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Re: Polish names - Juljan/Julian #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Amit Naor wrote:

I have information about a relative (actually my grandfather's uncle)
whose name was Juljan/Julian. I couldn't find any record about him up
to now. This doesn't seem like a Jewish name. Can anyone tell if there
was a Jewish name popularly used with that name?
Julian, Polish pron.[yoo lian] is not a Jewish name. Julian and the
related name Julius have been adopted by Jews >from Latin to allow
the entry into non-Jewish society or workplace.

There is no relation to any known Yiddish name, people just adopted
Gentile name because they like it, or perhaps name started on the
same letter as their Yiddish name (such as Juda). BTW, a diminutive
form of Polish Julian is Julek [yoo leck]

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB
Offering ABRAHAMS Birth Record from England - not mine #general

Elynn Boss
 

I have the birth record for Myer ABRAHAMS, born 21 Feb 1881 in
Whitechapel, Middlesex Co, England. He was the son of Israel
Abrahams and Leah Harris. This is not my ancestor.

I will gladly send a copy of this record to anyone that would
like it. Please contact me off list.

Elynn Boss
Texas, USA
bossgen_1@att.net

Searching: Abrahams, Dreishpoon, Danovitch/Daynes, Gichtin/Gertin
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Polish names - Juljan/Julian #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Amit Naor wrote:

I have information about a relative (actually my grandfather's uncle)
whose name was Juljan/Julian. I couldn't find any record about him up
to now. This doesn't seem like a Jewish name. Can anyone tell if there
was a Jewish name popularly used with that name?
Julian, Polish pron.[yoo lian] is not a Jewish name. Julian and the
related name Julius have been adopted by Jews >from Latin to allow
the entry into non-Jewish society or workplace.

There is no relation to any known Yiddish name, people just adopted
Gentile name because they like it, or perhaps name started on the
same letter as their Yiddish name (such as Juda). BTW, a diminutive
form of Polish Julian is Julek [yoo leck]

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Offering ABRAHAMS Birth Record from England - not mine #general

Elynn Boss
 

I have the birth record for Myer ABRAHAMS, born 21 Feb 1881 in
Whitechapel, Middlesex Co, England. He was the son of Israel
Abrahams and Leah Harris. This is not my ancestor.

I will gladly send a copy of this record to anyone that would
like it. Please contact me off list.

Elynn Boss
Texas, USA
bossgen_1@att.net

Searching: Abrahams, Dreishpoon, Danovitch/Daynes, Gichtin/Gertin
Re: Polish names - Juljan/Julian #general

Jules Levin
 

On 7/29/2014 5:34 AM, Amit Naor amitna87@gmail.com wrote:

I have information about a relative (actually my grandfather's uncle)
whose name was Juljan/Julian. I couldn't find any record about him up
to now. This doesn't seem like a Jewish name. Can anyone tell if there
was a Jewish name popularly used with that name?
The secularization of European Jews did not start in America. By the
end of the 19th Century many middle and upper class Jews were adopting
secular names, and Julian/Julius were often used for Yehudah. Moshe
became Mauritz, which became Morris in America, etc.
Jules (Yehudah) Levin
Los Angeles
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Polish names - Juljan/Julian #general

Jules Levin
 

On 7/29/2014 5:34 AM, Amit Naor amitna87@gmail.com wrote:

I have information about a relative (actually my grandfather's uncle)
whose name was Juljan/Julian. I couldn't find any record about him up
to now. This doesn't seem like a Jewish name. Can anyone tell if there
was a Jewish name popularly used with that name?
The secularization of European Jews did not start in America. By the
end of the 19th Century many middle and upper class Jews were adopting
secular names, and Julian/Julius were often used for Yehudah. Moshe
became Mauritz, which became Morris in America, etc.
Jules (Yehudah) Levin
Los Angeles
Synagogue Memorial Plaques #general

WALTER SPECTOR
 

Dear Genners,

I have acquired 9 bronze Synagogue Memorial Plaques in a lot
of collectibles at an auction. They are 4x6 inches.

The plaques weight about one pound and it will coast about
$7.50 to mail them.

According to the 1940 census most of the people lived in
Queens or Brooklyn New York.

I do not know the name of the synagogue or its location. I
am willing to return them to family members if you contact me
privately.

Bronze Plaques

Presented by In Memory of

David Wagmeister Jacob J Wagmeister
Mrs. Samuel Altholtz Samuel Altholtz
David Wagmeister Esther D. Wagmeister
Frank Brown Samuel Klein
Brown Family Samuel Klein
Jacob Klein Samuel Klein
Sgt Chas Smith Post
#116 JWV Morris Berkal
Sam J Perry Robert Perry
B.S. Michaelson Sally E. Michaelson

Regards,

Walter Spector

Searching:
SPECTOR- Zaslov (Izyaslov) Volhynia Gub. Ukraine-Woodbine NJ-Phila. PA;
EBY (AB) Rushany, Grodno Gub. Belarus-Woodbine NJ- Phila.PA;
BECKER- Klevan, Rovno Phila. PA Brooklyn NY: GREENSTEIN-Boston MA:
SELTZER (ZELTZER)Rovno, Klevan, Alexandria; Poland-Brooklyn NY
LONDE, LANDAU,LONDON, LANDER, Proskrov- Phila. PA
PITKOWSKI Rushany, Grodno Gub. STEINBERG - Phila. ROTHSTEIN (Rotstein)
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Synagogue Memorial Plaques #general

WALTER SPECTOR
 

Dear Genners,

I have acquired 9 bronze Synagogue Memorial Plaques in a lot
of collectibles at an auction. They are 4x6 inches.

The plaques weight about one pound and it will coast about
$7.50 to mail them.

According to the 1940 census most of the people lived in
Queens or Brooklyn New York.

I do not know the name of the synagogue or its location. I
am willing to return them to family members if you contact me
privately.

Bronze Plaques

Presented by In Memory of

David Wagmeister Jacob J Wagmeister
Mrs. Samuel Altholtz Samuel Altholtz
David Wagmeister Esther D. Wagmeister
Frank Brown Samuel Klein
Brown Family Samuel Klein
Jacob Klein Samuel Klein
Sgt Chas Smith Post
#116 JWV Morris Berkal
Sam J Perry Robert Perry
B.S. Michaelson Sally E. Michaelson

Regards,

Walter Spector

Searching:
SPECTOR- Zaslov (Izyaslov) Volhynia Gub. Ukraine-Woodbine NJ-Phila. PA;
EBY (AB) Rushany, Grodno Gub. Belarus-Woodbine NJ- Phila.PA;
BECKER- Klevan, Rovno Phila. PA Brooklyn NY: GREENSTEIN-Boston MA:
SELTZER (ZELTZER)Rovno, Klevan, Alexandria; Poland-Brooklyn NY
LONDE, LANDAU,LONDON, LANDER, Proskrov- Phila. PA
PITKOWSKI Rushany, Grodno Gub. STEINBERG - Phila. ROTHSTEIN (Rotstein)
ViewMate translation request - German (maybe some Polish too) #general

Dave Strausfeld <davestra@...>
 

Hello fellow travelers,

I've posted a vital record for which I would be grateful for a
translation. It is on ViewMate at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34920

Thank you very much.

D Strausfeld
Durham, North Carolina

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request - German (maybe some Polish too) #general

Dave Strausfeld <davestra@...>
 

Hello fellow travelers,

I've posted a vital record for which I would be grateful for a
translation. It is on ViewMate at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM34920

Thank you very much.

D Strausfeld
Durham, North Carolina

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.
Polish names - Juljan/Julian #general

Amit N
 

Hi,

I have information about a relative (actually my grandfather's uncle)
whose name was Juljan/Julian. I couldn't find any record about him up
to now. This doesn't seem like a Jewish name. Can anyone tell if there
was a Jewish name popularly used with that name?
Also, a soundex search in JRI-Poland gives me all kinds of results
connected to the name Szlama or versions of it. Is there any
connection or is it just a glitch in the algorithm?

Thank you
Amit Naor
Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: The InfoFile on Soundex encoding at
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/soundex.html
will explain those matches between Julian and Szlama. Scroll down to
the section on Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex Coding.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Polish names - Juljan/Julian #general

Amit N
 

Hi,

I have information about a relative (actually my grandfather's uncle)
whose name was Juljan/Julian. I couldn't find any record about him up
to now. This doesn't seem like a Jewish name. Can anyone tell if there
was a Jewish name popularly used with that name?
Also, a soundex search in JRI-Poland gives me all kinds of results
connected to the name Szlama or versions of it. Is there any
connection or is it just a glitch in the algorithm?

Thank you
Amit Naor
Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: The InfoFile on Soundex encoding at
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/soundex.html
will explain those matches between Julian and Szlama. Scroll down to
the section on Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex Coding.
Israeli Artist BARLI-JOEL #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Looking for the family of Esther BARLI (originally Berlin) -JOEL, a
noted Israeli artist, 1895-1972

--
Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Israeli Artist BARLI-JOEL #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Looking for the family of Esther BARLI (originally Berlin) -JOEL, a
noted Israeli artist, 1895-1972

--
Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.
GURARY/GURARIE #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Looking to make contact with the family of
Jules (Isser Yehuda) GURARY, born in Kremenchug in 1891 and died in
New York City in 1964, married in Budapest in 1909 to Ruth (Rachel),
daughter of R. Isaac Leib Schreiber. His children were 1. Lilly, born
on August 21, 1912 and died in Woodmere on December 3, 1993, married
Eli Gut, lived in Woodmere, Long Island, NY and 2. Paul (Schnieur
Zalman Yitzchak) Gurary, born in Vienna in 1919 and died in ----,
lived in Mnahattan, NY.

--
Neil RosensteinBOVARNICK
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic GURARY/GURARIE #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Looking to make contact with the family of
Jules (Isser Yehuda) GURARY, born in Kremenchug in 1891 and died in
New York City in 1964, married in Budapest in 1909 to Ruth (Rachel),
daughter of R. Isaac Leib Schreiber. His children were 1. Lilly, born
on August 21, 1912 and died in Woodmere on December 3, 1993, married
Eli Gut, lived in Woodmere, Long Island, NY and 2. Paul (Schnieur
Zalman Yitzchak) Gurary, born in Vienna in 1919 and died in ----,
lived in Mnahattan, NY.

--
Neil RosensteinBOVARNICK
BOVARNICK in Boston in 1940s #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

I have very little information to track the family of Max BOVARNICK,
born about 1906 and married Lillian. They lived in Boston in 1940s.

--
Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic BOVARNICK in Boston in 1940s #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

I have very little information to track the family of Max BOVARNICK,
born about 1906 and married Lillian. They lived in Boston in 1940s.

--
Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.
Seeking a rabbinical family in Lublin, likely named FRENKIEL #rabbinic

Apollo Israel <apollo@...>
 

My late grandmother Miriam nee FRENKIEL (who died before I was born and
after whom I was named) seems to have had quite a life. Born in 1910 in the
town of Belz (then in Poland, now in Ukraine) to an ultra-religious
rabbinical family, she apparently ran away >from home after her father died
when she was around 15. She ended up in Krakow, where she met my grandfather
and had my father shortly before WWII, and then fled with them to Russia
during the war.

All we ever knew about my grandmother's family was that she either cut them
off or was cut off by them, and for the rest of her life she refused to
speak about them. We knew that her parents were called Todres FRENKIEL and
Rachela nee FERLIPTER, but we did not know the names of her siblings or even
how many there were, let alone anything about her wider family.

I have spent years trying to find some information about my grandmother's
family (an extremely difficult task with vital records for Belz apparently
non-existent and with FRENKIEL and its variations being such a common name),
and hit nothing but brick walls. But recently I had the great good fortune
to discover, through Israeli aliyah records, that a sister of my
grandmother's moved here just before WWII. I managed to track down the
sister's family in Israel, and the discovery has been mutually delightful.
The sister, who was two years younger than my grandmother, is of course no
longer alive, and unfortunately, her family doesn't know anything much about
her family either.

They have, however, told me one snippet that may be the breakthrough I need:
Apparently the sisters' father, Todres FRENKIEL, was the son of a prominent
Chassidic rabbi who lived not in Belz but in Lublin. He was a rosh yeshiva
and possibly even an Admor.

The family also told me that the two sisters had five older brothers, one of
whom apparently studied medicine. The family does not know anything about
the brothers or any families they may have had.

And this is where I'm reaching out to the JewishGen and JRI-Poland
communities: I have searched JRI-Poland, the Rabbinic Genealogy SIG, the
Belz and Lublin yizkor book necrologies in JewishGen, and books and websites
devoted to rabbinical genealogies for a 19th to early 20th century rabbi in
Lublin called FRENKIEL or similar, but I have not been able to find
anything. Even when I do find a site with rabbinical genealogies, many give
rabbis' first names but not surnames, or refer to the rabbis by their town
only, and I can't connect the dots. I would welcome any information,
suggestions, or links that might help point me in the right direction! I
would also be thrilled to learn anything at all about my grandmother's
brothers and to discover any living descendants.

Hoping to hear >from someone,
Thank you in advance,
Miriam Bulwar David-Hay,
Raanana, Israel
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Seeking a rabbinical family in Lublin, likely named FRENKIEL #rabbinic

Apollo Israel <apollo@...>
 

My late grandmother Miriam nee FRENKIEL (who died before I was born and
after whom I was named) seems to have had quite a life. Born in 1910 in the
town of Belz (then in Poland, now in Ukraine) to an ultra-religious
rabbinical family, she apparently ran away >from home after her father died
when she was around 15. She ended up in Krakow, where she met my grandfather
and had my father shortly before WWII, and then fled with them to Russia
during the war.

All we ever knew about my grandmother's family was that she either cut them
off or was cut off by them, and for the rest of her life she refused to
speak about them. We knew that her parents were called Todres FRENKIEL and
Rachela nee FERLIPTER, but we did not know the names of her siblings or even
how many there were, let alone anything about her wider family.

I have spent years trying to find some information about my grandmother's
family (an extremely difficult task with vital records for Belz apparently
non-existent and with FRENKIEL and its variations being such a common name),
and hit nothing but brick walls. But recently I had the great good fortune
to discover, through Israeli aliyah records, that a sister of my
grandmother's moved here just before WWII. I managed to track down the
sister's family in Israel, and the discovery has been mutually delightful.
The sister, who was two years younger than my grandmother, is of course no
longer alive, and unfortunately, her family doesn't know anything much about
her family either.

They have, however, told me one snippet that may be the breakthrough I need:
Apparently the sisters' father, Todres FRENKIEL, was the son of a prominent
Chassidic rabbi who lived not in Belz but in Lublin. He was a rosh yeshiva
and possibly even an Admor.

The family also told me that the two sisters had five older brothers, one of
whom apparently studied medicine. The family does not know anything about
the brothers or any families they may have had.

And this is where I'm reaching out to the JewishGen and JRI-Poland
communities: I have searched JRI-Poland, the Rabbinic Genealogy SIG, the
Belz and Lublin yizkor book necrologies in JewishGen, and books and websites
devoted to rabbinical genealogies for a 19th to early 20th century rabbi in
Lublin called FRENKIEL or similar, but I have not been able to find
anything. Even when I do find a site with rabbinical genealogies, many give
rabbis' first names but not surnames, or refer to the rabbis by their town
only, and I can't connect the dots. I would welcome any information,
suggestions, or links that might help point me in the right direction! I
would also be thrilled to learn anything at all about my grandmother's
brothers and to discover any living descendants.

Hoping to hear >from someone,
Thank you in advance,
Miriam Bulwar David-Hay,
Raanana, Israel
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