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Re: Rav Moses S. SIVITZ Pittsburgh
#rabbinic
Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
Have you contacted American Jewish Archives or Shaare Torah Synagogue
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where Rabbi Sivitz officiated? Ida Dr. Joseph M. Schwarcz Dr. Ida Selavan Schwarcz
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From: Debbie Lifshitz [mailto:debilif@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 1:38 AM I am looking for a publishable quality photograph of this remarkable Rav.
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Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic RE: Rav Moses S. SIVITZ Pittsburgh
#rabbinic
Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
Have you contacted American Jewish Archives or Shaare Torah Synagogue
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where Rabbi Sivitz officiated? Ida Dr. Joseph M. Schwarcz Dr. Ida Selavan Schwarcz
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From: Debbie Lifshitz [mailto:debilif@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 1:38 AM I am looking for a publishable quality photograph of this remarkable Rav.
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Call for Stern Grant Submissions - Deadline May 15, 2014
#latvia
LAURENCE HARRIS
The 2014 IAJGS Stern Grant committee invites nominations for this
important grant that memorializes the late Rabbi Malcolm Stern and his efforts to increase the availability of resources for Jewish genealogical research. The intention of the Rabbi Malcolm Stern Grant is to encourage institutions to pursue projects, activities and acquisitions that provide new or enhanced resources to benefit Jewish genealogists. The grant is given to non-profit institutions, not to individuals. For 2014 there is possibility of two awards (including the John Stedman Memorial Grant) of up to $3,000 each. Nominations for the Stern Grant are usually made by IAJGS Member organizations -- not by individuals. We encourage individuals, however, to participate in the process by contacting their local or most relevant IAJGS Member organization to suggest worthy recipients for the grant. For a list of Member organizations of IAJGS, see http://www.iajgs.org/members/members.html . For more information about the grant (and past grantees), go to http://www.iajgs.org/awards/stern.html . Submissions by IAJGS Member organizations can be made online at http://stevemorse.org/awards/nominate.php . Instructions can be found on the site. Please note that a separate nomination for the John Stedman Memorial Grant is not required. The nomination should be made for the Stern Grant as the evaluation criteria and process for both grants are the same, and any nominations received for the Stern Grant will automatically also be considered for the John Stedman Memorial Grant. Questions? Contact Laurence Harris at laurence@lizlo.com . The deadline for nominations is midnight May 15, 2014. 2014 Stern Grant Committee Laurence Harris (Chairperson) laurence@lizlo.com Fred Blum FRED@brservices.com Rhoda Miller rhodamiller104@gmail.com
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Latvia SIG #Latvia Call for Stern Grant Submissions - Deadline May 15, 2014
#latvia
LAURENCE HARRIS
The 2014 IAJGS Stern Grant committee invites nominations for this
important grant that memorializes the late Rabbi Malcolm Stern and his efforts to increase the availability of resources for Jewish genealogical research. The intention of the Rabbi Malcolm Stern Grant is to encourage institutions to pursue projects, activities and acquisitions that provide new or enhanced resources to benefit Jewish genealogists. The grant is given to non-profit institutions, not to individuals. For 2014 there is possibility of two awards (including the John Stedman Memorial Grant) of up to $3,000 each. Nominations for the Stern Grant are usually made by IAJGS Member organizations -- not by individuals. We encourage individuals, however, to participate in the process by contacting their local or most relevant IAJGS Member organization to suggest worthy recipients for the grant. For a list of Member organizations of IAJGS, see http://www.iajgs.org/members/members.html . For more information about the grant (and past grantees), go to http://www.iajgs.org/awards/stern.html . Submissions by IAJGS Member organizations can be made online at http://stevemorse.org/awards/nominate.php . Instructions can be found on the site. Please note that a separate nomination for the John Stedman Memorial Grant is not required. The nomination should be made for the Stern Grant as the evaluation criteria and process for both grants are the same, and any nominations received for the Stern Grant will automatically also be considered for the John Stedman Memorial Grant. Questions? Contact Laurence Harris at laurence@lizlo.com . The deadline for nominations is midnight May 15, 2014. 2014 Stern Grant Committee Laurence Harris (Chairperson) laurence@lizlo.com Fred Blum FRED@brservices.com Rhoda Miller rhodamiller104@gmail.com
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Call for Stern Grant Submissions - Deadline May 15, 2014
#germany
LAURENCE HARRIS
The 2014 IAJGS Stern Grant committee invites nominations for this
important grant that memorializes the late Rabbi Malcolm Stern and his efforts to increase the availability of resources for Jewish genealogical research. The intention of the Rabbi Malcolm Stern Grant is to encourage institutions to pursue projects, activities and acquisitions that provide new or enhanced resources to benefit Jewish genealogists. The grant is given to non-profit institutions, not to individuals. For 2014 there is possibility of two awards (including the John Stedman Memorial Grant) of up to $3,000 each. Nominations for the Stern Grant are usually made by IAJGS Member organizations -- not by individuals. We encourage individuals, however, to participate in the process by contacting their local or most relevant IAJGS Member organization to suggest worthy recipients for the grant. For a list of Member organizations of IAJGS, see http://www.iajgs.org/members/members.html For more information about the grant (and past grantees), go to: http://www.iajgs.org/awards/stern.html Submissions by IAJGS Member organizations can be made online at: http://stevemorse.org/awards/nominate.php Instructions can be found on the site. Please note that a separate nomination for the John Stedman Memorial Grant is not required. The nomination should be made for the Stern Grant as the evaluation criteria and process for both grants are the same, and any nominations received for the Stern Grant will automatically also be considered for the John Stedman Memorial Grant. Questions? Contact Laurence Harris at laurence@lizlo.com . The deadline for nominations is midnight May 15, 2014. 2014 Stern Grant Committee, Laurence Harris (Chairperson) laurence@lizlo.com Fred Blum FRED@brservices.com, Rhoda Miller rhodamiller104@gmail.com
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German SIG #Germany Call for Stern Grant Submissions - Deadline May 15, 2014
#germany
LAURENCE HARRIS
The 2014 IAJGS Stern Grant committee invites nominations for this
important grant that memorializes the late Rabbi Malcolm Stern and his efforts to increase the availability of resources for Jewish genealogical research. The intention of the Rabbi Malcolm Stern Grant is to encourage institutions to pursue projects, activities and acquisitions that provide new or enhanced resources to benefit Jewish genealogists. The grant is given to non-profit institutions, not to individuals. For 2014 there is possibility of two awards (including the John Stedman Memorial Grant) of up to $3,000 each. Nominations for the Stern Grant are usually made by IAJGS Member organizations -- not by individuals. We encourage individuals, however, to participate in the process by contacting their local or most relevant IAJGS Member organization to suggest worthy recipients for the grant. For a list of Member organizations of IAJGS, see http://www.iajgs.org/members/members.html For more information about the grant (and past grantees), go to: http://www.iajgs.org/awards/stern.html Submissions by IAJGS Member organizations can be made online at: http://stevemorse.org/awards/nominate.php Instructions can be found on the site. Please note that a separate nomination for the John Stedman Memorial Grant is not required. The nomination should be made for the Stern Grant as the evaluation criteria and process for both grants are the same, and any nominations received for the Stern Grant will automatically also be considered for the John Stedman Memorial Grant. Questions? Contact Laurence Harris at laurence@lizlo.com . The deadline for nominations is midnight May 15, 2014. 2014 Stern Grant Committee, Laurence Harris (Chairperson) laurence@lizlo.com Fred Blum FRED@brservices.com, Rhoda Miller rhodamiller104@gmail.com
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Call for Stern Grant Submissions - Deadline May 15, 2014
#ukraine
LAURENCE HARRIS
The 2014 IAJGS Stern Grant committee invites nominations for this important grant that memorializes the late Rabbi Malcolm Stern and his efforts to increase the availability of resources for Jewish genealogical research.
The intention of the Rabbi Malcolm Stern Grant is to encourage institutions to pursue projects, activities and acquisitions that provide new or enhanced resources to benefit Jewish genealogists. The grant is given to non-profit institutions, not to individuals. For 2014 there is possibility of two awards (including the John Stedman Memorial Grant) of up to $3,000 each. Nominations for the Stern Grant are usually made by IAJGS Member organizations -- not by individuals. We encourage individuals, however, to participate in the process by contacting their local or most relevant IAJGS Member organization to suggest worthy recipients for the grant. For a list of Member organizations of IAJGS, see http://www.iajgs.org/members/members.html . For more information about the grant (and past grantees), go to http://www.iajgs.org/awards/stern.html . Submissions by IAJGS Member organizations can be made online at http://stevemorse.org/awards/nominate.php . Instructions can be found on the site. Please note that a separate nomination for the John Stedman Memorial Grant is not required. The nomination should be made for the Stern Grant as the evaluation criteria and process for both grants are the same, and any nominations received for the Stern Grant will automatically also be considered for the John Stedman Memorial Grant. Questions? Contact Laurence Harris at laurence@lizlo.com . The deadline for nominations is midnight May 15, 2014. 2014 Stern Grant Committee Laurence Harris (Chairperson) laurence@lizlo.com Fred Blum FRED@brservices.com Rhoda Miller rhodamiller104@gmail.com
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Call for Stern Grant Submissions - Deadline May 15, 2014
#ukraine
LAURENCE HARRIS
The 2014 IAJGS Stern Grant committee invites nominations for this important grant that memorializes the late Rabbi Malcolm Stern and his efforts to increase the availability of resources for Jewish genealogical research.
The intention of the Rabbi Malcolm Stern Grant is to encourage institutions to pursue projects, activities and acquisitions that provide new or enhanced resources to benefit Jewish genealogists. The grant is given to non-profit institutions, not to individuals. For 2014 there is possibility of two awards (including the John Stedman Memorial Grant) of up to $3,000 each. Nominations for the Stern Grant are usually made by IAJGS Member organizations -- not by individuals. We encourage individuals, however, to participate in the process by contacting their local or most relevant IAJGS Member organization to suggest worthy recipients for the grant. For a list of Member organizations of IAJGS, see http://www.iajgs.org/members/members.html . For more information about the grant (and past grantees), go to http://www.iajgs.org/awards/stern.html . Submissions by IAJGS Member organizations can be made online at http://stevemorse.org/awards/nominate.php . Instructions can be found on the site. Please note that a separate nomination for the John Stedman Memorial Grant is not required. The nomination should be made for the Stern Grant as the evaluation criteria and process for both grants are the same, and any nominations received for the Stern Grant will automatically also be considered for the John Stedman Memorial Grant. Questions? Contact Laurence Harris at laurence@lizlo.com . The deadline for nominations is midnight May 15, 2014. 2014 Stern Grant Committee Laurence Harris (Chairperson) laurence@lizlo.com Fred Blum FRED@brservices.com Rhoda Miller rhodamiller104@gmail.com
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Re: Kowordok, Poland?
#general
Pamela Weisberger
Lisa Grayson writes:
"Might you be able to help solve the mystery of Kowordok, Poland? Jennie Kulik, b. 1880, maiden name believed to be Maruches, has her place of birth clearly typed on her husband Jacob Kulik's 1934 US Naturalization as Kowordok, Poland. There are no matches on JGen's town search, and Google shows absolutely nothing, including variations replacing K with G and C, and W with V." Try "Horodok", which was in Poland prior to 1939, then in Russia, invaded by Nazis in 1941, today in Belarus. It is located north of Minsk in the triangle between Rakov, Radishkovitz and Moladechna. Kehillalink site is here: http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/gorodokbel/horodok.html If this turns out to be the town, there is a wonderful film about the history of the town made a few years ago: "Horodok: A Shtetl's Story 1920-1945," which tells the tale of vibrant life in an Eastern European Jewish village, before WWII, told by partisan-survivors, who moved to Israel after the war. The film covers the shtetl's community and religious life; the shtetl economy; Jewish and secular education; the flourishing Zionist youth movements and political parties; the background story of an early 1930's film of the shtetl; Russian and Nazi occupation; the creation of the Ghetto and Nazi slaughter; Horodok partisans and the end-of-the-war revenge. The Museum of Family HIstory has a link with more film info: http://www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/sr-19-horodok.htm Pamela Weisberger Santa Monica, CA pweisberger@gmail.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Kowordok, Poland?
#general
Pamela Weisberger
Lisa Grayson writes:
"Might you be able to help solve the mystery of Kowordok, Poland? Jennie Kulik, b. 1880, maiden name believed to be Maruches, has her place of birth clearly typed on her husband Jacob Kulik's 1934 US Naturalization as Kowordok, Poland. There are no matches on JGen's town search, and Google shows absolutely nothing, including variations replacing K with G and C, and W with V." Try "Horodok", which was in Poland prior to 1939, then in Russia, invaded by Nazis in 1941, today in Belarus. It is located north of Minsk in the triangle between Rakov, Radishkovitz and Moladechna. Kehillalink site is here: http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/gorodokbel/horodok.html If this turns out to be the town, there is a wonderful film about the history of the town made a few years ago: "Horodok: A Shtetl's Story 1920-1945," which tells the tale of vibrant life in an Eastern European Jewish village, before WWII, told by partisan-survivors, who moved to Israel after the war. The film covers the shtetl's community and religious life; the shtetl economy; Jewish and secular education; the flourishing Zionist youth movements and political parties; the background story of an early 1930's film of the shtetl; Russian and Nazi occupation; the creation of the Ghetto and Nazi slaughter; Horodok partisans and the end-of-the-war revenge. The Museum of Family HIstory has a link with more film info: http://www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/sr-19-horodok.htm Pamela Weisberger Santa Monica, CA pweisberger@gmail.com
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Smoley family name origin
#general
David W. Perle
Hi, all.
The last couple of nights, I've pulled up some cool stuff for a new (to me) family branch going a few generations back, the Morris (Moses)Smoley family of Manhattan. I'd previously been told that my great-great-grandmother Ida Gottlieb's maiden name was Smoley and I was told that the family were shoemakers, and now I've found the family's 1900 and 1910 census directories showing Morris as a shoemaker (they should be in the 1890 census out of Manhattan, but I can't find it on Ancestry for some reason), I found his 1896 petition to naturalize, and even "Moses Smole's" German manifest record and U.S. ship arrival listing. Even Googling for "Morris Smoley," a couple of quick, random mentions came up showing his shoe and leather-dealing business. I also found him listed on a burial site showing his and his wife's/my g-g-g-grandmother's final resting place in Queens. Cool stuff. His census records indicate that he was >from "Russia" (I have a feeling that he was really >from Poland, which at the time was under the Russian Empire; I think I saw some reference to Poland). I had previously understood that he was >from Budapest, because his daughter'(my great-great-grandmother's) adult census entries indicated that her father was >from there, but I'm guessing at this point that's wrong. Adding more possible confusion, I saw Morris's ethnicity on one of the records given as being >from Prussia. I Googled to check out the name origin of "Smoley," and I was surprised to see a whole lot of returns for the name being >from the British Isles! I then remembered something that my grandma told me probably more than 15 years ago about some branch of the family >from around there, "you've never seen so much red hair." I wish I'd asked her more about that, because that that's not a particularly Jewish area!) In my genealogical adventures since two summers ago, I had not yet come across what she was referring to, but...could this now be a clue? However, despite all of those Google returns showing Smoley as being Celtic, looking it up in Ancestry seems to show a lot of people not >from there but >from eastern Europe. Anyone know anything about that name? David Perle Washington, DC
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Smoley family name origin
#general
David W. Perle
Hi, all.
The last couple of nights, I've pulled up some cool stuff for a new (to me) family branch going a few generations back, the Morris (Moses)Smoley family of Manhattan. I'd previously been told that my great-great-grandmother Ida Gottlieb's maiden name was Smoley and I was told that the family were shoemakers, and now I've found the family's 1900 and 1910 census directories showing Morris as a shoemaker (they should be in the 1890 census out of Manhattan, but I can't find it on Ancestry for some reason), I found his 1896 petition to naturalize, and even "Moses Smole's" German manifest record and U.S. ship arrival listing. Even Googling for "Morris Smoley," a couple of quick, random mentions came up showing his shoe and leather-dealing business. I also found him listed on a burial site showing his and his wife's/my g-g-g-grandmother's final resting place in Queens. Cool stuff. His census records indicate that he was >from "Russia" (I have a feeling that he was really >from Poland, which at the time was under the Russian Empire; I think I saw some reference to Poland). I had previously understood that he was >from Budapest, because his daughter'(my great-great-grandmother's) adult census entries indicated that her father was >from there, but I'm guessing at this point that's wrong. Adding more possible confusion, I saw Morris's ethnicity on one of the records given as being >from Prussia. I Googled to check out the name origin of "Smoley," and I was surprised to see a whole lot of returns for the name being >from the British Isles! I then remembered something that my grandma told me probably more than 15 years ago about some branch of the family >from around there, "you've never seen so much red hair." I wish I'd asked her more about that, because that that's not a particularly Jewish area!) In my genealogical adventures since two summers ago, I had not yet come across what she was referring to, but...could this now be a clue? However, despite all of those Google returns showing Smoley as being Celtic, looking it up in Ancestry seems to show a lot of people not >from there but >from eastern Europe. Anyone know anything about that name? David Perle Washington, DC
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Looking for Shapiro family, ex New York
#general
P GOLOB <golob459@...>
Hello,
I am trying to find descendants of Ben and Sarah (nee Krameroff) Shapiro, who arrived in New York >from Kiev, Ukraine in 1914. They became naturalised US citizens in 1919 and had three sons, Alexander, Philip and David, all born between 1918 and 1924. The lived in Brooklyn for many years, and may have had a house in Florida. As far as I am aware, these five members of the family are all deceased. Either Philip or David, or both, married and had a family. I have seen a photo of Ben and Sarah with a young girl, though I have no idea who she is. Sarah was the sister of my grandmother, who emigrated >from Ukraine to London in 1911. My grandmother, Faiga Golob, and her husband, Morris visited the Shapiros in 1949, and Sarah and family came to London by ship several times. I would dearly like to trace any surviving Shapiro descendants; they may no longer live in New York. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Peter Golob Lincolnshire, UK golob459@btinternet.com Researching: GOLOB; FREEDMAN; SHAPIRO; BRATTER; CLUER; SHAFFER; BENDAS; KATANKA.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for Shapiro family, ex New York
#general
P GOLOB <golob459@...>
Hello,
I am trying to find descendants of Ben and Sarah (nee Krameroff) Shapiro, who arrived in New York >from Kiev, Ukraine in 1914. They became naturalised US citizens in 1919 and had three sons, Alexander, Philip and David, all born between 1918 and 1924. The lived in Brooklyn for many years, and may have had a house in Florida. As far as I am aware, these five members of the family are all deceased. Either Philip or David, or both, married and had a family. I have seen a photo of Ben and Sarah with a young girl, though I have no idea who she is. Sarah was the sister of my grandmother, who emigrated >from Ukraine to London in 1911. My grandmother, Faiga Golob, and her husband, Morris visited the Shapiros in 1949, and Sarah and family came to London by ship several times. I would dearly like to trace any surviving Shapiro descendants; they may no longer live in New York. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Peter Golob Lincolnshire, UK golob459@btinternet.com Researching: GOLOB; FREEDMAN; SHAPIRO; BRATTER; CLUER; SHAFFER; BENDAS; KATANKA.
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Requesting address lookup in Israel
#general
jel <jel@...>
Would like to hear >from a JewishGen member in Israel who can do a current telephone
directory lookup for me. The person I am seeking in Israel submitted a POT at Yad Vashem in 1999. I have no idea how old she was at that time, but I have her full address. There is a reasonable chance she is still alive, and I just want to know if she or anyone with the same surname is still at that address. No need to contact her. I intend to write. Please contact me privately. Thank you in advance, Judith Lipmanson Smyrna, Delaware, USA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Requesting address lookup in Israel
#general
jel <jel@...>
Would like to hear >from a JewishGen member in Israel who can do a current telephone
directory lookup for me. The person I am seeking in Israel submitted a POT at Yad Vashem in 1999. I have no idea how old she was at that time, but I have her full address. There is a reasonable chance she is still alive, and I just want to know if she or anyone with the same surname is still at that address. No need to contact her. I intend to write. Please contact me privately. Thank you in advance, Judith Lipmanson Smyrna, Delaware, USA
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Announcing a new Kehilalink: Kryzhopol (Kryzhopil'), Ukraine
#ukraine
Hello,
I am pleased to announce a new Kehilalinks site that is now live for the town of Kryzhopol', Ukraine. While Kryzhopol is the name most familiar to Jewish genealogists, the town's official name is now Kryzhopil', which is the Ukrainian name for the town since 1991. Kryzhopol / Kryzhopil' is located in Vinnitsia Oblast, often still referred to as Podolia region. Nearby shtetls with Jewish populations, who were known to travel and move to Kryzhopol, include Zhabokrich, Shpikov, and Kniaze (now known as Radyanske). Please check for new Kehilalink site at http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/kryzhopol Your feedback and content is welcome. Should you have genealogical or other connections to Kryzhopol, I would be very happy to hear >from you. I am looking for reminiscences, memoirs, stories, photos, maps, videos, and other kinds of family or town information that you may have. I also hope that you will share your suggestions with me to improve the website so that it will meet the needs of all researchers interested in Kryzhopol. In addition to the content that is currently on the site, I intend to add photographs of about a hundred cemetery tombstones that I photographed in June 2013, as well as some documents provided to me by a Ukrainian-Israeli historian. I am in the process of translating the gravestones >from Russian, but would be grateful for any help with translation of the Hebrew inscriptions. If you have Russian or Hebrew translation or transcription skills, I would love to hear >from you! I also intend to revisit Kryzhopol, and plan to photograph the remainder of the tombstones. If you have been to Kryzhopol yourself, and have your own photos either of the cemetery or other parts of the town, I would be thrilled if you would share them with me for the website. Thank you. Very best wishes, Marla Waltman Toronto, Canada waltman.marla@gmail.com Ukraine: BEGLER/BEIGLER; KRAFCIK/KRAFCHEK/KRAFT/KRAVCHEK; KUSHNER/KUSHNIR; MARANTZ/MORANTZ; SPEKTOR/SPECTOR; VELTMAN/WELTMAN/VALTMAN/WOLTMAN/VOLTMAN. Poland: BALTMAN/BELTMAN; BARAN/BARON; GRINBLAT/GRYNBLAT; HOFFMAN; KOCIMORSKI/KACZIMORSKI; LABER; LEWKOWICZ; MARKS; NUDELMAN/ ORGANEK/ORGANICK/ORGANKIEWICZ/ORGAN; SANKOWICZ; SZAPSIOWICZ; USZEROWICZ/ASH; WILLINSKY; ZILBERBERG/SILBERBERG.
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Announcing a new Kehilalink: Kryzhopol (Kryzhopil'), Ukraine
#ukraine
Hello,
I am pleased to announce a new Kehilalinks site that is now live for the town of Kryzhopol', Ukraine. While Kryzhopol is the name most familiar to Jewish genealogists, the town's official name is now Kryzhopil', which is the Ukrainian name for the town since 1991. Kryzhopol / Kryzhopil' is located in Vinnitsia Oblast, often still referred to as Podolia region. Nearby shtetls with Jewish populations, who were known to travel and move to Kryzhopol, include Zhabokrich, Shpikov, and Kniaze (now known as Radyanske). Please check for new Kehilalink site at http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/kryzhopol Your feedback and content is welcome. Should you have genealogical or other connections to Kryzhopol, I would be very happy to hear >from you. I am looking for reminiscences, memoirs, stories, photos, maps, videos, and other kinds of family or town information that you may have. I also hope that you will share your suggestions with me to improve the website so that it will meet the needs of all researchers interested in Kryzhopol. In addition to the content that is currently on the site, I intend to add photographs of about a hundred cemetery tombstones that I photographed in June 2013, as well as some documents provided to me by a Ukrainian-Israeli historian. I am in the process of translating the gravestones >from Russian, but would be grateful for any help with translation of the Hebrew inscriptions. If you have Russian or Hebrew translation or transcription skills, I would love to hear >from you! I also intend to revisit Kryzhopol, and plan to photograph the remainder of the tombstones. If you have been to Kryzhopol yourself, and have your own photos either of the cemetery or other parts of the town, I would be thrilled if you would share them with me for the website. Thank you. Very best wishes, Marla Waltman Toronto, Canada waltman.marla@gmail.com Ukraine: BEGLER/BEIGLER; KRAFCIK/KRAFCHEK/KRAFT/KRAVCHEK; KUSHNER/KUSHNIR; MARANTZ/MORANTZ; SPEKTOR/SPECTOR; VELTMAN/WELTMAN/VALTMAN/WOLTMAN/VOLTMAN. Poland: BALTMAN/BELTMAN; BARAN/BARON; GRINBLAT/GRYNBLAT; HOFFMAN; KOCIMORSKI/KACZIMORSKI; LABER; LEWKOWICZ; MARKS; NUDELMAN/ ORGANEK/ORGANICK/ORGANKIEWICZ/ORGAN; SANKOWICZ; SZAPSIOWICZ; USZEROWICZ/ASH; WILLINSKY; ZILBERBERG/SILBERBERG.
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Re: Town in Transylvania
#hungary
edelman@...
Hi,
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Someone >from Borsa could have identified themselves - not the same as what border officials need to get told - as Romanian as early as November-December 1918 based on cease-fire lines and national declarations, or later in June 1920 when the international Treaty of Trianon was signed, but most likely "Romanian" referred to and was based on Romanian documents which may have not been issued closer to or after July 1921, when the Treaty came into effect. The date of immigration of the individual in question may make this more clear, at least in relation to them. I already wrote privately in response to the message that what they considered themselves to be would be irrelevant, at least by the last date above.. and also I assume pre-Trianon documents may have been made invalid, even for people in the parts of Austria and Hungary which remained in those two countries (Austrian Empire and Hungarian Empire passports or proto-passports were always different, yes?). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Trianon Todd Edelman, Los Angeles
On 03/30/2014 08:44 AM, tom wrote:
historically, i believe transylvania was hungarian until the breakup
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Town in Transylvania
#hungary
edelman@...
Hi,
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Someone >from Borsa could have identified themselves - not the same as what border officials need to get told - as Romanian as early as November-December 1918 based on cease-fire lines and national declarations, or later in June 1920 when the international Treaty of Trianon was signed, but most likely "Romanian" referred to and was based on Romanian documents which may have not been issued closer to or after July 1921, when the Treaty came into effect. The date of immigration of the individual in question may make this more clear, at least in relation to them. I already wrote privately in response to the message that what they considered themselves to be would be irrelevant, at least by the last date above.. and also I assume pre-Trianon documents may have been made invalid, even for people in the parts of Austria and Hungary which remained in those two countries (Austrian Empire and Hungarian Empire passports or proto-passports were always different, yes?). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Trianon Todd Edelman, Los Angeles
On 03/30/2014 08:44 AM, tom wrote:
historically, i believe transylvania was hungarian until the breakup
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