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Horowitz chassidic family #general

Neil@...
 

Trying to establish the relationship between R. Alter Yechezkel
Eliyahu Horowitz of Tarnobrzeg, 189-1943, son of Rav Yehoshua Horowitz
and Rav Alter Yechezkel Horowitz, the Viener Dayan, 1930-1994, father
of Rav Yosef Horowitz who married Admur Munkacs, Moshe Leib Rabinowitz.

Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR: Private responses only, please


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Horowitz chassidic family #general

Neil@...
 

Trying to establish the relationship between R. Alter Yechezkel
Eliyahu Horowitz of Tarnobrzeg, 189-1943, son of Rav Yehoshua Horowitz
and Rav Alter Yechezkel Horowitz, the Viener Dayan, 1930-1994, father
of Rav Yosef Horowitz who married Admur Munkacs, Moshe Leib Rabinowitz.

Neil Rosenstein

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Rav Doron Beckerman #general

Neil@...
 

Trying to contact him in Israel via phone or email..

Neil Rosenstein

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rav Doron Beckerman #general

Neil@...
 

Trying to contact him in Israel via phone or email..

Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR: Private responses only, please


Do you recognize? #general

Jeff Miller
 

I've posted a vital record which is excerpted >from the passenger list for my
FRAIDER/FREIDER family >from Ukraine. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM33526
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

I'm interested particularly in confirmation of information I include in this
message, correction of any errors in what I've listed, and information about
towns and possibly related individuals, past and present.

I am particularly interested in anyone who might know the family which I
have found originally came >from the town Kuzmin outside of Starokostyantniv;
related families came >from nearby Zhvanets; other possible locations for the
family include Kishinev and Kamenets-Podolskiy.

Although the index for two of the listings shows Trajder, the name is Frajder,
Efraim, with entries for age 19, Male, Single, Ciggarette(maker)(kiosk) ?????hard
to read??.;Yes, Yes, Russia, Hebrew, Russia, Starokow...?? (perhaps short for
Starokostyantniv??)

The next person of interest is Frajder, Dine Afe 22, female, single,
Milliner, No, Yes, Russia, Hebrew, Dukajewitz ???

Related families came >from Europe to the United States, initially to the New
York/New Jersey area in the 1900 - 1921 timeframe.

My grandmother Jennie was related to FRAIDERs with given names of Pincus,
Morris, Abraham, Sam, Jacob, Jankel (Yankel), etc.


Thank you very much.

Jeff Miller
Maryland/D.C. area
singingtm@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Do you recognize? #general

Jeff Miller
 

I've posted a vital record which is excerpted >from the passenger list for my
FRAIDER/FREIDER family >from Ukraine. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM33526
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

I'm interested particularly in confirmation of information I include in this
message, correction of any errors in what I've listed, and information about
towns and possibly related individuals, past and present.

I am particularly interested in anyone who might know the family which I
have found originally came >from the town Kuzmin outside of Starokostyantniv;
related families came >from nearby Zhvanets; other possible locations for the
family include Kishinev and Kamenets-Podolskiy.

Although the index for two of the listings shows Trajder, the name is Frajder,
Efraim, with entries for age 19, Male, Single, Ciggarette(maker)(kiosk) ?????hard
to read??.;Yes, Yes, Russia, Hebrew, Russia, Starokow...?? (perhaps short for
Starokostyantniv??)

The next person of interest is Frajder, Dine Afe 22, female, single,
Milliner, No, Yes, Russia, Hebrew, Dukajewitz ???

Related families came >from Europe to the United States, initially to the New
York/New Jersey area in the 1900 - 1921 timeframe.

My grandmother Jennie was related to FRAIDERs with given names of Pincus,
Morris, Abraham, Sam, Jacob, Jankel (Yankel), etc.


Thank you very much.

Jeff Miller
Maryland/D.C. area
singingtm@...


ViewMate translation request - Polish #general

loren greenberg
 

Hello!

I have posted 2 scans in Polish for which I would appreciate a translation. These
scans contain handwritten notes on the back of a family photo. The 2 posts are the
same, one being an enhanced version.

It is on ViewMate at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM33528

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM33529

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you kindly,
Loren Greenberg Schonbrun
Los Angeles, California

ABELOW, GOLUBOFSKY-Vasilishki,Belarus
ABELOW-Meretz, Lithuania
VOLPIANSKY- Kaunas, Lithuania
MELAMED, MILLER, SHAFIR,SCHAEFFER - StaroKonstantinov, Ukraine
MILLER, MILNER - Smiltene, Latvia
SCHONBRUN - Sombor, Serbia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request - Polish #general

loren greenberg
 

Hello!

I have posted 2 scans in Polish for which I would appreciate a translation. These
scans contain handwritten notes on the back of a family photo. The 2 posts are the
same, one being an enhanced version.

It is on ViewMate at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM33528

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM33529

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you kindly,
Loren Greenberg Schonbrun
Los Angeles, California

ABELOW, GOLUBOFSKY-Vasilishki,Belarus
ABELOW-Meretz, Lithuania
VOLPIANSKY- Kaunas, Lithuania
MELAMED, MILLER, SHAFIR,SCHAEFFER - StaroKonstantinov, Ukraine
MILLER, MILNER - Smiltene, Latvia
SCHONBRUN - Sombor, Serbia


ViewMate Translation Request - Hebrew Tombstone #general

Fran Cohen <fransc1969@...>
 

Hi Genners.

I am hoping that there is someone who can help me on this. I have posted a
picture of a tombstone in which I need an exact translation (word for word
if possible) on. This is on ViewMate at the following addresses.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM33462

Thank you,
Fran Boss Cohen
Researching: Boss, Buze, Buss, Buzas


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Translation Request - Hebrew Tombstone #general

Fran Cohen <fransc1969@...>
 

Hi Genners.

I am hoping that there is someone who can help me on this. I have posted a
picture of a tombstone in which I need an exact translation (word for word
if possible) on. This is on ViewMate at the following addresses.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM33462

Thank you,
Fran Boss Cohen
Researching: Boss, Buze, Buss, Buzas


Searching for a connection between Datz and Datz families #general

Lynne Schneider
 

Greetings,
My probable cousin and I have been trying to connect our DATZ families for some
time now. My line descends >from a Morris DATZ (who probably departed Liverpool for
the Port of Philadelphia as Moishe DACZ on the Rhynland on 17 Sept 1902). Morris'
parents were Nachman DATZ and Sluva Derewitz, neither of whom emigrated, to my
knowledge. Morris' ship manifest says he last resided in Podolia. I know that he
worked at a mattress factory in Connecticut with a cousin who I believe is Nathan
DATZ. And, then together they opened their own mattress factory in Brooklyn,
sometime between 1902 and 1903. Morris married Eva Sapir(er)stein on 27 October
1903 and they had four children: Goldie (b 1904, d 1915), Isidor (Irving)(b 1906,
d 1999, Bluma (Bertha)(b 1908, d 1983 and my father, Nathaniel David (known to the
family as David)(b 1916, d 2012).

Nathan DATZ married Anna and they had Charles, Bessie, Minnie, Frances, Bertha,
Mary and Rebecca. On the 1910 US Federal Census, the Morris DATZ family and the
Nathan DATZ family lived in next to one another on Myrtle Avenue in Brooklyn and
stated that they were in the mattress manufacturing business.

The other line we are researching is descended >from Isaac DATZ, b 1867 in Padola,
Russia, d 1919 in Russia. He married Rose Dorfman, b 15 Dec 1866 in Padola, d in
New York. Isaac and Rose had six children: Schmule (who elected to stay in Russia
with his growing family), Harry, Leib, Bluma, Sonia, and Solomon. Leib DATZ was
born about 1887 in Russia and died about 1919 in Kopaigorod, Russia. Leib DATZ
married Maysa (Martha) LVOVICH, daughter of Yaacov LVOVICH and an unknown mother.
Maysa was born on 1 July, 1889 in Romania and died 30 April, 1974 in Princeton New
Jersey. Maysa emigrated in 1920 as Mania DUTZI, and became naturalized on 8 June,
1937. Leib DATZ and Maysa LVOVICH had Aaron DATZ who was born 16 Feb 1913 in
Ukraine, Russia and died 16 June 1993 in Laguna Hills, California. Aaron DATZ
married Evelyn DALY on 9 Dec 1934 in Brooklyn, NY, however, her birth certificate
states her date of birth as May, 1914 and her name as Ida DALEY (This was in
error by those preparing her birth certificate). She died 5 Oct 1999 in California.
Aaron DATZ and Evelyn DALY had two children: Dorothy Belle DATZ, b 24 Feb 1942 in
Brooklyn, NY, d 9 Jan 1992 in Berkeley, CA; and Joseph Lauren DATZ, b 24 Oct 1944
in Brooklyn, NY. Joseph was married to Rebecca WRIGHT and is currently married to
Janis Lee FRIEDENBRG. Janis and I believe that her husband Joe DATZ and my father,
Nathaniel David DATZ, are cousins. Both Joe and David stated as much but we have
been unable to determine the exact relationship. I believe that they might be
second cousins, given the age difference.

Kopaigorod is mentioned as the birth and/or death place for many of the DATZes in
the Isaac DATZ line but I have as yet not found it mentioned in the Morris DATZ or
Nathan DATZ line. It seems that there are a great many shared names between the
DATZ families which makes me believe that they just have to be really related (of
course, it could just mean that these names were the most commonly used names at
their particular place and time).

Janis and I would greatly appreciate any insight into this jumbled family and
perhaps some kind genner can figure out the relationships.

Although I have provided here only the information I believe to be pertinent, I
will provide any additional information anyone thinks would be useful in solving
this problem.

Thank you so much. Please respond privately to:
schneider_lynne@...
jjdatz@...

Lynne Schneider in Los Angeles, CA
Researching DATZ, SAPIR(ER)STEIN, Walzer


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for a connection between Datz and Datz families #general

Lynne Schneider
 

Greetings,
My probable cousin and I have been trying to connect our DATZ families for some
time now. My line descends >from a Morris DATZ (who probably departed Liverpool for
the Port of Philadelphia as Moishe DACZ on the Rhynland on 17 Sept 1902). Morris'
parents were Nachman DATZ and Sluva Derewitz, neither of whom emigrated, to my
knowledge. Morris' ship manifest says he last resided in Podolia. I know that he
worked at a mattress factory in Connecticut with a cousin who I believe is Nathan
DATZ. And, then together they opened their own mattress factory in Brooklyn,
sometime between 1902 and 1903. Morris married Eva Sapir(er)stein on 27 October
1903 and they had four children: Goldie (b 1904, d 1915), Isidor (Irving)(b 1906,
d 1999, Bluma (Bertha)(b 1908, d 1983 and my father, Nathaniel David (known to the
family as David)(b 1916, d 2012).

Nathan DATZ married Anna and they had Charles, Bessie, Minnie, Frances, Bertha,
Mary and Rebecca. On the 1910 US Federal Census, the Morris DATZ family and the
Nathan DATZ family lived in next to one another on Myrtle Avenue in Brooklyn and
stated that they were in the mattress manufacturing business.

The other line we are researching is descended >from Isaac DATZ, b 1867 in Padola,
Russia, d 1919 in Russia. He married Rose Dorfman, b 15 Dec 1866 in Padola, d in
New York. Isaac and Rose had six children: Schmule (who elected to stay in Russia
with his growing family), Harry, Leib, Bluma, Sonia, and Solomon. Leib DATZ was
born about 1887 in Russia and died about 1919 in Kopaigorod, Russia. Leib DATZ
married Maysa (Martha) LVOVICH, daughter of Yaacov LVOVICH and an unknown mother.
Maysa was born on 1 July, 1889 in Romania and died 30 April, 1974 in Princeton New
Jersey. Maysa emigrated in 1920 as Mania DUTZI, and became naturalized on 8 June,
1937. Leib DATZ and Maysa LVOVICH had Aaron DATZ who was born 16 Feb 1913 in
Ukraine, Russia and died 16 June 1993 in Laguna Hills, California. Aaron DATZ
married Evelyn DALY on 9 Dec 1934 in Brooklyn, NY, however, her birth certificate
states her date of birth as May, 1914 and her name as Ida DALEY (This was in
error by those preparing her birth certificate). She died 5 Oct 1999 in California.
Aaron DATZ and Evelyn DALY had two children: Dorothy Belle DATZ, b 24 Feb 1942 in
Brooklyn, NY, d 9 Jan 1992 in Berkeley, CA; and Joseph Lauren DATZ, b 24 Oct 1944
in Brooklyn, NY. Joseph was married to Rebecca WRIGHT and is currently married to
Janis Lee FRIEDENBRG. Janis and I believe that her husband Joe DATZ and my father,
Nathaniel David DATZ, are cousins. Both Joe and David stated as much but we have
been unable to determine the exact relationship. I believe that they might be
second cousins, given the age difference.

Kopaigorod is mentioned as the birth and/or death place for many of the DATZes in
the Isaac DATZ line but I have as yet not found it mentioned in the Morris DATZ or
Nathan DATZ line. It seems that there are a great many shared names between the
DATZ families which makes me believe that they just have to be really related (of
course, it could just mean that these names were the most commonly used names at
their particular place and time).

Janis and I would greatly appreciate any insight into this jumbled family and
perhaps some kind genner can figure out the relationships.

Although I have provided here only the information I believe to be pertinent, I
will provide any additional information anyone thinks would be useful in solving
this problem.

Thank you so much. Please respond privately to:
schneider_lynne@...
jjdatz@...

Lynne Schneider in Los Angeles, CA
Researching DATZ, SAPIR(ER)STEIN, Walzer


MK Yakov/Jacob Landau #general

Neil@...
 

Member of First Keneset (Welfare Minister) Landau was born in 1900.
He had two daughters - Levia and Efra whose families I am trying to trace.

His father was Pinchas Landau of Zawiercie and I am trying to find out
if there were siblings to these men.

Neil Rosenstein


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen MK Yakov/Jacob Landau #general

Neil@...
 

Member of First Keneset (Welfare Minister) Landau was born in 1900.
He had two daughters - Levia and Efra whose families I am trying to trace.

His father was Pinchas Landau of Zawiercie and I am trying to find out
if there were siblings to these men.

Neil Rosenstein


Morris Shapiro #general

Gayle Schlissel Riley
 

I have tried and tried..I can not find my great grandfather arrival records. He went
to Sioux City, Iowa in 1904. He was born in 1873 Russia (Timikovichi, Uszlyany, then
went to Lubny). Can anyone help? Privately.
Also his brothers never left Lubny, Ukraine Yitchuk and Yomtov Guttman, one had two
wives both born in the 1870's. Advise please..Gayle Schlissel Riley


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Morris Shapiro #general

Gayle Schlissel Riley
 

I have tried and tried..I can not find my great grandfather arrival records. He went
to Sioux City, Iowa in 1904. He was born in 1873 Russia (Timikovichi, Uszlyany, then
went to Lubny). Can anyone help? Privately.
Also his brothers never left Lubny, Ukraine Yitchuk and Yomtov Guttman, one had two
wives both born in the 1870's. Advise please..Gayle Schlissel Riley


Re: Update on my landmanschaft question #general

Roxanne Richardson
 

One further update, because so many of you have been extremely helpful and generous
with your suggestions.

I managed to track down Hyman MEYERS/MAJORZIK and Sadie (Shayna Chaya) YEGUTKINs
marriage record. The birth place listed on Sadies manifest of Wilka was not the
Vilejka district, after all, but Vetka, at town 12 miles outside of Gomel. (The
clerk failed to cross the t on the manifest).

Khaim MAYORCHIK married Khayka EGUDKIN (>from Vetka) in Gomel on 21 Jul 1895. The
EGUDKIN spelling yielded even more hits in the Belarus database, so I now have
Hymans fathers given name (Leyb), as well as the names of two EGUDKIN men who were
probably Sadies brothers.

So it appears that the MEYERs burial in the Dolhinow section was, in fact, in no
way connected to where either one of them were originally from. You were all
right!

Roxanne Richardson
Minneapolis, MN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Update on my landmanschaft question #general

Roxanne Richardson
 

One further update, because so many of you have been extremely helpful and generous
with your suggestions.

I managed to track down Hyman MEYERS/MAJORZIK and Sadie (Shayna Chaya) YEGUTKINs
marriage record. The birth place listed on Sadies manifest of Wilka was not the
Vilejka district, after all, but Vetka, at town 12 miles outside of Gomel. (The
clerk failed to cross the t on the manifest).

Khaim MAYORCHIK married Khayka EGUDKIN (>from Vetka) in Gomel on 21 Jul 1895. The
EGUDKIN spelling yielded even more hits in the Belarus database, so I now have
Hymans fathers given name (Leyb), as well as the names of two EGUDKIN men who were
probably Sadies brothers.

So it appears that the MEYERs burial in the Dolhinow section was, in fact, in no
way connected to where either one of them were originally from. You were all
right!

Roxanne Richardson
Minneapolis, MN


Israel's Fallen soldiers and victims of terror #general

Apollo Israel <apollo@...>
 

With Israel's Remembrance Day for fallen soldiers and victims of terror beginning
tonight (Sunday night), it's perhaps timely to let JewishGenners know that there is
a very comprehensive memorial website created by Israel's Defense Ministry that
lists all the 23,169 victims since 1873, including comprehensive biographies of
each one that may be useful to family researchers, and photos of many.
Unfortunately, the database is only in Hebrew, but Google Translate can help. The
link is:

http://www.izkor.gov.il/Default.aspx

In memory of the fallen, and hoping that the list will grow no longer next year.

Miriam Bulwar David-Hay,
Raanana, Israel.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Israel's Fallen soldiers and victims of terror #general

Apollo Israel <apollo@...>
 

With Israel's Remembrance Day for fallen soldiers and victims of terror beginning
tonight (Sunday night), it's perhaps timely to let JewishGenners know that there is
a very comprehensive memorial website created by Israel's Defense Ministry that
lists all the 23,169 victims since 1873, including comprehensive biographies of
each one that may be useful to family researchers, and photos of many.
Unfortunately, the database is only in Hebrew, but Google Translate can help. The
link is:

http://www.izkor.gov.il/Default.aspx

In memory of the fallen, and hoping that the list will grow no longer next year.

Miriam Bulwar David-Hay,
Raanana, Israel.

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