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ViewMate Translation Requests, Russian (GORECKI, WAINTROP, Markuszow) #poland

Genealogy BLW
 

I've posted several vital record in Russian for which I need
translations. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38617
I believe it is the death record for a daughter of Manas GORECKI and
Aydla WAINTROP.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3DVM38618
This should be the death record for Aydla WAINTROP, wife of Mana =
GORECKI.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38619
I believe this is the brith record of Leijbus GORECKI, grandson of Manas
GORECKI.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.
Barbara Weintraub
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

Researching SZNAJDER, KAC, FINKIESZTAJN, WAKSMAN, GORECKI, LINDZON,
CELNICK, ERDSZNEKE, KREL in Ostrowiec, Opole Lubelskie, Markuszow and
other nearby towns in Congress Poland, and after emigration in USA,
Canada, Paraguay, Cuba, Brazil
Also, WEINTRAUB, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY, HAMMER/KAMER, FINK, SPINDEL >from
Ivano-Frankivska, Ukraine (formerly Stanislawow, Galicia).
Also, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY/BRODIE in New York and wherever they went >from
there.

JRI Poland #Poland ViewMate Translation Requests, Russian (GORECKI, WAINTROP, Markuszow) #poland

Genealogy BLW
 

I've posted several vital record in Russian for which I need
translations. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38617
I believe it is the death record for a daughter of Manas GORECKI and
Aydla WAINTROP.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3DVM38618
This should be the death record for Aydla WAINTROP, wife of Mana =
GORECKI.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38619
I believe this is the brith record of Leijbus GORECKI, grandson of Manas
GORECKI.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.
Barbara Weintraub
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

Researching SZNAJDER, KAC, FINKIESZTAJN, WAKSMAN, GORECKI, LINDZON,
CELNICK, ERDSZNEKE, KREL in Ostrowiec, Opole Lubelskie, Markuszow and
other nearby towns in Congress Poland, and after emigration in USA,
Canada, Paraguay, Cuba, Brazil
Also, WEINTRAUB, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY, HAMMER/KAMER, FINK, SPINDEL >from
Ivano-Frankivska, Ukraine (formerly Stanislawow, Galicia).
Also, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY/BRODIE in New York and wherever they went >from
there.

ViewMate Translation Request, Polish (GORECKI, Markuszow) #poland

Genealogy BLW
 

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It
is on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38616

I believe this is the birth record of a daughter by Manas GORECKI.
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.
Barbara Weintraub

Researching SZNAJDER, KAC, FINKIESZTAJN, WAKSMAN, GORECKI, LINDZON,
CELNICK, ERDSZNEKE, KREL in Ostrowiec, Opole Lubelskie, Markuszow and
other nearby towns in Congress Poland, and after emigration in USA,
Canada, Paraguay, Cuba, Brazil
Also, WEINTRAUB, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY, HAMMER/KAMER, FINK, SPINDEL >from
Ivano-Frankivska, Ukraine (formerly Stanislawow, Galicia).
Also, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY/BRODIE in New York and wherever they went >from
there.

JRI Poland #Poland ViewMate Translation Request, Polish (GORECKI, Markuszow) #poland

Genealogy BLW
 

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It
is on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38616

I believe this is the birth record of a daughter by Manas GORECKI.
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.
Barbara Weintraub

Researching SZNAJDER, KAC, FINKIESZTAJN, WAKSMAN, GORECKI, LINDZON,
CELNICK, ERDSZNEKE, KREL in Ostrowiec, Opole Lubelskie, Markuszow and
other nearby towns in Congress Poland, and after emigration in USA,
Canada, Paraguay, Cuba, Brazil
Also, WEINTRAUB, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY, HAMMER/KAMER, FINK, SPINDEL >from
Ivano-Frankivska, Ukraine (formerly Stanislawow, Galicia).
Also, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY/BRODIE in New York and wherever they went >from
there.

ViewMate Translation Request, Polish (GORECKI, Markuszow) #poland

Genealogy BLW
 

from the BROD and FINKIELSZTAJN branches and back to GORECKI.
I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a
translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38615

I believe this is the birth record of a son of Manas GORECKI.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.
Barbara Weintraub
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

Researching SZNAJDER, KAC, FINKIESZTAJN, WAKSMAN, GORECKI, LINDZON,
CELNICK, ERDSZNEKE, KREL in Ostrowiec, Opole Lubelskie, Markuszow and
other nearby towns in Congress Poland, and after emigration in USA,
Canada, Paraguay, Cuba, Brazil
Also, WEINTRAUB, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY, HAMMER/KAMER, FINK, SPINDEL >from
Ivano-Frankivska, Ukraine (formerly Stanislawow, Galicia).
Also, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY/BRODIE in New York and wherever they went >from
there.

JRI Poland #Poland ViewMate Translation Request, Polish (GORECKI, Markuszow) #poland

Genealogy BLW
 

from the BROD and FINKIELSZTAJN branches and back to GORECKI.
I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a
translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38615

I believe this is the birth record of a son of Manas GORECKI.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.
Barbara Weintraub
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

Researching SZNAJDER, KAC, FINKIESZTAJN, WAKSMAN, GORECKI, LINDZON,
CELNICK, ERDSZNEKE, KREL in Ostrowiec, Opole Lubelskie, Markuszow and
other nearby towns in Congress Poland, and after emigration in USA,
Canada, Paraguay, Cuba, Brazil
Also, WEINTRAUB, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY, HAMMER/KAMER, FINK, SPINDEL >from
Ivano-Frankivska, Ukraine (formerly Stanislawow, Galicia).
Also, BROD/BRAUDE/BRODY/BRODIE in New York and wherever they went >from
there.

ViewMate Translation Request - Russian #poland

Scott Meyer
 

I've posted a Russian-language death record >from Poland. Though a full
translation would be most helpful, it would be a great start if I
could receive the full names, ages and relationships of those
mentioned in the document. It is on ViewMate at the following address:
...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38570
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thanks,

Scott E. Meyer

JRI Poland #Poland Fwd: ViewMate Translation Request - Russian #poland

Scott Meyer
 

I've posted a Russian-language death record >from Poland. Though a full
translation would be most helpful, it would be a great start if I
could receive the full names, ages and relationships of those
mentioned in the document. It is on ViewMate at the following address:
...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM38570
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thanks,

Scott E. Meyer

(US-RI) Second Bill Introduced Allowing Free Examination of Death Records--More Restrictive #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

On February 7, I posted to this discussion list about a bill introduced in
Rhode Island that if enacted will change the current Vital Records Law
(Section 23-3-23): HB 5309 which would permit the public to examine and copy
death and marriage certificates filed with the Department of Health. Social
Security numbers will be redacted prior to inspection, and would prohibit
the department of health and municipalities >from charging for examination of
these records, but usual per page charges apply for making copies. . It
contains a 100 year embargo for birth records, however, the records will be
open for research by any member of an incorporated genealogy society. It
limits to the specific family members, and others including members of
genealogical societies the ability to examine the original or copy of a
birth certificate or record. This bill was introduced and referred to the
House Judiciary Committee but no further action has yet occurred. To read
the bill see:
http://webserver.rilin.state.ri.us/BillText/BillText15/HouseText15/H5309.pdf

Another bill has been introduced in Rhode Island, HB5863 and referred to the
House Judiciary, which may be read at:
http://webserver.rilin.state.ri.us/BillText/BillText15/HouseText15/H5863.pdf

This bill also amends the current Vital Records Law (Section 23-3-23) by
permitting the following access to death certificates with no fees for
examining death certificates filed with the department of health: title
examiners, attorneys, or members of legally incorporated genealogical
societies in the conduct of their official duties. Fees may be charged for
copying the records but not for searching the records. If enacted this bill
would become effective on passage.

At this time it is unknown if the two bills will merge together, or if HB
5863 replaces HB 5309 as the authors of HB 5309 are also the authors -plus
others-of HB 5863. While HB 5309 also included marriage certificates, and
permitted the public to also view the records, HB 5863 is more restrictive
as it limits access to the records as mentioned above: title examiners,
attorneys and members of legally incorporated genealogical societies and
only covers death certificates and does not mention marriage certificates.
No date for a hearing was published at the time of this posting.

Thank you to Dick Eastman and the Eastman Online Genealogy Newsletter for
alerting us to this new bill.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (US-RI) Second Bill Introduced Allowing Free Examination of Death Records--More Restrictive #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

On February 7, I posted to this discussion list about a bill introduced in
Rhode Island that if enacted will change the current Vital Records Law
(Section 23-3-23): HB 5309 which would permit the public to examine and copy
death and marriage certificates filed with the Department of Health. Social
Security numbers will be redacted prior to inspection, and would prohibit
the department of health and municipalities >from charging for examination of
these records, but usual per page charges apply for making copies. . It
contains a 100 year embargo for birth records, however, the records will be
open for research by any member of an incorporated genealogy society. It
limits to the specific family members, and others including members of
genealogical societies the ability to examine the original or copy of a
birth certificate or record. This bill was introduced and referred to the
House Judiciary Committee but no further action has yet occurred. To read
the bill see:
http://webserver.rilin.state.ri.us/BillText/BillText15/HouseText15/H5309.pdf

Another bill has been introduced in Rhode Island, HB5863 and referred to the
House Judiciary, which may be read at:
http://webserver.rilin.state.ri.us/BillText/BillText15/HouseText15/H5863.pdf

This bill also amends the current Vital Records Law (Section 23-3-23) by
permitting the following access to death certificates with no fees for
examining death certificates filed with the department of health: title
examiners, attorneys, or members of legally incorporated genealogical
societies in the conduct of their official duties. Fees may be charged for
copying the records but not for searching the records. If enacted this bill
would become effective on passage.

At this time it is unknown if the two bills will merge together, or if HB
5863 replaces HB 5309 as the authors of HB 5309 are also the authors -plus
others-of HB 5863. While HB 5309 also included marriage certificates, and
permitted the public to also view the records, HB 5863 is more restrictive
as it limits access to the records as mentioned above: title examiners,
attorneys and members of legally incorporated genealogical societies and
only covers death certificates and does not mention marriage certificates.
No date for a hearing was published at the time of this posting.

Thank you to Dick Eastman and the Eastman Online Genealogy Newsletter for
alerting us to this new bill.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

Younger ages on arrival manifests? #general

David W. Perle
 

Hi, all. Aside >from honest miscommunication (such as with different
accents and such), are there any explanations for why my 23-year-old
great-grandmother Minnie KROLL would have been listed as being 18 on her
ship manifest when arriving in New York City in September 1903? She was
arriving >from Kalisz, Poland/Russia with her mother Laja. Just five months
later, her Manhattan marriage certificate shows that she was 22. (Almost
accurate, as her Polish birth record indicates that she was 23.)

As reflected on the manifest, they were joining Minnie's older
brother/Laja's son Jacob, who was already settled in NYC, as well as
Minnie's bridegroom William PERLE.

A funny tidbit is that Minnie actually did lie about her age during the
rest of her life. My great-aunt was convinced that her mother Minnie had
been 16 or 17 when Minnie and William married, though she was actually
22/23.

David Perle
Washington, DC
Researching ARONOWSKY, BLUM, PERLE, SMOLEY/SMOLA, GOTTLIEB, KROLL,
PRZEGRODA, etc...

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Younger ages on arrival manifests? #general

David W. Perle
 

Hi, all. Aside >from honest miscommunication (such as with different
accents and such), are there any explanations for why my 23-year-old
great-grandmother Minnie KROLL would have been listed as being 18 on her
ship manifest when arriving in New York City in September 1903? She was
arriving >from Kalisz, Poland/Russia with her mother Laja. Just five months
later, her Manhattan marriage certificate shows that she was 22. (Almost
accurate, as her Polish birth record indicates that she was 23.)

As reflected on the manifest, they were joining Minnie's older
brother/Laja's son Jacob, who was already settled in NYC, as well as
Minnie's bridegroom William PERLE.

A funny tidbit is that Minnie actually did lie about her age during the
rest of her life. My great-aunt was convinced that her mother Minnie had
been 16 or 17 when Minnie and William married, though she was actually
22/23.

David Perle
Washington, DC
Researching ARONOWSKY, BLUM, PERLE, SMOLEY/SMOLA, GOTTLIEB, KROLL,
PRZEGRODA, etc...

Re: Traveling alone in Poland at 15 year old / Zakopane ski resort #general

tom
 

Probably. Our ancestors weren't as well "informed" about the dangers
of the wide world, and therefore seem to have enjoyed a degree of
immunity.

In my own immediate family, I flew >from alone >from London to Geneva
at the age of (almost) 17, with no one at the other end to meet me,
and no other arrangements. (Granted, that was much later in the 20th
century.) My late father-in-law travelled to the Congo, in Africa,
at an even younger age (family lore says it was just after his bar
mitzvah). And one of my late father's childhood stories was that he
and his cousin, both about 8 or 9 years old, took a horse-drawn wagon
of watermelons to the fair, alone, sold them, and then drove the
horse and wagon home at the end of the day. (Horses being an early
prototype of the self-driving car.)

Somehow, children in those days were given greater freedom and
responsibility, and parents managed to survive without cell phones or
constant contact. It might make an interesting statistical study to
look up records of, say, 15-year-olds arriving at Ellis Island, where
we have lots of data to work with, and try to figure out how many of
them arrived unaccompanied by their immediate family.

....... tom klein, toronto

"Marc" <marcrys@...> wrote:
[snip!]

Would such a teenager travel alone on "holiday" to a ski resort 500km away
from Warszaw in the early 20th c. ?
[snip!]

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Traveling alone in Poland at 15 year old / Zakopane ski resort #general

tom
 

Probably. Our ancestors weren't as well "informed" about the dangers
of the wide world, and therefore seem to have enjoyed a degree of
immunity.

In my own immediate family, I flew >from alone >from London to Geneva
at the age of (almost) 17, with no one at the other end to meet me,
and no other arrangements. (Granted, that was much later in the 20th
century.) My late father-in-law travelled to the Congo, in Africa,
at an even younger age (family lore says it was just after his bar
mitzvah). And one of my late father's childhood stories was that he
and his cousin, both about 8 or 9 years old, took a horse-drawn wagon
of watermelons to the fair, alone, sold them, and then drove the
horse and wagon home at the end of the day. (Horses being an early
prototype of the self-driving car.)

Somehow, children in those days were given greater freedom and
responsibility, and parents managed to survive without cell phones or
constant contact. It might make an interesting statistical study to
look up records of, say, 15-year-olds arriving at Ellis Island, where
we have lots of data to work with, and try to figure out how many of
them arrived unaccompanied by their immediate family.

....... tom klein, toronto

"Marc" <marcrys@...> wrote:
[snip!]

Would such a teenager travel alone on "holiday" to a ski resort 500km away
from Warszaw in the early 20th c. ?
[snip!]

(Europe-Danube) Tracing Jewish Heritage Along the Danube #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The New York Times has an article by Lisa Schwarzbaum, who took a Danube
River Cruise >from Budapest to Nuremberg-tracing Jewish heritage-this article
would be especially interesting for those who have roots in central eastern
Europe.. In full disclosure I took a similar cruise on another line- Viking
Cruises--- last June

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/15/travel/tracing-jewish-heritage-along-the-danube.html?_r=0
[or http://tinyurl.com/lztkza2 --Mod.]

I have no affiliation with AmaWaterways, the river cruise line, and am
posting this solely for the information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (Europe-Danube) Tracing Jewish Heritage Along the Danube #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The New York Times has an article by Lisa Schwarzbaum, who took a Danube
River Cruise >from Budapest to Nuremberg-tracing Jewish heritage-this article
would be especially interesting for those who have roots in central eastern
Europe.. In full disclosure I took a similar cruise on another line- Viking
Cruises--- last June

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/15/travel/tracing-jewish-heritage-along-the-danube.html?_r=0
[or http://tinyurl.com/lztkza2 --Mod.]

I have no affiliation with AmaWaterways, the river cruise line, and am
posting this solely for the information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

Name question ~ 19th century Szrensk, Russia (Poland) #general

bernerfolk
 

I'm looking at the JRI index for Szrensk, Poland for the FRAJDENBERG
family. There is a birth record for Wolew in 1858. There are two
entries for one death record, one reads: Zulek FREYDENBERG and the
other Wulek FRAJDENBERG. I have two questions regarding these records:

~ I know they are for the same family, can I assume Wolew = Wulek = Zulek?

~ I've not come across this name before and I don't see it in the names
database. Is it related to other names, maybe Wolf?

Also >from a Szrensk document, the mother of the groom on an 1881 marriage
record has been translated (transliterated?) as "Khudessa born Kitaeva" or
"Hudessa >from Kitajews" being the "latin". I suspect this is a patronymic
or a surname but it's not a familiar name to me. I don't at present have
a good scan of the document to post on viewmate, is it possible to make
sense of the transliteration I have >from what I've posted here?

Sherri Venditti
The Berkshires, USA.

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Name question ~ 19th century Szrensk, Russia (Poland) #general

bernerfolk
 

I'm looking at the JRI index for Szrensk, Poland for the FRAJDENBERG
family. There is a birth record for Wolew in 1858. There are two
entries for one death record, one reads: Zulek FREYDENBERG and the
other Wulek FRAJDENBERG. I have two questions regarding these records:

~ I know they are for the same family, can I assume Wolew = Wulek = Zulek?

~ I've not come across this name before and I don't see it in the names
database. Is it related to other names, maybe Wolf?

Also >from a Szrensk document, the mother of the groom on an 1881 marriage
record has been translated (transliterated?) as "Khudessa born Kitaeva" or
"Hudessa >from Kitajews" being the "latin". I suspect this is a patronymic
or a surname but it's not a familiar name to me. I don't at present have
a good scan of the document to post on viewmate, is it possible to make
sense of the transliteration I have >from what I've posted here?

Sherri Venditti
The Berkshires, USA.

(Jamaica) IAJGS Member JGS Jamaica President Featured in AP Story on Jamaica and Jewish Tourism Hope for Fading Community #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

IAJGS member Jamaica Jewish Genealogy Society President Ainsley Henriques is
featured in an Associated Press article on the hopes that Jewish tourism can
help the fading community. There are photos of Sha'are Shalom- but not
enough people for a minion on Shabbat. In the 1800's there were 2,500 Jews
and 8 synagogues on the Island country-today 200 congregants-most over 50
years old-- and one synagogue remain. This Kingston synagogue evolved out of
Sephardic conservative traditions but adopted liberal practices >from both
British and American Reform movements. The hope is for the community to
remain. Jewish tourism appears to be the financial underpinning of this
fragile community. Ainsley preserves the community's memories through is
Jamaica Jewish Genealogical Institute. Some of the history of Jamaica is
told in the book "Pirates of the Caribbean" where some Sephardic Jews became
pirates who plundered galleons.

When the British ruled Jamaica, Jews were the core of the merchant class and
colonial Jamaica gave Jews voting rights in 1831-years before they obtained
the same rights in Britain-and by 1847 8 Jews were serving in the House of
Assembly.

The article also mentions Jewish tourism is important in the US Virgin
Islands and Curacao.

To read the article and see more photos go to: http://tinyurl.com/n6l3dnt
Original url:
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/0544393d0baa425a91ab0f810d0642ae/jamaica-hopes-jewish-tourism-can-help-fading-community

Thank you to Jewish Genner Randy Herschaft of the Associated Press for
sharing the story with us.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (Jamaica) IAJGS Member JGS Jamaica President Featured in AP Story on Jamaica and Jewish Tourism Hope for Fading Community #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

IAJGS member Jamaica Jewish Genealogy Society President Ainsley Henriques is
featured in an Associated Press article on the hopes that Jewish tourism can
help the fading community. There are photos of Sha'are Shalom- but not
enough people for a minion on Shabbat. In the 1800's there were 2,500 Jews
and 8 synagogues on the Island country-today 200 congregants-most over 50
years old-- and one synagogue remain. This Kingston synagogue evolved out of
Sephardic conservative traditions but adopted liberal practices >from both
British and American Reform movements. The hope is for the community to
remain. Jewish tourism appears to be the financial underpinning of this
fragile community. Ainsley preserves the community's memories through is
Jamaica Jewish Genealogical Institute. Some of the history of Jamaica is
told in the book "Pirates of the Caribbean" where some Sephardic Jews became
pirates who plundered galleons.

When the British ruled Jamaica, Jews were the core of the merchant class and
colonial Jamaica gave Jews voting rights in 1831-years before they obtained
the same rights in Britain-and by 1847 8 Jews were serving in the House of
Assembly.

The article also mentions Jewish tourism is important in the US Virgin
Islands and Curacao.

To read the article and see more photos go to: http://tinyurl.com/n6l3dnt
Original url:
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/0544393d0baa425a91ab0f810d0642ae/jamaica-hopes-jewish-tourism-can-help-fading-community

Thank you to Jewish Genner Randy Herschaft of the Associated Press for
sharing the story with us.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee