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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Finding Vital Records in the United States #general

Chuck Weinstein <cmw521@...>
 

There have been a number of postings in this forum and some of the SIG
Discussion Groups recently regarding finding birth, marriage, and death
records in various states. The easiest way to find out who to contact
and/or where to go to find records is via a Google search. Be specific, as
each state has its own rules, and many localities do, as well. A Google
search for "Los Angeles Death Records" will get you more specific
information than a search for "California Death Records". The answer to
where and at what costs you will apply to varies, especially according to
the year of the event. As an example, New York State has a 100 year privacy
rule on birth records. However, in New York City, birth records prior to
December 31, 1909 are held in the NYC Municipal Archives. Birth records
since 1910 are still held by the NY City Health Dept. The Municipal
Archives will get you a copy of any birth record they have (for a fee, of
course), and there is an index available, both at the Municipal Archives and
online (at www.italiangen.org). However, although birth records >from 1910
to 1913 are supposedly available to all, the health department will only
release NYC birth records they have after you justify your reason for
wanting it (and genealogy is not an acceptable reason). There is no
published index for births occurring after 1910 in New York City. Marriage
and death records are likewise different in NYC >from state law. Some states
have indices for vital records; others don't, and privacy rules, the
repository of various records, and costs and availability often differ from
town to town or county to county within a state. Many states and localities
have contracted with a company called Vital Check to provide records. You
will see that immediately in the Google search responses if the state you
are looking for has done so. Some states and/or localities will require a
personal appearance. Others will provide you a copy by mailing in a form.

Finally, the rules are changing. More and more states, under the guise that
vital records availability encourages identity theft, are extending privacy
rules. Yet another reason to do a Google search if you don't know how to
obtain the record you seek. BTW, there are far easier ways to steal
identity than viewing vital records.

Chuck Weinstein
Bellport, NY (formerly >from San Francisco, CA)
Cmw521@...


Finding Vital Records in the United States #general

Chuck Weinstein <cmw521@...>
 

There have been a number of postings in this forum and some of the SIG
Discussion Groups recently regarding finding birth, marriage, and death
records in various states. The easiest way to find out who to contact
and/or where to go to find records is via a Google search. Be specific, as
each state has its own rules, and many localities do, as well. A Google
search for "Los Angeles Death Records" will get you more specific
information than a search for "California Death Records". The answer to
where and at what costs you will apply to varies, especially according to
the year of the event. As an example, New York State has a 100 year privacy
rule on birth records. However, in New York City, birth records prior to
December 31, 1909 are held in the NYC Municipal Archives. Birth records
since 1910 are still held by the NY City Health Dept. The Municipal
Archives will get you a copy of any birth record they have (for a fee, of
course), and there is an index available, both at the Municipal Archives and
online (at www.italiangen.org). However, although birth records >from 1910
to 1913 are supposedly available to all, the health department will only
release NYC birth records they have after you justify your reason for
wanting it (and genealogy is not an acceptable reason). There is no
published index for births occurring after 1910 in New York City. Marriage
and death records are likewise different in NYC >from state law. Some states
have indices for vital records; others don't, and privacy rules, the
repository of various records, and costs and availability often differ from
town to town or county to county within a state. Many states and localities
have contracted with a company called Vital Check to provide records. You
will see that immediately in the Google search responses if the state you
are looking for has done so. Some states and/or localities will require a
personal appearance. Others will provide you a copy by mailing in a form.

Finally, the rules are changing. More and more states, under the guise that
vital records availability encourages identity theft, are extending privacy
rules. Yet another reason to do a Google search if you don't know how to
obtain the record you seek. BTW, there are far easier ways to steal
identity than viewing vital records.

Chuck Weinstein
Bellport, NY (formerly >from San Francisco, CA)
Cmw521@...


Romania SIG #Romania ViewMate translation request:Yiddish #romania

Steve Herberman
 

Hello Genners!

My great grandfather Hersh Herberman wrote a letter in yiddish, presumably to his nephew
in Toronto, most likely around 1915. Hersh and family were >from Iasi Romania and it's not
clear when he moved to Argentina to be with the rest of his family. I'm hoping that this letter
can shed some light on where he was living at the time. I have other letters that are written in
Romanian that I will post on ViewMate this week. Any help with any of them is greatly
appreciated.

The images of the letter can be viewed >from both of these links, half the letter on each:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32336

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32337

Thank you very much,
Steve Herberman
Chevy Chase MD USA


ViewMate translation request:Yiddish #romania

Steve Herberman
 

Hello Genners!

My great grandfather Hersh Herberman wrote a letter in yiddish, presumably to his nephew
in Toronto, most likely around 1915. Hersh and family were >from Iasi Romania and it's not
clear when he moved to Argentina to be with the rest of his family. I'm hoping that this letter
can shed some light on where he was living at the time. I have other letters that are written in
Romanian that I will post on ViewMate this week. Any help with any of them is greatly
appreciated.

The images of the letter can be viewed >from both of these links, half the letter on each:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32336

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32337

Thank you very much,
Steve Herberman
Chevy Chase MD USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Fwd: Shoah Memorial, Paris, Ile-de-France #general

Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky <eve.line.blum@...>
 

Three persons named Rosa or Rose ROSENBERG were deported >from France
during WWII :
Rosa ROSENBERG born 06 September 1861 in BREISACH (France)
Rose ROSENBERG born 16 July 1887 in BUDEWHAUSEN (maybe a mispelling)
Rosa ROSENBERG born 18 March 1900 in RZESZOW

More on http://bdi.memorialdelashoah.org/internet/jsp/core/MmsGlobalSearch.jsp
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)


Shoah Memorial, Paris, Ile-de-France #general

Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky <eve.line.blum@...>
 

Three persons named Rosa or Rose ROSENBERG were deported >from France
during WWII :
Rosa ROSENBERG born 06 September 1861 in BREISACH (France)
Rose ROSENBERG born 16 July 1887 in BUDEWHAUSEN (maybe a mispelling)
Rosa ROSENBERG born 18 March 1900 in RZESZOW

More on http://bdi.memorialdelashoah.org/internet/jsp/core/MmsGlobalSearch.jsp
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Shoah Memorial, Paris, Isle-de-France #general

Roger Lustig
 

I wouldn't give too much weight to information on such a memorial, since
it doesn't give sufficient identifying information, let alone sources.
Besides, carved stone is hard to edit. As I recall, there's more than
one obvious misspelling on that memorial.

For your sort of question we have the German Memorial Book. (I'm
presuming your great-aunt was German.)

http://www.bundesarchiv.de/gedenkbuch/directory.html

A quick search shows 16 Rosa ROSENBERGs. >from what you've said elsewhere
I'd guess that you're referring to Rosa ROSENBERG geb. LEVI, born in
Berolzheim on 13 Dec 1894.

If you have evidence that they have the wrong date at the Gedenkbuch
site, they'll accept corrections with supporting evidence. In this case
they may owe you an explanation, because they seem to have two different
dates and places of death.

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA
research coordinator, GerSIG

On 2/21/2014 11:05 PM, Lin wrote:
Some of my relatives who died during the Holocaust have ancestry.com
"hints" which link them to the Shoah Memorial at Isle-de-France. The
birth dates only give years and are not quite right. Is there any way to
find out more information to find out if these are my relatives.
snip.................


Re: Shoah Memorial, Paris, Isle-de-France #general

Roger Lustig
 

I wouldn't give too much weight to information on such a memorial, since
it doesn't give sufficient identifying information, let alone sources.
Besides, carved stone is hard to edit. As I recall, there's more than
one obvious misspelling on that memorial.

For your sort of question we have the German Memorial Book. (I'm
presuming your great-aunt was German.)

http://www.bundesarchiv.de/gedenkbuch/directory.html

A quick search shows 16 Rosa ROSENBERGs. >from what you've said elsewhere
I'd guess that you're referring to Rosa ROSENBERG geb. LEVI, born in
Berolzheim on 13 Dec 1894.

If you have evidence that they have the wrong date at the Gedenkbuch
site, they'll accept corrections with supporting evidence. In this case
they may owe you an explanation, because they seem to have two different
dates and places of death.

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA
research coordinator, GerSIG

On 2/21/2014 11:05 PM, Lin wrote:
Some of my relatives who died during the Holocaust have ancestry.com
"hints" which link them to the Shoah Memorial at Isle-de-France. The
birth dates only give years and are not quite right. Is there any way to
find out more information to find out if these are my relatives.
snip.................


Re: Braude/Zunshine/Gorelik letters from Belorussian on-line auction #belarus

JHRG of Belarus <belshtetl@...>
 

Hi All,
There is a bid for six (6) original letters on a Belorussian on-line
website. They were written by the BRAUDE family members from
Beshenkovichy between 1908 and 1914.Also note that this same bid features
some other items as follows:
A 1916 post office receipt of a money transfer to Rivka GORELIK,
daughter of Yankel GORELIK >from Parichy, and it contains her original sig-
ature in Russian.. A 1915 letter >from Vinnitza addressed to Movsha
ZUNSHINE of Brest who was selling baskets, making a business offer
to Mr. ZUNSHINE about buying baskets >from him.If anyone has an interest
in these letters,please contact us. Thank you.

Yuri Dorn
Coordinator of Jewish Heritage Research Group in Belarus
Minsk
www.jhrgbelarus.org


Belarus SIG #Belarus RE: Braude/Zunshine/Gorelik letters from Belorussian on-line auction #belarus

JHRG of Belarus <belshtetl@...>
 

Hi All,
There is a bid for six (6) original letters on a Belorussian on-line
website. They were written by the BRAUDE family members from
Beshenkovichy between 1908 and 1914.Also note that this same bid features
some other items as follows:
A 1916 post office receipt of a money transfer to Rivka GORELIK,
daughter of Yankel GORELIK >from Parichy, and it contains her original sig-
ature in Russian.. A 1915 letter >from Vinnitza addressed to Movsha
ZUNSHINE of Brest who was selling baskets, making a business offer
to Mr. ZUNSHINE about buying baskets >from him.If anyone has an interest
in these letters,please contact us. Thank you.

Yuri Dorn
Coordinator of Jewish Heritage Research Group in Belarus
Minsk
www.jhrgbelarus.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Shoah Memorial, Paris, Isle-de-France #general

Lin <lin2@...>
 

Some of my relatives who died during the Holocaust have ancestry.com
"hints" which link them to the Shoah Memorial at Isle-de-France. The
birth dates only give years and are not quite right. Is there any way to
find out more information to find out if these are my relatives.
Example:
My great-aunt Rosa LEVI ROSENBERG was born in 1895. The date on the
Shoah memorial says Rosa ROSENBERG was born in 1900 and died in 1942. We
know she perished in the Shoah but not when. The information is on
find-a-grave.

Does anyone know how to find out if this is my relative. I could not
find how to contact the memorial and have no idea how to proceed. Should
I assume it is not my relative due to the date? But how would they know
if the exact date of someone who died in the Holocaust.

Thank you so much,
Sincerely,
Lin Herz
Palm Bay, Florida


Shoah Memorial, Paris, Isle-de-France #general

Lin <lin2@...>
 

Some of my relatives who died during the Holocaust have ancestry.com
"hints" which link them to the Shoah Memorial at Isle-de-France. The
birth dates only give years and are not quite right. Is there any way to
find out more information to find out if these are my relatives.
Example:
My great-aunt Rosa LEVI ROSENBERG was born in 1895. The date on the
Shoah memorial says Rosa ROSENBERG was born in 1900 and died in 1942. We
know she perished in the Shoah but not when. The information is on
find-a-grave.

Does anyone know how to find out if this is my relative. I could not
find how to contact the memorial and have no idea how to proceed. Should
I assume it is not my relative due to the date? But how would they know
if the exact date of someone who died in the Holocaust.

Thank you so much,
Sincerely,
Lin Herz
Palm Bay, Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rabbi David of Lomzha #general

Neil@...
 

Looking for information on Chief Rabbi of Lomzha in late 19th cent.
who was son of mother of the Pretz family by either her first husband
(Joseph Benjamin Rabbi of Glusk) or her second ( Zusha of Lublin.

Neil Rosenstein


Rabbi David of Lomzha #general

Neil@...
 

Looking for information on Chief Rabbi of Lomzha in late 19th cent.
who was son of mother of the Pretz family by either her first husband
(Joseph Benjamin Rabbi of Glusk) or her second ( Zusha of Lublin.

Neil Rosenstein


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Frankel of Strelisk & Toronto #general

Neil@...
 

Looking for descendants of -
R. Asher Isaiah Frankel, 1879-1942, married Bathsheva, daughter of
R.Levi Isaac Klinkop, Admur Strelisk, succeeded his father-in-law as
Admur Strelisk and later settled in Stryj in 1914.
He had 4 daughters as well as sons -
1. Levi Isaac Frankel, a writer.
2. Dr. Israel Frankel, librarian at the Toronto Jewish Library.

Neil Rosenstein


Frankel of Strelisk & Toronto #general

Neil@...
 

Looking for descendants of -
R. Asher Isaiah Frankel, 1879-1942, married Bathsheva, daughter of
R.Levi Isaac Klinkop, Admur Strelisk, succeeded his father-in-law as
Admur Strelisk and later settled in Stryj in 1914.
He had 4 daughters as well as sons -
1. Levi Isaac Frankel, a writer.
2. Dr. Israel Frankel, librarian at the Toronto Jewish Library.

Neil Rosenstein


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Jews of Bath #unitedkingdom

apollo47@...
 

I need a look-up in 'Jews of Bath' vol 35 (by Malcolm Brown and Judith
Samuel) for obituary of Samuel Saunders - which is either on page xxxiii, or
96, or 437 (sorry, I was given conflicting information so not sure of
correct page/s).

I am hoping this is my ancestral uncle who was an equilibrist (tight-rope
walker) in the mid-late 1800s in England and Ireland, and his brother
Abraham (my ancestor) was a famous circus proprietor.

I have been unable to locate this book in Australia so hoping someone in the
community can help!
Many thanks,
Caroline Cavanagh
Australia


Jews of Bath #unitedkingdom

apollo47@...
 

I need a look-up in 'Jews of Bath' vol 35 (by Malcolm Brown and Judith
Samuel) for obituary of Samuel Saunders - which is either on page xxxiii, or
96, or 437 (sorry, I was given conflicting information so not sure of
correct page/s).

I am hoping this is my ancestral uncle who was an equilibrist (tight-rope
walker) in the mid-late 1800s in England and Ireland, and his brother
Abraham (my ancestor) was a famous circus proprietor.

I have been unable to locate this book in Australia so hoping someone in the
community can help!
Many thanks,
Caroline Cavanagh
Australia


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia "Historical Maps of the Habsburg Empire" - MAPIRE a new cartography site #galicia

Pamela Weisberger
 

Announcing a new cartography website, "Historical Maps of the Hapsburg
Empire" or MAPIRE at:

http://mapire.staatsarchiv.at/en/

The site offers a selection of historical maps >from the Austro-Hungarian
Empire geo-referenced with present day maps (on Google or
OpenStreetMap) providing layering technology for researchers to compare
the past with the present.

Completed is the second military survey of Habsburg Empire and in
progress are the first and third surveys and cadastral surveys of Croatia
and Hungary. Project participants are the Austrian State Archives
(Osterreichisches Staatsarchiv) and Arcanum in Budapest.

There were two types of maps >from that time period: the military surveys
(typically scaled 1 to 28.800) and the more detailed cadastral maps
(scaled 1 to 2.880), with both of them covering the entire territory. The
original manuscript map sheets of the military surveys can be found
in the Austrian National Archives, but cadastral (extremely details
property maps on the town level) are found in various archives of the
successor states. For example, cadastral maps for the province of Galicia
are held the following regional or historical archives: Krakow, Przemsyl,
Rzeszow in Poland and Lviv and Ternopil in Ukraine. (Examples of
Galician cadastral maps can be found in Gesher Galicia's map room:
http://maps.geshergalicia.org)

To use the site, scroll down. When you see the passing selection of maps,
click "complete view" on one that interests you. You can also scroll further
and choose "Complete View" to see the entire Empire in context, or
choose to focus on the following territories:

Bohemia
Bukovina
Coastal Zone
Croatia
Dalmatia
Galicia
Illyria
Lichtenstein
Lombardy
Modena
Moravia
Parma
Silesia
Slavonia
Styria
Salzberg
Tyrol
Venice
Vorarlberg

Click on the area and then start zooming in. You can adjust the "opacity"
using the slider bar at the top of the page to switch views between the
historical map layered with the current GIS map. This feature is very
useful for those researching historical place names that may not show up
on current maps.

The Second (also known as Franciscan) Military Survey (1806-1809) has
outstanding quality and while not a cadastral survey, when you zoom in
at the closest range you will be able to view plots of land and buildings,
especially ones detailed along the banks of rivers that ran through these
communities.

Arcanum, based in Budapest, specializes in digitization projects, and has
already covered the entire collection of maps of the City Archives of
Budapest, the hand-written map collection of the Hungarian National
Library, and the cadastral maps of Hungarian Archives and Croatia.

A more thorough explanation of these maps can be found in the
"Digitized Maps of the Habsburg Empire" paper here:

http://mapire.staatsarchiv.at/static/pdf/mkf_booklet.pdf

Or the "Digitizing and Geo-Referencing of the Historical Cadastral Maps
(1856-60) of Hungary" here:

http://www.academia.edu/3614065/Digitizing_and_georeferencing_of_the_historical_cadastral_maps_1856-60_of_Hungary

[MODERATOR: Or http://tinyurl.com/Hung-maps1856-60 .]

The MAPIRE site is also available in German and Hungarian.

Pamela Weisberger
Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@...


"Historical Maps of the Habsburg Empire" - MAPIRE a new cartography site #galicia

Pamela Weisberger
 

Announcing a new cartography website, "Historical Maps of the Hapsburg
Empire" or MAPIRE at:

http://mapire.staatsarchiv.at/en/

The site offers a selection of historical maps >from the Austro-Hungarian
Empire geo-referenced with present day maps (on Google or
OpenStreetMap) providing layering technology for researchers to compare
the past with the present.

Completed is the second military survey of Habsburg Empire and in
progress are the first and third surveys and cadastral surveys of Croatia
and Hungary. Project participants are the Austrian State Archives
(Osterreichisches Staatsarchiv) and Arcanum in Budapest.

There were two types of maps >from that time period: the military surveys
(typically scaled 1 to 28.800) and the more detailed cadastral maps
(scaled 1 to 2.880), with both of them covering the entire territory. The
original manuscript map sheets of the military surveys can be found
in the Austrian National Archives, but cadastral (extremely details
property maps on the town level) are found in various archives of the
successor states. For example, cadastral maps for the province of Galicia
are held the following regional or historical archives: Krakow, Przemsyl,
Rzeszow in Poland and Lviv and Ternopil in Ukraine. (Examples of
Galician cadastral maps can be found in Gesher Galicia's map room:
http://maps.geshergalicia.org)

To use the site, scroll down. When you see the passing selection of maps,
click "complete view" on one that interests you. You can also scroll further
and choose "Complete View" to see the entire Empire in context, or
choose to focus on the following territories:

Bohemia
Bukovina
Coastal Zone
Croatia
Dalmatia
Galicia
Illyria
Lichtenstein
Lombardy
Modena
Moravia
Parma
Silesia
Slavonia
Styria
Salzberg
Tyrol
Venice
Vorarlberg

Click on the area and then start zooming in. You can adjust the "opacity"
using the slider bar at the top of the page to switch views between the
historical map layered with the current GIS map. This feature is very
useful for those researching historical place names that may not show up
on current maps.

The Second (also known as Franciscan) Military Survey (1806-1809) has
outstanding quality and while not a cadastral survey, when you zoom in
at the closest range you will be able to view plots of land and buildings,
especially ones detailed along the banks of rivers that ran through these
communities.

Arcanum, based in Budapest, specializes in digitization projects, and has
already covered the entire collection of maps of the City Archives of
Budapest, the hand-written map collection of the Hungarian National
Library, and the cadastral maps of Hungarian Archives and Croatia.

A more thorough explanation of these maps can be found in the
"Digitized Maps of the Habsburg Empire" paper here:

http://mapire.staatsarchiv.at/static/pdf/mkf_booklet.pdf

Or the "Digitizing and Geo-Referencing of the Historical Cadastral Maps
(1856-60) of Hungary" here:

http://www.academia.edu/3614065/Digitizing_and_georeferencing_of_the_historical_cadastral_maps_1856-60_of_Hungary

[MODERATOR: Or http://tinyurl.com/Hung-maps1856-60 .]

The MAPIRE site is also available in German and Hungarian.

Pamela Weisberger
Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@...

132281 - 132300 of 673523