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Age for conscription in bessarabia 1923 #bessarabia

Joel Waters <watersjd@...>
 

Bob:

Excellent question. Unfortunately I can only offer anecdotal information, but please let me know
if you come up with a definitive answer. I am interested.

from the memoir "Our House in Leova" by Jacob Baltzan
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Leova/leo000.html

The Author notes that he was born May 19, 1872. And then later in the text writes the following
concerning conscription.

"In the draft in our town, which was in September of 1893, I drew a small number and was taken
as a solider. They gave us a month free before we had to report in October of the same year."

So Mr. Baltzan was a few months past 21 y.o. when he was drafted in 1893.
******************

My own Grandfather also used fake travel documents to leave Bessarabia and avoid conscription.
I am lucky enough to have obtain the falsified passport application, so I know exactly when he left.
The passport was issued June 4 1920, and he left Bessarabia a few days later. His date of birth Is
more of a mystery. His citizenship paperwork lists a DoB of Dec 3, 1900. His Social Security app
shows a DoB of June 24, 1901, and his family celebrated his birthdate as June 14, 1901.

Of course, what I don't know is whether he had already been conscripted or left because he was
anticipating being drafted in the near future.

Joel Waters
Researching WASSERMAN family >from Leova, Bessarabia


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Age for conscription in bessarabia 1923 #bessarabia

Joel Waters <watersjd@...>
 

Bob:

Excellent question. Unfortunately I can only offer anecdotal information, but please let me know
if you come up with a definitive answer. I am interested.

from the memoir "Our House in Leova" by Jacob Baltzan
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Leova/leo000.html

The Author notes that he was born May 19, 1872. And then later in the text writes the following
concerning conscription.

"In the draft in our town, which was in September of 1893, I drew a small number and was taken
as a solider. They gave us a month free before we had to report in October of the same year."

So Mr. Baltzan was a few months past 21 y.o. when he was drafted in 1893.
******************

My own Grandfather also used fake travel documents to leave Bessarabia and avoid conscription.
I am lucky enough to have obtain the falsified passport application, so I know exactly when he left.
The passport was issued June 4 1920, and he left Bessarabia a few days later. His date of birth Is
more of a mystery. His citizenship paperwork lists a DoB of Dec 3, 1900. His Social Security app
shows a DoB of June 24, 1901, and his family celebrated his birthdate as June 14, 1901.

Of course, what I don't know is whether he had already been conscripted or left because he was
anticipating being drafted in the near future.

Joel Waters
Researching WASSERMAN family >from Leova, Bessarabia


Re: Female name Sela and Sihardis? (Cologne, 13th century) with a SITE CITE #germany

Roger Lustig
 

Tobias:
This won't be a complete answer to your question, but I was happy to
find the following:

http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/jewish.shtml

This contains several interesting lists. The one on names in Hebrew
chronicles (10th-13thC) does mention Alexander, so there's one part of
your answer. Alechsandri ben Moshe died in Germany in 1147.

"Neshama" (soul/spirit) is certainly a modern Hebrew woman's name, but I
can't say how early it appears.

This might be a topic for the JewishGen general list, [JGDG - Jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org]
given that there were many connections between German Jews and those in France, Italy
and other countries.

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA research coordinator, GerSIG

Earlier today 10/19/2013 3:16 PM, Tobias A. Kemper asked about the use
of certain names in 11 - 15th century Europe.
............> My question to the GerSiggers:
Is there any reference for a Jewish name "Sela" in the middle ages (or
for the yiddish or hebrew equivalent of "soul")? If yes, where and when?
Was "Alexander" used in medieval Jewish families in Germany?
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German SIG #Germany Re: Female name Sela and Sihardis? (Cologne, 13th century) with a SITE CITE #germany

Roger Lustig
 

Tobias:
This won't be a complete answer to your question, but I was happy to
find the following:

http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/jewish.shtml

This contains several interesting lists. The one on names in Hebrew
chronicles (10th-13thC) does mention Alexander, so there's one part of
your answer. Alechsandri ben Moshe died in Germany in 1147.

"Neshama" (soul/spirit) is certainly a modern Hebrew woman's name, but I
can't say how early it appears.

This might be a topic for the JewishGen general list, [JGDG - Jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org]
given that there were many connections between German Jews and those in France, Italy
and other countries.

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA research coordinator, GerSIG

Earlier today 10/19/2013 3:16 PM, Tobias A. Kemper asked about the use
of certain names in 11 - 15th century Europe.
............> My question to the GerSiggers:
Is there any reference for a Jewish name "Sela" in the middle ages (or
for the yiddish or hebrew equivalent of "soul")? If yes, where and when?
Was "Alexander" used in medieval Jewish families in Germany?
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Be sure to send a copy of your comments to <kemper@lenz-kemper.de>


Holocaust Database #general

Lande
 

Thanks to the efforts of over a dozen volunteers for over several months, we
have assembled 32,500 names of Holocaust victims and survivors in the
"German Jews 1933" database available on Steve Morse's One-Step WebPages.
So far we have entered the names of Jews resident in 1933 in several dozen
West German towns >from Aachen through Moers. This information came >from
towns in what was West Germany, but many of the persons listed were born
elsewhere in Germany and non-German places ranging >from Chicago to Riga and
Odessa. While the largest number emigrated to England, the United States
and Israel. some went elsewhere, including to Australia, South Africa,
Canada, and Latin America.

We are taking a break >from data entry for a few months but will resume our
work next year with the rest of the alphabet. In the meantine I would be
interested in any feedback >from persons who found this database useful.

Peter Lande
Washington, D.C.

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Holocaust Database #general

Lande
 

Thanks to the efforts of over a dozen volunteers for over several months, we
have assembled 32,500 names of Holocaust victims and survivors in the
"German Jews 1933" database available on Steve Morse's One-Step WebPages.
So far we have entered the names of Jews resident in 1933 in several dozen
West German towns >from Aachen through Moers. This information came >from
towns in what was West Germany, but many of the persons listed were born
elsewhere in Germany and non-German places ranging >from Chicago to Riga and
Odessa. While the largest number emigrated to England, the United States
and Israel. some went elsewhere, including to Australia, South Africa,
Canada, and Latin America.

We are taking a break >from data entry for a few months but will resume our
work next year with the rest of the alphabet. In the meantine I would be
interested in any feedback >from persons who found this database useful.

Peter Lande
Washington, D.C.

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond to Peter, directly, with feedback on the database.


Researching the surname GUTTMACHER, GUTMACHER, GUTMAKER and GUTMAKHER #germany

Caryn
 

Dear Genners,
I'm researching the surname GUTTMACHER (also GUTMACHER, GUTMAKER and
GUTMAKHER), my mother's family, originally >from Teplik, Russia, now Ukraine.
FamilyFinder has enabled me to connect with cousins in Philadelphia and very
recently, cousins >from Warsaw, Poland. 

**** While we're not certain, there is a possibility **** that we may all be descended
from one family that includes Rabbi Elijahu Guttmacher, who was born in Borek,
Posen (Poznan) eastern Germany (now Poland) and known as the Tzadik of Grätz.

If you are a descendant of a Guttmacher, Gutmacher, Gutmaker or Gutmakher,
I would love to hear >from you.  Please contact me off-list.

Caryn Levinson USA

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the JGDG and every JewishGen SIG list.


German SIG #Germany Researching the surname GUTTMACHER, GUTMACHER, GUTMAKER and GUTMAKHER #germany

Caryn
 

Dear Genners,
I'm researching the surname GUTTMACHER (also GUTMACHER, GUTMAKER and
GUTMAKHER), my mother's family, originally >from Teplik, Russia, now Ukraine.
FamilyFinder has enabled me to connect with cousins in Philadelphia and very
recently, cousins >from Warsaw, Poland. 

**** While we're not certain, there is a possibility **** that we may all be descended
from one family that includes Rabbi Elijahu Guttmacher, who was born in Borek,
Posen (Poznan) eastern Germany (now Poland) and known as the Tzadik of Grätz.

If you are a descendant of a Guttmacher, Gutmacher, Gutmaker or Gutmakher,
I would love to hear >from you.  Please contact me off-list.

Caryn Levinson USA

MODERATOR NOTE: Emphasis **** added by moderator. This message was sent to
the JGDG and every JewishGen SIG list.


Researching the surnames GUTTMACHER, GUTMACHER, GUTMAKER and GUTMAKHER #belarus

Caryn
 

Dear Genners,I'm researching the surname GUTTMACHER (also GUTMACHER,
GUTMAKER and GUTMAKHER), my mother's family, originally >from Teplik,
Russia, now Ukraine.FamilyFinder has enabled me to connect with my cousins
in Philadelphia and very recently, cousins >from Warsaw, Poland.
While we're not certain,there is a possibility that we (especially those
families >from the Pale) may all be descended >from one family that includes
Rabbi Elijahu GUTTMACHE, who was born in Borek, Posen (Poznan) eastern Germany
(now Poland) and known as the Tzadik of Grtz.If you are a descendant of
GUTTMACHER, GUTMACHER, GUTMAKER or GUTMAKHER,I would love to hear >from you.

Please contact me off-list.
Caryn Levinson, USA


Belarus SIG #Belarus Researching the surnames GUTTMACHER, GUTMACHER, GUTMAKER and GUTMAKHER #belarus

Caryn
 

Dear Genners,I'm researching the surname GUTTMACHER (also GUTMACHER,
GUTMAKER and GUTMAKHER), my mother's family, originally >from Teplik,
Russia, now Ukraine.FamilyFinder has enabled me to connect with my cousins
in Philadelphia and very recently, cousins >from Warsaw, Poland.
While we're not certain,there is a possibility that we (especially those
families >from the Pale) may all be descended >from one family that includes
Rabbi Elijahu GUTTMACHE, who was born in Borek, Posen (Poznan) eastern Germany
(now Poland) and known as the Tzadik of Grtz.If you are a descendant of
GUTTMACHER, GUTMACHER, GUTMAKER or GUTMAKHER,I would love to hear >from you.

Please contact me off-list.
Caryn Levinson, USA


Searching: Bertha LEVIN #belarus

Dror
 

Shalom,
I try to trace my great aunt Bertha (Bassie) LEVIN (Levine) who lived in
Montreal Canada.
Maybe her husband was called Hirsch or Girsh - Gershel / Hershel LEVIN.
Bertha's daughter named was Maria (Marusia).
Bertha and her family were originally >from Belarus. Bertha was a high school
teacher of literature and was specialist mainly in Russian literature.
Perhaps, they lived in a suburb or town outside the city.
Thanks and Shabbat Shalom,

Dror Voichansky,
Israel
dvi@mh.org.il
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Searching: Bertha LEVIN #belarus

Dror
 

Shalom,
I try to trace my great aunt Bertha (Bassie) LEVIN (Levine) who lived in
Montreal Canada.
Maybe her husband was called Hirsch or Girsh - Gershel / Hershel LEVIN.
Bertha's daughter named was Maria (Marusia).
Bertha and her family were originally >from Belarus. Bertha was a high school
teacher of literature and was specialist mainly in Russian literature.
Perhaps, they lived in a suburb or town outside the city.
Thanks and Shabbat Shalom,

Dror Voichansky,
Israel
dvi@mh.org.il
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reply privately with family information


Beniaminovich / Bonevich #belarus

Israel P
 

There are two Zalman Rosenblium listed among the 1906 Duma voters in
Borisov (Belarus).

One has the patronymic Beniaminovich and the other Bonevich. The first is
clearly Benyamin and the second sounds like Bunem, a diminuitive of
Binyamin.

Would these be two people or the same person twice?

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem


Belarus SIG #Belarus Beniaminovich / Bonevich #belarus

Israel P
 

There are two Zalman Rosenblium listed among the 1906 Duma voters in
Borisov (Belarus).

One has the patronymic Beniaminovich and the other Bonevich. The first is
clearly Benyamin and the second sounds like Bunem, a diminuitive of
Binyamin.

Would these be two people or the same person twice?

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem


Emily COHEN BELL 1903-1987 Searching for Jewish relatives of Grandmother (COHEN and DANA) #general

Gay Taweel <gaytaweel@...>
 

Hello,

I have no idea if my grandmother, Emily COHEN BELL, had any siblings, nephews,
nieces etc.

I am sure someone in Haifa may know her family tree. Thru my late uncle Jack
BELL [All her children passed away; the last was my mother in 2010].

I was told Emily COHEN comes >from a very good prominent Cohen family in Haifa.
Her mother's maiden name is >from the DANA family, I believe.

Info about my Grandmother Emily COHEN BELL Bell - 1903-1987
-At age of 14 she married to a non-Jewish, American Grandfather, Roberts
Smith Bell.
-Widowed at age of 34/35.
-She had four children, Jack Robert Smith Bell, Janie, Myra (my mother who
attended a nuns Carmelite school in Haifa) and Gladys.
-Died in 1987 - her final years where in a German hospice/retirement home in
Haifa.

Info about my Grandfather Roberts Smith Bell - 1883-1937
-Born in Philadelphia, USA 1883.
-He helped engineer the Hejaz railway to Jordan >from Israel, I think.
-He met Lawrence of Arabia.
-Died 1937 in Haifa and was buried in an Anglican/British Haifa cemetery. My
mother was 14 at the time.

I am only interested to learn and contact via email Jewish COHEN/DANA
Relatives in Israel.

I have all the Bell family connection thru cousins.

Thank you
Gay Taweel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Emily COHEN BELL 1903-1987 Searching for Jewish relatives of Grandmother (COHEN and DANA) #general

Gay Taweel <gaytaweel@...>
 

Hello,

I have no idea if my grandmother, Emily COHEN BELL, had any siblings, nephews,
nieces etc.

I am sure someone in Haifa may know her family tree. Thru my late uncle Jack
BELL [All her children passed away; the last was my mother in 2010].

I was told Emily COHEN comes >from a very good prominent Cohen family in Haifa.
Her mother's maiden name is >from the DANA family, I believe.

Info about my Grandmother Emily COHEN BELL Bell - 1903-1987
-At age of 14 she married to a non-Jewish, American Grandfather, Roberts
Smith Bell.
-Widowed at age of 34/35.
-She had four children, Jack Robert Smith Bell, Janie, Myra (my mother who
attended a nuns Carmelite school in Haifa) and Gladys.
-Died in 1987 - her final years where in a German hospice/retirement home in
Haifa.

Info about my Grandfather Roberts Smith Bell - 1883-1937
-Born in Philadelphia, USA 1883.
-He helped engineer the Hejaz railway to Jordan >from Israel, I think.
-He met Lawrence of Arabia.
-Died 1937 in Haifa and was buried in an Anglican/British Haifa cemetery. My
mother was 14 at the time.

I am only interested to learn and contact via email Jewish COHEN/DANA
Relatives in Israel.

I have all the Bell family connection thru cousins.

Thank you
Gay Taweel


Researching the surnames GUTTMACHER, GUTMACHER, GUTMAKER and GUTMAKHER #general

Caryn
 

Dear Genners,
I'm researching the surname GUTTMACHER (also GUTMACHER, GUTMAKER and GUTMAKHER),
my mother's family, originally >from Teplik, Russia, now Ukraine. FamilyFinder
has enabled me to connect with my cousins in Philadelphia and very recently,
cousins >from Warsaw, Poland.

While we're not certain, there is a possibility that we (especially those
families >from the Pale) may all be descended >from one family that includes
Rabbi Elijahu GUTTMACHER, who was born in Borek, Posen (Poznan) eastern
Germany (now Poland) and known as the Tzadik of Grätz.

If you are a descendant of a GUTTMACHER, GUTMACHER, GUTMAKER or GUTMAKHER,
I would love to hear >from you.

Please contact me off-list.

Caryn Levinson
USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Researching the surnames GUTTMACHER, GUTMACHER, GUTMAKER and GUTMAKHER #general

Caryn
 

Dear Genners,
I'm researching the surname GUTTMACHER (also GUTMACHER, GUTMAKER and GUTMAKHER),
my mother's family, originally >from Teplik, Russia, now Ukraine. FamilyFinder
has enabled me to connect with my cousins in Philadelphia and very recently,
cousins >from Warsaw, Poland.

While we're not certain, there is a possibility that we (especially those
families >from the Pale) may all be descended >from one family that includes
Rabbi Elijahu GUTTMACHER, who was born in Borek, Posen (Poznan) eastern
Germany (now Poland) and known as the Tzadik of Grätz.

If you are a descendant of a GUTTMACHER, GUTMACHER, GUTMAKER or GUTMAKHER,
I would love to hear >from you.

Please contact me off-list.

Caryn Levinson
USA


Researching the surnames Guttmacher, Gutmacher, Gutmaker and Gutmakher #france

Caryn
 

Dear Genners,

I'm researching the surname Guttmacher (also Gutmacher, Gutmaker and Gutmakher),
my mother's family, originally >from Teplik, Russia, now Ukraine.

FamilyFinder has enabled me to connect with my cousins in Philadelphia and very
recently, cousins >from Warsaw, Poland.

While we're not certain, there is a possibility that we (especially those families >from the Pale) may all be descended >from one family that includes Rabbi Elijahu Guttmacher, who was born in Borek, Posen (Poznan) eastern Germany (now Poland) and known as the Tzadik of Gratz.
If you are a descendant of a “Guttmacher, Gutmacher, Gutmaker or Gutmakher,”
I would love to hear >from you.

Please contact me off-list.

Caryn Levinson, USA


French SIG #France Researching the surnames Guttmacher, Gutmacher, Gutmaker and Gutmakher #france

Caryn
 

Dear Genners,

I'm researching the surname Guttmacher (also Gutmacher, Gutmaker and Gutmakher),
my mother's family, originally >from Teplik, Russia, now Ukraine.

FamilyFinder has enabled me to connect with my cousins in Philadelphia and very
recently, cousins >from Warsaw, Poland.

While we're not certain, there is a possibility that we (especially those families >from the Pale) may all be descended >from one family that includes Rabbi Elijahu Guttmacher, who was born in Borek, Posen (Poznan) eastern Germany (now Poland) and known as the Tzadik of Gratz.
If you are a descendant of a “Guttmacher, Gutmacher, Gutmaker or Gutmakher,”
I would love to hear >from you.

Please contact me off-list.

Caryn Levinson, USA

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