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Distantcousin website #usa

Shelly Crane
 

Hello,
I happened to come across a web site called, "Distantcousin," which is an
archive of "genealogical data and document images."

It appears to have an incredible amount of online information and
in particular nice resources that would be of interest to those genealogists
researching early American family history.

Just the city directory search page alone is pretty amazing. It's a
hit and miss whether your town and year of interest will be included,
but worth taking a look. So far, I have not identified any links
on this site to genealogy data outside of the USA.

This is the description >from their home page: "Distantcousin is an online
archive of genealogy records and scanned images of historical documents >from a
wide variety of sources, such as newspaper obituaries, city directories,
census records, ship lists, school yearbooks, military records, vital records
and more. In all there are more than 6 million genealogy records >from over 1,500
sources online. There are no fees or memberships required to use the records
at DistantCousin.

This needs to be clarified in that the site itself is free and did in fact
lead to city directories and other resources without charge including pictures
of gravestone, cemetery information, old yearbooks etc. However, in some
instances it linked to that well known fee-for-service web site which includes
online census and other pages that would require payment.

I have no commercial interest in this site and have no further information
as I just happened to find it by chance. Did a search on JewishGen archives
and it appears not to have been mentioned previously.

You can access this site at: www.distantcousin.com

Shelly Levin USA crzprncess@aol.com

[Please write to me privately for a list of the names I am researching]


Early American SIG #USA Distantcousin website #usa

Shelly Crane
 

Hello,
I happened to come across a web site called, "Distantcousin," which is an
archive of "genealogical data and document images."

It appears to have an incredible amount of online information and
in particular nice resources that would be of interest to those genealogists
researching early American family history.

Just the city directory search page alone is pretty amazing. It's a
hit and miss whether your town and year of interest will be included,
but worth taking a look. So far, I have not identified any links
on this site to genealogy data outside of the USA.

This is the description >from their home page: "Distantcousin is an online
archive of genealogy records and scanned images of historical documents >from a
wide variety of sources, such as newspaper obituaries, city directories,
census records, ship lists, school yearbooks, military records, vital records
and more. In all there are more than 6 million genealogy records >from over 1,500
sources online. There are no fees or memberships required to use the records
at DistantCousin.

This needs to be clarified in that the site itself is free and did in fact
lead to city directories and other resources without charge including pictures
of gravestone, cemetery information, old yearbooks etc. However, in some
instances it linked to that well known fee-for-service web site which includes
online census and other pages that would require payment.

I have no commercial interest in this site and have no further information
as I just happened to find it by chance. Did a search on JewishGen archives
and it appears not to have been mentioned previously.

You can access this site at: www.distantcousin.com

Shelly Levin USA crzprncess@aol.com

[Please write to me privately for a list of the names I am researching]


August issue of Sharsheret Hadorot, Vol.21 No.3 #rabbinic

Klausner
 

The August issue of our bi-lingual journal Sharsheret Hadorot just
appeared. It contains several articles about Jewish soldiers in
foreign armies, in addition to the general genealogical subjects,
such as Name Research and Family History. Below are the main
articles:
- George Washington's Jewish Soldiers, by Joseph L. Andrews
- Remarks on the Genealogy of the Zak Family -- The Origin of the
Name and its Meaning, by Israel Haim Zak
- The Shtetl Experience in the Framework of the Red Army in World
War II, by Dov Levin
- A Passing Episode or the Beginning of a Military Tradition? The
military aspect of the Jewish Legion families in World War I, by
Rachel Silko
- About Rabbanit Ceti, by Mathilde Tagger
- The Rabbi who Made a U-Turn, by Yehuda Klausner
- In the Matter of The Memory of Chaim Mendel Pickholz vs.
Assicurazioni
- Generali S.P.A., by Israel Pickholtz

Best wishes and Shana Tova to all, Yocheved

Yocheved Klausner, Editor
Sharsheret Hadorot (bilingual: Hebrew and English)
Israel Genealogical Society (IGS)
Visit our Website: www.isragen.org.il


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic August issue of Sharsheret Hadorot, Vol.21 No.3 #rabbinic

Klausner
 

The August issue of our bi-lingual journal Sharsheret Hadorot just
appeared. It contains several articles about Jewish soldiers in
foreign armies, in addition to the general genealogical subjects,
such as Name Research and Family History. Below are the main
articles:
- George Washington's Jewish Soldiers, by Joseph L. Andrews
- Remarks on the Genealogy of the Zak Family -- The Origin of the
Name and its Meaning, by Israel Haim Zak
- The Shtetl Experience in the Framework of the Red Army in World
War II, by Dov Levin
- A Passing Episode or the Beginning of a Military Tradition? The
military aspect of the Jewish Legion families in World War I, by
Rachel Silko
- About Rabbanit Ceti, by Mathilde Tagger
- The Rabbi who Made a U-Turn, by Yehuda Klausner
- In the Matter of The Memory of Chaim Mendel Pickholz vs.
Assicurazioni
- Generali S.P.A., by Israel Pickholtz

Best wishes and Shana Tova to all, Yocheved

Yocheved Klausner, Editor
Sharsheret Hadorot (bilingual: Hebrew and English)
Israel Genealogical Society (IGS)
Visit our Website: www.isragen.org.il


JGSGW, Bethesda MD, Sunday, Sept. 9, 2007 #dna

Jeff Miller
 

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington
Kicks off the 2007-8 Schedule with a Stimulating Program
S a v e t h e D a t e!

Date: Sunday, September 9, 2007
Time: 1:00 PM Schmooze Time, 1:30 PM Program

Location: Congregation Beth El, 8215 Old Georgetown Road
Bethesda, Maryland 20814

Topic: "Sephardic Genealogy: Resources, Similarities and Differences"
Speaker: Jeffrey Malka, M.D.

In this presentation, Dr. Malka will discuss getting started in
Sephardic Jewish genealogy, where the records are found, and surnames.
Resources will be identified that are especially relevant to pre-
expulsion Spain. He will discuss the similarities and differences
between Sephardic and Eastern European Jewish genealogy. The role and
uses of DNA and the differences found between Sephardic and Ashkenasim
will be presented.

A retired professor of orthopaedic surgery, Jeffrey Malka is the
author of the prize-winning book "Sephardic Genealogy: Discovering
your Sephardic Ancestors and their World" (Avotaynu, 2002) and the
creator of JewishGen's Sephardic SIG website based on his own popular
Sephardic Genealogy Resources website. Descended >from a long line of
Sephardic rabbis going back to 14th century cabbalists and authors (as
well as Catalan blacksmiths and money lenders), he is one of the
pioneers of Sephardic genealogy in the United States and a well known
lecturer on the subject. Dr. Malka has been an invited lecturer at
the Library of Congress, several IAJGS annual conferences, Washington
Jewish Historical Society, and numerous Jewish Genealogy Societies in
the U.S., Canada, and Spain.

____________________

Directions to Beth El (Bethesda)

from Washington, DC
Go north on Wisconsin Avenue
Make a diagonal left onto Old Georgetown Road (MD-187 West) in downtown
Bethesda at the intersection with East-West Highway
Go approximately one mile
Congregation Beth El is on your right at the light for Huntington Parkway
from the Beltway (495)
from the Beltway (495), exit at Old Georgetown Road (exit 36)
Follow the exit ramp South towards Bethesda
Continue on Old Georgetown Road for a 1 3/4 miles
Congregation Beth El is on your left at the light for Huntington Parkway

All are welcome to visit. We charge $5 to non-members to attend a program
meeting, but the fee can go towards membership if you join at a meeting.

I look forward to seeing you at an upcoming program.

Jeff Miller
VP, Administration/Logistics and Publicist
Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington


DNA Research #DNA JGSGW, Bethesda MD, Sunday, Sept. 9, 2007 #dna

Jeff Miller
 

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington
Kicks off the 2007-8 Schedule with a Stimulating Program
S a v e t h e D a t e!

Date: Sunday, September 9, 2007
Time: 1:00 PM Schmooze Time, 1:30 PM Program

Location: Congregation Beth El, 8215 Old Georgetown Road
Bethesda, Maryland 20814

Topic: "Sephardic Genealogy: Resources, Similarities and Differences"
Speaker: Jeffrey Malka, M.D.

In this presentation, Dr. Malka will discuss getting started in
Sephardic Jewish genealogy, where the records are found, and surnames.
Resources will be identified that are especially relevant to pre-
expulsion Spain. He will discuss the similarities and differences
between Sephardic and Eastern European Jewish genealogy. The role and
uses of DNA and the differences found between Sephardic and Ashkenasim
will be presented.

A retired professor of orthopaedic surgery, Jeffrey Malka is the
author of the prize-winning book "Sephardic Genealogy: Discovering
your Sephardic Ancestors and their World" (Avotaynu, 2002) and the
creator of JewishGen's Sephardic SIG website based on his own popular
Sephardic Genealogy Resources website. Descended >from a long line of
Sephardic rabbis going back to 14th century cabbalists and authors (as
well as Catalan blacksmiths and money lenders), he is one of the
pioneers of Sephardic genealogy in the United States and a well known
lecturer on the subject. Dr. Malka has been an invited lecturer at
the Library of Congress, several IAJGS annual conferences, Washington
Jewish Historical Society, and numerous Jewish Genealogy Societies in
the U.S., Canada, and Spain.

____________________

Directions to Beth El (Bethesda)

from Washington, DC
Go north on Wisconsin Avenue
Make a diagonal left onto Old Georgetown Road (MD-187 West) in downtown
Bethesda at the intersection with East-West Highway
Go approximately one mile
Congregation Beth El is on your right at the light for Huntington Parkway
from the Beltway (495)
from the Beltway (495), exit at Old Georgetown Road (exit 36)
Follow the exit ramp South towards Bethesda
Continue on Old Georgetown Road for a 1 3/4 miles
Congregation Beth El is on your left at the light for Huntington Parkway

All are welcome to visit. We charge $5 to non-members to attend a program
meeting, but the fee can go towards membership if you join at a meeting.

I look forward to seeing you at an upcoming program.

Jeff Miller
VP, Administration/Logistics and Publicist
Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington


Re: IRANYI, BING, FALL, LOEB, BIEDERMANN {was: LOEB family, Vienna, Austria; a family chart} #austria-czech

dbing <dbing@...>
 

I should have stated in my initial posting that I am not related (as far as I
know) to the families in the LOEB family chart which Simon Loeb sent to me in
1972. Simon Loeb and my grandfather were first cousins through their mothers,
Rosalie Schwarz Bing and Betti Schwarz Loeb. My BING family is not part of the
LOEB chart. I shall leave working out the details regarding these families to
Randol Schoenberg, Celia Male, and Carole Vogel. I will be interested in the
results of your researches.

Gustav IRANYI, whose grave you mention, was the son of Isaak ISRAEL and Amalie
LOEB (1830-1900; daughter or Gerson Gustav LOEB). According to the chart,
Gustav (1856-1920) was "Exporteur, Konsul d. Argent. Rep. Wien". He appears to
have married his first cousin, Malvine LOEB (1867-1945; daughter of Jacob
LOEB, 1829-1903; "Prokurist, Garnfabrik, Boersenmakier, Wien"). It was
Gustav's and Malvine's son, Ernst Paul IRANY (1896-), who created the chart
and gave a copy to Simon Loeb.

Albert Fall, whom you mention, is on the chart as the son of Catherine Fall.

Dan Bing


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech RE: IRANYI, BING, FALL, LOEB, BIEDERMANN {was: LOEB family, Vienna, Austria; a family chart} #austria-czech

dbing <dbing@...>
 

I should have stated in my initial posting that I am not related (as far as I
know) to the families in the LOEB family chart which Simon Loeb sent to me in
1972. Simon Loeb and my grandfather were first cousins through their mothers,
Rosalie Schwarz Bing and Betti Schwarz Loeb. My BING family is not part of the
LOEB chart. I shall leave working out the details regarding these families to
Randol Schoenberg, Celia Male, and Carole Vogel. I will be interested in the
results of your researches.

Gustav IRANYI, whose grave you mention, was the son of Isaak ISRAEL and Amalie
LOEB (1830-1900; daughter or Gerson Gustav LOEB). According to the chart,
Gustav (1856-1920) was "Exporteur, Konsul d. Argent. Rep. Wien". He appears to
have married his first cousin, Malvine LOEB (1867-1945; daughter of Jacob
LOEB, 1829-1903; "Prokurist, Garnfabrik, Boersenmakier, Wien"). It was
Gustav's and Malvine's son, Ernst Paul IRANY (1896-), who created the chart
and gave a copy to Simon Loeb.

Albert Fall, whom you mention, is on the chart as the son of Catherine Fall.

Dan Bing


Re: HERMANN-KAFKA question #austria-czech

Ron Herrmann <ron_herrmann@...>
 

Micheline, Thanks for the information about the HERRMANN(s) and the KA
FKA(s). I think you have a mistake. Franz KAFKA's sister, Gabriel
e (Elie), married Karl HERRMANN. Felix HERRMANN is their child. I am not
aware of a Charles HERRMANN. Karl HERRMANN's brother is Paul and his father
is Leopold. Karl was a subject of many of Franz' writings, mainly
because of business dealings he had with Franz himself and also with Franz's
father who's name is Herrmann (first name). Can you imagine? Franz Kafka
is running a factory? Together with his brother-in-law? With 25 workers?
Actually, Karl HERRMANN did a favor for Herrmann KAFKA to try to settle Franz
into some business. Of course, that "experiment" was doomed and the
factory under Franz's management was total failure due to Franz's lack of
business skills and lack of interest in running a business. Also, the family
photographer who made almost all of the famous Franz KAFKA pictures is a
HERRMANN. I cannot tell if Karl HERRMANN and/or the photographer are
related to my HERRMANN family. My family tree is extensive and well
researched, but I have some holes in my family tree, so they may be still
related to my family tree.

Ron Herrmann, New Jersey, US
Researching Reichenbach, Rogowykamen (Eckstein), Spector,
Raizman >from Poland (Siedlce area) Researching Herrmann,
Robitschek, Abeles, Lowenstein, Loebl(Loewe), Mahler, Kafka
from Czech Republic (Prague and Saaz/Zatec areas)
From: "Micheline GUTMANN"
In case it can be useful to Ron HERMANN, we have in our
Belgian file the following family mentioned: Felix HERMANN born in Prague
snip>>


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: HERMANN-KAFKA question #austria-czech

Ron Herrmann <ron_herrmann@...>
 

Micheline, Thanks for the information about the HERRMANN(s) and the KA
FKA(s). I think you have a mistake. Franz KAFKA's sister, Gabriel
e (Elie), married Karl HERRMANN. Felix HERRMANN is their child. I am not
aware of a Charles HERRMANN. Karl HERRMANN's brother is Paul and his father
is Leopold. Karl was a subject of many of Franz' writings, mainly
because of business dealings he had with Franz himself and also with Franz's
father who's name is Herrmann (first name). Can you imagine? Franz Kafka
is running a factory? Together with his brother-in-law? With 25 workers?
Actually, Karl HERRMANN did a favor for Herrmann KAFKA to try to settle Franz
into some business. Of course, that "experiment" was doomed and the
factory under Franz's management was total failure due to Franz's lack of
business skills and lack of interest in running a business. Also, the family
photographer who made almost all of the famous Franz KAFKA pictures is a
HERRMANN. I cannot tell if Karl HERRMANN and/or the photographer are
related to my HERRMANN family. My family tree is extensive and well
researched, but I have some holes in my family tree, so they may be still
related to my family tree.

Ron Herrmann, New Jersey, US
Researching Reichenbach, Rogowykamen (Eckstein), Spector,
Raizman >from Poland (Siedlce area) Researching Herrmann,
Robitschek, Abeles, Lowenstein, Loebl(Loewe), Mahler, Kafka
from Czech Republic (Prague and Saaz/Zatec areas)
From: "Micheline GUTMANN"
In case it can be useful to Ron HERMANN, we have in our
Belgian file the following family mentioned: Felix HERMANN born in Prague
snip>>


Jewish History Website for Towns in Vysoèina Region (Moravia) #austria-czech

Brad Fanta <bradfanta@...>
 

While surfing the web over the holiday weekend, I came
across this interesting website: zide.vzahrade.net

Although it’s all in Czech, I can tell that someone
really spent time researching the Jewish histories of
these villages and towns in the Vysoèina Region of
Morvaia:

Batelov Brtnice Hybrálec Jihlava Markvarec Olšany Polná
Pøíseka Puklice Rantíøov Staré Mìsto pod Landštejnem
Støítež Telè Tøebíè Tøeš Velké Meziøíèí Vìtrný Jeníkov
Zadní Vydøí

Certainly an English translation would have greater
impact to those researching this area. Is anyone up
for a mitzvah and slowing going through the site to
translate the text into English? Perhaps it would be
good to first contact whoever created this site. I
couldn’t tell who to contact >from first glance. I’m
glad to help in any way, but I only know about 20
words of Czech!

I will be traveling to Moravia later this month to
meet distant POKORNY relatives for the first time and
visiting both Jihlava and Puklice.

Brad Fanta
Seattle, Washington


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Jewish History Website for Towns in Vysoèina Region (Moravia) #austria-czech

Brad Fanta <bradfanta@...>
 

While surfing the web over the holiday weekend, I came
across this interesting website: zide.vzahrade.net

Although it’s all in Czech, I can tell that someone
really spent time researching the Jewish histories of
these villages and towns in the Vysoèina Region of
Morvaia:

Batelov Brtnice Hybrálec Jihlava Markvarec Olšany Polná
Pøíseka Puklice Rantíøov Staré Mìsto pod Landštejnem
Støítež Telè Tøebíè Tøeš Velké Meziøíèí Vìtrný Jeníkov
Zadní Vydøí

Certainly an English translation would have greater
impact to those researching this area. Is anyone up
for a mitzvah and slowing going through the site to
translate the text into English? Perhaps it would be
good to first contact whoever created this site. I
couldn’t tell who to contact >from first glance. I’m
glad to help in any way, but I only know about 20
words of Czech!

I will be traveling to Moravia later this month to
meet distant POKORNY relatives for the first time and
visiting both Jihlava and Puklice.

Brad Fanta
Seattle, Washington


Zolkiew House Numbers #poland

Brian Stern <brians99@...>
 

Hi All,

I've been looking at the Zolkiew death records >from the newly
available microfilm. Each entry has a house number column. The
format of these entries is something like

87 1/5

All the entries have a denominator of 5 and a numerator >from 1 to 5.
For example:

146 1/5
50 4/5
101 2/5

and so on.

I'm wondering if anyone knows what the meaning of the "fraction" is.

--
Brian Stern
brians99@bellsouth.net


JRI Poland #Poland Zolkiew House Numbers #poland

Brian Stern <brians99@...>
 

Hi All,

I've been looking at the Zolkiew death records >from the newly
available microfilm. Each entry has a house number column. The
format of these entries is something like

87 1/5

All the entries have a denominator of 5 and a numerator >from 1 to 5.
For example:

146 1/5
50 4/5
101 2/5

and so on.

I'm wondering if anyone knows what the meaning of the "fraction" is.

--
Brian Stern
brians99@bellsouth.net


Myles Standish Marseille Vice Consul #austria-czech

Thomas F. Weiss
 

Dear fellow JGenners,

During the late 1930s and early 1940s, refugees >from all over
Europe, particularly >from Germany, Austria, Czechoslovakia, and
Poland streamed >from the German occupied territories to France. When
France was defeated, many of these refugees went to the port city of
Marseille in the then unoccupied part of France. Here they were
often stuck in a bureaucratic quagmire created by the reluctance of
the French government to issue exit visas and the reluctance of the
American State Department to issue entry visas to the US. Most
American consuls followed the orders of the State Department to limit
immigration to the US. But, the Marseille consulate contained two
Vice Consuls who were sympathetic to the plight of refugees. These
were Hiram Bingham and Myles Standish. These two men also worked
closely with Varian Fry who helped to rescue prominent German,
Austrian, Czech, and Polish intellectuals then resident in France and
whose names were on a Nazi hit list.

Varian Fry has been honored posthumously for his rescue efforts.
Hiram BIngham has also been posthumously honored for his
conscientious stand on behalf of refugees against State Department
orders. His career ultimately suffered for his stand. A
commemorative stamp has been issued for him, he has gotten a State
Department commendation, and was honored by Yad Vashem.

Myles Standish worked closely with Bingham and Fry, also suffered
professionally for his moral stand, but his good works have not been
recognized. I am beholden to him since he signed both my entry visa
into the US and my mothers in 1941 enabling us to escape Europe
shortly before the curtain fell and no further emigration was
possible. My mother was born in Vienna, Austria and I was born in
Prague, Czechoslovakia.

I am researching the life of Myles Standish with the intention of
honoring him for his works. Unfortunately he is no longer alive but
some of this family members are and I am in touch with them.

I would like to hear >from other former refugees who were helped by
Myles Standish. I would also like to hear >from anyone who has any
knowledge of Myles Standish. Please reply privately. I would be
happy to help people who were assisted by Standish contact each other
upon request and with their permission.

Thomas Fischer Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@mit.edu

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER (Skalat); ENGEL (Vienna);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague); FRAENKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov,
Vienna); KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna,
Vienna); OLLOP (Vienna); ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor);
QUADRATSTEIN (Vienna, Saarbrucken); VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice,
Benesov, Tabor)


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Myles Standish Marseille Vice Consul #austria-czech

Thomas F. Weiss
 

Dear fellow JGenners,

During the late 1930s and early 1940s, refugees >from all over
Europe, particularly >from Germany, Austria, Czechoslovakia, and
Poland streamed >from the German occupied territories to France. When
France was defeated, many of these refugees went to the port city of
Marseille in the then unoccupied part of France. Here they were
often stuck in a bureaucratic quagmire created by the reluctance of
the French government to issue exit visas and the reluctance of the
American State Department to issue entry visas to the US. Most
American consuls followed the orders of the State Department to limit
immigration to the US. But, the Marseille consulate contained two
Vice Consuls who were sympathetic to the plight of refugees. These
were Hiram Bingham and Myles Standish. These two men also worked
closely with Varian Fry who helped to rescue prominent German,
Austrian, Czech, and Polish intellectuals then resident in France and
whose names were on a Nazi hit list.

Varian Fry has been honored posthumously for his rescue efforts.
Hiram BIngham has also been posthumously honored for his
conscientious stand on behalf of refugees against State Department
orders. His career ultimately suffered for his stand. A
commemorative stamp has been issued for him, he has gotten a State
Department commendation, and was honored by Yad Vashem.

Myles Standish worked closely with Bingham and Fry, also suffered
professionally for his moral stand, but his good works have not been
recognized. I am beholden to him since he signed both my entry visa
into the US and my mothers in 1941 enabling us to escape Europe
shortly before the curtain fell and no further emigration was
possible. My mother was born in Vienna, Austria and I was born in
Prague, Czechoslovakia.

I am researching the life of Myles Standish with the intention of
honoring him for his works. Unfortunately he is no longer alive but
some of this family members are and I am in touch with them.

I would like to hear >from other former refugees who were helped by
Myles Standish. I would also like to hear >from anyone who has any
knowledge of Myles Standish. Please reply privately. I would be
happy to help people who were assisted by Standish contact each other
upon request and with their permission.

Thomas Fischer Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@mit.edu

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER (Skalat); ENGEL (Vienna);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague); FRAENKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov,
Vienna); KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna,
Vienna); OLLOP (Vienna); ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor);
QUADRATSTEIN (Vienna, Saarbrucken); VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice,
Benesov, Tabor)


Sigmund GOLDSCHMIEDT #austria-czech

duccio leoni <duccio.leoni@...>
 

Hello Jenners again!

Forgot the details of the burial:
Name Birthday Age Deceased Date of funeral Cemetery Group Row Grave
Goldschmiedt Sigmund 59 Years old, died 03/14/1887, funeral, 03/16/1887,
Cemetery Zentralfriedhof I. TOR, Group 5b, Row 3, Grave 27.
Please answer to my personal address duccio.leoni@onetel.net
Thank you

D.Leoni
217885


From: "duccio leoni" <duccio.leoni@onetel.net>
I just received the will of one of my great uncles >from the very helpful
Prof. Dr Ferdinand Opll of the Wiener Stadt that I have had translated.
snip>>


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Sigmund GOLDSCHMIEDT #austria-czech

duccio leoni <duccio.leoni@...>
 

Hello Jenners again!

Forgot the details of the burial:
Name Birthday Age Deceased Date of funeral Cemetery Group Row Grave
Goldschmiedt Sigmund 59 Years old, died 03/14/1887, funeral, 03/16/1887,
Cemetery Zentralfriedhof I. TOR, Group 5b, Row 3, Grave 27.
Please answer to my personal address duccio.leoni@onetel.net
Thank you

D.Leoni
217885


From: "duccio leoni" <duccio.leoni@onetel.net>
I just received the will of one of my great uncles >from the very helpful
Prof. Dr Ferdinand Opll of the Wiener Stadt that I have had translated.
snip>>


Re: IRANYI, BING, FALL, LOEB, BIEDERMANN {was: LOEB family, Vienna, Austria; a family chart} #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Daniel Bing of Knoxville TN wrote: "My grandfather, Leo BING, and Simon LOEB, a
founding partner of the Manhattan accounting firm Loeb & Troper, were first
cousins. Simon Loeb sent me a LOEB family chart about 35 years ago which he had
received about 25 years earlier >from a cousin named Ernest IRANY. According to
the chart, the LOEB family is descended >from LOEB (first name unknown) who
lived in the last half of the 18th century. He was a court banker and
“Paechter der Muenze” in Vienna. A note states that this family of “tolerated
Jews” was related to Baron BIEDERMANN who was important at the time of
Napoleon. I assume this is the same person as Michael Lazar BIEDERMANN whose
biography can be found in the Jewish Encyclopedia.

LOEB had a son, Gerson Gustav LOEB (1785-1855) who married Susanne MULLER
(u-umlaut) whose father had a business at the “Hohen Markt” in Vienna, Worms,
Rhein-Hessen... children: Amalie (married Isaak ISRAEL of Mattersdorf, Hungary
[Burgenland), Abraham LOEB, Maier Wolf (Max) LOEB (father of Simon LOEB), Titel
(married HEIM), Katherine (married FALL), Blume LOEB, and Jacob LOEB.

Other names appearing in the chart are: EINORL (o-umlaut); EINERL; IRANI;
IRANYI For example: Rudolf IRANY ( b. 1892), came to Canada as a p.o.w. in
1915; married Irene EGAN; son Lawrence (b. 1928); Fritz IRANYI (b. 1898), fled
Vienna 1939, to Buhl, Idaho, daughter Hilda (b. 1935); Liese IRANYI (b.
1900), married Ernst HOFMANN, immigrated to Canada in 1930, daughters Herta
Ann (b. 1933) and Greta (b. 1937); Ernest Paul IRANY (b. 1896), immigrated to
Canada in 1923, to USA in 1944, married Judith ROSENGARTEN, children:
Phyllis Grace (b. 1934), Helen Ruth (b. 1937, John David (b. 1942)."

First of all, welcome to our SIG, Daniel - I hope you will find it fruitful and
thank you to Uri Meretz for suggesting you post here as we can all learn much
from your posting. You have so much data here that it would need a year or two
of research in Vienna and elsewhere to disentangle it - but it could be done
and there would be fascinating links established.

1. IRANYI: For a starter: here is a Vienna grave of an IRANYI:
IRANYI Gustav aged 64 died 20.08.1920 Zentralfriedhof IV. TOR 5 3 10
That in itself will yield a lot of data. I wonder what the original name of
the IRANYI family was before it was Hungarianised? Could it have been ISRAEL?
See the family above >from Mattersdorf. That would explain the LOEB-IRANYI link.

Then we have two IRANYI asset files >from 1938:
IRANYI Anna dob 22 Sept 1893, IRANYI Julius dob 7 April 1883

In 1933 Julius IRANYI lived at a prestigious address Schubert Ring 1 and was
the representative of textile companies; Julien DALTROFF and Cie and and
FISCHBACHER of St Gallen Switzerland. There were a few other IRANYI too Dr Paul
and Dr Leontine - a married couple - and Malvine [HOFMANN - was that her
maiden name - or is a HOFMANN living at the same address - this has to be
investigated. It matches a HOFMANN name you have. And there is the artist,
Ella who was a holocaust victim.

2. BING: When we come to the BING family we could write a book about them, and
and indeed at least one book has been written about the Paris "art nouveau"
branch [Siegfried and Marcel]. This was a large family that spread throughout
the world and was very artistic and influential. I have Simon BING on my tree
from Hamburg and he married into FUNK family >from Prossnitz, Moravia and the
four children two boys and two girls {married KARPELES >from Prague and HIRSCH
from Prossnitz] lived in Vienna.
There were four BING brothers in Frankfurt in the early 1800s: Moses Salamon,
Isaac, Loeb Modo Leopold [moved to Paris]; Michael Salomon. They were cousins s
of the Hamburg BING family.

3. FALL - here appears to be the grave in Vienna: Zentralfriedhof I. TOR 19 14
3
FALL Albert Eduard aged 68 13.04.1940 17.04.1940 [he may have committed
suicide or been a Buchenwald/Dachau victim?]
FALL Aron Leopold aged 68 buried 26.12.1897
FALL Katharina aged 57 buried 02.04.1894
These children may also be in the grave .
SPRUNG Helene aged 3 buried 19.10.1897 and SPRUNG Sali aged 4 months
4. LOEB: Gerson is buried in Wahringer cemetery; LOB [umlaut o] Gerson aged
66 died 03.08.1856 Grave 8 286. If his will has been preserved in Vienna, it
should yield a lot of information.

5. BIEDERMANM is a chapter in itself. I wonder if the LOEB BING had anything to
do with the LOEB branch? Please look at Randy Schoenberg's BIEDERMANN tree:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~randols/WC02/WC02_242.HTM
and do some googling..

The BIEDERMANN link on to my tree to as they were the maternal grandparents
[their name was FREISTADT before they hooked the BIEDERMANN onto it] of my
gtgtgt aunt Minna {nee DIAMANT} BIACH.

You have a lifetime's work here Daniel and I am sure you will link onto my
tree, Randy's tree and countless others, if that is what you would like! The
families are fascinating and it is well-worth the effort.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: IRANYI, BING, FALL, LOEB, BIEDERMANN {was: LOEB family, Vienna, Austria; a family chart} #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Daniel Bing of Knoxville TN wrote: "My grandfather, Leo BING, and Simon LOEB, a
founding partner of the Manhattan accounting firm Loeb & Troper, were first
cousins. Simon Loeb sent me a LOEB family chart about 35 years ago which he had
received about 25 years earlier >from a cousin named Ernest IRANY. According to
the chart, the LOEB family is descended >from LOEB (first name unknown) who
lived in the last half of the 18th century. He was a court banker and
“Paechter der Muenze” in Vienna. A note states that this family of “tolerated
Jews” was related to Baron BIEDERMANN who was important at the time of
Napoleon. I assume this is the same person as Michael Lazar BIEDERMANN whose
biography can be found in the Jewish Encyclopedia.

LOEB had a son, Gerson Gustav LOEB (1785-1855) who married Susanne MULLER
(u-umlaut) whose father had a business at the “Hohen Markt” in Vienna, Worms,
Rhein-Hessen... children: Amalie (married Isaak ISRAEL of Mattersdorf, Hungary
[Burgenland), Abraham LOEB, Maier Wolf (Max) LOEB (father of Simon LOEB), Titel
(married HEIM), Katherine (married FALL), Blume LOEB, and Jacob LOEB.

Other names appearing in the chart are: EINORL (o-umlaut); EINERL; IRANI;
IRANYI For example: Rudolf IRANY ( b. 1892), came to Canada as a p.o.w. in
1915; married Irene EGAN; son Lawrence (b. 1928); Fritz IRANYI (b. 1898), fled
Vienna 1939, to Buhl, Idaho, daughter Hilda (b. 1935); Liese IRANYI (b.
1900), married Ernst HOFMANN, immigrated to Canada in 1930, daughters Herta
Ann (b. 1933) and Greta (b. 1937); Ernest Paul IRANY (b. 1896), immigrated to
Canada in 1923, to USA in 1944, married Judith ROSENGARTEN, children:
Phyllis Grace (b. 1934), Helen Ruth (b. 1937, John David (b. 1942)."

First of all, welcome to our SIG, Daniel - I hope you will find it fruitful and
thank you to Uri Meretz for suggesting you post here as we can all learn much
from your posting. You have so much data here that it would need a year or two
of research in Vienna and elsewhere to disentangle it - but it could be done
and there would be fascinating links established.

1. IRANYI: For a starter: here is a Vienna grave of an IRANYI:
IRANYI Gustav aged 64 died 20.08.1920 Zentralfriedhof IV. TOR 5 3 10
That in itself will yield a lot of data. I wonder what the original name of
the IRANYI family was before it was Hungarianised? Could it have been ISRAEL?
See the family above >from Mattersdorf. That would explain the LOEB-IRANYI link.

Then we have two IRANYI asset files >from 1938:
IRANYI Anna dob 22 Sept 1893, IRANYI Julius dob 7 April 1883

In 1933 Julius IRANYI lived at a prestigious address Schubert Ring 1 and was
the representative of textile companies; Julien DALTROFF and Cie and and
FISCHBACHER of St Gallen Switzerland. There were a few other IRANYI too Dr Paul
and Dr Leontine - a married couple - and Malvine [HOFMANN - was that her
maiden name - or is a HOFMANN living at the same address - this has to be
investigated. It matches a HOFMANN name you have. And there is the artist,
Ella who was a holocaust victim.

2. BING: When we come to the BING family we could write a book about them, and
and indeed at least one book has been written about the Paris "art nouveau"
branch [Siegfried and Marcel]. This was a large family that spread throughout
the world and was very artistic and influential. I have Simon BING on my tree
from Hamburg and he married into FUNK family >from Prossnitz, Moravia and the
four children two boys and two girls {married KARPELES >from Prague and HIRSCH
from Prossnitz] lived in Vienna.
There were four BING brothers in Frankfurt in the early 1800s: Moses Salamon,
Isaac, Loeb Modo Leopold [moved to Paris]; Michael Salomon. They were cousins s
of the Hamburg BING family.

3. FALL - here appears to be the grave in Vienna: Zentralfriedhof I. TOR 19 14
3
FALL Albert Eduard aged 68 13.04.1940 17.04.1940 [he may have committed
suicide or been a Buchenwald/Dachau victim?]
FALL Aron Leopold aged 68 buried 26.12.1897
FALL Katharina aged 57 buried 02.04.1894
These children may also be in the grave .
SPRUNG Helene aged 3 buried 19.10.1897 and SPRUNG Sali aged 4 months
4. LOEB: Gerson is buried in Wahringer cemetery; LOB [umlaut o] Gerson aged
66 died 03.08.1856 Grave 8 286. If his will has been preserved in Vienna, it
should yield a lot of information.

5. BIEDERMANM is a chapter in itself. I wonder if the LOEB BING had anything to
do with the LOEB branch? Please look at Randy Schoenberg's BIEDERMANN tree:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~randols/WC02/WC02_242.HTM
and do some googling..

The BIEDERMANN link on to my tree to as they were the maternal grandparents
[their name was FREISTADT before they hooked the BIEDERMANN onto it] of my
gtgtgt aunt Minna {nee DIAMANT} BIACH.

You have a lifetime's work here Daniel and I am sure you will link onto my
tree, Randy's tree and countless others, if that is what you would like! The
families are fascinating and it is well-worth the effort.

Celia Male [U.K.]