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*Duh* moment #general

Trudy Barch
 

Did you ever see an abbreviation and not know what it meant?

I came upon a port of entry that said n o la. and I kept saying to myself,
what is that???? nola - it simply did not make sense.

Several hours later and many records later, I realized it was New Orleans,
Lousianna.

*Duh*, I feel real Stupid. I'm supposed to be an experienced researcher.
Just goes to prove we can all learn something new.

Trudy Barch, Chicagoland


1966 death in Cape Town, South Africa #general

Mjn519@...
 

What would be the best way to get an obituary for someone who died in Cape
Town, South Africa in 1966?

Marie Lubman
Researching: Ozinsky (Cape Town, South Africa)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen *Duh* moment #general

Trudy Barch
 

Did you ever see an abbreviation and not know what it meant?

I came upon a port of entry that said n o la. and I kept saying to myself,
what is that???? nola - it simply did not make sense.

Several hours later and many records later, I realized it was New Orleans,
Lousianna.

*Duh*, I feel real Stupid. I'm supposed to be an experienced researcher.
Just goes to prove we can all learn something new.

Trudy Barch, Chicagoland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1966 death in Cape Town, South Africa #general

Mjn519@...
 

What would be the best way to get an obituary for someone who died in Cape
Town, South Africa in 1966?

Marie Lubman
Researching: Ozinsky (Cape Town, South Africa)


Re: Gordon Y-dna Testing #dna

Steven D. Bloom <sbloom@...>
 

Hi Yisroel,

I do not know all the social tricks and what have you that people do
to get fmaily members that are not close to them to the test.
I am not sure if there are really any tricks. Establishing an earnest
relationship is usually a good start. That is, you may not get far of
you are just out to take someone's dna and run!

It looks like this second part could definitely make part of a note
you send to relatives. However, in a first communication, especially
with relatives you haven't been in touch with in a while, you might
start by explaining that you found out new info about the family,
and would like to share it.

If they seem interested, then share the possibility of being in a DNA
study.

Thank Goodness we were born In Untied States and did not have to know
the hard life of Lithuania. The pogroms and so on. Most of
Lithuanian Jews were wiped out. We know that some Jews did escape
before or during the war. Maybe Jews might have gone to South Africa
or other places. Some might have been babies and taken over my
gentile parents and they are looking for their extended families and
we cannot be found.

Many of us would like to know these answers. Thankfully with the
growth in science a Y-chromosome test can be performed painless. You
will not have to pay for this test.

We can then trace our Gordon routes all the way back and know how we
got to Lithuania and other questions. Are we Levites or Israelites?
See if someone changed the name nevertheless has the same genes.
Good Luck!

Steve Bloom
Central Virginia


DNA Research #DNA Re: Gordon Y-dna Testing #dna

Steven D. Bloom <sbloom@...>
 

Hi Yisroel,

I do not know all the social tricks and what have you that people do
to get fmaily members that are not close to them to the test.
I am not sure if there are really any tricks. Establishing an earnest
relationship is usually a good start. That is, you may not get far of
you are just out to take someone's dna and run!

It looks like this second part could definitely make part of a note
you send to relatives. However, in a first communication, especially
with relatives you haven't been in touch with in a while, you might
start by explaining that you found out new info about the family,
and would like to share it.

If they seem interested, then share the possibility of being in a DNA
study.

Thank Goodness we were born In Untied States and did not have to know
the hard life of Lithuania. The pogroms and so on. Most of
Lithuanian Jews were wiped out. We know that some Jews did escape
before or during the war. Maybe Jews might have gone to South Africa
or other places. Some might have been babies and taken over my
gentile parents and they are looking for their extended families and
we cannot be found.

Many of us would like to know these answers. Thankfully with the
growth in science a Y-chromosome test can be performed painless. You
will not have to pay for this test.

We can then trace our Gordon routes all the way back and know how we
got to Lithuania and other questions. Are we Levites or Israelites?
See if someone changed the name nevertheless has the same genes.
Good Luck!

Steve Bloom
Central Virginia


Re: Conference statistics #bessarabia

Heather Dubnick
 

Dear Yefim,

Please add me to your list. I registered late so my information was
not in the Family Finder for the conference. I am looking for
information about the APTAKER/APTEKAR and CITRIN families from
Kishinev.

Also, I wasn't able to make it to your talk on Kishinev, but I am a
relatively new member of JGSGB, so I am wondering if you plan on doing
a presentation locally in Boston.

Thank you for organizing this list!

Heather Dubnick
Beverly, MA
Also researching DUBNICK and HERSCHITZ >from Kublitz, Ukraine,
KATZ/KAITZ, PEPPER/PFEFFER, KUSHNER, SCHECHTER, & CITRIN from
Kupichev, Poland, ZAGON, MAGNUS, & MALTZ >from Makow, Poland.

MODERATOR NOTE - Yefim, please reply privately to sender, unless there
is information about your presentations that you plan to be making at
other locations. Also, note some of the material is on our website


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia RE: Conference statistics #bessarabia

Heather Dubnick
 

Dear Yefim,

Please add me to your list. I registered late so my information was
not in the Family Finder for the conference. I am looking for
information about the APTAKER/APTEKAR and CITRIN families from
Kishinev.

Also, I wasn't able to make it to your talk on Kishinev, but I am a
relatively new member of JGSGB, so I am wondering if you plan on doing
a presentation locally in Boston.

Thank you for organizing this list!

Heather Dubnick
Beverly, MA
Also researching DUBNICK and HERSCHITZ >from Kublitz, Ukraine,
KATZ/KAITZ, PEPPER/PFEFFER, KUSHNER, SCHECHTER, & CITRIN from
Kupichev, Poland, ZAGON, MAGNUS, & MALTZ >from Makow, Poland.

MODERATOR NOTE - Yefim, please reply privately to sender, unless there
is information about your presentations that you plan to be making at
other locations. Also, note some of the material is on our website


Thank you to all speakers, panelists, moderators for the Bessarabia sessions #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Dear Bessarabian researchers,

I would like to thank all people who made wonderful presentations at the
conference on Bessarabia topics, who spoke on Bessarabia SIG on important
projects, who were moderators, panelists, and shared travel stories with us:

Patricia Klindienst,
Harvey Kabaker,
Brooke Schreier Ganz,
Bob Wascou,
Ala Gamulka,
J. Michael Burke,
Elise Simon Goodman,
Marla Raucher Osborn,
Jay Sage.

Thank you all for your great work.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania.


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Thank you to all speakers, panelists, moderators for the Bessarabia sessions #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Dear Bessarabian researchers,

I would like to thank all people who made wonderful presentations at the
conference on Bessarabia topics, who spoke on Bessarabia SIG on important
projects, who were moderators, panelists, and shared travel stories with us:

Patricia Klindienst,
Harvey Kabaker,
Brooke Schreier Ganz,
Bob Wascou,
Ala Gamulka,
J. Michael Burke,
Elise Simon Goodman,
Marla Raucher Osborn,
Jay Sage.

Thank you all for your great work.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania.


To anyone with roots in Zagare #latvia

Jo Ann Goldwater
 

I have just came back >from a wonderful trip to Riga and Zagare where
my father's families, the Kagans and the Goldwassers originated.

Some of you may have heard of Valdas Balciunas, an amazing young man
from Zagare who is very much involved in preserving the memories of
the Jewish population of the shtetl which at one time was quite
substantial. In the 1897 population census, 8129 residents are listed,
5443 of them were Jewish. Many started to leave the shtetl in the late
19th and early 20th centuries for economic reasons. Valdas was
instrumental in getting a plaque unveiled last summer in the town
square in memory of the Jews who were murdered there in 1941. The last
surviving Jew >from Zagare, Isaac Mendelson died in 2011.

Valdas would like to know if anyone knows of a social club that was
formed in New York by Jews >from Zagare who immigrated there in the
early part of the 20th century. He is also interested in any photos,
or other family memorabilia you may have >from Zagare.

If you have any information, please send it to me and I will forward
it to him.

Thanks to everyone for your help.

Jo Ann Goldwater, Montreal, Canada

Researching GOLDWASSER, KAGAN, BASKIN, ABRAHAMS, SARON, Akmene, Zagare, Riga


Latvia SIG #Latvia To anyone with roots in Zagare #latvia

Jo Ann Goldwater
 

I have just came back >from a wonderful trip to Riga and Zagare where
my father's families, the Kagans and the Goldwassers originated.

Some of you may have heard of Valdas Balciunas, an amazing young man
from Zagare who is very much involved in preserving the memories of
the Jewish population of the shtetl which at one time was quite
substantial. In the 1897 population census, 8129 residents are listed,
5443 of them were Jewish. Many started to leave the shtetl in the late
19th and early 20th centuries for economic reasons. Valdas was
instrumental in getting a plaque unveiled last summer in the town
square in memory of the Jews who were murdered there in 1941. The last
surviving Jew >from Zagare, Isaac Mendelson died in 2011.

Valdas would like to know if anyone knows of a social club that was
formed in New York by Jews >from Zagare who immigrated there in the
early part of the 20th century. He is also interested in any photos,
or other family memorabilia you may have >from Zagare.

If you have any information, please send it to me and I will forward
it to him.

Thanks to everyone for your help.

Jo Ann Goldwater, Montreal, Canada

Researching GOLDWASSER, KAGAN, BASKIN, ABRAHAMS, SARON, Akmene, Zagare, Riga


GORDON Y-DNA testing #dna

Yisroel Shapiro
 

hi genners

what great info I found t this week. I found some more name of my
grandma 's parents or great grandparents and more were they might have
came from. more on that later.. This gets me even more restless
that my immediate family was not close to the only male known gordons
and I need them to do the y test.
I do not know all the social tricks and what have you that people do
to get fmaily members that are not close to them to the test.
in case you know my couisns I tell you there names.
Elliot & carol Gordon in Vermont. His son Keith in Portland or
their daughter Gail kocen .

Thank Goodness we were born In Untied States and did not have to know
the hard life of Lithuania. The pogroms and so on. Most of
Lithuanian Jews were wiped out. We know that some Jews did escape
before or during the war. Maybe Jews might have gone to South Africa
or other places. Some might have been babies and taken over my
gentile parents and they are looking for their extended families and
we cannot be found.

Many of us would like to know these answers. Thankfully with the
growth in science a Y-chromosome test can be performed painless. You
will not have to pay for this test.

We can then trace our Gordon routes all the way back and know how we
got to Lithuania and other questions. Are we Levites or Israelites?
See if someone changed the name nevertheless has the same genes.

We need your help.

Solomon Zalkind and unknown Gordon had Judah Gordon. Judah and Chaya
Tzipa (Ann/Ida) had Rose (later of Toronto ,Canada, Solomon(later of
New jersey ), Mayer(later of new York ), Pesa, and Hyman (later of
new jersey) . Solomon was the father of your (grand) father Ben
Gordon.

thanks


Yisroel
jerusalem


DNA Research #DNA GORDON Y-DNA testing #dna

Yisroel Shapiro
 

hi genners

what great info I found t this week. I found some more name of my
grandma 's parents or great grandparents and more were they might have
came from. more on that later.. This gets me even more restless
that my immediate family was not close to the only male known gordons
and I need them to do the y test.
I do not know all the social tricks and what have you that people do
to get fmaily members that are not close to them to the test.
in case you know my couisns I tell you there names.
Elliot & carol Gordon in Vermont. His son Keith in Portland or
their daughter Gail kocen .

Thank Goodness we were born In Untied States and did not have to know
the hard life of Lithuania. The pogroms and so on. Most of
Lithuanian Jews were wiped out. We know that some Jews did escape
before or during the war. Maybe Jews might have gone to South Africa
or other places. Some might have been babies and taken over my
gentile parents and they are looking for their extended families and
we cannot be found.

Many of us would like to know these answers. Thankfully with the
growth in science a Y-chromosome test can be performed painless. You
will not have to pay for this test.

We can then trace our Gordon routes all the way back and know how we
got to Lithuania and other questions. Are we Levites or Israelites?
See if someone changed the name nevertheless has the same genes.

We need your help.

Solomon Zalkind and unknown Gordon had Judah Gordon. Judah and Chaya
Tzipa (Ann/Ida) had Rose (later of Toronto ,Canada, Solomon(later of
New jersey ), Mayer(later of new York ), Pesa, and Hyman (later of
new jersey) . Solomon was the father of your (grand) father Ben
Gordon.

thanks


Yisroel
jerusalem


Massachusetts - obtaining hospital records from early 1900s #general

Stephen Katz
 

My great-grandmother died in a state-run hospital in Massachusetts more
than 100 years ago. I think that her records, if they exist, may help to
solve one of my family mysteries: the whereabouts and childhood
circumstances of my grandmother in the early 1900s. However, I have been
informed that the records, and even their existence or non-existence,
cannot be revealed without a court order. I would appreciate hearing >from
anyone who has gone through this process in Massachusetts.
Please respond privately.
Stephen KATZ
New York City


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Massachusetts - obtaining hospital records from early 1900s #general

Stephen Katz
 

My great-grandmother died in a state-run hospital in Massachusetts more
than 100 years ago. I think that her records, if they exist, may help to
solve one of my family mysteries: the whereabouts and childhood
circumstances of my grandmother in the early 1900s. However, I have been
informed that the records, and even their existence or non-existence,
cannot be revealed without a court order. I would appreciate hearing >from
anyone who has gone through this process in Massachusetts.
Please respond privately.
Stephen KATZ
New York City


FERSZT/NAIRN family in England #general

Allen Kurtz
 

Fellow researchers,

I am trying to trace the descendants of Anne FERSZT NAIRN and Ronald
Nairn who were married in Hackney, England in 1946. In 1979 they lived
on Beechfied Road in London.
Anne was either the sister or niece of my grandfather. Anne's father
Moses/Morritz, who died in the Holocaust, was either my grandfather's
cousin or his brother.
Before WW2, the family was living in Konstanz, Germany. Moses was
deported and sent to a concentration camp where he died in 1942. If
Anne was his daughter, she may have made her way to England circa
1939, but I'm not sure how.
Using resources available in the US (ancestry, familysearch) as well
as Yad Vashem I have uncovered her wedding certificate and the Pages
of Testimony she submitted on her father and mother.
If Anne Ferszt Nairn had any children, they might hold the key to
unlocking the exact nature of the relationship between Anne and my
grandfather, as well as other information about exactly what happened
to the family in the late 1930s and early 1940s, but I am at a loss on
how to find them.
Thanks for any advice on how to proceed.

Allen Kurtz
Mahopac, New York
USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FERSZT/NAIRN family in England #general

Allen Kurtz
 

Fellow researchers,

I am trying to trace the descendants of Anne FERSZT NAIRN and Ronald
Nairn who were married in Hackney, England in 1946. In 1979 they lived
on Beechfied Road in London.
Anne was either the sister or niece of my grandfather. Anne's father
Moses/Morritz, who died in the Holocaust, was either my grandfather's
cousin or his brother.
Before WW2, the family was living in Konstanz, Germany. Moses was
deported and sent to a concentration camp where he died in 1942. If
Anne was his daughter, she may have made her way to England circa
1939, but I'm not sure how.
Using resources available in the US (ancestry, familysearch) as well
as Yad Vashem I have uncovered her wedding certificate and the Pages
of Testimony she submitted on her father and mother.
If Anne Ferszt Nairn had any children, they might hold the key to
unlocking the exact nature of the relationship between Anne and my
grandfather, as well as other information about exactly what happened
to the family in the late 1930s and early 1940s, but I am at a loss on
how to find them.
Thanks for any advice on how to proceed.

Allen Kurtz
Mahopac, New York
USA


International Genealogy Conference in Boston #belarus

Paul mz
 

The 2013 Jewish Genealogy Conference in Boston was a great success. We
want to thank the organizers for doing an amazing job. We also want to thank
Dr. Michael Lozman for speaking at our Luncheon about his valuable work restoring
cemeteries in Eastern Europe. And thanks to all the Belarus SIG researchers
in attendance at the luncheon and the conference in general.

Paul Zoglin the Belarus SIG database coordinator
introduced a spreadsheet format inventory of birth death marriage
divorce and revision list records that hopefully will be very
useful to researchers. A link to that will be posted in a couple weeks.

Researchers who have commissioned private researchers to search through
record books in the archives in Belarus (or other locations with Belarus records)
should let Paul know about those sources to make sure they have been included
ed in his inventory. Paul will be on vacation until August 19th with limited
internet access so he may not be able to respond to people who have questions
until after August 19th.We had productive discussions with our SIG neighbors
about sharing data relating to border towns and we hope to have better
coordination in the future. We had several discussions with JewishGen about
the future plans of the SIG and how JewishGen can best support us and many
issues were resolved. Thanks to Warren Blatt Michael Tobias and Avraham Groll
their support.

Paul met Yochai Ben Ghedalia the director of the Central Archive for the
History of the Jewish People in Jerusalem which has records >from Belarus.The
inventory is on index cards in Russian but has not been translated. The archive
will allow researchers to photograph these cards. If someone would be willing
to go to the archive and do that for us we could get them translated and include
the information in the inventory of record sources.
Contact Paul if you can help with this.

We are looking forward to a very productive year.
Dave Feldman Belarus SIG Co-coordinator (david.feldman@...)

Sharon Fingold Belarus
SIG Co-coordinator (sfingold@...)
Ruth Silver Research Coordinator
(rescoord@...)
Paul Zoglin Database Coordinator (paulmz@...) =


researching AMDUR (& variants), GREENBURG (& variants), TABACOVICH (& variants) KAMINSKY (& variants) ROSENBERG (& variants) #general

Mike Ross <miluimnik1985@...>
 

Hello

I am researching the names posted in the subject bar.
I would be very interested in hearing >from anyone with information.

specifically
Amdurs >from 18 & 19 century Indura/Braslav/Slobodka/Dvinsk areas
Greenbergs >from London area
Rosenbergs >from London area
Kaminskys >from England
Tabacovich >from anywhere

regards
Mike Ross
Perth Australia