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Sephardic Ashkenazi relations #general

Aubrey Jacobus <aajacobus@...>
 

I have an example of a boy barmitzvah in a Sephardic Shul whose
parents were married Ashkenazi ( 1916 Edinburgh) and appear to
have no Sephardic connections - father was Romanian ( HERSHCOVICI )
How uncommon is this ?

Aubrey Jacobus
London


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sephardic Ashkenazi relations #general

Aubrey Jacobus <aajacobus@...>
 

I have an example of a boy barmitzvah in a Sephardic Shul whose
parents were married Ashkenazi ( 1916 Edinburgh) and appear to
have no Sephardic connections - father was Romanian ( HERSHCOVICI )
How uncommon is this ?

Aubrey Jacobus
London


Izbica Lubelski Records #general

Chesky Wertman <chesky.wertman@...>
 

If your family was >from the town of Izbica Lubelski, and lived
before the war, please contact me privately and let me know your
family names. I may have information of genealogical value to
your research, and you may be interested to learn about my work
with Izbica Lubelski records.

Chesky Wertman
chesky.wertman@yahoo.com
Izbica Lubelski Town Leader
Jewish Records Indexing-Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Izbica Lubelski Records #general

Chesky Wertman <chesky.wertman@...>
 

If your family was >from the town of Izbica Lubelski, and lived
before the war, please contact me privately and let me know your
family names. I may have information of genealogical value to
your research, and you may be interested to learn about my work
with Izbica Lubelski records.

Chesky Wertman
chesky.wertman@yahoo.com
Izbica Lubelski Town Leader
Jewish Records Indexing-Poland


Re: help read English handwriting on passenger list: #general

Eric Cooper
 

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:33:20PM -0500, Barrie Karp wrote:
Can anyone read the destination on this passenger list for passenger:
[...]
Sorry, I was unable to make out any more than you already have.

But you might have more luck if you download the image itself and post
that on Viewmate (or anywhere else that can be viewed publicly). The
link you posted requires you to be logged into Ancestry to view,
limiting the number of people who can help you.

--
Eric Cooper e c c @ c m u . e d u


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: help read English handwriting on passenger list: #general

Eric Cooper
 

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:33:20PM -0500, Barrie Karp wrote:
Can anyone read the destination on this passenger list for passenger:
[...]
Sorry, I was unable to make out any more than you already have.

But you might have more luck if you download the image itself and post
that on Viewmate (or anywhere else that can be viewed publicly). The
link you posted requires you to be logged into Ancestry to view,
limiting the number of people who can help you.

--
Eric Cooper e c c @ c m u . e d u


Polish records pre 1820-ish #general

Dovie Gelerinter
 

It's been a while since I've been able to devote any time really to my
tree but I'm getting back into it and am reminded of some brick walls
I seemed to hit pre 1820 or so in regards to being able to find any
records. The earliest record I have is a marriage record >from about
1849 and, >from that, I've been able to deduce my GGGGF's rough birth
year and his parents' names, but have not been able to nail anything
down.

Any tips on finding earlier Polish records?

Thanks!

Dovie Gelerinter


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Polish records pre 1820-ish #general

Dovie Gelerinter
 

It's been a while since I've been able to devote any time really to my
tree but I'm getting back into it and am reminded of some brick walls
I seemed to hit pre 1820 or so in regards to being able to find any
records. The earliest record I have is a marriage record >from about
1849 and, >from that, I've been able to deduce my GGGGF's rough birth
year and his parents' names, but have not been able to nail anything
down.

Any tips on finding earlier Polish records?

Thanks!

Dovie Gelerinter


The family EFFEL #general

pheya
 

Hello dear Genners
Recently my son found out that my mother had another cousin whom she was not
aware of. And I ofcause hope that someone survived >from that side of the
family since everyone else didn't !
I am looking for relatives of Mordechai EFFEL >from Riga and Libau in Latvia
. In Yad va Shem, his sister Ljuba ISACHOVITZ left witness information about
him and his wife Sarah Sonya GORCHEL, and their daughter Hanna (Elena) .It
is my hope that Ljuba who lived in Israel in the 50ties had children and
grandchildren who will have pictures and information about Sarah and
Mordechai whom both were murdered in 1941.
If anyone know Anything about her and her brother please write to me
privatly
Thanks >from Pheya Yair


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The family EFFEL #general

pheya
 

Hello dear Genners
Recently my son found out that my mother had another cousin whom she was not
aware of. And I ofcause hope that someone survived >from that side of the
family since everyone else didn't !
I am looking for relatives of Mordechai EFFEL >from Riga and Libau in Latvia
. In Yad va Shem, his sister Ljuba ISACHOVITZ left witness information about
him and his wife Sarah Sonya GORCHEL, and their daughter Hanna (Elena) .It
is my hope that Ljuba who lived in Israel in the 50ties had children and
grandchildren who will have pictures and information about Sarah and
Mordechai whom both were murdered in 1941.
If anyone know Anything about her and her brother please write to me
privatly
Thanks >from Pheya Yair


Family Tree DNA Christmas Sale #dna

Carolyn Lea
 

If anyone has been waiting to test family members or themselves this is
the time. Family Tree DNA has started its Christmas sale and there are
some really great prices through December 31. There is also a special on
their new Big Y test which lasts through December 1. And with any $99
Family Finder test (alone or in combination) you will get a free $100
Restaurant.com gift card.

So ask your family members for some cheek!

I am not affiliated with Family Tree DNA and I am posting this to
provide information only.

Carolyn Lea (nee Schwarzbaum)
Oklahoma City, OK
LeacL7@gmail.com

ID# 152314

Researching: SCHWARZBAUM/SCHWARTZBAUM > Posen, Prussia >New York,
Savannah, Georgia and California ROTHSCHILD/ROTHCHILD> Zierenberg,
Hessen Kassel, Hamburg? Prussia> Darien and Savannah, Georgia
BASCH>Prussia>Savannah, Georgia LEWISOHN/LEVISON Elbing, West Prussia>
Brunswick and Savannah, Georgia OPPENHEIM(ER) > Hannover>Savannah,
Georgia and South Carolina WEINBERG >Prussia? Hamburg?> Georgia


DNA Research #DNA Family Tree DNA Christmas Sale #dna

Carolyn Lea
 

If anyone has been waiting to test family members or themselves this is
the time. Family Tree DNA has started its Christmas sale and there are
some really great prices through December 31. There is also a special on
their new Big Y test which lasts through December 1. And with any $99
Family Finder test (alone or in combination) you will get a free $100
Restaurant.com gift card.

So ask your family members for some cheek!

I am not affiliated with Family Tree DNA and I am posting this to
provide information only.

Carolyn Lea (nee Schwarzbaum)
Oklahoma City, OK
LeacL7@gmail.com

ID# 152314

Researching: SCHWARZBAUM/SCHWARTZBAUM > Posen, Prussia >New York,
Savannah, Georgia and California ROTHSCHILD/ROTHCHILD> Zierenberg,
Hessen Kassel, Hamburg? Prussia> Darien and Savannah, Georgia
BASCH>Prussia>Savannah, Georgia LEWISOHN/LEVISON Elbing, West Prussia>
Brunswick and Savannah, Georgia OPPENHEIM(ER) > Hannover>Savannah,
Georgia and South Carolina WEINBERG >Prussia? Hamburg?> Georgia


Re: LEVY and COHEN: Russia/Poland to USA #general

Barbara Zimmer
 

Carl wrote that he was searching for the place(s) where his LEVY
relatives came >from before they moved to New Jersey. I finally found a
clue. Myer Levy's WWI draft registration (in Philadelphia) says that
he was >from Lomza Russia (now in Poland). (could be the city of Lomza
or the gubierna.) My email to Carl bounced.

Barbara Zimmer


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: LEVY and COHEN: Russia/Poland to USA #general

Barbara Zimmer
 

Carl wrote that he was searching for the place(s) where his LEVY
relatives came >from before they moved to New Jersey. I finally found a
clue. Myer Levy's WWI draft registration (in Philadelphia) says that
he was >from Lomza Russia (now in Poland). (could be the city of Lomza
or the gubierna.) My email to Carl bounced.

Barbara Zimmer


Re: What Family Heirlooms Refugees Take When Fleeing #general

marlene finkelstein
 

Thank you for the link to this article. I, too, have a heavy brass mortar &
pestle >from my grandmother ( who came >from Kursenai, Lithuania in 1911). I
never knew if it was bought here in the US or brought with her >from Lita as
the only markings are two decorative birds on one side and a four legged
animal on the other. If others share a similar possession, I would love to
learn of their knowledge of the origin and age of the mortar & pestal.
Regardless, I always associate it with my grandmother, look at it every day,
and treasure it.

Marlene Finkelstein
New Jersey

From: "Jan Meisels Allen" <janmallen@att.net>
The stories and accompanying photos are inspiring and what most
caught my eye was a photo of a heavy mortar and pestle that the
writer's great grandmother took with her >from Warsaw in the early
20th century.
snip.........http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24954580

MODERATOR NOTE: Please continue privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: What Family Heirlooms Refugees Take When Fleeing #general

marlene finkelstein
 

Thank you for the link to this article. I, too, have a heavy brass mortar &
pestle >from my grandmother ( who came >from Kursenai, Lithuania in 1911). I
never knew if it was bought here in the US or brought with her >from Lita as
the only markings are two decorative birds on one side and a four legged
animal on the other. If others share a similar possession, I would love to
learn of their knowledge of the origin and age of the mortar & pestal.
Regardless, I always associate it with my grandmother, look at it every day,
and treasure it.

Marlene Finkelstein
New Jersey

From: "Jan Meisels Allen" <janmallen@att.net>
The stories and accompanying photos are inspiring and what most
caught my eye was a photo of a heavy mortar and pestle that the
writer's great grandmother took with her >from Warsaw in the early
20th century.
snip.........http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24954580

MODERATOR NOTE: Please continue privately.


help read English handwriting on passenger list: #general

Barrie Karp
 

Can anyone read the destination on this passenger list for passenger:

Frama Wien

and two children listed under her name.

It says husband, gives his name and NY address (I think) and says c/o:
(?) in-law (mother-in-law?).

http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NYT715_133-0627/4018916993?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fssrc%3dpt_t51344801_p13946507480_kpidz0q3d13946507480z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid_m1%26srchb%3dr%26gss%3dangs-c%26rank%3d1%26tid%3d51344801%26pid%3d13946507480%26gsfn%3dJetta%2bYetts%2bHenrietta%2bNettie%26gsln%3dWien%26msbdy%3d1897%26msbpn__ftp%3dRomania%26cp%3d4%26cpxt%3d0%26msrpn__ftp%3dNew%2bYork%252c%2bNew%2bYork%252c%2bNew%2bYork%252c%2bUnited%2bStates%26msrpn1__ftp%3dManhattan%2bAssembly%2bDistrict%2b6%252c%2bNew%2bYork%252c%2bNew%2bYork%252c%2bUSA%26msrpn2__ftp%3dManhattan%2bWard%2b11%252c%2bNew%2bYork%252c%2bNew%2bYork%252c%2bUSA%26msfng%3dSamuel%2bSam%2bLeizer%26msfns%3dWien%26msmng%3dMatilde%2bTillie%2bTema%2bb%2bHillel%2bGoldman%26msmns%3dWien%26msbng0%3dNettie%2bWien%26msbns0%3dHammer%26msbng1%3dBenjamin%2bBennie%2bBenny%26msbns1%3dWien%26msbng2%3dBenny%26msbns2%3dWien%26msbng3%3dAnna%2bAnnie%2bWien%26msbns3%3dWeinstock%26msbng4%3dIssie%2bIsadore%2bIrving%26msbns4%3dWien%26msbng5%3dHenrietta%2bWien%26msbns5%3dGreenwald%26pcat%3dIMG_PASSLISTS%26h%3d4018916993%26recoff%3d9%26db%3dnypl%26indiv%3d1%26ml_rpos%3d1&ssrc=pt_t51344801_p13946507480_kpidz0q3d13946507480z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid_m1&backlabel=ReturnRecord

Entry for one of the children:

Name: Jille Wien
Arrival Date: 18 Jun 1900
Birth Date: abt 1896
Age: 4
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Roumanian (Romanian)
Port of Departure: Rotterdam
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Rotterdam

This related to my research for Samuel Leiser/Leizer/Elieser Wien (son
of Yitzach), dod 9/9/1959, a great grand uncle, who, according to
passenger list for 17 Jan 1900, arrived in NY on Rotterdam from
Rotterdam, previous residence "Roumania," listed as single, carpenter;
accompanied by Matilde Goldman, who was his wife (Tillie) and with
whom he had most of his children (the first two children were born in
Romania). His destination was "cousin, Moritz Dornbaum" at a lower
eastside NYC address. My grandmother's destination along the same
route later in 1900 at age 18 was her brother, Samuel Wien, in NYC (on
her passenger list, she was Rebeka Wien; thereafter she was Regina
Karp, married to my g/father, Bernhardt Karp, >from the same place,
arrived the same year in summer different month. Many other relatives
came to NYC from, last place of residence: Iasy, Romania, circa 1900.

Thank you.

Barrie Karp

KARP, WIEN, BERKOWITZ, TUCHFELD, TUDFELA, TUDJELA (Romania)
(Ukraine)(Galicia; L'viv; Stryj);
WEISS (Hungary/Mukaveco/Ukraine) (Cohain); BURKOWITZ, GRUENBAUM/GREENBAUM,
FOX, FUKS, FUCHS, KLEIN, GOTTLIEB [?] (Hungary/Mukaveco/Ukraine).
NYC all Boroughs; Wilkes-Barre, PA; Syracuse, NY; Scranton, PA;
Cleveland, Ohio; Los Angeles, CA; Rochester, NY; Broward, FL; NJ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen help read English handwriting on passenger list: #general

Barrie Karp
 

Can anyone read the destination on this passenger list for passenger:

Frama Wien

and two children listed under her name.

It says husband, gives his name and NY address (I think) and says c/o:
(?) in-law (mother-in-law?).

http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NYT715_133-0627/4018916993?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fssrc%3dpt_t51344801_p13946507480_kpidz0q3d13946507480z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid_m1%26srchb%3dr%26gss%3dangs-c%26rank%3d1%26tid%3d51344801%26pid%3d13946507480%26gsfn%3dJetta%2bYetts%2bHenrietta%2bNettie%26gsln%3dWien%26msbdy%3d1897%26msbpn__ftp%3dRomania%26cp%3d4%26cpxt%3d0%26msrpn__ftp%3dNew%2bYork%252c%2bNew%2bYork%252c%2bNew%2bYork%252c%2bUnited%2bStates%26msrpn1__ftp%3dManhattan%2bAssembly%2bDistrict%2b6%252c%2bNew%2bYork%252c%2bNew%2bYork%252c%2bUSA%26msrpn2__ftp%3dManhattan%2bWard%2b11%252c%2bNew%2bYork%252c%2bNew%2bYork%252c%2bUSA%26msfng%3dSamuel%2bSam%2bLeizer%26msfns%3dWien%26msmng%3dMatilde%2bTillie%2bTema%2bb%2bHillel%2bGoldman%26msmns%3dWien%26msbng0%3dNettie%2bWien%26msbns0%3dHammer%26msbng1%3dBenjamin%2bBennie%2bBenny%26msbns1%3dWien%26msbng2%3dBenny%26msbns2%3dWien%26msbng3%3dAnna%2bAnnie%2bWien%26msbns3%3dWeinstock%26msbng4%3dIssie%2bIsadore%2bIrving%26msbns4%3dWien%26msbng5%3dHenrietta%2bWien%26msbns5%3dGreenwald%26pcat%3dIMG_PASSLISTS%26h%3d4018916993%26recoff%3d9%26db%3dnypl%26indiv%3d1%26ml_rpos%3d1&ssrc=pt_t51344801_p13946507480_kpidz0q3d13946507480z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid_m1&backlabel=ReturnRecord

Entry for one of the children:

Name: Jille Wien
Arrival Date: 18 Jun 1900
Birth Date: abt 1896
Age: 4
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Roumanian (Romanian)
Port of Departure: Rotterdam
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Rotterdam

This related to my research for Samuel Leiser/Leizer/Elieser Wien (son
of Yitzach), dod 9/9/1959, a great grand uncle, who, according to
passenger list for 17 Jan 1900, arrived in NY on Rotterdam from
Rotterdam, previous residence "Roumania," listed as single, carpenter;
accompanied by Matilde Goldman, who was his wife (Tillie) and with
whom he had most of his children (the first two children were born in
Romania). His destination was "cousin, Moritz Dornbaum" at a lower
eastside NYC address. My grandmother's destination along the same
route later in 1900 at age 18 was her brother, Samuel Wien, in NYC (on
her passenger list, she was Rebeka Wien; thereafter she was Regina
Karp, married to my g/father, Bernhardt Karp, >from the same place,
arrived the same year in summer different month. Many other relatives
came to NYC from, last place of residence: Iasy, Romania, circa 1900.

Thank you.

Barrie Karp

KARP, WIEN, BERKOWITZ, TUCHFELD, TUDFELA, TUDJELA (Romania)
(Ukraine)(Galicia; L'viv; Stryj);
WEISS (Hungary/Mukaveco/Ukraine) (Cohain); BURKOWITZ, GRUENBAUM/GREENBAUM,
FOX, FUKS, FUCHS, KLEIN, GOTTLIEB [?] (Hungary/Mukaveco/Ukraine).
NYC all Boroughs; Wilkes-Barre, PA; Syracuse, NY; Scranton, PA;
Cleveland, Ohio; Los Angeles, CA; Rochester, NY; Broward, FL; NJ


Wiesbaden residence lookup - 1936 Arthur EHRLICH and Gertrud nee BARTH #germany

John Paul Lowens <jplowens@...>
 

My father photographed close friends and relatives as he visited them to
say goodbye during his last week in Germany, January 16th, 1936. I'm collecting
information about these photos. They comprise a record of my family's
flight >from Germany and beginning of their new lives in the USA.

One of the first of the "auf wiedersehen" photos was made on 17
January, 1936 in front of house N. 88 on an unidentified street in
Wiesbaden.
It was the family of Arthur Ehrlich, his wife, Gertrud nee BARTH (a
first cousin) and their daughter Ann Ehrlich - b 1931.

Can someone with access to 1936 address books >from Wiesbaden tell me
the name of the street where Arthur Ehrlich lived in N. 88?

If you by chance know this family and would like a copy of the photo
please reply. I don't know if Ann married and had children but would
be delighted to find out.

Gertrud was the daughter of Adelheid SCHEUER and Louis BARTH from
Flehingen, Baden. 9 children were born to them between 1896 and 1918.
In birth order they were: Nanette, Lazar, Herbert, Hedwig, Otto,
Gertrude (in photo), Ernst and Lore BARTH BEHR who died near
Providence, R.I. circa 2001.
I have data on many of these families but not on the EHRLICHs.

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC JPL25@Cornell.edu


German SIG #Germany Wiesbaden residence lookup - 1936 Arthur EHRLICH and Gertrud nee BARTH #germany

John Paul Lowens <jplowens@...>
 

My father photographed close friends and relatives as he visited them to
say goodbye during his last week in Germany, January 16th, 1936. I'm collecting
information about these photos. They comprise a record of my family's
flight >from Germany and beginning of their new lives in the USA.

One of the first of the "auf wiedersehen" photos was made on 17
January, 1936 in front of house N. 88 on an unidentified street in
Wiesbaden.
It was the family of Arthur Ehrlich, his wife, Gertrud nee BARTH (a
first cousin) and their daughter Ann Ehrlich - b 1931.

Can someone with access to 1936 address books >from Wiesbaden tell me
the name of the street where Arthur Ehrlich lived in N. 88?

If you by chance know this family and would like a copy of the photo
please reply. I don't know if Ann married and had children but would
be delighted to find out.

Gertrud was the daughter of Adelheid SCHEUER and Louis BARTH from
Flehingen, Baden. 9 children were born to them between 1896 and 1918.
In birth order they were: Nanette, Lazar, Herbert, Hedwig, Otto,
Gertrude (in photo), Ernst and Lore BARTH BEHR who died near
Providence, R.I. circa 2001.
I have data on many of these families but not on the EHRLICHs.

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC JPL25@Cornell.edu

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