. Thanks

Rick Glaser, Owings Mills Maryland RickGlaser@aol.com

Thank those who help you and support ViewMate, GerSIG and JewishGen
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


German SIG #Germany Viewmate translation needed - German #germany

rickglaser@...
 

I have posted posted two items, this one and also #25678.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM25672

I would appreciate a transcription and a translation. They are postcards
from my father's gf and uncles who were in Hodonin to him. At the time of
the cards he was in Lausanne finishing up his medical studies.

I will be posting a few additional postcards through 1941, when they were
all deported and perished. Thanks

Rick Glaser, Owings Mills Maryland RickGlaser@aol.com

Thank those who help you and support ViewMate, GerSIG and JewishGen
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Re: Memorial Plaques #general

rv Kaplan
 

In Scotland, many synagogues have/had memorial boards listing congregants' deceased
parents and family members. The Scottish Jewish Archives Centre in Glasgow
(www.sjac.org.uk ) has photographs of a number of these boards, listing around
2,500 people. One of the main advantages here is that Hebrew names are usually
listed (including father's Hebrew name), which are often difficult to find, other
than on tombstones.

Harvey L Kaplan

Glasgow

Henriette Moed Roth <hennynow@pacbell.net> wrote:
Thank you to Sandy Aaronson for pointing out the usefulness of checking synagogue
memorial plaques in the U.S. I, for one, have been saving the yearly little
memorial prayer books printed by my current synagogue, Temple Beth Am of Los
Angeles, as well as my previous affiliation with Beth David Congregation in Miami,
Florida. I have now found some family members listed in the Miami books whom I was
not aware of when I lived there.

MODERATOR: The JewishGen Memorial Plaques Database is a database of more than 9,000
names and other information >from synagogue yahrzeit plaques and other memorial
records, worldwide. For information about how to donate information >from your
synagogue, or to look at the database, go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Memorial Plaques #general

rv Kaplan
 

In Scotland, many synagogues have/had memorial boards listing congregants' deceased
parents and family members. The Scottish Jewish Archives Centre in Glasgow
(www.sjac.org.uk ) has photographs of a number of these boards, listing around
2,500 people. One of the main advantages here is that Hebrew names are usually
listed (including father's Hebrew name), which are often difficult to find, other
than on tombstones.

Harvey L Kaplan

Glasgow

Henriette Moed Roth <hennynow@pacbell.net> wrote:
Thank you to Sandy Aaronson for pointing out the usefulness of checking synagogue
memorial plaques in the U.S. I, for one, have been saving the yearly little
memorial prayer books printed by my current synagogue, Temple Beth Am of Los
Angeles, as well as my previous affiliation with Beth David Congregation in Miami,
Florida. I have now found some family members listed in the Miami books whom I was
not aware of when I lived there.

MODERATOR: The JewishGen Memorial Plaques Database is a database of more than 9,000
names and other information >from synagogue yahrzeit plaques and other memorial
records, worldwide. For information about how to donate information >from your
synagogue, or to look at the database, go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/

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