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Famous rabbinical lines with ties to the Frankfurt area and our new website #rabbinic

Janet Akaha <Akaha@...>
 

Dear RavSig,

About 3 years ago Rachel Unkefer and I started a Y DNA project for
the Jewish families of the Frankfurt area who have documented
lineages that go back at least to the 17th Century. However,
because these families traveled widely, we expect that the DNA of
the Jews >from the Frankfurt/Worms/Mainz area represents most of the
rabbinical families of Eastern and Western Europe. This is
illustrated by the fact that we have several different clusters
where the oldest known common ancestor lived as far back as the
12th-14th Century. Among our members are documented direct line
male "Y" offspring of such rabbinical dynasties as; WEIL,
BACHARACH, TREVES, MaHaRaL of Prague (originally >from Worms), and
HALPERN/HEILBRONN(ER). I also have a cluster with SPIRA/SPIER who I
believe I will be able to show are offspring of the SPIRA family of
the 14th Century. I am now in touch with other of other rabbinical
families such as; EPSTEIN, HOROWITZ, LURIA, BRILLIN, & FRAENKEL.
So just because the name of our project began as Frankfurt, you can
see that this goes well beyond borders.

We would like to invite you to visit our new website at;
http://jewsoffrankfurt.com

You will find "Y Family Charts" for many of the families we are
researching. As our charts differ >from normal family trees, please
read our "Start Here" page first so you can better understand this
difference. I haven't quite been able to add charts for all of them
yet, but we have about 40 charts online now. Our surname list
which appears on the home page is not exhaustive and we do not
restrict the project only to the Frankfurt area, as we know that
Frankfurt was closely tied to other communities like Hamburg, Metz,
and even Prague. But if a surname appears in the Ele Toldot records
of Shlomo Ettlinger prior to 1700, that would clearly qualify a
direct line male offspring to join. Even if you don't understand
how Y DNA can be helpful in your own personal research, please visit
our website. We have tried to explain in simple terms some of the
basics. For those of you who are scared of DNA for either privacy
reasons or a lack of science background, we have additional
information on genetic genealogy on our website that will help
clarify. But if you still have concerns or questions, please contact
us.

I would welcome emails >from anyone who would like to assist us in in
either researching, contacting, or testing a participant. If you
think you might have a family that qualifies for our project, please
email me first. We consider surname, geography and pedigree in
deciding if someone's lineage fits. If you do not have the Y DNA
for your Frankfurt line, we may be able to help you find someone who
does. We also welcome volunteers, and I would be willing to share
some of my information (which includes much of Ele Toldot) with
anyone who would like to assist us.

Best Regards,

Janet Billstein Akaha
Corral de Tierra, California
akaha@comcast.net

MODERATOR NOTE: This message is posted for information only, and is not
the start of a thread. Extended discussion of the use of DNA testing in
genealogy is beyond the scope of the RavSIG list. JewishGen maintains
a separate list for these discussions. See http://www.jewishgen.org/DNA/
for more information.


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Famous rabbinical lines with ties to the Frankfurt area and our new website #rabbinic

Janet Akaha <Akaha@...>
 

Dear RavSig,

About 3 years ago Rachel Unkefer and I started a Y DNA project for
the Jewish families of the Frankfurt area who have documented
lineages that go back at least to the 17th Century. However,
because these families traveled widely, we expect that the DNA of
the Jews >from the Frankfurt/Worms/Mainz area represents most of the
rabbinical families of Eastern and Western Europe. This is
illustrated by the fact that we have several different clusters
where the oldest known common ancestor lived as far back as the
12th-14th Century. Among our members are documented direct line
male "Y" offspring of such rabbinical dynasties as; WEIL,
BACHARACH, TREVES, MaHaRaL of Prague (originally >from Worms), and
HALPERN/HEILBRONN(ER). I also have a cluster with SPIRA/SPIER who I
believe I will be able to show are offspring of the SPIRA family of
the 14th Century. I am now in touch with other of other rabbinical
families such as; EPSTEIN, HOROWITZ, LURIA, BRILLIN, & FRAENKEL.
So just because the name of our project began as Frankfurt, you can
see that this goes well beyond borders.

We would like to invite you to visit our new website at;
http://jewsoffrankfurt.com

You will find "Y Family Charts" for many of the families we are
researching. As our charts differ >from normal family trees, please
read our "Start Here" page first so you can better understand this
difference. I haven't quite been able to add charts for all of them
yet, but we have about 40 charts online now. Our surname list
which appears on the home page is not exhaustive and we do not
restrict the project only to the Frankfurt area, as we know that
Frankfurt was closely tied to other communities like Hamburg, Metz,
and even Prague. But if a surname appears in the Ele Toldot records
of Shlomo Ettlinger prior to 1700, that would clearly qualify a
direct line male offspring to join. Even if you don't understand
how Y DNA can be helpful in your own personal research, please visit
our website. We have tried to explain in simple terms some of the
basics. For those of you who are scared of DNA for either privacy
reasons or a lack of science background, we have additional
information on genetic genealogy on our website that will help
clarify. But if you still have concerns or questions, please contact
us.

I would welcome emails >from anyone who would like to assist us in in
either researching, contacting, or testing a participant. If you
think you might have a family that qualifies for our project, please
email me first. We consider surname, geography and pedigree in
deciding if someone's lineage fits. If you do not have the Y DNA
for your Frankfurt line, we may be able to help you find someone who
does. We also welcome volunteers, and I would be willing to share
some of my information (which includes much of Ele Toldot) with
anyone who would like to assist us.

Best Regards,

Janet Billstein Akaha
Corral de Tierra, California
akaha@comcast.net

MODERATOR NOTE: This message is posted for information only, and is not
the start of a thread. Extended discussion of the use of DNA testing in
genealogy is beyond the scope of the RavSIG list. JewishGen maintains
a separate list for these discussions. See http://www.jewishgen.org/DNA/
for more information.


Detailed descendants of R' Chaim of Volozhin #rabbinic

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

I've heard over the last few years that there was a project to
detail the descendants of R' Chaim of Volozhin, over and above the
tree that appear in various books on the yeshiva.

Most of the published trees include primarily those who became well
know rabbis or daughters who married famous rabbinical figures. I'm
looking for a tree which includes as many unknown individuals as
possible. Or even non-biological children who grew up in homes of
descendants of R' Chaim.

eg: R' Itzaleh (R'Chaim's son) had a daughter married to a R'Shmuel
LANDAU . They both passed away relatively young. The books published
in past decades mention one daughter who married a well known Rabbi. I
am wondering if they had other children who weren't listed as they
didn't marry rabbis?

I am not sure which Israeli charedi forum this post would be
appropriate, o I would appreciate if someone could forward the above
question to Israeli and/or Charedi forums.

Thanks.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Detailed descendants of R' Chaim of Volozhin #rabbinic

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

I've heard over the last few years that there was a project to
detail the descendants of R' Chaim of Volozhin, over and above the
tree that appear in various books on the yeshiva.

Most of the published trees include primarily those who became well
know rabbis or daughters who married famous rabbinical figures. I'm
looking for a tree which includes as many unknown individuals as
possible. Or even non-biological children who grew up in homes of
descendants of R' Chaim.

eg: R' Itzaleh (R'Chaim's son) had a daughter married to a R'Shmuel
LANDAU . They both passed away relatively young. The books published
in past decades mention one daughter who married a well known Rabbi. I
am wondering if they had other children who weren't listed as they
didn't marry rabbis?

I am not sure which Israeli charedi forum this post would be
appropriate, o I would appreciate if someone could forward the above
question to Israeli and/or Charedi forums.

Thanks.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem


Library of Ets Haim Amsterdam online #sephardic

Ton Tielen
 

Dear all,

Since last week the Ets Haim Library in Amsterdam - the oldest still
functioning jewish library in the world, has begun to put its
manuscripts online. Twohundred works are now online, and in the end
there will be over 500.

http://www.etshaimmanuscripts.nl/manuscripts/

See here the beauty, richness and diversity of jewish and sephardic culture.

There will also be some manuscripts of a genealogical nature in the
future, e.g. about the families Aboab and Sarucco.

Best regards, Ton Tielen, The Hague


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Library of Ets Haim Amsterdam online #sephardic

Ton Tielen
 

Dear all,

Since last week the Ets Haim Library in Amsterdam - the oldest still
functioning jewish library in the world, has begun to put its
manuscripts online. Twohundred works are now online, and in the end
there will be over 500.

http://www.etshaimmanuscripts.nl/manuscripts/

See here the beauty, richness and diversity of jewish and sephardic culture.

There will also be some manuscripts of a genealogical nature in the
future, e.g. about the families Aboab and Sarucco.

Best regards, Ton Tielen, The Hague


headstone photo help please #galicia

Ar Brown <arbrown2@...>
 

I have newly discovered several relatives who are buried at Mt. Hebron
Cemetery in Flushing, NY. I am wondering if anyone is interested in
taking photos of their headstones and willing to have a look around
for other relatives with the surnames listed below. I am willing to pay
for this, so please let me know what you think is appropriate.

Mt. Hebron Cemetery is located at 130-04 Horace Harding Expressway,
Flushing, NY.

Abraham GOLDBERG was born 5 Feb 1895 in Austria and died 27 Nov
1932 in Brooklyn. His wife was Miriam, mother was Rebecca Mintzer
and father was David. He is buried in Brodyer Young Men's Sick
Benevolent and Educational Alliance/Block 36/Path 15. Cemetery
burial 152.

David GOLDBERG (Dovid b Avraham) was born abt 1923 and died 25
Sep 1947 in Haverstraw, NY. His mother was Miriam and father
Abraham. He is buried in the same place as Abraham (above)
Block 36/Path 15. Cemetery burial 152.

Selma GOLDBERG (Selma b Avraham) was born abt 1919 and died 6 Jan
1919. She was David's sister and is buried in the same block and path.
Cemetery burial 152.

Ida REIFF aka Mariam Floch (Chaia b Moshe) was born abt 1894 in
Austria and died 30 Jan 1971. Her husband was Louis Reiff. She is
buried in the First Brodyer Bnai Brith Congregation/Block 46/Ref 1.
Cemetery burial 172.

Thank you in advance

Arlynne Brown

searching: BERMAN, GOLDENBERG, MINTZER, FLOCH, FEUERSTEIN,
HALPERN, HERSCH - Brody, Ukraine; GOLDBERG, MINTZER, FEUERSTEIN /
FIERSTEIN / FIERSTEIN / FERRSTIEN, HALPERN - New York City


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia headstone photo help please #galicia

Ar Brown <arbrown2@...>
 

I have newly discovered several relatives who are buried at Mt. Hebron
Cemetery in Flushing, NY. I am wondering if anyone is interested in
taking photos of their headstones and willing to have a look around
for other relatives with the surnames listed below. I am willing to pay
for this, so please let me know what you think is appropriate.

Mt. Hebron Cemetery is located at 130-04 Horace Harding Expressway,
Flushing, NY.

Abraham GOLDBERG was born 5 Feb 1895 in Austria and died 27 Nov
1932 in Brooklyn. His wife was Miriam, mother was Rebecca Mintzer
and father was David. He is buried in Brodyer Young Men's Sick
Benevolent and Educational Alliance/Block 36/Path 15. Cemetery
burial 152.

David GOLDBERG (Dovid b Avraham) was born abt 1923 and died 25
Sep 1947 in Haverstraw, NY. His mother was Miriam and father
Abraham. He is buried in the same place as Abraham (above)
Block 36/Path 15. Cemetery burial 152.

Selma GOLDBERG (Selma b Avraham) was born abt 1919 and died 6 Jan
1919. She was David's sister and is buried in the same block and path.
Cemetery burial 152.

Ida REIFF aka Mariam Floch (Chaia b Moshe) was born abt 1894 in
Austria and died 30 Jan 1971. Her husband was Louis Reiff. She is
buried in the First Brodyer Bnai Brith Congregation/Block 46/Ref 1.
Cemetery burial 172.

Thank you in advance

Arlynne Brown

searching: BERMAN, GOLDENBERG, MINTZER, FLOCH, FEUERSTEIN,
HALPERN, HERSCH - Brody, Ukraine; GOLDBERG, MINTZER, FEUERSTEIN /
FIERSTEIN / FIERSTEIN / FERRSTIEN, HALPERN - New York City


ViewMate: Russian translation #general

David Ellis
 

I posted a vital record >from Mlawa, Poland in 1879 to ViewMate. The document, which
may be the death record of one of my fifth-generation ancestors, is handwritten in
Russian, and I would very much appreciate a translation. You can find it at the
following location: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM30265
My preference is for responses be sent to my e-mail address, djemkitso@verizon.net.

Thank you very much!

David Ellis
Natick, MA 01760
djemkitso@verizon.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate: Russian translation #general

David Ellis
 

I posted a vital record >from Mlawa, Poland in 1879 to ViewMate. The document, which
may be the death record of one of my fifth-generation ancestors, is handwritten in
Russian, and I would very much appreciate a translation. You can find it at the
following location: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM30265
My preference is for responses be sent to my e-mail address, djemkitso@verizon.net.

Thank you very much!

David Ellis
Natick, MA 01760
djemkitso@verizon.net


Viewmate Request: Russian Translation requested. #general

stephen cohen
 

I've posted 4 vital records >from the town of Brzeziny in Russian for
which I need a loose translation of the pertinent genealogical information.

They are on ViewMate at the following addresses...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM30255
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM30254
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM30253
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM30252

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thanks so much in advance.

Stephen Cohen


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate Request: Russian Translation requested. #general

stephen cohen
 

I've posted 4 vital records >from the town of Brzeziny in Russian for
which I need a loose translation of the pertinent genealogical information.

They are on ViewMate at the following addresses...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM30255
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM30254
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM30253
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM30252

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thanks so much in advance.

Stephen Cohen


JGSPalm Beach County, FL - December Symposium Reminder #general

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

WHAT: Alfred M.Silberfeld Memorial Symposium
WHEN: SUNDAY, December 8, 2013
In lieu of a December meeting, the GenealogySymposium is being held.
WHERE: South County Civic Center, 16700 Jog Road, Delray Beach

Lectures will be presented throughout the Civic Centermeeting rooms.
Our Librarian will be featuring research books in the "schoolroom".

WHEN: 9:30 A.M. - 4 PM
FEE: - JGS Members: $25.00 Non Members, walk-ins: $30.00 Dairy box lunch included
CONTINUOUS PROGRAM PRESENTATIONSthroughout the day:

JRI-Poland - Jewish Records Indexing Poland
Preserving Your Family History Records Digitally
Naturalization Records
JewishGen.org: The Basics and Beyond
Memoir Writing
Finding Your Family Using FamilySearch.org
Using SteveMorse.org for Genealogical Research
Census forms: Revealing Hidden Secrets
Family Tree Maker - How to Use and Navigate
Telling Your Story Using Power Point

For further information, please email Joel Sisitsky, Chairman
joelsisitsky@gmail.com

Submitted by:

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
President Emerita
Genealogy Resources Workbook Editor
Speakers Bureau Chair
JGSPBCI, Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSPalm Beach County, FL - December Symposium Reminder #general

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

WHAT: Alfred M.Silberfeld Memorial Symposium
WHEN: SUNDAY, December 8, 2013
In lieu of a December meeting, the GenealogySymposium is being held.
WHERE: South County Civic Center, 16700 Jog Road, Delray Beach

Lectures will be presented throughout the Civic Centermeeting rooms.
Our Librarian will be featuring research books in the "schoolroom".

WHEN: 9:30 A.M. - 4 PM
FEE: - JGS Members: $25.00 Non Members, walk-ins: $30.00 Dairy box lunch included
CONTINUOUS PROGRAM PRESENTATIONSthroughout the day:

JRI-Poland - Jewish Records Indexing Poland
Preserving Your Family History Records Digitally
Naturalization Records
JewishGen.org: The Basics and Beyond
Memoir Writing
Finding Your Family Using FamilySearch.org
Using SteveMorse.org for Genealogical Research
Census forms: Revealing Hidden Secrets
Family Tree Maker - How to Use and Navigate
Telling Your Story Using Power Point

For further information, please email Joel Sisitsky, Chairman
joelsisitsky@gmail.com

Submitted by:

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
President Emerita
Genealogy Resources Workbook Editor
Speakers Bureau Chair
JGSPBCI, Florida


headstone photo help please #general

Ar Brown <arbrown2@...>
 

I have newly discovered several relatives who are buried at Mt. Hebron Cemetery in
Flushing,NY. I am wondering if anyone is interested in taking photos of their
headstones and willing to have a look around for other relatives with the given
names listed below. I am willing to pay for this, so please let me know what you
think is appropriate.

Mt. Hebron Cemetery is located at 130-04 Horace Harding Expressway,Flushing, NY.

ABRAHAM GOLDBERG was born 5 Feb 1895 in Austria and died 27 Nov 1932 in Brooklyn.
His wife was Miriam, mother was Rebecca Mintzer and father was David. He is
buried in Brodyer Young Men's Sick Benevolent and Educational Alliance/Block 36/
Path 15. Cemetery burial 152.

DAVID GOLDBERG (Dovid b Avraham) was born abt 1923 and died 25 Sep 1947 in
Haverstraw, NY. His mother was Miriam and father Abraham. He is buried in the same
place as Abraham (above) Block 36/Path 15. Cemetery burial 152.

SELMA GOLDBERG (Selma b Avraham)was born abt 1919 and died 6 Jan 1919. She was
David's sister and is buried in the same block and path. Cemetery burial 152.

IDA REIFF AKA Mariam Floch (Chaia b Moshe) was born abt 1894 in Austria and died 30
Jan 1971. Her husband was Louis Reiff. She is buried in the First Brodyer Bmai
Brith Congregation/Block 46/Ref 1. Cemetery burial 172.

Thank you in advance

Arlynne Brown
searching: BERMAN/GOLDENBERG/MINTZER/FLOCH/FEUERSTEIN/HALPERN/HERSCH
Brody, Ukraine/GOLDEBERG/MINTZER/FEUERSTEIN/FIERSTEIN/FIERSTEIN/FERRSTIEN/HALPERN
New York City/

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses only, please


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen headstone photo help please #general

Ar Brown <arbrown2@...>
 

I have newly discovered several relatives who are buried at Mt. Hebron Cemetery in
Flushing,NY. I am wondering if anyone is interested in taking photos of their
headstones and willing to have a look around for other relatives with the given
names listed below. I am willing to pay for this, so please let me know what you
think is appropriate.

Mt. Hebron Cemetery is located at 130-04 Horace Harding Expressway,Flushing, NY.

ABRAHAM GOLDBERG was born 5 Feb 1895 in Austria and died 27 Nov 1932 in Brooklyn.
His wife was Miriam, mother was Rebecca Mintzer and father was David. He is
buried in Brodyer Young Men's Sick Benevolent and Educational Alliance/Block 36/
Path 15. Cemetery burial 152.

DAVID GOLDBERG (Dovid b Avraham) was born abt 1923 and died 25 Sep 1947 in
Haverstraw, NY. His mother was Miriam and father Abraham. He is buried in the same
place as Abraham (above) Block 36/Path 15. Cemetery burial 152.

SELMA GOLDBERG (Selma b Avraham)was born abt 1919 and died 6 Jan 1919. She was
David's sister and is buried in the same block and path. Cemetery burial 152.

IDA REIFF AKA Mariam Floch (Chaia b Moshe) was born abt 1894 in Austria and died 30
Jan 1971. Her husband was Louis Reiff. She is buried in the First Brodyer Bmai
Brith Congregation/Block 46/Ref 1. Cemetery burial 172.

Thank you in advance

Arlynne Brown
searching: BERMAN/GOLDENBERG/MINTZER/FLOCH/FEUERSTEIN/HALPERN/HERSCH
Brody, Ukraine/GOLDEBERG/MINTZER/FEUERSTEIN/FIERSTEIN/FIERSTEIN/FERRSTIEN/HALPERN
New York City/

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses only, please


Locating adoption papers #general

krothstein
 

Hello,
I am trying to assist someone who is tracing his roots. He and I are very
close Y-DNA matches. The problem is that he was adopted in 1928 in NY when
he was 6 months old and has lived in Wisconsin ever since. He has never been
able to locate any records. He knows his birth name and said that he was
given to a Jewish adoption agency in 1928. Is there any way to locate any
information on his birth parents. Even at his current age, he desperately
would like to know about his heritage. Any advice would be most appreciated!
Please feel free to respond to me privately.
Thank You,
Ken Rothstein
Valencia, California
krothstein@sbcglobal.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Locating adoption papers #general

krothstein
 

Hello,
I am trying to assist someone who is tracing his roots. He and I are very
close Y-DNA matches. The problem is that he was adopted in 1928 in NY when
he was 6 months old and has lived in Wisconsin ever since. He has never been
able to locate any records. He knows his birth name and said that he was
given to a Jewish adoption agency in 1928. Is there any way to locate any
information on his birth parents. Even at his current age, he desperately
would like to know about his heritage. Any advice would be most appreciated!
Please feel free to respond to me privately.
Thank You,
Ken Rothstein
Valencia, California
krothstein@sbcglobal.net


Rhona Adler #southafrica

Saul Issroff
 

The Country communities project of the SA Friends of Beth Hatefusot
are trying to contact Rhona Adler, who lives in Australia. Her maiden name
was Hirshowitz (her mother married David Hirshowitz of Bethal). She
supposedly has a wonderful photograph, taken in Amersfoort c1912, of
her mother Annie & grandmother Mathilda Sawitz seated in a horse-drawn
cart. They want to include this photo in their next volume.

Please reply privately to Ticcie Yudaken <Museum@beyahad.co.za>

Saul Issroff


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Rhona Adler #southafrica

Saul Issroff
 

The Country communities project of the SA Friends of Beth Hatefusot
are trying to contact Rhona Adler, who lives in Australia. Her maiden name
was Hirshowitz (her mother married David Hirshowitz of Bethal). She
supposedly has a wonderful photograph, taken in Amersfoort c1912, of
her mother Annie & grandmother Mathilda Sawitz seated in a horse-drawn
cart. They want to include this photo in their next volume.

Please reply privately to Ticcie Yudaken <Museum@beyahad.co.za>

Saul Issroff

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