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Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Nate Shlomo Schlissel from Munkatch #rabbinic

Al Silberman <alsilberman@...>
 

In several seforim >from Nate Shlomo Schlissel (Schlussel) of Munkatch there
is a genealogical note saying that he is a descendant of the First Rabbi
Akiva Eiger (>from Pressburg). Does anyone know the exact link?

Moshe Silberman
Monsey, NY.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The HIRSCH Family of Brooklyn, NY: Final Resting Places Found #general

jack haines <hainesjack44@...>
 

Regarding my post on April 22nd searching for the final resting places
of my great-great-grandfather, Herman HIRSCH, and his wife, Mirianna,
and my great-grandmother, Florence MAYERS (née HIRSCH) . . .

I would like to publicly thank Allan Jordan and Yehudah ben Shlomo for
leading me to their final resting places. Had it not been for these
two gentlemen, I would still be searching.

Allan and Yehudah, again, thank you for kindness. In gratitude, I am
indebted to you both for solving this mystery and for putting my mind
at rest.

Blessings,

Jack Haines
LaSalle, Quebec
E-mail: jgsmhaines@...
bombog@...


The HIRSCH Family of Brooklyn, NY: Final Resting Places Found #general

jack haines <hainesjack44@...>
 

Regarding my post on April 22nd searching for the final resting places
of my great-great-grandfather, Herman HIRSCH, and his wife, Mirianna,
and my great-grandmother, Florence MAYERS (née HIRSCH) . . .

I would like to publicly thank Allan Jordan and Yehudah ben Shlomo for
leading me to their final resting places. Had it not been for these
two gentlemen, I would still be searching.

Allan and Yehudah, again, thank you for kindness. In gratitude, I am
indebted to you both for solving this mystery and for putting my mind
at rest.

Blessings,

Jack Haines
LaSalle, Quebec
E-mail: jgsmhaines@...
bombog@...


Nate Shlomo Schlissel from Munkatch #rabbinic

Al Silberman <alsilberman@...>
 

In several seforim >from Nate Shlomo Schlissel (Schlussel) of Munkatch there
is a genealogical note saying that he is a descendant of the First Rabbi
Akiva Eiger (>from Pressburg). Does anyone know the exact link?

Moshe Silberman
Monsey, NY.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Cholera Epidemic #general

Ami Elyasaf
 

According to Brody's death records (deciphered by Brody volunteers and
can be searched at search.geshergalicia.org) , the 19th century full
death picture is as follows:

Years Deaths
1816-1820 3373
1821-1825 4159
1826-1830 2792 Records >from 1-Jan-1827 to 16-Mar-1829 are missing
1831-1835 6032
1836-1840 3745
1841-1845 3892
1846-1850 5037
1851-1855 5368
1856-1860 2870
1861 165

Ami Elyasaf


Re: Cholera Epidemic #galicia

Ami Elyasaf
 

According to Brody's death records (deciphered by Brody volunteers and
can be searched at search.geshergalicia.org) , the 19th century full
death picture is as follows:

Years Deaths
1816-1820 3373
1821-1825 4159
1826-1830 2792 Records >from 1-Jan-1827 to 16-Mar-1829 are missing
1831-1835 6032
1836-1840 3745
1841-1845 3892
1846-1850 5037
1851-1855 5368
1856-1860 2870
1861 165

Ami Elyasaf


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Challenge find my great grandparents NYC marriage #general

Rita Margolies
 

Response to Allan Jordan and his search for his great grandparents' marriage
certificate. I searched for 15 years for my grandparents' marriage
certificate. I knew they were married because there was a divorce
proceeding. I had always assumed the my grandfather's name was Scher and my
grandmother's name was Roth, which is what had been used for years and both
had been here a few years by the time they married. I used the bride and
groom indexes on Italian Genealogy to search, but no luck. Finally I decided
to use Rothang, which was my gm's birth name, and there she was! It was
amazing. I just assumed they were using their American names, but I guess
for something so legal they decided to use their original birth names. My gf
was listed as Shur, but on the wedding certificate that last name was
spelled three different ways. My suggestion is to use the birth name with as
many variations as possible for both the given and surname, and use the
bride and groom indexes. I was never able to find these people in the census
anywhere under any name. My husband's theory is that they were spies and
eradicated all record of their existence<g>.

Rita Margolies


Re: Challenge find my great grandparents NYC marriage #general

Rita Margolies
 

Response to Allan Jordan and his search for his great grandparents' marriage
certificate. I searched for 15 years for my grandparents' marriage
certificate. I knew they were married because there was a divorce
proceeding. I had always assumed the my grandfather's name was Scher and my
grandmother's name was Roth, which is what had been used for years and both
had been here a few years by the time they married. I used the bride and
groom indexes on Italian Genealogy to search, but no luck. Finally I decided
to use Rothang, which was my gm's birth name, and there she was! It was
amazing. I just assumed they were using their American names, but I guess
for something so legal they decided to use their original birth names. My gf
was listed as Shur, but on the wedding certificate that last name was
spelled three different ways. My suggestion is to use the birth name with as
many variations as possible for both the given and surname, and use the
bride and groom indexes. I was never able to find these people in the census
anywhere under any name. My husband's theory is that they were spies and
eradicated all record of their existence<g>.

Rita Margolies


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen a post WWII mystery from France #general

Janette <janettes@...>
 

My recently discovered French relatives in Nancy, France described some
of what happened to their Samuel family during the war. I am not
looking for Page of Testimony - I have all those pertinent to these
families. I have been in touch with Yad Vashem and they sent me the ITS
information they had. The information I am looking for deals very
specifically with Blanche Samuel.

What I know is as follows:
Blanche Samuel was born on January 15, 1920 in Rambervillers, Vosges,
France. Her parents were Lucien Samuel and Renee Abraham (or Avraham).
She, along with two of her siblings and her parents were on Transport
71 >from Drancy to Auschwitz on April 13, 1944. ITS documents report
that she was in Bergen Belsen but lost track of her on April 19, 1945.
Other ITS documents report that she died between April 19, 1945 and May
1, 1945.

The family received a letter >from Blanche dated April 28, 1945 and
postmarked >from Hazebrouck May 7, 1945. In that letter, Blanche said
that she was alive after a year of extreme hardship and that she hoped
to be with the family soon, perhaps within a couple of weeks. I don't
have a time framework of what happened next. Blanche's sister-in-law
(my relative Andree) said that Blanche;s uncle went to meet a train on
which she was expected to arrive at Gare de l'Est in Paris, and she was
not on it. The uncle spoke to one of Blanche's friends who was on the
train and she said that Blanche was coming ont he next train. She was
never heard >from again.

I am open to suggestions of where to look.

Thanks for your help
Janette Silverman
Phoenix, Arizona


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Foreign Jews Living in Havana 1939-1941 #general

Alan Mandl
 

I am interested in locating any
lists or records of foreign Jews who lived
in Havana, Cuba between 1939-1941.
My father lived there >from March 31, 1939
to February 1939, arriving in New York
City on February 17, 1941.

Thanks,

Alan Mandl
Wayland, MA


a post WWII mystery from France #general

Janette <janettes@...>
 

My recently discovered French relatives in Nancy, France described some
of what happened to their Samuel family during the war. I am not
looking for Page of Testimony - I have all those pertinent to these
families. I have been in touch with Yad Vashem and they sent me the ITS
information they had. The information I am looking for deals very
specifically with Blanche Samuel.

What I know is as follows:
Blanche Samuel was born on January 15, 1920 in Rambervillers, Vosges,
France. Her parents were Lucien Samuel and Renee Abraham (or Avraham).
She, along with two of her siblings and her parents were on Transport
71 >from Drancy to Auschwitz on April 13, 1944. ITS documents report
that she was in Bergen Belsen but lost track of her on April 19, 1945.
Other ITS documents report that she died between April 19, 1945 and May
1, 1945.

The family received a letter >from Blanche dated April 28, 1945 and
postmarked >from Hazebrouck May 7, 1945. In that letter, Blanche said
that she was alive after a year of extreme hardship and that she hoped
to be with the family soon, perhaps within a couple of weeks. I don't
have a time framework of what happened next. Blanche's sister-in-law
(my relative Andree) said that Blanche;s uncle went to meet a train on
which she was expected to arrive at Gare de l'Est in Paris, and she was
not on it. The uncle spoke to one of Blanche's friends who was on the
train and she said that Blanche was coming ont he next train. She was
never heard >from again.

I am open to suggestions of where to look.

Thanks for your help
Janette Silverman
Phoenix, Arizona


Foreign Jews Living in Havana 1939-1941 #general

Alan Mandl
 

I am interested in locating any
lists or records of foreign Jews who lived
in Havana, Cuba between 1939-1941.
My father lived there >from March 31, 1939
to February 1939, arriving in New York
City on February 17, 1941.

Thanks,

Alan Mandl
Wayland, MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bordeaux to Cuba 1939 Passenger List #general

Alan Mandl
 

My father sailed >from Bordeaux to Cuba
on March 14, 1939 on CGT's liner
SS De La Salle and landed on
March 31, 1939, at Santiago de Cuba.
I am interested in any suggestions
on locating the passenger list, especially
passengers whose destination also
was Cuba.

Thanks,

Alan Mandl
Wayland, MA


Bordeaux to Cuba 1939 Passenger List #general

Alan Mandl
 

My father sailed >from Bordeaux to Cuba
on March 14, 1939 on CGT's liner
SS De La Salle and landed on
March 31, 1939, at Santiago de Cuba.
I am interested in any suggestions
on locating the passenger list, especially
passengers whose destination also
was Cuba.

Thanks,

Alan Mandl
Wayland, MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Spanish Name Changes #general

Shmuel fisher <shmuel@...>
 

Hi Y'all,

I think that I have an interesting story and an associated problem.

Out of the clear blue sky my first cousin emails me with the information
that our grandmother (Gitlya ) >from Kishinev Bessarabia was leaving the
country about 190? With her husband Joseph Rothpan and *her* sister's family.
However Gitlya's son Sam had pick eye and they couldn't get on the ship.
Her sister's family did get on and the ship went off to Argentina. The
Rothpans got on the next ship and that ship went to Canada. And that is how
my paternal family wound up in Montreal.

When I asked my cousin how she knew this information and did she have more,
the answer was no.

So I looked at the Bessarabian records and found my grandmother's birth
record and her marriage to my grandfather ( not Joe Rothpan).(I can't find
her marriage to Rothpan.) I knew her father was named Shmuel and I found
another woman born a few years apart >from Gitlya with the same father's
name. And I found her (Khava) marriage record to Eliyaho-Hirsh KAHANA.

So I started to look into Argentina's records for a person of that name.
That came up empty.

Now my question, what would a person modify there name in a Spanish speaking
country?

I know this is a long shot but I will get no other clues >from any relatives.

Thanks for any help.

Shmuel Fisher
Fountain Valley, CA


Spanish Name Changes #general

Shmuel fisher <shmuel@...>
 

Hi Y'all,

I think that I have an interesting story and an associated problem.

Out of the clear blue sky my first cousin emails me with the information
that our grandmother (Gitlya ) >from Kishinev Bessarabia was leaving the
country about 190? With her husband Joseph Rothpan and *her* sister's family.
However Gitlya's son Sam had pick eye and they couldn't get on the ship.
Her sister's family did get on and the ship went off to Argentina. The
Rothpans got on the next ship and that ship went to Canada. And that is how
my paternal family wound up in Montreal.

When I asked my cousin how she knew this information and did she have more,
the answer was no.

So I looked at the Bessarabian records and found my grandmother's birth
record and her marriage to my grandfather ( not Joe Rothpan).(I can't find
her marriage to Rothpan.) I knew her father was named Shmuel and I found
another woman born a few years apart >from Gitlya with the same father's
name. And I found her (Khava) marriage record to Eliyaho-Hirsh KAHANA.

So I started to look into Argentina's records for a person of that name.
That came up empty.

Now my question, what would a person modify there name in a Spanish speaking
country?

I know this is a long shot but I will get no other clues >from any relatives.

Thanks for any help.

Shmuel Fisher
Fountain Valley, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Vienna Records 1900-1925: MILLER, William #general

David & Diana Laufer
 

The places in Vienna that I would recommend to visit for family history
experiences are:
- the Jewish Community offices, IKG Wien at 4 Seitenstettengasse
- the Wien- und Landesarchiv in Gasometer D
- the central cemetery at Simmering.
- walk around the 2nd District (Bezirk), also known as Leopoldstadt.

I suggest that you make prior appointments for the first two above, and do
as much research beforehand as possible.
To start this research read the beginner's guide to Austrian Jewish
genealogy http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/ausguide.htm
One item that the guide does not seem to mention are the Lehman directories
which are address directories similar to telephone directories.
These are available at the above mentioned Archive and are also searchable
online.

Regards

David Laufer
Sydney


Re: Vienna Records 1900-1925: MILLER, William #general

David & Diana Laufer
 

The places in Vienna that I would recommend to visit for family history
experiences are:
- the Jewish Community offices, IKG Wien at 4 Seitenstettengasse
- the Wien- und Landesarchiv in Gasometer D
- the central cemetery at Simmering.
- walk around the 2nd District (Bezirk), also known as Leopoldstadt.

I suggest that you make prior appointments for the first two above, and do
as much research beforehand as possible.
To start this research read the beginner's guide to Austrian Jewish
genealogy http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/ausguide.htm
One item that the guide does not seem to mention are the Lehman directories
which are address directories similar to telephone directories.
These are available at the above mentioned Archive and are also searchable
online.

Regards

David Laufer
Sydney


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Russian translation / clues / advise / suggestions #general

Manuel Meersohn <manuel.meersohn@...>
 

Dear all,

I have posted 5 images of documents belonging to the family of my
grandmother. I look forward to your help in translating, giving me
clues, advise and suggestions on how to use the documents to further
my search. Thanks in advanced to each and everyone. Manuel

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27228
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27227
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27226
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27225
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27224

Places: Pilyava, Golaia Pristan
Names: Meyerson, Meirson, Meerson, Meersohn, Schajris, Shahris,
Shayeris, Shaharit

Manuel Meersohn manuel.meersohn@...

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Russian translation / clues / advise / suggestions #general

Manuel Meersohn <manuel.meersohn@...>
 

Dear all,

I have posted 5 images of documents belonging to the family of my
grandmother. I look forward to your help in translating, giving me
clues, advise and suggestions on how to use the documents to further
my search. Thanks in advanced to each and everyone. Manuel

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27228
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27227
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27226
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27225
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27224

Places: Pilyava, Golaia Pristan
Names: Meyerson, Meirson, Meerson, Meersohn, Schajris, Shahris,
Shayeris, Shaharit

Manuel Meersohn manuel.meersohn@...

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