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need researcher for Grodno archives #general

Ruth Hyman <ruth.hyman@...>
 

Dear Genners:
I want to hire someone to do some research in the Grodno archives.
There is only one researcher listed in the infofiles for Belarus. Has
anyone found someone else who did good work?
Ruth Hyman
Rockville Centre, NY 11570

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen need researcher for Grodno archives #general

Ruth Hyman <ruth.hyman@...>
 

Dear Genners:
I want to hire someone to do some research in the Grodno archives.
There is only one researcher listed in the infofiles for Belarus. Has
anyone found someone else who did good work?
Ruth Hyman
Rockville Centre, NY 11570

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately


Re: Official records from nazi era may still contain illegal entries #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
 

You are asking the office to take primary source documents and discard them,
in favor of eliminating what you find offensive in history? Any time
you want to know precisely when and where something happened, you look
for primary source records. I have primary source records of my family
in Germany - which also include the 'offensive' middle names. That is
what happened there at that time. Wiping the history out of the records
will not mean it didn't happen, and we should be reminded of it.

If you do research you should be looking for primary source documents.
When you find them, you don't ask for them to be changed - eliminating
the primary source.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

"Although the photostat of his original familienstammbuch page
was written in 1930 (and was attached to the official record), the town's
typewritten portion STILL has his Nazi era middle name 'Israel'
inserted. These additional middle names became mandatory for German
Jews in January 1939.
snip.....


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Official records from nazi era may still contain illegal entries #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
 

You are asking the office to take primary source documents and discard them,
in favor of eliminating what you find offensive in history? Any time
you want to know precisely when and where something happened, you look
for primary source records. I have primary source records of my family
in Germany - which also include the 'offensive' middle names. That is
what happened there at that time. Wiping the history out of the records
will not mean it didn't happen, and we should be reminded of it.

If you do research you should be looking for primary source documents.
When you find them, you don't ask for them to be changed - eliminating
the primary source.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

"Although the photostat of his original familienstammbuch page
was written in 1930 (and was attached to the official record), the town's
typewritten portion STILL has his Nazi era middle name 'Israel'
inserted. These additional middle names became mandatory for German
Jews in January 1939.
snip.....


New York City Delayed Births #general

Mara Fein, PhD, CG <mfein@...>
 

I have identified a birth certificate for Manhattan >from 1898. The
certificate no. is listed as 6015D. It is my understanding that "D"
stands for delayed and there are separate rolls for these delayed birth
certificates, but I do not see any identification on FHL rolls that
suggest that they contain them.

Is anyone familiar with this issue who might tell me if they are on FHL
microfilms and where, or if the search must be done at NYC Municipal
Archives?

Mara Fein
Los Angeles, California
mfein@ancestry.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New York City Delayed Births #general

Mara Fein, PhD, CG <mfein@...>
 

I have identified a birth certificate for Manhattan >from 1898. The
certificate no. is listed as 6015D. It is my understanding that "D"
stands for delayed and there are separate rolls for these delayed birth
certificates, but I do not see any identification on FHL rolls that
suggest that they contain them.

Is anyone familiar with this issue who might tell me if they are on FHL
microfilms and where, or if the search must be done at NYC Municipal
Archives?

Mara Fein
Los Angeles, California
mfein@ancestry.com


Looking for PEARLMAN descendents in the UK and USA #general

rcbernstein
 

Hi,

I have good reason to believe that I'm related to PEARLMANS/PERELMANS that
left Eastern Europe during the late 19th century for London and NY and
would like to get in touch with any of the people listed below.

In particular, I'd like to get in touch with the UK PEARLMANS who are
descendents of Morris PEARLMAN born in Europe aorund 1893. His parents and
family were Aron and Sarah born around 1865 (and their children David,
Hannah, Rebecca, Hyman, Morris, Emanuel, Alec, Rachel, Hillel, Dora, Fanny,
Michael, and Barnett).

The US PEARLMANS would be descendents of Motel and Freyda born around 1848
(and children Sarah, Rosa, Lea/Lillie).

I would like to be in touch with descendents of any of these people.

Thanks,
Ruvane Bernstein.

(Beitar, Israel)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for PEARLMAN descendents in the UK and USA #general

rcbernstein
 

Hi,

I have good reason to believe that I'm related to PEARLMANS/PERELMANS that
left Eastern Europe during the late 19th century for London and NY and
would like to get in touch with any of the people listed below.

In particular, I'd like to get in touch with the UK PEARLMANS who are
descendents of Morris PEARLMAN born in Europe aorund 1893. His parents and
family were Aron and Sarah born around 1865 (and their children David,
Hannah, Rebecca, Hyman, Morris, Emanuel, Alec, Rachel, Hillel, Dora, Fanny,
Michael, and Barnett).

The US PEARLMANS would be descendents of Motel and Freyda born around 1848
(and children Sarah, Rosa, Lea/Lillie).

I would like to be in touch with descendents of any of these people.

Thanks,
Ruvane Bernstein.

(Beitar, Israel)


Forced Additional Names for German Jews #general

Fritz Neubauer
 

Dear Stephen,

you are right in being annoyed about the forced additional first name's
occurrence in the birth certificate as mandated for the beginning of
1939. In fact, there was an order by the Allied Military Governments to
do this right away after May 1945, but it was not done everywhere. Note
that the deletion of the additional name does not mean that the note
about the additional name would totally disappear, apparently you cannot
just scratch out anything in official records of that kind, but there is
then an additional note saying that the original note is being
officially invalidated. Note that the original entry was not only added
to the birth certificates, but also on the wedding licenses - in my
research I have seen such records where the original note had not been
amended. But as you say - on request - the authorities would add the
revocation to any record. A few years ago, on a visit to one of the
county depositories, the administrator mentioned that a few requests
come in every year - just as yours did.

Also - the name addition did not occur automatically - the German Jews
had to write a letter with the announcement that they would now carry
the additional name. Not writing the letter and not using the additional
name could be punished with a fine, and this did occur. In the town
where I live, all the hundreds of applications where miraculously
conserved and recently discovered. Some of the phrasing used by the
applicants is interesting. In some cases the letters even came >from
abroad, e.g. >from New York or Shanghai, possibly on the request of the
German embassy, when a new German passport was issued.

This topic definitely would deserve more research.

With kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany

Am 26.03.2014 07:04, schrieb JewishGen Discussion Group digest:
My genealogy research client has an official copy of his birth record he
personally obtained May 14, 1980 while visiting his small hometown in
Hessen. Although the photostat of his original familienstammbuch page
was written in 1930 (and was attached to the official record), the town's
typewritten portion STILL has his Nazi era middle name 'Israel'
inserted.
snip.............


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Forced Additional Names for German Jews #general

Fritz Neubauer
 

Dear Stephen,

you are right in being annoyed about the forced additional first name's
occurrence in the birth certificate as mandated for the beginning of
1939. In fact, there was an order by the Allied Military Governments to
do this right away after May 1945, but it was not done everywhere. Note
that the deletion of the additional name does not mean that the note
about the additional name would totally disappear, apparently you cannot
just scratch out anything in official records of that kind, but there is
then an additional note saying that the original note is being
officially invalidated. Note that the original entry was not only added
to the birth certificates, but also on the wedding licenses - in my
research I have seen such records where the original note had not been
amended. But as you say - on request - the authorities would add the
revocation to any record. A few years ago, on a visit to one of the
county depositories, the administrator mentioned that a few requests
come in every year - just as yours did.

Also - the name addition did not occur automatically - the German Jews
had to write a letter with the announcement that they would now carry
the additional name. Not writing the letter and not using the additional
name could be punished with a fine, and this did occur. In the town
where I live, all the hundreds of applications where miraculously
conserved and recently discovered. Some of the phrasing used by the
applicants is interesting. In some cases the letters even came >from
abroad, e.g. >from New York or Shanghai, possibly on the request of the
German embassy, when a new German passport was issued.

This topic definitely would deserve more research.

With kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany

Am 26.03.2014 07:04, schrieb JewishGen Discussion Group digest:
My genealogy research client has an official copy of his birth record he
personally obtained May 14, 1980 while visiting his small hometown in
Hessen. Although the photostat of his original familienstammbuch page
was written in 1930 (and was attached to the official record), the town's
typewritten portion STILL has his Nazi era middle name 'Israel'
inserted.
snip.............


Re: Town of "Seret" ? #romania

Larry Tauber <ltauber@...>
 

Seret - Siret is in Romania and was formerly in the Bukovina province of
the Austria-Hungary Empire. Take a look at
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/pinkas_romania/rom2_00482.html and
http://www.bukowina.org.il/Siret-1.html to start. You should consider
looking also under the name Wechsler. There are several pages of
testimony on the Yad VaShem website for victims named Wechsler who were
from Siret.
Larry Tauber

-----Original Message-----
From: Weschler [mailto:familywe@sbcglobal.net]=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:22 PM
To: Romania SIG
Subject: RE:[rom-sig] Town of "Seret" ?

Hello all,

I'm struggling to know where to begin. All I know is that my father's
side of the family originated in a town in which the name phonetically
sounds like 'seret.'
Can anyone help with this?
Thanks

Peter Weschler


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Romania SIG #Romania RE: Town of "Seret" ? #romania

Larry Tauber <ltauber@...>
 

Seret - Siret is in Romania and was formerly in the Bukovina province of
the Austria-Hungary Empire. Take a look at
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/pinkas_romania/rom2_00482.html and
http://www.bukowina.org.il/Siret-1.html to start. You should consider
looking also under the name Wechsler. There are several pages of
testimony on the Yad VaShem website for victims named Wechsler who were
from Siret.
Larry Tauber

-----Original Message-----
From: Weschler [mailto:familywe@sbcglobal.net]=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:22 PM
To: Romania SIG
Subject: RE:[rom-sig] Town of "Seret" ?

Hello all,

I'm struggling to know where to begin. All I know is that my father's
side of the family originated in a town in which the name phonetically
sounds like 'seret.'
Can anyone help with this?
Thanks

Peter Weschler


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DnASSn4rDXh4
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Re: Town of "Seret" ? #romania

luc.radu@...
 

On 3/25/14, 5:22 PM, "Weschler" <familywe@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


Romania SIG #Romania Re: Town of "Seret" ? #romania

luc.radu@...
 

On 3/25/14, 5:22 PM, "Weschler" <familywe@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


GARMISE #belarus

Peter Myers <nyprof@...>
 

In a cluster of towns SW of Minsk was a fairly large number of people
with the surname GARMISE or Garmiza, reputedly the Hebrew term for the
city of Worms. They intermarried at least twice with the Klingon
(Kleingon) family and the Levene family. Koidanov (Dzerzhinsk),
Rubezhvichi, Stolbce. Yad Vashem archives indicates many were
slaughtered, but a few had immigrated around 1890. We are trying to
connect the dots of the several families in the US. My
great-grandmother's Garmise brothers changed their names to Levy,
another branch to Garson.

Peter Myers
Chatham, NY


Belarus SIG #Belarus GARMISE #belarus

Peter Myers <nyprof@...>
 

In a cluster of towns SW of Minsk was a fairly large number of people
with the surname GARMISE or Garmiza, reputedly the Hebrew term for the
city of Worms. They intermarried at least twice with the Klingon
(Kleingon) family and the Levene family. Koidanov (Dzerzhinsk),
Rubezhvichi, Stolbce. Yad Vashem archives indicates many were
slaughtered, but a few had immigrated around 1890. We are trying to
connect the dots of the several families in the US. My
great-grandmother's Garmise brothers changed their names to Levy,
another branch to Garson.

Peter Myers
Chatham, NY


New Novogrudok translated records + more volunteers needed #belarus

Dena Whitman
 

Dear reseachers,

I already contacted everyone listed on the JGFF in the Novogrudok district, but
also posting this message to the whole group in case anyone else is interested.

The 1811 and 1816 Revision lists for the following towns have been translated:
Novogrudok, Vselyub, Tsirin, Korelichi, Negnevichi, Lyubcha, Mir, Dvorets, Turets,
Snov, Kroshin, Polonechka, Stolovichi, Yeremichi, Delyatichi, Polonka, Novaya Mysh.

We are offering access to these newly translated records before they will be
uploaded to the Belarus Database in 6 months. The cost is $25 per town, $100 for
the entire district, over 8,000 records in total.

All contributions to Jewishgen are tax deductible and can be donated to the
Novogrudok uyezd project:
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=1

You can review all surname found in these lists here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmMG7AQQmZ-hdGxXLS1vZ1l4eGht
RHBuWERINGlxUHc#gid=0

or:

https://tinyurl.com/no5q5dc

After contributing, please forward your receipt to me, and I'll send you your
requested town(s).

A huge thank you to our group of dedicated volunteer translators who made this project possible: Igor Apelsinov, Mark Tynkov, Yuri Dorn, and Rebecca Hauer

We are in need of more volunteers to translate the 1818 supplementary revision
list >from Russian. Please contact me if you can volunteer.

Thank you,
Dena Whitman
New Jersey
Denawhit@icloud.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus New Novogrudok translated records + more volunteers needed #belarus

Dena Whitman
 

Dear reseachers,

I already contacted everyone listed on the JGFF in the Novogrudok district, but
also posting this message to the whole group in case anyone else is interested.

The 1811 and 1816 Revision lists for the following towns have been translated:
Novogrudok, Vselyub, Tsirin, Korelichi, Negnevichi, Lyubcha, Mir, Dvorets, Turets,
Snov, Kroshin, Polonechka, Stolovichi, Yeremichi, Delyatichi, Polonka, Novaya Mysh.

We are offering access to these newly translated records before they will be
uploaded to the Belarus Database in 6 months. The cost is $25 per town, $100 for
the entire district, over 8,000 records in total.

All contributions to Jewishgen are tax deductible and can be donated to the
Novogrudok uyezd project:
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=1

You can review all surname found in these lists here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmMG7AQQmZ-hdGxXLS1vZ1l4eGht
RHBuWERINGlxUHc#gid=0

or:

https://tinyurl.com/no5q5dc

After contributing, please forward your receipt to me, and I'll send you your
requested town(s).

A huge thank you to our group of dedicated volunteer translators who made this project possible: Igor Apelsinov, Mark Tynkov, Yuri Dorn, and Rebecca Hauer

We are in need of more volunteers to translate the 1818 supplementary revision
list >from Russian. Please contact me if you can volunteer.

Thank you,
Dena Whitman
New Jersey
Denawhit@icloud.com


Ellis Island. What's next? #belarus

yael polat
 

... You go to JewishGen and you find a wonderful community of people
ready to help, to give advices, to find information and to support!
Thank you so much to each and each of you.

Yael Polat
Israel
DININ, SUISSA, BENADI, WENBERG, PODOLSKY, LOPATNIK ETC.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Ellis Island. What's next? #belarus

yael polat
 

... You go to JewishGen and you find a wonderful community of people
ready to help, to give advices, to find information and to support!
Thank you so much to each and each of you.

Yael Polat
Israel
DININ, SUISSA, BENADI, WENBERG, PODOLSKY, LOPATNIK ETC.

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