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relative killed in Holocaust buried in Vienna Jewish Cemetery #germany

Lin <lin2@...>
 

I recently found through ancestry.com research that a relative, Michael
ORLOW, who was killed in the Shoah was buried in a Vienna cemetery. We
had no relatives in Austria and neither did he. He was divorced >from my
mother's aunt, and she would not have had the money to have him buried
even if they were still together, and she lived in Germany.
According to Yad Vashem he died at Buchenwald.

I was told a story by someone and I'd like to know if anyone has heard
about this before, or if this person was not remembering her history
correctly. I could not find anything about this online.

"Some people killed in the camps would be released to be buried in
cemeteries. It turns out that many people who lived near Buchenwald were
forced to work at the camp. These workers were almost like slaves, but
they could go home at night. They would meet prisoners especially those
who worked where they worked, say the laundry, kitchen, etc. They would
become friends with some people, perhaps special close friends. If a
friend was killed they would often tell whoever that so and so was a
relative of mine and I would like to have him buried with dignity and
they would release the body. One reason they would do so is to show that
the Nazis were not such bad people. But at least they did allow a very
few to be buried with dignity. "

I looked up the cemetery where he is buried online. The Wiener
Zentralfriedhof (which means Vienna Central Cemetery) is quite large. I
wrote and asked if there is a way to find out how Michael ORLOW happened
to be buried there and if there is a way to know who had him buried
there. I have not heard back >from the cemetery. Also, I was told that
Buchenwald was not far >from Vienna, but the granddaughter of the man who
is buried there told me its very far.

We'd love to be able to find out how Michael ORLOW came to be buried in
Vienna's Jewish cemetery. My great-grandfather was a violinist with the
philharmonic - i assume that was in Austria. A little background on
Michael: He was borne born in Cherson or Kherson, Russia and lived in
Markt Berolzheim when he was married. When he and his wife divorced he
lived in Austria. He was a merchant while in Germany. He was a great
musician and played with the Vienna Philharmonic. His
great-granddaughter wondered if he was given special treatment in
Buchenwald or maybe moved >from Buchenwald because of his musical
ability. but I did find records that he was killed at Buchenwald. JOBWR
gives the correct birthdate for a Michael ORLOW buried at the cemetery
in Vienna. ??
Thanking anyone in advance who can shed light on this for his
great-granddaughter.

Lin Herz, Palm Bay, Florida


German SIG #Germany relative killed in Holocaust buried in Vienna Jewish Cemetery #germany

Lin <lin2@...>
 

I recently found through ancestry.com research that a relative, Michael
ORLOW, who was killed in the Shoah was buried in a Vienna cemetery. We
had no relatives in Austria and neither did he. He was divorced >from my
mother's aunt, and she would not have had the money to have him buried
even if they were still together, and she lived in Germany.
According to Yad Vashem he died at Buchenwald.

I was told a story by someone and I'd like to know if anyone has heard
about this before, or if this person was not remembering her history
correctly. I could not find anything about this online.

"Some people killed in the camps would be released to be buried in
cemeteries. It turns out that many people who lived near Buchenwald were
forced to work at the camp. These workers were almost like slaves, but
they could go home at night. They would meet prisoners especially those
who worked where they worked, say the laundry, kitchen, etc. They would
become friends with some people, perhaps special close friends. If a
friend was killed they would often tell whoever that so and so was a
relative of mine and I would like to have him buried with dignity and
they would release the body. One reason they would do so is to show that
the Nazis were not such bad people. But at least they did allow a very
few to be buried with dignity. "

I looked up the cemetery where he is buried online. The Wiener
Zentralfriedhof (which means Vienna Central Cemetery) is quite large. I
wrote and asked if there is a way to find out how Michael ORLOW happened
to be buried there and if there is a way to know who had him buried
there. I have not heard back >from the cemetery. Also, I was told that
Buchenwald was not far >from Vienna, but the granddaughter of the man who
is buried there told me its very far.

We'd love to be able to find out how Michael ORLOW came to be buried in
Vienna's Jewish cemetery. My great-grandfather was a violinist with the
philharmonic - i assume that was in Austria. A little background on
Michael: He was borne born in Cherson or Kherson, Russia and lived in
Markt Berolzheim when he was married. When he and his wife divorced he
lived in Austria. He was a merchant while in Germany. He was a great
musician and played with the Vienna Philharmonic. His
great-granddaughter wondered if he was given special treatment in
Buchenwald or maybe moved >from Buchenwald because of his musical
ability. but I did find records that he was killed at Buchenwald. JOBWR
gives the correct birthdate for a Michael ORLOW buried at the cemetery
in Vienna. ??
Thanking anyone in advance who can shed light on this for his
great-granddaughter.

Lin Herz, Palm Bay, Florida


Where is Oszowe in Vilna gubernia? #general

Linda Epstein
 

Hi Genners,

I need help in figuring where Oszowe is in Vilna Gubernia.
It is clearly marked as such on a 1912 ship manifest.
I have searched on JewishGen to no avail: message archives
and towns of Vilna gubernia. Any ideas???

Linda Epstein
(FL)
Lithuania: OPESKIN/APESKIN, SHUR, KUPER, LAPIDES, WEINBERG
Belarus: CHODOSCH, NAROTSKY
Poland: SEMLER, SEMEL
Ukraine: SINGER, FELMUS, TARNORUDSKI


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Where is Oszowe in Vilna gubernia? #general

Linda Epstein
 

Hi Genners,

I need help in figuring where Oszowe is in Vilna Gubernia.
It is clearly marked as such on a 1912 ship manifest.
I have searched on JewishGen to no avail: message archives
and towns of Vilna gubernia. Any ideas???

Linda Epstein
(FL)
Lithuania: OPESKIN/APESKIN, SHUR, KUPER, LAPIDES, WEINBERG
Belarus: CHODOSCH, NAROTSKY
Poland: SEMLER, SEMEL
Ukraine: SINGER, FELMUS, TARNORUDSKI


More about the Hessen data #germany

Roger Lustig
 

Dear all:
The Waldeck experiment seems to have produced a positive result. Thanks
again to all who have sent me comments & requests.

Again, feel free to add comments to the sheet and/or put remarks in the
Remarks column. And keep those emails coming in!

So, where do we go >from here? Would anyone like to start work on a
county's worth of registers? Teamwork is recommended.

Some other items for consideration:
--Cemetery registers. There are about 50 of these, most of them mostly
Hebrew. Only a few are represented in JOWBR.
--The Mainz Memorbuch: 1478 entries in typescript. There's another
version preserved in one of the archives, but this one seems to be the
complete one.

Incidentally, the Bad Wildungen register at JOWBR seems to be a modern
survey, so there's still room for a register that describes the cemetery
as of 1938. (The on-line one is in typescript too!)

Thanks again,
Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA research coordinator, GerSIG


German SIG #Germany More about the Hessen data #germany

Roger Lustig
 

Dear all:
The Waldeck experiment seems to have produced a positive result. Thanks
again to all who have sent me comments & requests.

Again, feel free to add comments to the sheet and/or put remarks in the
Remarks column. And keep those emails coming in!

So, where do we go >from here? Would anyone like to start work on a
county's worth of registers? Teamwork is recommended.

Some other items for consideration:
--Cemetery registers. There are about 50 of these, most of them mostly
Hebrew. Only a few are represented in JOWBR.
--The Mainz Memorbuch: 1478 entries in typescript. There's another
version preserved in one of the archives, but this one seems to be the
complete one.

Incidentally, the Bad Wildungen register at JOWBR seems to be a modern
survey, so there's still room for a register that describes the cemetery
as of 1938. (The on-line one is in typescript too!)

Thanks again,
Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA research coordinator, GerSIG


Waldeck spreadsheet: you can filter again! #germany

Roger Lustig
 

Dear all:
My inexperience with Google Spreadsheets led me to "protect" most of the
Waldeck list, not knowing that that would prohibit others >from filtering.
That's fixed now. Filter away!

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA research coordinator, GerSIG


German SIG #Germany Waldeck spreadsheet: you can filter again! #germany

Roger Lustig
 

Dear all:
My inexperience with Google Spreadsheets led me to "protect" most of the
Waldeck list, not knowing that that would prohibit others >from filtering.
That's fixed now. Filter away!

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA research coordinator, GerSIG


Family of Renee Milband - UK #unitedkingdom

Nicolas Trokiner
 

Dear all,

I found at my grandmother's a letter >from Renee Miliband (nee Steinlauf)
calling my grandparents "cousins". My grandmother passed away last Sunday
and I have no clues where to ask now.

I have found some information online with Ancestry and Warsaw cemetery
website but so far, none of the surnames meet any of mine.

If someone has any information on Renee or her husband Sam's side (even if
the letter makes me think that the connection is through Renee), please
contact me privately. I would greatly appreciate.

Thank you very much

Nicolas Trokiner
Paris, France


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Family of Renee Milband - UK #unitedkingdom

Nicolas Trokiner
 

Dear all,

I found at my grandmother's a letter >from Renee Miliband (nee Steinlauf)
calling my grandparents "cousins". My grandmother passed away last Sunday
and I have no clues where to ask now.

I have found some information online with Ancestry and Warsaw cemetery
website but so far, none of the surnames meet any of mine.

If someone has any information on Renee or her husband Sam's side (even if
the letter makes me think that the connection is through Renee), please
contact me privately. I would greatly appreciate.

Thank you very much

Nicolas Trokiner
Paris, France


Sub-Carpathia SIG at Boston IAJGS Conference #subcarpathia

Marshall Katz
 

The JewishGen Sub-Carpathia SIG will host a table at the Share Fair on
Sunday, August 4, 1:30 - 5:00 PM, stop by and visit with us.

The Sub-Carpathia SIG meeting is scheduled for:

Tuesday, August 6th, 3:30 - 4:45 p.m. in the Hancock Room.

We look forward to seeing you there.

Respectfully,
Marshall Katz
Sub-Carpathia SIG coordinator

Sub-Carpathia SIG web site "portal"
< http://www.jewishgen/org/Sub-Carpathia/ >


Subcarpathia SIG #Subcarpathia Sub-Carpathia SIG at Boston IAJGS Conference #subcarpathia

Marshall Katz
 

The JewishGen Sub-Carpathia SIG will host a table at the Share Fair on
Sunday, August 4, 1:30 - 5:00 PM, stop by and visit with us.

The Sub-Carpathia SIG meeting is scheduled for:

Tuesday, August 6th, 3:30 - 4:45 p.m. in the Hancock Room.

We look forward to seeing you there.

Respectfully,
Marshall Katz
Sub-Carpathia SIG coordinator

Sub-Carpathia SIG web site "portal"
< http://www.jewishgen/org/Sub-Carpathia/ >


Viewmate translation--Polish #general

Rob Weisskirch <rweisskirch@...>
 

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a close translation. It
is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM28175

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.-

Rob Weisskirch
rweisskirch@csumb.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate translation--Polish #general

Rob Weisskirch <rweisskirch@...>
 

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a close translation. It
is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM28175

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.-

Rob Weisskirch
rweisskirch@csumb.edu


[USA] National Archives Retiring Archives Research Catalogue #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The National Archives (USA) Archival Research Catalog (ARC) is permanently
retiring on August 15th. It has been online for 10 years. Instead, use
Online Public Access search http://www.archives.gov/research/search/ which
contains all of the descriptions and digitized content that was in ARC.
Online Public Access also researches the National Archives website
http://www.archives.gov/ . Search results will be grouped into categories
based on information relevant to your search:

. Digital copies of records
. Descriptions of records
. Web pages on Archives.gov
. Web pages on the Presidential Libraries' websites

To read the posting go to:
http://blogs.archives.gov/online-public-access/?p=8933

If you wish to subscribe to the blog by RSS feed go to:
http://feeds.feedburner.com/Narations

Thank you to David Oseas for alerting us to this NARAtions blog post.

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS Vice President
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen [USA] National Archives Retiring Archives Research Catalogue #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The National Archives (USA) Archival Research Catalog (ARC) is permanently
retiring on August 15th. It has been online for 10 years. Instead, use
Online Public Access search http://www.archives.gov/research/search/ which
contains all of the descriptions and digitized content that was in ARC.
Online Public Access also researches the National Archives website
http://www.archives.gov/ . Search results will be grouped into categories
based on information relevant to your search:

. Digital copies of records
. Descriptions of records
. Web pages on Archives.gov
. Web pages on the Presidential Libraries' websites

To read the posting go to:
http://blogs.archives.gov/online-public-access/?p=8933

If you wish to subscribe to the blog by RSS feed go to:
http://feeds.feedburner.com/Narations

Thank you to David Oseas for alerting us to this NARAtions blog post.

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS Vice President
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Sub-Carpathia SIG at Boston IAJGS Conference #general

Marshall Katz
 

The JewishGen Sub-Carpathia SIG will host a table at the Share Fair on
Sunday, August 4, 1:30 - 5:00 PM, stop by and visit with us.

The Sub-Carpathia SIG meeting is scheduled for:

Tuesday, August 6th, 3:30 - 4:45 p.m. in the Hancock Room.

We look forward to seeing you there..

Respectfully,
Marshall Katz
Sub-Carpathia SIG coordinator

Sub-Carpathia SIG web site "portal"
http://www.jewishgen.org/sub-carpathia/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sub-Carpathia SIG at Boston IAJGS Conference #general

Marshall Katz
 

The JewishGen Sub-Carpathia SIG will host a table at the Share Fair on
Sunday, August 4, 1:30 - 5:00 PM, stop by and visit with us.

The Sub-Carpathia SIG meeting is scheduled for:

Tuesday, August 6th, 3:30 - 4:45 p.m. in the Hancock Room.

We look forward to seeing you there..

Respectfully,
Marshall Katz
Sub-Carpathia SIG coordinator

Sub-Carpathia SIG web site "portal"
http://www.jewishgen.org/sub-carpathia/


ViewMate request - Do you recognize people in a picture from South Africa, ~1930) #general

Roy Ogus
 

I've posted a picture on ViewMate that was taken around 1930 of either a
masonic lodge committee in Klerksdorp, South Africa, called the Royal Order
of the Buffaloes, or of a Hebrew Order of David (HOD) committee in Potchefstroom.

The photographer was Alec Chambers recorded in Potchefstroom in the 1922
directory. The picture can be found at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=28174

Do you recognize any of the men in this picture?

It is believed that the person in the 2nd row, 2nd >from the left is Mr. B. M.
Rudick. Please let me know if you can identify any of the others in the picture.

Please respond using the online ViewMate form, or in a private message to me.
Thanks for your help.

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California, USArogus at hotmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate request - Do you recognize people in a picture from South Africa, ~1930) #general

Roy Ogus
 

I've posted a picture on ViewMate that was taken around 1930 of either a
masonic lodge committee in Klerksdorp, South Africa, called the Royal Order
of the Buffaloes, or of a Hebrew Order of David (HOD) committee in Potchefstroom.

The photographer was Alec Chambers recorded in Potchefstroom in the 1922
directory. The picture can be found at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=28174

Do you recognize any of the men in this picture?

It is believed that the person in the 2nd row, 2nd >from the left is Mr. B. M.
Rudick. Please let me know if you can identify any of the others in the picture.

Please respond using the online ViewMate form, or in a private message to me.
Thanks for your help.

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California, USArogus at hotmail.com

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