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Possible names for passenger lists?
#general
Stephanie Berrys <sjbovu@...>
Thanks to the advice of a Jewish Gen member I found one branch of the
family on a Hamburg passenger list (after 3 years of looking) and then afterwards on a ship's list for the England to North America trip. So now I'm looking for the brother of the head of the first family with his wife and children. When I found the first family, all of the first names save one were a probably Yiddish or German variant of the names that I knew, so I'm thinking the same will be true of the other family. I am hoping, if I list the names as I know them, I might get suggestions of other first names to look under (I'm having no luck with the last name). The members are: father Louis/Leib, mother Rose Rachel, children Sam/Sender, Sadie, and Charles/Shaia. Last name was Gershengorn anglicized to Hershorn (although on the ship's manifest for Louis's brother the name was Hirschensohn so who knows). Family was >from the Podolia gubernia in Ukraine. Thanks! Stephanie Berrys Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada Researching: DECHTER/DECTAR Kiev, maybe Odessa, Minnesota, Montreal; HERSCHORN/HERSHORN Kamenetz-Podolia, Montreal; BERLINSKY Posen & Berlin, Germany, BERNSTEIN, Berlin, MANNHEIM, Poland & Germany, MCNEIL, Barra Scotland and Nova Scotia
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Possible names for passenger lists?
#general
Stephanie Berrys <sjbovu@...>
Thanks to the advice of a Jewish Gen member I found one branch of the
family on a Hamburg passenger list (after 3 years of looking) and then afterwards on a ship's list for the England to North America trip. So now I'm looking for the brother of the head of the first family with his wife and children. When I found the first family, all of the first names save one were a probably Yiddish or German variant of the names that I knew, so I'm thinking the same will be true of the other family. I am hoping, if I list the names as I know them, I might get suggestions of other first names to look under (I'm having no luck with the last name). The members are: father Louis/Leib, mother Rose Rachel, children Sam/Sender, Sadie, and Charles/Shaia. Last name was Gershengorn anglicized to Hershorn (although on the ship's manifest for Louis's brother the name was Hirschensohn so who knows). Family was >from the Podolia gubernia in Ukraine. Thanks! Stephanie Berrys Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada Researching: DECHTER/DECTAR Kiev, maybe Odessa, Minnesota, Montreal; HERSCHORN/HERSHORN Kamenetz-Podolia, Montreal; BERLINSKY Posen & Berlin, Germany, BERNSTEIN, Berlin, MANNHEIM, Poland & Germany, MCNEIL, Barra Scotland and Nova Scotia
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Kazyonner (State Approved) Rabbi
#general
David Goldman
Having discovered that I had one great-great-great-grandfather who was
classified as the "kazyonner rabbiner" of the town of Dabrowa-Byalistocka near Grodno in the late 19th century, I was wondering what exactly the word "kazyonner" means and how a person who has that status differs >from any rabbis who did not have it. He must have had that status >from the 1840s or 1850s and died early in the 20th century before the birth of a relative in 1913 who was named for him. His name was Rabbi Yechiel Michel Olyan and must have been born in Dabrowa around 1835. Although I have been able to trace Olyans >from there aside >from my family, we have not been able to establish the family links. David Goldman
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kazyonner (State Approved) Rabbi
#general
David Goldman
Having discovered that I had one great-great-great-grandfather who was
classified as the "kazyonner rabbiner" of the town of Dabrowa-Byalistocka near Grodno in the late 19th century, I was wondering what exactly the word "kazyonner" means and how a person who has that status differs >from any rabbis who did not have it. He must have had that status >from the 1840s or 1850s and died early in the 20th century before the birth of a relative in 1913 who was named for him. His name was Rabbi Yechiel Michel Olyan and must have been born in Dabrowa around 1835. Although I have been able to trace Olyans >from there aside >from my family, we have not been able to establish the family links. David Goldman
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ViewMat Request- translation from Latin
#subcarpathia
Roberta Solit <rsolit@...>
Latin translation needed, Not Hungarian.
I previously posted 2 pages >from the 1728 Census of Ugocsa County Hungary for the town of Komjat requesting a translation >from Hungarian script. As was pointed out to me, this was written in Latin, the language of official records in Hungary until nearly the 20th century, not Hungarian. The pages are on ViewMate at the following address: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32236 and http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32237 Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application. Thank you very much. Roberta Solit West Palm Beach, FL ---
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Subcarpathia SIG #Subcarpathia ViewMat Request- translation from Latin
#subcarpathia
Roberta Solit <rsolit@...>
Latin translation needed, Not Hungarian.
I previously posted 2 pages >from the 1728 Census of Ugocsa County Hungary for the town of Komjat requesting a translation >from Hungarian script. As was pointed out to me, this was written in Latin, the language of official records in Hungary until nearly the 20th century, not Hungarian. The pages are on ViewMate at the following address: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32236 and http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32237 Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application. Thank you very much. Roberta Solit West Palm Beach, FL ---
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Jim <jesjmskali@...>
Oh how sad we are to learn about the passing of Martha. We corresponded over a
decade ago over potential Lenhoff relatives. She was always prompt and helpful in correspondence. Although we were not related we always were excited to share family info with each other. On our brief visit to Israel four years ago we made it a point to meet Martha and had a wonderful time together. She was quite a person and so glad we did meet. All of us dabblers in genealogy and those skilled researchers will miss this wonderful person. We send our prayers and thoughts to her daughter and close ones during this time of healing. Jim and Jackie Shulman (Galena, Ohio)
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Jim <jesjmskali@...>
Oh how sad we are to learn about the passing of Martha. We corresponded over a
decade ago over potential Lenhoff relatives. She was always prompt and helpful in correspondence. Although we were not related we always were excited to share family info with each other. On our brief visit to Israel four years ago we made it a point to meet Martha and had a wonderful time together. She was quite a person and so glad we did meet. All of us dabblers in genealogy and those skilled researchers will miss this wonderful person. We send our prayers and thoughts to her daughter and close ones during this time of healing. Jim and Jackie Shulman (Galena, Ohio)
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Sedziszow Malipolski - Info regarding town records and Fischmann & Mandel - GARP Project
#galicia
Pamela Weisberger
Aleisa Fishman writes:
"I'm trying to find birth/marriage/death records for my FISCHMANN and MANDEL relatives >from Sedziszow Malipolski, Galicia. I understand that the Jewish records are gone >from the town, but perhaps they were sent (or copies were sent) to a county seat? Could the records be part of local church records?" Gesher Galicia's "Galician Archival Records Project" or GARP was developed to acquire all types of records for a single town. In addition to vital records, we also get landowner, property, tax, voter, governmental and school records. Any record that places a family in the town in a certain year. These prove to be excellent supplemental sources of genealogical information, especially in the cases of towns such as yours, for which no (or few) vital records survive. Gesher Galicia has a town project for Sedziszow. The following items were already acquired in digital format >from the Przemysl archives: 1849 - Book of house owners of Sedziszow (ger. alphabetisches verzeichniss). Alphabetic house owners list include names and house numbers (254 names). Digital images. 1849 - Book of house owners of Sedziszow (ger. hauser verzeichniss). Householders' list in house number order includes house numbers, names, status & place (254 names). Digital images. 1849 - Book of landowners of Sedzszow (ger. alphabetisches verzeichniss). Alphabetic landowners list include names and house numbers (281 names). Digital images. We also have a Feldskizzen (Cadastral Map) for Sedziszow which has many names on it. Although not online yet, it will be in the next few months. These records, which are for the community and contain names of all residents of every religion, are currently being indexed, so the data is not yet online on the All Galicia Database (our free search engine), however contributors of $50 or more to the town project are able to view the images on a password protected server. In one of the record books I can see Israel and Hersch MANDEL listed in several houses and owning parcels, so perhaps these are your relatives. If you want to learn more about GARP -- the work that we do and how the town projects are funded -- you can read more here: http://www.geshergalicia.org/projects/garp/ You can also contact me privately for more information. With all the records we acquire, once indexes are created they are uploaded to the freely searchable AGD. Prior to that time, the images can be viewed only by contributors. The contributions, along with Gesher Galicia membership dues, help to fund our research. By getting complete records for an entire town, many researchers discover family connections and names (based on people living in a single house) that were not previously aware of. I hope the existence of this project will give hope to researchers who have thus far been unsuccessful in their efforts to locate vital records. As Suzan Wynne explained, there has never been a case of locating Jewish entries in a Catholic metrical register in Galicia (they are, however, found in Congress Poland records >from 1819-1826) yet in a recent visit to the Lviv Historical Archives I was told by one of their archivists that a Jewish record book for Swirz was discovered sandwiched in between a stack of Catholic registers during an inventory, so it is possible that over the years more such books may surface. Similarly, Fond 154 in the Przemysl Archives, which contains many Jewish registers (mostly indexes, not full records) appeared only in the past few years, so there is always that possibility. Pamela Weisberger President, Gesher Galicia pweisberger@gmail.com
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Sedziszow Malipolski - Info regarding town records and Fischmann & Mandel - GARP Project
#galicia
Pamela Weisberger
Aleisa Fishman writes:
"I'm trying to find birth/marriage/death records for my FISCHMANN and MANDEL relatives >from Sedziszow Malipolski, Galicia. I understand that the Jewish records are gone >from the town, but perhaps they were sent (or copies were sent) to a county seat? Could the records be part of local church records?" Gesher Galicia's "Galician Archival Records Project" or GARP was developed to acquire all types of records for a single town. In addition to vital records, we also get landowner, property, tax, voter, governmental and school records. Any record that places a family in the town in a certain year. These prove to be excellent supplemental sources of genealogical information, especially in the cases of towns such as yours, for which no (or few) vital records survive. Gesher Galicia has a town project for Sedziszow. The following items were already acquired in digital format >from the Przemysl archives: 1849 - Book of house owners of Sedziszow (ger. alphabetisches verzeichniss). Alphabetic house owners list include names and house numbers (254 names). Digital images. 1849 - Book of house owners of Sedziszow (ger. hauser verzeichniss). Householders' list in house number order includes house numbers, names, status & place (254 names). Digital images. 1849 - Book of landowners of Sedzszow (ger. alphabetisches verzeichniss). Alphabetic landowners list include names and house numbers (281 names). Digital images. We also have a Feldskizzen (Cadastral Map) for Sedziszow which has many names on it. Although not online yet, it will be in the next few months. These records, which are for the community and contain names of all residents of every religion, are currently being indexed, so the data is not yet online on the All Galicia Database (our free search engine), however contributors of $50 or more to the town project are able to view the images on a password protected server. In one of the record books I can see Israel and Hersch MANDEL listed in several houses and owning parcels, so perhaps these are your relatives. If you want to learn more about GARP -- the work that we do and how the town projects are funded -- you can read more here: http://www.geshergalicia.org/projects/garp/ You can also contact me privately for more information. With all the records we acquire, once indexes are created they are uploaded to the freely searchable AGD. Prior to that time, the images can be viewed only by contributors. The contributions, along with Gesher Galicia membership dues, help to fund our research. By getting complete records for an entire town, many researchers discover family connections and names (based on people living in a single house) that were not previously aware of. I hope the existence of this project will give hope to researchers who have thus far been unsuccessful in their efforts to locate vital records. As Suzan Wynne explained, there has never been a case of locating Jewish entries in a Catholic metrical register in Galicia (they are, however, found in Congress Poland records >from 1819-1826) yet in a recent visit to the Lviv Historical Archives I was told by one of their archivists that a Jewish record book for Swirz was discovered sandwiched in between a stack of Catholic registers during an inventory, so it is possible that over the years more such books may surface. Similarly, Fond 154 in the Przemysl Archives, which contains many Jewish registers (mostly indexes, not full records) appeared only in the past few years, so there is always that possibility. Pamela Weisberger President, Gesher Galicia pweisberger@gmail.com
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Anglo Jewish SIG (London) this Sunday-Business Records
#general
Scooby Doo
Now that you have carried out the basic genealogical steps of
finding out family Births, Marriages and Deaths, what other kind of information can you then look for? Business records offer an insight into the lives of family members and add another layer of personal information. We continue our theme of "know Your Sources", focusing on "Jewish Businesses in the 19th Century" this Sunday at 33 Seymour Place, London,UK Time: 2.30-5.30 The weather may not be great on the day, but a warm welcome awaits you at the meeting. After the tea break there will be a chance for members to recount their own stories about businesses, and to share problems related to other aspects of Anglo Jewish research. Please RSVP to Sue Woolf asap on susanmwoolf@hotmail.com (remember the 'm') for security and catering reasons. Looking forward to seeing you there. Sue Woolf
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Anglo Jewish SIG (London) this Sunday-Business Records
#general
Scooby Doo
Now that you have carried out the basic genealogical steps of
finding out family Births, Marriages and Deaths, what other kind of information can you then look for? Business records offer an insight into the lives of family members and add another layer of personal information. We continue our theme of "know Your Sources", focusing on "Jewish Businesses in the 19th Century" this Sunday at 33 Seymour Place, London,UK Time: 2.30-5.30 The weather may not be great on the day, but a warm welcome awaits you at the meeting. After the tea break there will be a chance for members to recount their own stories about businesses, and to share problems related to other aspects of Anglo Jewish research. Please RSVP to Sue Woolf asap on susanmwoolf@hotmail.com (remember the 'm') for security and catering reasons. Looking forward to seeing you there. Sue Woolf
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Arlene Beare
I have just heard the very sad news that Martha has passed away. I am
deeply saddened and I know she will be missed by many. Martha put a great deal of time and effort into the Jewish Genealogy of Latvia particularly Courland. She was a Speaker at the Conference in Boston delivering a paper on Genealogy in Latvia and as an Historian eager to document all aspects of the history of Latvia. Her helpful nature was appreciated by all as she was ever ready to give advice and help. She did a great deal for he Genealogical Society in Israel. It is indeed a sad day and we have lost a good friend and Researcher. Arlene Beare UK Researching Dorfman (Birzai Lithuania and then Riga) Scher /Blum(Pandelys Lithuania and then Riga) Berman (Lygumai Lithuania and then Jekabpils Latvia) Samuels Poland possibly Krakow and Zychlin
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Arlene Beare
I have just heard the very sad news that Martha has passed away. I am
deeply saddened and I know she will be missed by many. Martha put a great deal of time and effort into the Jewish Genealogy of Latvia particularly Courland. She was a Speaker at the Conference in Boston delivering a paper on Genealogy in Latvia and as an Historian eager to document all aspects of the history of Latvia. Her helpful nature was appreciated by all as she was ever ready to give advice and help. She did a great deal for he Genealogical Society in Israel. It is indeed a sad day and we have lost a good friend and Researcher. Arlene Beare UK Researching Dorfman (Birzai Lithuania and then Riga) Scher /Blum(Pandelys Lithuania and then Riga) Berman (Lygumai Lithuania and then Jekabpils Latvia) Samuels Poland possibly Krakow and Zychlin
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Re: Martha Lev-Zion
#poland
LOUISE HAJDENBERG
I was saddened to hear of the loss of Martha Lev-Zion. Our paths crossed when
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she went to the conference in New York a few years past. Before that she had been very helpful to me, a novice researcher on this site. Because of her the names on the tombstones of the Talsi Latvia cemetery were translated >from pictures I had found. Louise Hajdenberg
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Re: Martha Lev-Zion
#poland
Emily Rosenberg
I have never met Martha but I will miss her. Her name is giant to me, doing
everything, thinking about everything, being everywhere. Emily Rosenberg in California
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LOUISE HAJDENBERG
I was saddened to hear of the loss of Martha Lev-Zion. Our paths crossed when
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she went to the conference in New York a few years past. Before that she had been very helpful to me, a novice researcher on this site. Because of her the names on the tombstones of the Talsi Latvia cemetery were translated >from pictures I had found. Louise Hajdenberg
Subject: Martha Lev-Zion
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Emily Rosenberg
I have never met Martha but I will miss her. Her name is giant to me, doing
everything, thinking about everything, being everywhere. Emily Rosenberg in California
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Radio Broadcast - A.J. Jacobs on Crowdsourcing & the new genealogy boom
#germany
John Paul Lowens <jplowens@...>
Judy Russell, the Legal Genealogist, participated in a radio program
on NPR ( National Public Radio) today- February 13. Along with Judy on the program were A.J. Jacobs, editor at large at Esquire Magazine and author, and Dr. Spencer Wells of National Geographic's Genographic Project on the program entitled, Crowdsourcing And The New Genealogy Boom. A.J. Jacobs is the author of the recent New York Timesarticle on Crowd-Sourcing, "Are You My Cousin" (http://tinyurl.com/kudtdx3) which I posted about on February 2nd . If you are like me and read Judy's blog announcement after the radio program see: http://tinyurl.com/moopnrr Original url: http://www.legalgenealogist.com/blog/2014/02/13/genealogy-on-npr/?utm_source=feedburner&;utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheLegalGenealogist+%28The+Legal+Genealogist%29 you can hear it as its archived on On Point with Tom Ashbrook. Go to http://www.npr.org/rss/podcast/podcast_detail.php?siteId=5183210 and click on download -if you go after another program is aired, then look for the title of the session (see above Crowdsourcing....) and listen. Jan Meisels Allen janmallen@att.net Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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German SIG #Germany Radio Broadcast - A.J. Jacobs on Crowdsourcing & the new genealogy boom
#germany
John Paul Lowens <jplowens@...>
Judy Russell, the Legal Genealogist, participated in a radio program
on NPR ( National Public Radio) today- February 13. Along with Judy on the program were A.J. Jacobs, editor at large at Esquire Magazine and author, and Dr. Spencer Wells of National Geographic's Genographic Project on the program entitled, Crowdsourcing And The New Genealogy Boom. A.J. Jacobs is the author of the recent New York Timesarticle on Crowd-Sourcing, "Are You My Cousin" (http://tinyurl.com/kudtdx3) which I posted about on February 2nd . If you are like me and read Judy's blog announcement after the radio program see: http://tinyurl.com/moopnrr Original url: http://www.legalgenealogist.com/blog/2014/02/13/genealogy-on-npr/?utm_source=feedburner&;utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheLegalGenealogist+%28The+Legal+Genealogist%29 you can hear it as its archived on On Point with Tom Ashbrook. Go to http://www.npr.org/rss/podcast/podcast_detail.php?siteId=5183210 and click on download -if you go after another program is aired, then look for the title of the session (see above Crowdsourcing....) and listen. Jan Meisels Allen janmallen@att.net Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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