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20 year limit for German Burials ? #germany

Debby Gincig Painter
 

I found the below on findagrave.com while trying to locate family burials.
Is this really true?
If so, how does one find out what happened to family members buried?
Do they remove the bodies or bury new graves above them. Thank you,

Debby Painter, Michigan, USA <gincig@...>

Cemetery notes and/or description: Address:
Große Heimstraße 119, 44137 Innenstadt-West, Dortmund
...Please note that the final resting places in Germany are not eternal,
due to lack of space. This cemetery has a "period of repose" of 20
years. Once the time is up for a renewal of the "lease" the cemetery
administration will place a small sticker on the gravestone to alert the
family to contact the office of the cemetery. Unless the family of the
deceased pays for another period of 30 years, or the grave is of
historical importance (in that case the town will carry the costs), it
will be leveled and re-used. Leftover stones will be collected and
eventually crushed and used as gravel in road construction....


German SIG #Germany 20 year limit for German Burials ? #germany

Debby Gincig Painter
 

I found the below on findagrave.com while trying to locate family burials.
Is this really true?
If so, how does one find out what happened to family members buried?
Do they remove the bodies or bury new graves above them. Thank you,

Debby Painter, Michigan, USA <gincig@...>

Cemetery notes and/or description: Address:
Große Heimstraße 119, 44137 Innenstadt-West, Dortmund
...Please note that the final resting places in Germany are not eternal,
due to lack of space. This cemetery has a "period of repose" of 20
years. Once the time is up for a renewal of the "lease" the cemetery
administration will place a small sticker on the gravestone to alert the
family to contact the office of the cemetery. Unless the family of the
deceased pays for another period of 30 years, or the grave is of
historical importance (in that case the town will carry the costs), it
will be leveled and re-used. Leftover stones will be collected and
eventually crushed and used as gravel in road construction....


Help to locate family in Israel.. #general

Rosanne Leeson
 

Dear All,

I am trying to assist a friend to locate a long-lost family member in
Israel, He had been reported as being killed in a battle, but has
recently turned up as one who came to visit the old family home in
Barchfeld am Werra,Germany, to see about placing a Stolperstein at
what had been the family residence there. My friend left there
right after Kristallnacht, as young boy, with his parents.

His name is/was Dany Aron, or possibly Aharon. He is the son of
Gideon and Bertel (?) Aron, and was born in Regbah, Israel about 1958.
He had a younger brother, Yehuda.

There are a number of Dan Aron (Aharon) listed in the Israeli telephone
book. It is impossible >from the little information that we have, and
the small amount in the Israeli directory, to know which might be which.
If there is someone there who might recognize this person, or know of
this family, my friend would be deeply grateful. He is so desirous of
reestablishing the connection, and finding missing family!

Thank you,
Rosanne Leeson
Palo Altoa CA USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help to locate family in Israel.. #general

Rosanne Leeson
 

Dear All,

I am trying to assist a friend to locate a long-lost family member in
Israel, He had been reported as being killed in a battle, but has
recently turned up as one who came to visit the old family home in
Barchfeld am Werra,Germany, to see about placing a Stolperstein at
what had been the family residence there. My friend left there
right after Kristallnacht, as young boy, with his parents.

His name is/was Dany Aron, or possibly Aharon. He is the son of
Gideon and Bertel (?) Aron, and was born in Regbah, Israel about 1958.
He had a younger brother, Yehuda.

There are a number of Dan Aron (Aharon) listed in the Israeli telephone
book. It is impossible >from the little information that we have, and
the small amount in the Israeli directory, to know which might be which.
If there is someone there who might recognize this person, or know of
this family, my friend would be deeply grateful. He is so desirous of
reestablishing the connection, and finding missing family!

Thank you,
Rosanne Leeson
Palo Altoa CA USA


Ancestry.co.uk Free access to UK records Over the Weekend #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

As part of sponsoring Who Do You Think You Are currently going on in the UK,
Ancestry.co.uk announced free access to their UK records through this
weekend-- through 23.59 GMT on 23 February 2014-check for your local time
that is analogous to ~midnight February 23 GMT on the world clock
[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ ]

To access the free records in the site Go to: http://tinyurl.com/k8qr2qv
Original url:
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/free-access?AID=11628819&PID=1793701

To view these records you will need to register for free with Ancestry.co.uk
with your name and email address. They will then send you a user name and
password to access the records.

I am not affiliated with Ancestry.com or its affiliates and this notice is
posted solely for the information of the reader.


Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ancestry.co.uk Free access to UK records Over the Weekend #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

As part of sponsoring Who Do You Think You Are currently going on in the UK,
Ancestry.co.uk announced free access to their UK records through this
weekend-- through 23.59 GMT on 23 February 2014-check for your local time
that is analogous to ~midnight February 23 GMT on the world clock
[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ ]

To access the free records in the site Go to: http://tinyurl.com/k8qr2qv
Original url:
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/free-access?AID=11628819&PID=1793701

To view these records you will need to register for free with Ancestry.co.uk
with your name and email address. They will then send you a user name and
password to access the records.

I am not affiliated with Ancestry.com or its affiliates and this notice is
posted solely for the information of the reader.


Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Finding Vital Records in the United States #general

Chuck Weinstein <cmw521@...>
 

There have been a number of postings in this forum and some of the SIG
Discussion Groups recently regarding finding birth, marriage, and death
records in various states. The easiest way to find out who to contact
and/or where to go to find records is via a Google search. Be specific, as
each state has its own rules, and many localities do, as well. A Google
search for "Los Angeles Death Records" will get you more specific
information than a search for "California Death Records". The answer to
where and at what costs you will apply to varies, especially according to
the year of the event. As an example, New York State has a 100 year privacy
rule on birth records. However, in New York City, birth records prior to
December 31, 1909 are held in the NYC Municipal Archives. Birth records
since 1910 are still held by the NY City Health Dept. The Municipal
Archives will get you a copy of any birth record they have (for a fee, of
course), and there is an index available, both at the Municipal Archives and
online (at www.italiangen.org). However, although birth records >from 1910
to 1913 are supposedly available to all, the health department will only
release NYC birth records they have after you justify your reason for
wanting it (and genealogy is not an acceptable reason). There is no
published index for births occurring after 1910 in New York City. Marriage
and death records are likewise different in NYC >from state law. Some states
have indices for vital records; others don't, and privacy rules, the
repository of various records, and costs and availability often differ from
town to town or county to county within a state. Many states and localities
have contracted with a company called Vital Check to provide records. You
will see that immediately in the Google search responses if the state you
are looking for has done so. Some states and/or localities will require a
personal appearance. Others will provide you a copy by mailing in a form.

Finally, the rules are changing. More and more states, under the guise that
vital records availability encourages identity theft, are extending privacy
rules. Yet another reason to do a Google search if you don't know how to
obtain the record you seek. BTW, there are far easier ways to steal
identity than viewing vital records.

Chuck Weinstein
Bellport, NY (formerly >from San Francisco, CA)
Cmw521@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Finding Vital Records in the United States #general

Chuck Weinstein <cmw521@...>
 

There have been a number of postings in this forum and some of the SIG
Discussion Groups recently regarding finding birth, marriage, and death
records in various states. The easiest way to find out who to contact
and/or where to go to find records is via a Google search. Be specific, as
each state has its own rules, and many localities do, as well. A Google
search for "Los Angeles Death Records" will get you more specific
information than a search for "California Death Records". The answer to
where and at what costs you will apply to varies, especially according to
the year of the event. As an example, New York State has a 100 year privacy
rule on birth records. However, in New York City, birth records prior to
December 31, 1909 are held in the NYC Municipal Archives. Birth records
since 1910 are still held by the NY City Health Dept. The Municipal
Archives will get you a copy of any birth record they have (for a fee, of
course), and there is an index available, both at the Municipal Archives and
online (at www.italiangen.org). However, although birth records >from 1910
to 1913 are supposedly available to all, the health department will only
release NYC birth records they have after you justify your reason for
wanting it (and genealogy is not an acceptable reason). There is no
published index for births occurring after 1910 in New York City. Marriage
and death records are likewise different in NYC >from state law. Some states
have indices for vital records; others don't, and privacy rules, the
repository of various records, and costs and availability often differ from
town to town or county to county within a state. Many states and localities
have contracted with a company called Vital Check to provide records. You
will see that immediately in the Google search responses if the state you
are looking for has done so. Some states and/or localities will require a
personal appearance. Others will provide you a copy by mailing in a form.

Finally, the rules are changing. More and more states, under the guise that
vital records availability encourages identity theft, are extending privacy
rules. Yet another reason to do a Google search if you don't know how to
obtain the record you seek. BTW, there are far easier ways to steal
identity than viewing vital records.

Chuck Weinstein
Bellport, NY (formerly >from San Francisco, CA)
Cmw521@...


ViewMate translation request:Yiddish #romania

Steve Herberman
 

Hello Genners!

My great grandfather Hersh Herberman wrote a letter in yiddish, presumably to his nephew
in Toronto, most likely around 1915. Hersh and family were >from Iasi Romania and it's not
clear when he moved to Argentina to be with the rest of his family. I'm hoping that this letter
can shed some light on where he was living at the time. I have other letters that are written in
Romanian that I will post on ViewMate this week. Any help with any of them is greatly
appreciated.

The images of the letter can be viewed >from both of these links, half the letter on each:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32336

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32337

Thank you very much,
Steve Herberman
Chevy Chase MD USA


Romania SIG #Romania ViewMate translation request:Yiddish #romania

Steve Herberman
 

Hello Genners!

My great grandfather Hersh Herberman wrote a letter in yiddish, presumably to his nephew
in Toronto, most likely around 1915. Hersh and family were >from Iasi Romania and it's not
clear when he moved to Argentina to be with the rest of his family. I'm hoping that this letter
can shed some light on where he was living at the time. I have other letters that are written in
Romanian that I will post on ViewMate this week. Any help with any of them is greatly
appreciated.

The images of the letter can be viewed >from both of these links, half the letter on each:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32336

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32337

Thank you very much,
Steve Herberman
Chevy Chase MD USA


Shoah Memorial, Paris, Ile-de-France #general

Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky <eve.line.blum@...>
 

Three persons named Rosa or Rose ROSENBERG were deported >from France
during WWII :
Rosa ROSENBERG born 06 September 1861 in BREISACH (France)
Rose ROSENBERG born 16 July 1887 in BUDEWHAUSEN (maybe a mispelling)
Rosa ROSENBERG born 18 March 1900 in RZESZOW

More on http://bdi.memorialdelashoah.org/internet/jsp/core/MmsGlobalSearch.jsp
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Fwd: Shoah Memorial, Paris, Ile-de-France #general

Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky <eve.line.blum@...>
 

Three persons named Rosa or Rose ROSENBERG were deported >from France
during WWII :
Rosa ROSENBERG born 06 September 1861 in BREISACH (France)
Rose ROSENBERG born 16 July 1887 in BUDEWHAUSEN (maybe a mispelling)
Rosa ROSENBERG born 18 March 1900 in RZESZOW

More on http://bdi.memorialdelashoah.org/internet/jsp/core/MmsGlobalSearch.jsp
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)


Re: Shoah Memorial, Paris, Isle-de-France #general

Roger Lustig
 

I wouldn't give too much weight to information on such a memorial, since
it doesn't give sufficient identifying information, let alone sources.
Besides, carved stone is hard to edit. As I recall, there's more than
one obvious misspelling on that memorial.

For your sort of question we have the German Memorial Book. (I'm
presuming your great-aunt was German.)

http://www.bundesarchiv.de/gedenkbuch/directory.html

A quick search shows 16 Rosa ROSENBERGs. >from what you've said elsewhere
I'd guess that you're referring to Rosa ROSENBERG geb. LEVI, born in
Berolzheim on 13 Dec 1894.

If you have evidence that they have the wrong date at the Gedenkbuch
site, they'll accept corrections with supporting evidence. In this case
they may owe you an explanation, because they seem to have two different
dates and places of death.

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA
research coordinator, GerSIG

On 2/21/2014 11:05 PM, Lin wrote:
Some of my relatives who died during the Holocaust have ancestry.com
"hints" which link them to the Shoah Memorial at Isle-de-France. The
birth dates only give years and are not quite right. Is there any way to
find out more information to find out if these are my relatives.
snip.................


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Shoah Memorial, Paris, Isle-de-France #general

Roger Lustig
 

I wouldn't give too much weight to information on such a memorial, since
it doesn't give sufficient identifying information, let alone sources.
Besides, carved stone is hard to edit. As I recall, there's more than
one obvious misspelling on that memorial.

For your sort of question we have the German Memorial Book. (I'm
presuming your great-aunt was German.)

http://www.bundesarchiv.de/gedenkbuch/directory.html

A quick search shows 16 Rosa ROSENBERGs. >from what you've said elsewhere
I'd guess that you're referring to Rosa ROSENBERG geb. LEVI, born in
Berolzheim on 13 Dec 1894.

If you have evidence that they have the wrong date at the Gedenkbuch
site, they'll accept corrections with supporting evidence. In this case
they may owe you an explanation, because they seem to have two different
dates and places of death.

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA
research coordinator, GerSIG

On 2/21/2014 11:05 PM, Lin wrote:
Some of my relatives who died during the Holocaust have ancestry.com
"hints" which link them to the Shoah Memorial at Isle-de-France. The
birth dates only give years and are not quite right. Is there any way to
find out more information to find out if these are my relatives.
snip.................


Re: Braude/Zunshine/Gorelik letters from Belorussian on-line auction #belarus

JHRG of Belarus <belshtetl@...>
 

Hi All,
There is a bid for six (6) original letters on a Belorussian on-line
website. They were written by the BRAUDE family members from
Beshenkovichy between 1908 and 1914.Also note that this same bid features
some other items as follows:
A 1916 post office receipt of a money transfer to Rivka GORELIK,
daughter of Yankel GORELIK >from Parichy, and it contains her original sig-
ature in Russian.. A 1915 letter >from Vinnitza addressed to Movsha
ZUNSHINE of Brest who was selling baskets, making a business offer
to Mr. ZUNSHINE about buying baskets >from him.If anyone has an interest
in these letters,please contact us. Thank you.

Yuri Dorn
Coordinator of Jewish Heritage Research Group in Belarus
Minsk
www.jhrgbelarus.org


Belarus SIG #Belarus RE: Braude/Zunshine/Gorelik letters from Belorussian on-line auction #belarus

JHRG of Belarus <belshtetl@...>
 

Hi All,
There is a bid for six (6) original letters on a Belorussian on-line
website. They were written by the BRAUDE family members from
Beshenkovichy between 1908 and 1914.Also note that this same bid features
some other items as follows:
A 1916 post office receipt of a money transfer to Rivka GORELIK,
daughter of Yankel GORELIK >from Parichy, and it contains her original sig-
ature in Russian.. A 1915 letter >from Vinnitza addressed to Movsha
ZUNSHINE of Brest who was selling baskets, making a business offer
to Mr. ZUNSHINE about buying baskets >from him.If anyone has an interest
in these letters,please contact us. Thank you.

Yuri Dorn
Coordinator of Jewish Heritage Research Group in Belarus
Minsk
www.jhrgbelarus.org


Shoah Memorial, Paris, Isle-de-France #general

Lin <lin2@...>
 

Some of my relatives who died during the Holocaust have ancestry.com
"hints" which link them to the Shoah Memorial at Isle-de-France. The
birth dates only give years and are not quite right. Is there any way to
find out more information to find out if these are my relatives.
Example:
My great-aunt Rosa LEVI ROSENBERG was born in 1895. The date on the
Shoah memorial says Rosa ROSENBERG was born in 1900 and died in 1942. We
know she perished in the Shoah but not when. The information is on
find-a-grave.

Does anyone know how to find out if this is my relative. I could not
find how to contact the memorial and have no idea how to proceed. Should
I assume it is not my relative due to the date? But how would they know
if the exact date of someone who died in the Holocaust.

Thank you so much,
Sincerely,
Lin Herz
Palm Bay, Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Shoah Memorial, Paris, Isle-de-France #general

Lin <lin2@...>
 

Some of my relatives who died during the Holocaust have ancestry.com
"hints" which link them to the Shoah Memorial at Isle-de-France. The
birth dates only give years and are not quite right. Is there any way to
find out more information to find out if these are my relatives.
Example:
My great-aunt Rosa LEVI ROSENBERG was born in 1895. The date on the
Shoah memorial says Rosa ROSENBERG was born in 1900 and died in 1942. We
know she perished in the Shoah but not when. The information is on
find-a-grave.

Does anyone know how to find out if this is my relative. I could not
find how to contact the memorial and have no idea how to proceed. Should
I assume it is not my relative due to the date? But how would they know
if the exact date of someone who died in the Holocaust.

Thank you so much,
Sincerely,
Lin Herz
Palm Bay, Florida


Rabbi David of Lomzha #general

Neil@...
 

Looking for information on Chief Rabbi of Lomzha in late 19th cent.
who was son of mother of the Pretz family by either her first husband
(Joseph Benjamin Rabbi of Glusk) or her second ( Zusha of Lublin.

Neil Rosenstein


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rabbi David of Lomzha #general

Neil@...
 

Looking for information on Chief Rabbi of Lomzha in late 19th cent.
who was son of mother of the Pretz family by either her first husband
(Joseph Benjamin Rabbi of Glusk) or her second ( Zusha of Lublin.

Neil Rosenstein

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