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Re: Options for proof of birth date #general

Lisa Lepore
 

These messages also remind me of a story in my family. One story we always heard
growing up was that my great grandfather and his friend each had a child born on
the same day. As the story was told to us, the 2 fathers were waiting together for
the births of their children. They were very happy of course, and went out
celebrating after they got the news. Well, eventually I got around to looking up
her date of birth and found that she was recorded on one day, and my grandfather
the next.

My grandfather's name was terribly messed up. He was recorded as a girl, so the
date could be wrong as well. They had the same doctor, so maybe he was confused by
the time he recorded the births? I guess I'll never know for sure.

Since any of these records can be wrong, I would probably choose the date on the
draft registration or marriage record since these are the dates the person would
have likely sed himself, and make some notations about the lack of an actual
record.

Lisa
lisa.lepore2@...
#110233
Mendon, MA

From: Stephen L Snyder cat2steve@...
This happened with my grandfather, Ben SNYDER. He was born in Baltimore
in October 1888, but there is a one month gap in the birth certificates, and
since he was born within that gap, he wasn't able to get one when he applied for
a passport in 1960.
From: Trudy Barchcousintrudy@... In the early 1900s in the USA
most babies were born at home and did not have a birth certificate. In
lieu of no birth certificate which secondary document would be best
accepted for a birth date?
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Options for proof of birth date #general

Lisa Lepore
 

These messages also remind me of a story in my family. One story we always heard
growing up was that my great grandfather and his friend each had a child born on
the same day. As the story was told to us, the 2 fathers were waiting together for
the births of their children. They were very happy of course, and went out
celebrating after they got the news. Well, eventually I got around to looking up
her date of birth and found that she was recorded on one day, and my grandfather
the next.

My grandfather's name was terribly messed up. He was recorded as a girl, so the
date could be wrong as well. They had the same doctor, so maybe he was confused by
the time he recorded the births? I guess I'll never know for sure.

Since any of these records can be wrong, I would probably choose the date on the
draft registration or marriage record since these are the dates the person would
have likely sed himself, and make some notations about the lack of an actual
record.

Lisa
lisa.lepore2@...
#110233
Mendon, MA

From: Stephen L Snyder cat2steve@...
This happened with my grandfather, Ben SNYDER. He was born in Baltimore
in October 1888, but there is a one month gap in the birth certificates, and
since he was born within that gap, he wasn't able to get one when he applied for
a passport in 1960.
From: Trudy Barchcousintrudy@... In the early 1900s in the USA
most babies were born at home and did not have a birth certificate. In
lieu of no birth certificate which secondary document would be best
accepted for a birth date?
MENDELBAUM family Radom (Przysucha/Szydlowiec) #general

Vincent Mendelbaum <vmendelbaum@...>
 

Hello everybody,
I 'm looking for informations about my MENDELBAUM family ancestry. The older
MENDELBAUM in my family I found is Kysel MENDELBAUM (father of Avram Reuwen
MENDELBAUM). All descendants of Avram Reuwen (born in 1830/1835 and decesed in
Szydlowiec in 1895) were born in Szydlowiec or Pzysucha.

But I don't find any informations in Radom about him and his father. Besides, I
found his pass-ticket to Radom Gubernia, so he probably comes outside.

The only Kysel (Chassejl) MENDELBAUM act I found in JRI is a death act in
Krasnik in 1837. Could it be him ? Do you have any informations about this family?
Thanks
Vincent Mendelbaum
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen MENDELBAUM family Radom (Przysucha/Szydlowiec) #general

Vincent Mendelbaum <vmendelbaum@...>
 

Hello everybody,
I 'm looking for informations about my MENDELBAUM family ancestry. The older
MENDELBAUM in my family I found is Kysel MENDELBAUM (father of Avram Reuwen
MENDELBAUM). All descendants of Avram Reuwen (born in 1830/1835 and decesed in
Szydlowiec in 1895) were born in Szydlowiec or Pzysucha.

But I don't find any informations in Radom about him and his father. Besides, I
found his pass-ticket to Radom Gubernia, so he probably comes outside.

The only Kysel (Chassejl) MENDELBAUM act I found in JRI is a death act in
Krasnik in 1837. Could it be him ? Do you have any informations about this family?
Thanks
Vincent Mendelbaum
Re: Cohn/Kohn family Poland-New York and New Jersey #general

A. E. Jordan
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ira Martin Leviton
in the New York City area, he can obtain the date of death and the death
certificate number >from the N.Y.C. death indices in room 103 of the main branch of
New York Public Library


As mentioned in a posting yesterday, the New York City Death Index is in Room 119
at the New York Public Library at 42nd Street and Fifth Avenue. It indexes deaths
to 1982 with only 1967 missing. It will give the name, the age, the date of death,
the borough, and the certificate number. It also notes if there were special
circumstances such as a medical examiner's investigation. The earlier years are on
microfilm and the later years in book form.

(By the by don't go to Room 103 -- that is microforms in the south west corner of
the building where you can find newspapers and telephone books. It's the opposite
end of the building >from the genealogy rooms --121 and 119 -- where you find
resources including the vital records index, census, city directories plus the
databases and other reference materials.

I do look ups for people when I am in Manhattan.

Allan Jordan
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Cohn/Kohn family Poland-New York and New Jersey #general

A. E. Jordan
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ira Martin Leviton
in the New York City area, he can obtain the date of death and the death
certificate number >from the N.Y.C. death indices in room 103 of the main branch of
New York Public Library


As mentioned in a posting yesterday, the New York City Death Index is in Room 119
at the New York Public Library at 42nd Street and Fifth Avenue. It indexes deaths
to 1982 with only 1967 missing. It will give the name, the age, the date of death,
the borough, and the certificate number. It also notes if there were special
circumstances such as a medical examiner's investigation. The earlier years are on
microfilm and the later years in book form.

(By the by don't go to Room 103 -- that is microforms in the south west corner of
the building where you can find newspapers and telephone books. It's the opposite
end of the building >from the genealogy rooms --121 and 119 -- where you find
resources including the vital records index, census, city directories plus the
databases and other reference materials.

I do look ups for people when I am in Manhattan.

Allan Jordan
How to find an obituary from Riga from 1935 #lithuania

Moshe Schaeffer
 

I am trying to find the the obituary for Mr.Liev (aka
Lieb) KADISH. I have the obituary for his wife Chienna Yenta >from the
newspaper the Haint >from Riga on Friday 23 Nissan 5695 (April 26 1935)
in which it says The funeral takes place exactly on the same day – Isru
Chag Pesach (day after Passover) - when her husband Liebe Kaddish of
blessed memory was laid to rest. Is there a way for me to find the
newspaper the Haint or other newspapers >from this time period or his
obituary in other place he was a well know person. I have found out what
happened to most of there 10 children I am still looking for a son who
was in Germany and a daughter and one more son who i think died during
WW1 . Thank you for your help in this matter.

Moshe Schaeffer
Jerusalem Israel
--
Searching for:
BERMAN _
BUCHMAK -
COVITZ -St Louis Missouri
HIRSCHOWITZ - Friedrichstadt, Riga, New York
KADISCH - Riga
KAUFF - Wolcysk, Russia
KIRSCHNER - Poland, New York
KIRZNER- Poland
LITVAK -
LEVINE -
ROSESTEIN - Russia
SCHAEFFER - New York
SHEVAKH- Peski
SHMERKOVITZ -
SHUVAL - Kovno
WORK - Yanoff, Galicia, Austria , New York
WAG - Yanoff, Galicia, Austria
WEISS- New York
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania How to find an obituary from Riga from 1935 #lithuania

Moshe Schaeffer
 

I am trying to find the the obituary for Mr.Liev (aka
Lieb) KADISH. I have the obituary for his wife Chienna Yenta >from the
newspaper the Haint >from Riga on Friday 23 Nissan 5695 (April 26 1935)
in which it says The funeral takes place exactly on the same day – Isru
Chag Pesach (day after Passover) - when her husband Liebe Kaddish of
blessed memory was laid to rest. Is there a way for me to find the
newspaper the Haint or other newspapers >from this time period or his
obituary in other place he was a well know person. I have found out what
happened to most of there 10 children I am still looking for a son who
was in Germany and a daughter and one more son who i think died during
WW1 . Thank you for your help in this matter.

Moshe Schaeffer
Jerusalem Israel
--
Searching for:
BERMAN _
BUCHMAK -
COVITZ -St Louis Missouri
HIRSCHOWITZ - Friedrichstadt, Riga, New York
KADISCH - Riga
KAUFF - Wolcysk, Russia
KIRSCHNER - Poland, New York
KIRZNER- Poland
LITVAK -
LEVINE -
ROSESTEIN - Russia
SCHAEFFER - New York
SHEVAKH- Peski
SHMERKOVITZ -
SHUVAL - Kovno
WORK - Yanoff, Galicia, Austria , New York
WAG - Yanoff, Galicia, Austria
WEISS- New York
(European Union) Guidelines to Expand "Right To Be Forgotten" #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Two recent developments this week on the European Union and the "Right to be
Forgotten" and "Internet Dominance" by Google.

1. Last May the European Union Court of Justice (EUCJ) decision against Google
requires the search engine, to remove certain links to articles that the named
person requests be taken down, the Right to be Forgotten"; and 2.The European
Union (EU) Proposed Data Privacy Regulation which includes both a provision for
"Right to be Forgotten" and the "Right to Erasure". On November 26 the European
Union issued guidelines which will be released to the public later this week that
would expand their "Right to be Forgotten" to all countries where the search
engines operate-another words worldwide.While the Court case was found against
Google, which has over 85 percent of the search engine market in the European Union
countries, the "Right to be Forgotten" is a EU concept that affects all search
engines. The concern is that people could do a search on the non-EU websites and
obtain the information that was removed in the EU such as looking at the US website
of Google.com. To read the announcement of the guideline, see:
http://tinyurl.com/oq5flnk
Original url:
http://ec.europa.eu/justice/data-protection/article-29/press-material/press-release/art29_press_material/20141126_wp29_press_release_ecj_de-listing.pdf

To read more about this see the New York Times article at:
http://tinyurl.com/q7n2tpm
Original url:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/27/technology/right-to-be-forgotten-should-be-extended-beyond-europe-eu-panel-says.html?emc=eta1

Thank you to Eden Joachim for sharing the NY Times article with us.

2. On November 27 the EU Parliament voted to break up Google in a non-binding vote
to prevent search engines such as Google >from having "internet dominance" and from
being involved in other commercial activities on the Internet- in other words
"unbundling" different services. While it's non-binding, it will add to the
"pressure" that the EU is giving to Google regarding antitrust concerns. The EU
Parliament does not have the formal power over antitrust policy in the 28 countries
of the European Union. That power rests with the European Commission. To read more
on this see: http://tinyurl.com/m4gac7v
Original url:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/28/business/international/google-european-union.html.

Past postings on the European Union and the proposed data privacy regulation and
more on the recent Parliament vote on unbundling Internet search engines may be
found in the IAJGS Records Access Alert archives :
[http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts ] . You must
be a registered subscriber to access the archives. To register go to:
http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts and follow
the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which
JGS/JHS/SIG/JewishGen is your affiliation You will receive an email
response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be finalized.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (European Union) Guidelines to Expand "Right To Be Forgotten" #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Two recent developments this week on the European Union and the "Right to be
Forgotten" and "Internet Dominance" by Google.

1. Last May the European Union Court of Justice (EUCJ) decision against Google
requires the search engine, to remove certain links to articles that the named
person requests be taken down, the Right to be Forgotten"; and 2.The European
Union (EU) Proposed Data Privacy Regulation which includes both a provision for
"Right to be Forgotten" and the "Right to Erasure". On November 26 the European
Union issued guidelines which will be released to the public later this week that
would expand their "Right to be Forgotten" to all countries where the search
engines operate-another words worldwide.While the Court case was found against
Google, which has over 85 percent of the search engine market in the European Union
countries, the "Right to be Forgotten" is a EU concept that affects all search
engines. The concern is that people could do a search on the non-EU websites and
obtain the information that was removed in the EU such as looking at the US website
of Google.com. To read the announcement of the guideline, see:
http://tinyurl.com/oq5flnk
Original url:
http://ec.europa.eu/justice/data-protection/article-29/press-material/press-release/art29_press_material/20141126_wp29_press_release_ecj_de-listing.pdf

To read more about this see the New York Times article at:
http://tinyurl.com/q7n2tpm
Original url:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/27/technology/right-to-be-forgotten-should-be-extended-beyond-europe-eu-panel-says.html?emc=eta1

Thank you to Eden Joachim for sharing the NY Times article with us.

2. On November 27 the EU Parliament voted to break up Google in a non-binding vote
to prevent search engines such as Google >from having "internet dominance" and from
being involved in other commercial activities on the Internet- in other words
"unbundling" different services. While it's non-binding, it will add to the
"pressure" that the EU is giving to Google regarding antitrust concerns. The EU
Parliament does not have the formal power over antitrust policy in the 28 countries
of the European Union. That power rests with the European Commission. To read more
on this see: http://tinyurl.com/m4gac7v
Original url:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/28/business/international/google-european-union.html.

Past postings on the European Union and the proposed data privacy regulation and
more on the recent Parliament vote on unbundling Internet search engines may be
found in the IAJGS Records Access Alert archives :
[http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts ] . You must
be a registered subscriber to access the archives. To register go to:
http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts and follow
the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which
JGS/JHS/SIG/JewishGen is your affiliation You will receive an email
response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be finalized.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
Re: Cohn/Kohn family Poland-New York and New Jersey #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

F. Iwaniski is looking for the Kohn/Cohn family >from New Jersey, and mentioned that
Laibush Cohn died around 1968 to 1970 in Queens, New York. Bernard, Murry and Eli
were the names of his sons.

Obviously, the surnames Kohn and Cohn are too common to easily track except when
paried with very unusual first names, which may not be the case here.

The easiest thing to do first is check the on-line databases for Mount Ararat,
Mount Zion, Mount Hebron, Mount Carmel, Mount Lebanon, Mount Judah, Montefiore, and
New Montefiore Cemeteries, and also JOWBR. If he finds Laibush, the cemetery
should be able to provide some information about the next of kin, including where
they lived, which should help narrow things down even though it's old information.
(I concede that it also may depend on the mood of the person who answers the phone
in the cemetery office.) With a little luck, like annual care payments to maintain
the grave, the cemetery will have more recent information, but 40 years later, his
sons may have also died and the process may have to be repeated in some form.

If Laibush is not in an on-line listing and Iwaniski lives in the New York City
area, he can obtain the date of death and the death certificate number >from the
N.Y.C. death indices in room 103 of the main branch of New York Public Library (if
not, maybe somebody can check for him?), and then obtain the death certificate from
the N.Y.C. Department of Health. It will have the cemetery name.

Ira

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Cohn/Kohn family Poland-New York and New Jersey #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

F. Iwaniski is looking for the Kohn/Cohn family >from New Jersey, and mentioned that
Laibush Cohn died around 1968 to 1970 in Queens, New York. Bernard, Murry and Eli
were the names of his sons.

Obviously, the surnames Kohn and Cohn are too common to easily track except when
paried with very unusual first names, which may not be the case here.

The easiest thing to do first is check the on-line databases for Mount Ararat,
Mount Zion, Mount Hebron, Mount Carmel, Mount Lebanon, Mount Judah, Montefiore, and
New Montefiore Cemeteries, and also JOWBR. If he finds Laibush, the cemetery
should be able to provide some information about the next of kin, including where
they lived, which should help narrow things down even though it's old information.
(I concede that it also may depend on the mood of the person who answers the phone
in the cemetery office.) With a little luck, like annual care payments to maintain
the grave, the cemetery will have more recent information, but 40 years later, his
sons may have also died and the process may have to be repeated in some form.

If Laibush is not in an on-line listing and Iwaniski lives in the New York City
area, he can obtain the date of death and the death certificate number >from the
N.Y.C. death indices in room 103 of the main branch of New York Public Library (if
not, maybe somebody can check for him?), and then obtain the death certificate from
the N.Y.C. Department of Health. It will have the cemetery name.

Ira

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.
Rebecca POPKIN's death date #general

Liz Hanellin
 

Thanks to everyone who responded to my request for information on finding my great
grandmother's death date. Thanks to you, I now have both the date and death
certificate number (she is listed as Beckie POPKIN), which I'm hoping will reveal
additional interesting tidbits. There's always another mystery waiting to be
discovered!

This is truly an amazing online community. Thanks again.

Liz Hanellin
NYC
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rebecca POPKIN's death date #general

Liz Hanellin
 

Thanks to everyone who responded to my request for information on finding my great
grandmother's death date. Thanks to you, I now have both the date and death
certificate number (she is listed as Beckie POPKIN), which I'm hoping will reveal
additional interesting tidbits. There's always another mystery waiting to be
discovered!

This is truly an amazing online community. Thanks again.

Liz Hanellin
NYC
MENDELBAUM family Radom (Przysucha/Szydlowiec) #general

Vincent Mendelbaum <vmendelbaum@...>
 

Hello everybody,

I 'm looking for informations about my MENDELBAUM family ancestry. The older
MENDELBAUM in my family I found is Kysel MENDELBAUM (father of Avram Reuwen
MENDELBAUM). All descendants of Avram Reuwen (born in 1830/1835 and decesed in
Szydlowiec in 1895) were born in Szydlowiec or Pzysucha.

But I don't find any informations in Radom about him and his father. Besides, I
found his pass-ticket to Radom Gubernia, so he probably comes outside.

The only Kysel (Chassejl) MENDELBAUM act I found in JRI is a death act in Krasnik
in 1837. Could it be him ?

Do you have any informations about this family?

Thanks

Vincent Mendelbaum
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen MENDELBAUM family Radom (Przysucha/Szydlowiec) #general

Vincent Mendelbaum <vmendelbaum@...>
 

Hello everybody,

I 'm looking for informations about my MENDELBAUM family ancestry. The older
MENDELBAUM in my family I found is Kysel MENDELBAUM (father of Avram Reuwen
MENDELBAUM). All descendants of Avram Reuwen (born in 1830/1835 and decesed in
Szydlowiec in 1895) were born in Szydlowiec or Pzysucha.

But I don't find any informations in Radom about him and his father. Besides, I
found his pass-ticket to Radom Gubernia, so he probably comes outside.

The only Kysel (Chassejl) MENDELBAUM act I found in JRI is a death act in Krasnik
in 1837. Could it be him ?

Do you have any informations about this family?

Thanks

Vincent Mendelbaum
MENDELBAUM family Radom (Przysucha/Szydlowiec) #germany

Vincent Mendelbaum <vmendelbaum@...>
 

Hello everybody,

I 'm looking for informations about my MENDELBAUM family ancestry.

The older MENDELBAUM in my family I found is Kysel MENDELBAUM
(father of Avram Reuwen MENDELBAUM).

All descendants of Avram Reuwen (born in 1830/1835 and decesed
in Szydlowiec in 1895) were born in Szydlowiec or Pzysucha.

But I don't find any informations in Radom about him and his
father. Besides, I found his pass-ticket to Radom Gubernia,
so he probably comes outside.

The only Kysel (Chassejl) MENDELBAUM act I found in JRI is a
death act in Krasnik in 1837. Could it be him ?
Do you have any informations about this family?

Vincent Mendelbaum, Reunion Island, French Indian Ocean, vmendelbaum@...
Solomas KURAS - Vidiskiai Lithuania to Argentina. #latinamerica

nigel wilson <wilsonettess@...>
 

Dear friends,

Further to a recent posting I now have more information on SHALOM KUR - in fact he changed his name to Solomas KURAS - and arrived in Argentina aged 19 yrs - single - >from Vidiskiai Lithuania on 06/06/1927.

I have written to CEMLA to ask for further information but have not as yet had a response.

Can anyone advise me how to go about searching for Solomas, did he marry, have children? - where did he live?

Solomas' parents were Shimon and Yocheved Ester, he had 2 brothers who went to South Africa - Gershon and Boruch (have full family trees) and a sister Khaye who perished in the Shoah.


There is a Solomon Kuras buried in Buenos Aires but investigation has proved this is not my Solomas.

Any leads so gratefully appreciated.

Please contact me privately.

Thank you.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)
German SIG #Germany MENDELBAUM family Radom (Przysucha/Szydlowiec) #germany

Vincent Mendelbaum <vmendelbaum@...>
 

Hello everybody,

I 'm looking for informations about my MENDELBAUM family ancestry.

The older MENDELBAUM in my family I found is Kysel MENDELBAUM
(father of Avram Reuwen MENDELBAUM).

All descendants of Avram Reuwen (born in 1830/1835 and decesed
in Szydlowiec in 1895) were born in Szydlowiec or Pzysucha.

But I don't find any informations in Radom about him and his
father. Besides, I found his pass-ticket to Radom Gubernia,
so he probably comes outside.

The only Kysel (Chassejl) MENDELBAUM act I found in JRI is a
death act in Krasnik in 1837. Could it be him ?
Do you have any informations about this family?

Vincent Mendelbaum, Reunion Island, French Indian Ocean, vmendelbaum@...
Latin America #LatinAmerica Solomas KURAS - Vidiskiai Lithuania to Argentina. #latinamerica

nigel wilson <wilsonettess@...>
 

Dear friends,

Further to a recent posting I now have more information on SHALOM KUR - in fact he changed his name to Solomas KURAS - and arrived in Argentina aged 19 yrs - single - >from Vidiskiai Lithuania on 06/06/1927.

I have written to CEMLA to ask for further information but have not as yet had a response.

Can anyone advise me how to go about searching for Solomas, did he marry, have children? - where did he live?

Solomas' parents were Shimon and Yocheved Ester, he had 2 brothers who went to South Africa - Gershon and Boruch (have full family trees) and a sister Khaye who perished in the Shoah.


There is a Solomon Kuras buried in Buenos Aires but investigation has proved this is not my Solomas.

Any leads so gratefully appreciated.

Please contact me privately.

Thank you.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)
111841 - 111860 of 669819