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need researcher for Grodno archives
#general
Ruth Hyman <ruth.hyman@...>
Dear Genners:
I want to hire someone to do some research in the Grodno archives. There is only one researcher listed in the infofiles for Belarus. Has anyone found someone else who did good work? Ruth Hyman Rockville Centre, NY 11570 MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen need researcher for Grodno archives
#general
Ruth Hyman <ruth.hyman@...>
Dear Genners:
I want to hire someone to do some research in the Grodno archives. There is only one researcher listed in the infofiles for Belarus. Has anyone found someone else who did good work? Ruth Hyman Rockville Centre, NY 11570 MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately
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Re: Official records from nazi era may still contain illegal entries
#general
Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
You are asking the office to take primary source documents and discard them,
in favor of eliminating what you find offensive in history? Any time you want to know precisely when and where something happened, you look for primary source records. I have primary source records of my family in Germany - which also include the 'offensive' middle names. That is what happened there at that time. Wiping the history out of the records will not mean it didn't happen, and we should be reminded of it. If you do research you should be looking for primary source documents. When you find them, you don't ask for them to be changed - eliminating the primary source. Sally Bruckheimer Princeton, NJ "Although the photostat of his original familienstammbuch page was written in 1930 (and was attached to the official record), the town's typewritten portion STILL has his Nazi era middle name 'Israel' inserted. These additional middle names became mandatory for German Jews in January 1939. snip.....
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Official records from nazi era may still contain illegal entries
#general
Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
You are asking the office to take primary source documents and discard them,
in favor of eliminating what you find offensive in history? Any time you want to know precisely when and where something happened, you look for primary source records. I have primary source records of my family in Germany - which also include the 'offensive' middle names. That is what happened there at that time. Wiping the history out of the records will not mean it didn't happen, and we should be reminded of it. If you do research you should be looking for primary source documents. When you find them, you don't ask for them to be changed - eliminating the primary source. Sally Bruckheimer Princeton, NJ "Although the photostat of his original familienstammbuch page was written in 1930 (and was attached to the official record), the town's typewritten portion STILL has his Nazi era middle name 'Israel' inserted. These additional middle names became mandatory for German Jews in January 1939. snip.....
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New York City Delayed Births
#general
Mara Fein, PhD, CG <mfein@...>
I have identified a birth certificate for Manhattan >from 1898. The
certificate no. is listed as 6015D. It is my understanding that "D" stands for delayed and there are separate rolls for these delayed birth certificates, but I do not see any identification on FHL rolls that suggest that they contain them. Is anyone familiar with this issue who might tell me if they are on FHL microfilms and where, or if the search must be done at NYC Municipal Archives? Mara Fein Los Angeles, California mfein@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New York City Delayed Births
#general
Mara Fein, PhD, CG <mfein@...>
I have identified a birth certificate for Manhattan >from 1898. The
certificate no. is listed as 6015D. It is my understanding that "D" stands for delayed and there are separate rolls for these delayed birth certificates, but I do not see any identification on FHL rolls that suggest that they contain them. Is anyone familiar with this issue who might tell me if they are on FHL microfilms and where, or if the search must be done at NYC Municipal Archives? Mara Fein Los Angeles, California mfein@...
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Looking for PEARLMAN descendents in the UK and USA
#general
rcbernstein
Hi,
I have good reason to believe that I'm related to PEARLMANS/PERELMANS that left Eastern Europe during the late 19th century for London and NY and would like to get in touch with any of the people listed below. In particular, I'd like to get in touch with the UK PEARLMANS who are descendents of Morris PEARLMAN born in Europe aorund 1893. His parents and family were Aron and Sarah born around 1865 (and their children David, Hannah, Rebecca, Hyman, Morris, Emanuel, Alec, Rachel, Hillel, Dora, Fanny, Michael, and Barnett). The US PEARLMANS would be descendents of Motel and Freyda born around 1848 (and children Sarah, Rosa, Lea/Lillie). I would like to be in touch with descendents of any of these people. Thanks, Ruvane Bernstein. (Beitar, Israel)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for PEARLMAN descendents in the UK and USA
#general
rcbernstein
Hi,
I have good reason to believe that I'm related to PEARLMANS/PERELMANS that left Eastern Europe during the late 19th century for London and NY and would like to get in touch with any of the people listed below. In particular, I'd like to get in touch with the UK PEARLMANS who are descendents of Morris PEARLMAN born in Europe aorund 1893. His parents and family were Aron and Sarah born around 1865 (and their children David, Hannah, Rebecca, Hyman, Morris, Emanuel, Alec, Rachel, Hillel, Dora, Fanny, Michael, and Barnett). The US PEARLMANS would be descendents of Motel and Freyda born around 1848 (and children Sarah, Rosa, Lea/Lillie). I would like to be in touch with descendents of any of these people. Thanks, Ruvane Bernstein. (Beitar, Israel)
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Forced Additional Names for German Jews
#general
Fritz Neubauer
Dear Stephen,
you are right in being annoyed about the forced additional first name's occurrence in the birth certificate as mandated for the beginning of 1939. In fact, there was an order by the Allied Military Governments to do this right away after May 1945, but it was not done everywhere. Note that the deletion of the additional name does not mean that the note about the additional name would totally disappear, apparently you cannot just scratch out anything in official records of that kind, but there is then an additional note saying that the original note is being officially invalidated. Note that the original entry was not only added to the birth certificates, but also on the wedding licenses - in my research I have seen such records where the original note had not been amended. But as you say - on request - the authorities would add the revocation to any record. A few years ago, on a visit to one of the county depositories, the administrator mentioned that a few requests come in every year - just as yours did. Also - the name addition did not occur automatically - the German Jews had to write a letter with the announcement that they would now carry the additional name. Not writing the letter and not using the additional name could be punished with a fine, and this did occur. In the town where I live, all the hundreds of applications where miraculously conserved and recently discovered. Some of the phrasing used by the applicants is interesting. In some cases the letters even came >from abroad, e.g. >from New York or Shanghai, possibly on the request of the German embassy, when a new German passport was issued. This topic definitely would deserve more research. With kind regards Fritz Neubauer, North Germany Am 26.03.2014 07:04, schrieb JewishGen Discussion Group digest: My genealogy research client has an official copy of his birth record he personally obtained May 14, 1980 while visiting his small hometown insnip.............
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Forced Additional Names for German Jews
#general
Fritz Neubauer
Dear Stephen,
you are right in being annoyed about the forced additional first name's occurrence in the birth certificate as mandated for the beginning of 1939. In fact, there was an order by the Allied Military Governments to do this right away after May 1945, but it was not done everywhere. Note that the deletion of the additional name does not mean that the note about the additional name would totally disappear, apparently you cannot just scratch out anything in official records of that kind, but there is then an additional note saying that the original note is being officially invalidated. Note that the original entry was not only added to the birth certificates, but also on the wedding licenses - in my research I have seen such records where the original note had not been amended. But as you say - on request - the authorities would add the revocation to any record. A few years ago, on a visit to one of the county depositories, the administrator mentioned that a few requests come in every year - just as yours did. Also - the name addition did not occur automatically - the German Jews had to write a letter with the announcement that they would now carry the additional name. Not writing the letter and not using the additional name could be punished with a fine, and this did occur. In the town where I live, all the hundreds of applications where miraculously conserved and recently discovered. Some of the phrasing used by the applicants is interesting. In some cases the letters even came >from abroad, e.g. >from New York or Shanghai, possibly on the request of the German embassy, when a new German passport was issued. This topic definitely would deserve more research. With kind regards Fritz Neubauer, North Germany Am 26.03.2014 07:04, schrieb JewishGen Discussion Group digest: My genealogy research client has an official copy of his birth record he personally obtained May 14, 1980 while visiting his small hometown insnip.............
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Re: Town of "Seret" ?
#romania
Larry Tauber <ltauber@...>
Seret - Siret is in Romania and was formerly in the Bukovina province of
the Austria-Hungary Empire. Take a look at http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/pinkas_romania/rom2_00482.html and http://www.bukowina.org.il/Siret-1.html to start. You should consider looking also under the name Wechsler. There are several pages of testimony on the Yad VaShem website for victims named Wechsler who were from Siret.Larry Tauber -----Original Message----- From: Weschler [mailto:familywe@...]=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:22 PM To: Romania SIG Subject: RE:[rom-sig] Town of "Seret" ? Hello all, I'm struggling to know where to begin. All I know is that my father's side of the family originated in a town in which the name phonetically sounds like 'seret.' Can anyone help with this? Thanks Peter Weschler Watch JewishGen's video - click here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DnASSn4rDXh4 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ See you in Salt Lake City, Utah July 27 - August 1, 2014 for the 34th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy for more information and to register, please visit www.iajgs2014.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Support the work of YOUR Romania-SIG with a contribution to the JewishGen Romania SIG Funds HELP US TO HELP YOU http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_ca t=3D20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To send messages to ROM-SIG List: <rom-sig@...>. ROM-SIG is a part of JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy. Visit the ROM-SIG home page at < http://www.jewishgen.org/romsig >. Search for previous archived messages at: http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~sigspop ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------- This list is supported by JewishGen. Become a contributor:=20 < http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/contribute.html >. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *** Sign up now for value-added services! *** http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/ValueAdded.asp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For help in using JewishGen services visit the JewishGen Support Center at http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/Support.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Has JewishGen helped you connect with your family? We want to hear your story! Please email us at info@... today." This mailing may contain pointers to outside resources. No endorsement is implied by their inclusion here. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You are currently subscribed to rom-sig as: [ltauber@...] To change the format of our mailings, to stop/resume delivery (vacation), or to unsubscribe, please go to http://lyris.jewishgen.org/ListManager
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Romania SIG #Romania RE: Town of "Seret" ?
#romania
Larry Tauber <ltauber@...>
Seret - Siret is in Romania and was formerly in the Bukovina province of
the Austria-Hungary Empire. Take a look at http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/pinkas_romania/rom2_00482.html and http://www.bukowina.org.il/Siret-1.html to start. You should consider looking also under the name Wechsler. There are several pages of testimony on the Yad VaShem website for victims named Wechsler who were from Siret.Larry Tauber -----Original Message----- From: Weschler [mailto:familywe@...]=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:22 PM To: Romania SIG Subject: RE:[rom-sig] Town of "Seret" ? Hello all, I'm struggling to know where to begin. All I know is that my father's side of the family originated in a town in which the name phonetically sounds like 'seret.' Can anyone help with this? Thanks Peter Weschler Watch JewishGen's video - click here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DnASSn4rDXh4 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ See you in Salt Lake City, Utah July 27 - August 1, 2014 for the 34th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy for more information and to register, please visit www.iajgs2014.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Support the work of YOUR Romania-SIG with a contribution to the JewishGen Romania SIG Funds HELP US TO HELP YOU http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_ca t=3D20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To send messages to ROM-SIG List: <rom-sig@...>. ROM-SIG is a part of JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy. Visit the ROM-SIG home page at < http://www.jewishgen.org/romsig >. Search for previous archived messages at: http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~sigspop ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------- This list is supported by JewishGen. Become a contributor:=20 < http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/contribute.html >. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *** Sign up now for value-added services! *** http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/ValueAdded.asp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For help in using JewishGen services visit the JewishGen Support Center at http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/Support.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Has JewishGen helped you connect with your family? We want to hear your story! Please email us at info@... today." This mailing may contain pointers to outside resources. No endorsement is implied by their inclusion here. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You are currently subscribed to rom-sig as: [ltauber@...] To change the format of our mailings, to stop/resume delivery (vacation), or to unsubscribe, please go to http://lyris.jewishgen.org/ListManager
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Re: Town of "Seret" ?
#romania
luc.radu@...
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Romania SIG #Romania Re: Town of "Seret" ?
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GARMISE
#belarus
Peter Myers <nyprof@...>
In a cluster of towns SW of Minsk was a fairly large number of people
with the surname GARMISE or Garmiza, reputedly the Hebrew term for the city of Worms. They intermarried at least twice with the Klingon (Kleingon) family and the Levene family. Koidanov (Dzerzhinsk), Rubezhvichi, Stolbce. Yad Vashem archives indicates many were slaughtered, but a few had immigrated around 1890. We are trying to connect the dots of the several families in the US. My great-grandmother's Garmise brothers changed their names to Levy, another branch to Garson. Peter Myers Chatham, NY
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Belarus SIG #Belarus GARMISE
#belarus
Peter Myers <nyprof@...>
In a cluster of towns SW of Minsk was a fairly large number of people
with the surname GARMISE or Garmiza, reputedly the Hebrew term for the city of Worms. They intermarried at least twice with the Klingon (Kleingon) family and the Levene family. Koidanov (Dzerzhinsk), Rubezhvichi, Stolbce. Yad Vashem archives indicates many were slaughtered, but a few had immigrated around 1890. We are trying to connect the dots of the several families in the US. My great-grandmother's Garmise brothers changed their names to Levy, another branch to Garson. Peter Myers Chatham, NY
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New Novogrudok translated records + more volunteers needed
#belarus
Dena Whitman
Dear reseachers,
I already contacted everyone listed on the JGFF in the Novogrudok district, but also posting this message to the whole group in case anyone else is interested. The 1811 and 1816 Revision lists for the following towns have been translated: Novogrudok, Vselyub, Tsirin, Korelichi, Negnevichi, Lyubcha, Mir, Dvorets, Turets, Snov, Kroshin, Polonechka, Stolovichi, Yeremichi, Delyatichi, Polonka, Novaya Mysh. We are offering access to these newly translated records before they will be uploaded to the Belarus Database in 6 months. The cost is $25 per town, $100 for the entire district, over 8,000 records in total. All contributions to Jewishgen are tax deductible and can be donated to the Novogrudok uyezd project: http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=1 You can review all surname found in these lists here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmMG7AQQmZ-hdGxXLS1vZ1l4eGht RHBuWERINGlxUHc#gid=0 or: https://tinyurl.com/no5q5dc After contributing, please forward your receipt to me, and I'll send you your requested town(s). A huge thank you to our group of dedicated volunteer translators who made this project possible: Igor Apelsinov, Mark Tynkov, Yuri Dorn, and Rebecca Hauer We are in need of more volunteers to translate the 1818 supplementary revision list >from Russian. Please contact me if you can volunteer. Thank you, Dena Whitman New Jersey Denawhit@...
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Belarus SIG #Belarus New Novogrudok translated records + more volunteers needed
#belarus
Dena Whitman
Dear reseachers,
I already contacted everyone listed on the JGFF in the Novogrudok district, but also posting this message to the whole group in case anyone else is interested. The 1811 and 1816 Revision lists for the following towns have been translated: Novogrudok, Vselyub, Tsirin, Korelichi, Negnevichi, Lyubcha, Mir, Dvorets, Turets, Snov, Kroshin, Polonechka, Stolovichi, Yeremichi, Delyatichi, Polonka, Novaya Mysh. We are offering access to these newly translated records before they will be uploaded to the Belarus Database in 6 months. The cost is $25 per town, $100 for the entire district, over 8,000 records in total. All contributions to Jewishgen are tax deductible and can be donated to the Novogrudok uyezd project: http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=1 You can review all surname found in these lists here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmMG7AQQmZ-hdGxXLS1vZ1l4eGht RHBuWERINGlxUHc#gid=0 or: https://tinyurl.com/no5q5dc After contributing, please forward your receipt to me, and I'll send you your requested town(s). A huge thank you to our group of dedicated volunteer translators who made this project possible: Igor Apelsinov, Mark Tynkov, Yuri Dorn, and Rebecca Hauer We are in need of more volunteers to translate the 1818 supplementary revision list >from Russian. Please contact me if you can volunteer. Thank you, Dena Whitman New Jersey Denawhit@...
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Ellis Island. What's next?
#belarus
yael polat
... You go to JewishGen and you find a wonderful community of people
ready to help, to give advices, to find information and to support! Thank you so much to each and each of you. Yael Polat Israel DININ, SUISSA, BENADI, WENBERG, PODOLSKY, LOPATNIK ETC.
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Ellis Island. What's next?
#belarus
yael polat
... You go to JewishGen and you find a wonderful community of people
ready to help, to give advices, to find information and to support! Thank you so much to each and each of you. Yael Polat Israel DININ, SUISSA, BENADI, WENBERG, PODOLSKY, LOPATNIK ETC.
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